Comments on: Buzz: Santana Deal within 10 Days http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:48:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: MudvilleNine http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85582 MudvilleNine Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:17:49 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85582 Personally, I dont see Yankee fans turning around and going to Mets games just because they have Santana. Thats a rediculous comment. A very casual fan would be the only one who goes by who's better and how many of those are out there? A hundred or two? That is not a big enough number to cause ny headaches for either team. Hot dogs? Jerseys? I think you over estimate their significance. The only increase in jerseys would be for the name Santana on back. People are going to buy jerseys and hats and t-shirts no matter who is on the teams. The Yankees will still out sell the Mets whichever team Santana goes on. The numbers will not be that significant for the Yankees. I doubt their revenues will drop at all. The Mets of course would show an increase, but nothing that would scare the Yankees. Personally, I dont see Yankee fans turning around and going to Mets games just because they have Santana. Thats a rediculous comment. A very casual fan would be the only one who goes by who’s better and how many of those are out there? A hundred or two? That is not a big enough number to cause ny headaches for either team. Hot dogs? Jerseys? I think you over estimate their significance. The only increase in jerseys would be for the name Santana on back. People are going to buy jerseys and hats and t-shirts no matter who is on the teams. The Yankees will still out sell the Mets whichever team Santana goes on. The numbers will not be that significant for the Yankees. I doubt their revenues will drop at all. The Mets of course would show an increase, but nothing that would scare the Yankees.

]]> By: rockets212 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85281 rockets212 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:35:34 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85281 that would work but santana would veto any trade like that, smith would have to do back to the yanks/sox/mets and beg them to take santana off their hands for less than their current offer that would work but santana would veto any trade like that, smith would have to do back to the yanks/sox/mets and beg them to take santana off their hands for less than their current offer

]]> By: rockets212 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85280 rockets212 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:24:16 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85280 its going to be a long next 6 or 7 seasons watching him pitch for some other team if this deal dont happen its going to be a long next 6 or 7 seasons watching him pitch for some other team if this deal dont happen

]]> By: rockets212 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85279 rockets212 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:18:33 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85279 no way hes sittin on 4 prospects, the orogional deal or heilman/church and 2 prospects, probably on of them being FMart. no way hes sittin on 4 prospects, the orogional deal or heilman/church and 2 prospects, probably on of them being FMart.

]]> By: The Captain http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85273 The Captain Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:11:49 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85273 you amuse me like a clown, now go get your shine box! you amuse me like a clown, now go get your shine box!

]]> By: metsomniac http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85272 metsomniac Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:44:04 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85272 I'm getting goosebumps..... no way i can sleep for the next couple of days after a miserable 2007 in New York sports 2008 can start off with Santana for the Mets and a Super bowl for the Giants. I’m getting goosebumps….. no way i can sleep for the next couple of days after a miserable 2007 in New York sports 2008 can start off with Santana for the Mets and a Super bowl for the Giants.

]]> By: sploorp http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85271 sploorp Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:11:56 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85271 I'm not sure that it's necessarily the Twins being greedy. I think that they've been actively trying to reach a deal with Santana themselves. I've seen numerous hints at this throughout this whole ordeal. Most recently, when the deals for Morneau and Cuddyer were announced, Smith was of course asked about Santana. He mentioned that they have had extensive talks with Santana's agent, but also mentioned that he is still listening to offers from the Yanks, Mets and Sox. I've been saying all along that the Twins aren't as desperate as a lot of people think they are. They certainly aren't behaving like a desperate team. Most people seem to believe that trading Santana for anything they can get has been their only option. Smith has said extending Santana would be their first choice on a number of occasions. At first, I wrote this off as just a lot of talk to appease the fans, but now I'm not so sure. If they really have been trying to keep Santana in Minnesota and really believe they can pull it off, then a lot of what has been going on starts to make quite a bit more sense. Show just enough interest in various trades to keep that door open while you hammer out details behind the scenes and on the QT with Santana's agent. If a team comes forward with an offer they can't refuse, they can take it. Just keep as many options open as possible. A lot of people have pointed to this Morneau/Cuddyer deal as the Twins trying to save some face when they finally let Santana go. That may be true, but I'm not so sure. Why? The Twins just spent 104 million dollars on these two guys. The Twins have never spent a lot of money on anybody in the past, why now? There were a lot of precedents set with this deal. Also, Pohlad's son (and Twins CEO) acknowledged the way things were done in the past, but that they want to show people that they're willing to spend money to keep a core group of homegrown talent together. Wouldn't Santana also fit that homegrown core description? I think something is going to happen very soon, but it might not be a trade like everybody is expecting. I think the Twins want this wrapped up as much as anybody. I'm also sure the last thing they want is the distractions a news feeding frenzy would create if there is still is no deal by ST. I'm also thinking that if they are trying to lock up Santana, they do exactly that if they still think a deal is possible. Just some thoughts. I’m not sure that it’s necessarily the Twins being greedy. I think that they’ve been actively trying to reach a deal with Santana themselves. I’ve seen numerous hints at this throughout this whole ordeal. Most recently, when the deals for Morneau and Cuddyer were announced, Smith was of course asked about Santana. He mentioned that they have had extensive talks with Santana’s agent, but also mentioned that he is still listening to offers from the Yanks, Mets and Sox.

I’ve been saying all along that the Twins aren’t as desperate as a lot of people think they are. They certainly aren’t behaving like a desperate team. Most people seem to believe that trading Santana for anything they can get has been their only option. Smith has said extending Santana would be their first choice on a number of occasions. At first, I wrote this off as just a lot of talk to appease the fans, but now I’m not so sure.

If they really have been trying to keep Santana in Minnesota and really believe they can pull it off, then a lot of what has been going on starts to make quite a bit more sense. Show just enough interest in various trades to keep that door open while you hammer out details behind the scenes and on the QT with Santana’s agent. If a team comes forward with an offer they can’t refuse, they can take it. Just keep as many options open as possible.

A lot of people have pointed to this Morneau/Cuddyer deal as the Twins trying to save some face when they finally let Santana go. That may be true, but I’m not so sure. Why? The Twins just spent 104 million dollars on these two guys. The Twins have never spent a lot of money on anybody in the past, why now? There were a lot of precedents set with this deal. Also, Pohlad’s son (and Twins CEO) acknowledged the way things were done in the past, but that they want to show people that they’re willing to spend money to keep a core group of homegrown talent together. Wouldn’t Santana also fit that homegrown core description?

I think something is going to happen very soon, but it might not be a trade like everybody is expecting. I think the Twins want this wrapped up as much as anybody. I’m also sure the last thing they want is the distractions a news feeding frenzy would create if there is still is no deal by ST. I’m also thinking that if they are trying to lock up Santana, they do exactly that if they still think a deal is possible.

Just some thoughts.

]]> By: RichardK http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85268 RichardK Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:38:50 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85268 Thats it, I'm hiring Gwen Stefani to go over to Bill Smith's house and sing this song -> www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bbYBMJT_fQ Thats it, I’m hiring Gwen Stefani to go over to Bill Smith’s house and sing this song -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bbYBMJT_fQ

]]> By: BSMITTYFDNY http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85260 BSMITTYFDNY Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:23:03 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85260 I dont sell them short. I just dont think they are so good that we shouldnt deal them for Johan. They arent that good. I dont sell them short. I just dont think they are so good that we shouldnt deal them for Johan. They arent that good.

]]> By: Krusty The Klown http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85256 Krusty The Klown Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:09:46 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/27/buzz-santana-deal-within-10-days/#comment-85256 great..... captain obvious! great….. captain obvious!

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