by the way, this statement is nonsense. scouts evaluate players, ESPECIALLLY PITCHERS, for durability ALL THE TIME.

omar is a scout. his roots are in scouting, phillips understood scoutig but was not a scout. im not blindly crediting the GMs. omar and phillips are 2 vastly diff men.

im bored of u. im not getting anything interesting from u. ur getting all the benefit out of this discussion.

thanks, im done.

here are just some of the assumptions you rest your faulty argument upon and my responses:

1) according to you omar gets credit for fmart, guerra, and mulvey because he’s the gm. but, phillips doesn’t get credit for reyes because omar was doing the real work under phillips. you say it was omar that scouted them and phillips had nothing to do with it because gms have people working for them. okay, well, omar has people working for him, too. so, is it omar that should get the credit or his scouting system finding and signing fmart, guerra, and mulvey? according to you, the answer must be is no because the gm has delagated that responsibility.

2) according to you humber sucks. however, in reality, he does not. he got hurt. it happens in scouting. he was highly touted and could have been very special if not for the injury. you can’t predict injuries.

3) you somehow think i prefer the pre-omar regimes. why? because i pointed out that your premise for your faulty arguments was erroneous because you failed to mentioned that reyes, wright, and gomez (for starters) were not signed/drafted under omar’s watch? that was a huge leap. i was criticizing you, not omar.

4) you fail to address the central thesis of my previous argument; that the mets are only in this because three teams can afford to pay santana after the trade, and they are one of them. if the trade were to be predicated solely on talent and not the ability to pay santana, the mets would not have a competitive offer. in fact, if the yankees put one player on the table, just one (hughes), it would all end and the mets would be having a press conference to introduce kyle lohse and livan hernandez. this point was made to hammer home the fact that it is not the strength of the farm system that puts the mets in contention for santana, it’s the enormous financial resourse of the organization that makes the mets contenders. and, even still, the twins hesitate to make the deal because the talent on the table isn’t viewed as sufficient.

5) your posts lack fairness. why didn’t you talk about how gomez (who is also considered central to the deal for santana) was not a product of the omar regime? the answer to this question is simple. your posting lacks integrity. it would hurt your argument to talk about it, so you don’t. where i gave you credit by mentioning the kids omar drafted, you choose to ignore my point that omar didn’t draft gomez and call me names. that’s posting with a lack of integrity, plain and simple.

and with that being my final point, i will now try to ignore all your future posts because frankly i don’t have any faith in your ability to be fair in these arguments and you clearly cannot abstain from name-calling (which is generally what someone without something of substance to say resorts to doing).

ur reply is so ridiculous, im not even gona bother.