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Read: Santana + Mets = NL East Favorite
By Brandon Eddy - Jan 29, 2008 11:14 pm

In his blog for ESPN.com, Keith Law writes that the Mets immediately become the favorites to win their division and have a good argument to be the best team in the National League following their trade for LHP Johan Santana.

By getting one of the game’s best pitchers, Law describes two important things that Santana does for the Mets…

“One, he’ll give the Mets 50-75 more innings than they would have gotten from the starter he replaces in the rotation; he takes pressure off their bullpen and allows Willie Randolph to give his best relievers more rest, which he wasn’t able to do last August and September. Two, he pushes everyone in the rotation back into a more suitable spot. Pelfrey now has to “win” a starting role in spring training, which, given the work he still needs to do, is not a bad situation. Oliver Perez and John Maine won’t line up quite as often against opposing No. 1 and 2 starters.”

…agree 100%…however, i could probably list 999 more things santana does for the Mets, but i am too delirious to think of them…the only thing i know right now is that the best pitcher in baseball will be wearing blue and orange in 2008…pending the contract extension and physical, of course…

77 Responses to “Read: Santana + Mets = NL East Favorite”

  1. Johan Santana says:

    You better BELIEVE it.

    -#57

    • drprpimp813 says:

      I’m still in total shock. I still cant believe the deal Omar got. I’ll probably come back to reality during school tomorrow and just burst out screaming,” We got Johan” to the Yankee fans.

  2. Ryn5 says:

    ^—

    Welcome.

  3. TugTheMan says:

    Pedro, Johan, Maine, Perez and then Duque.
    Righty, lefty, righty, lefty and righty would keep the other teams off balanced. Very Nice rotation, I must say!!!!

    • royhobbs7 says:

      This is the best acquisition that the Mets have made since they traded for Gary Carter back in 1985-6.

      Got to Love It. Way to go Omar. You didn’t give away the farm either. ………………………………….

      Signing him will disprove a lot of the finger-pointing towards Freddy Coupons.

      • gomets6091 says:

        I don’t want to be a wet blanket, but I’ve gotta say this is only the best acquisition the Mets have made since they traded for Mike Piazza in 1998. They got a hall-of-famer that took them to their only back-to-back playoff appearances and a World Series loss to the best team science could build

        That reminds me though, I’ve seen some people (especially on ESPN.com) try to say this trade isn’t as good as it seems, pointing to trades like the Pierczynski for Liriano-Nathan-Bonser trade as an example that this might not work out. But I’d like to remind everyone that the Mets got the best catcher, and a top-5 hitter in baseball in 1998 for 3 of their top-5 prospects. Those prospects: Preston Wilson, Ed Yarnall, and Geoff Goetz. In retrospect, would ANYONE not make that trade in a heartbeat again?

      • Ferd C says:

        Hmm. Since Gary Carter? How about Mike Piazza?
        I know we won a championship with Carter and he was a huge part of it, especially in the one and only 10th inning, but we could’ve won 4 straight championships in the late 80’s and didn’t.

        Anyway, although I really like Gomez and Guerra and think they will become stars, this could still wind up being the best trade the Mets have ever made.

  4. Gilch says:

    aside from his personal production, im glad people are talking about him helping to relieve the pen of 50-75 innings … HUGE

  5. ghobot says:

    does anyone find this ridiculous?

    8) If Santana is traded, which high-profile Mets pitcher will end up with the better career?

    53.8% Johan Santana
    46.2% Pedro Martinez

    is american KIDDING???

    • Ryn5 says:

      As long as you’re in agreement that no one will likely match the dominance of Pedro Martinez over the past 10-15 years, then yes, I agree.

    • gomets6091 says:

      yea, that’s absolutely INSANE. I don’t think people realize how good Pedro was. I like Santana, and I’m ridiculously glad he’s here, but he doesn’t even hold a candle to Pedro circa 1997-2003 (or Maddux 1992-1998, or Randy Johnson 1997-2002). Santana is the best pitcher in baseball right now, but Pedro, Johnson, and Maddux had some of the greatest stretches by any pitchers in ML history.

  6. dayrunner says:

    A couple of things… if Duaner Sanchez is able to come back it also leaves the bullpen in pretty good shape, moving Heilman back to the 7th and plenty of options for matchups and long relief.
    But guys with big contracts do tend to struggle their first year in New York, the expectations, the media, etc.
    Beltran, Giambi, Piazza, ARod, Mussina, Hampton all struggled some that first year. There will be a ton of expectations on this team. That said, if they stay healthy, it should be all good.
    But lets give Santana a bit of a break. Last few years he hasn’t gotten of to great starts, but then went on some sick runs.
    I’d sign up for 33 or 34 starts, 18 wins or so and a 3 era.

  7. im watching this on ssportscenter and im like in tears lol
    I cant wait for spring!!!!!

  8. ghobot says:

    8) If Santana is traded, which high-profile Mets pitcher will end up with the better career?

    53.8% Johan Santana
    46.2% Pedro Martinez

    can someone please explain this insanity to me?

  9. thejuggernaut says:

    THIS TRADE IS A STEAL

    • boozermetsfan says:

      Matt,

      Just saw you on SNY. Beginning to be my favorite segment on Hot Stove/Sportsnight. You are an innovator, and will one day be recognized as an icon in the New York Media among Mets fans. OK I’m giddy about Johan and a little bit buzzed. But hey, I’m boozermetsfan. Let’s Go Mets! Thank you for all your hard work. You’re the man!

      Boozer

      • Ferd C says:

        Spoken like a true boozer.

        I’ve been celebrating myself, but not for much longer. No more beer and only about 4oz of bacardi vanila left.

        Here’s to Johan, Matt, Boozer and Heinz ketchup.

        Cheers

  10. rockets212 says:

    its defidently karma for the seaver trade lol it took 30 some od years but its still karma b/c not one of our prospects will become anything like perrenial all-stars.

    • gomets6091 says:

      or the Ryan trade, or the Kazmir trade, or the….you get the point

      • The Glider says:

        You can’t count the Ryan trade. There, we traded the so-called “prospect” for aging, over the hill, veteran Jim Fregosi.

        • gomets6091 says:

          that’s the same as the Kazmir trade. I thought we were merely bringing up awful trades in Mets history involving pitchers.

  11. mrmet28 says:

    I love this trade right now just as much as everyone else, but I think that it will take three years until this can be called the biggest steal, or the best trade ever

  12. BSMITTYFDNY says:

    I am very happy buy until he passes physical and a deal is reached I am holding my breath. What if God forbid they cant work out a contract extension and the deal falls through. Also, if the Twins have remorse can they claim one of our players failed their physical to change their mind and nix the deal?

    • Mingo says:

      There is no way they don’t get this deal done.
      They just raised ticket prices and have a new stadium after this year. That means they need this guy as he will bring in big bucks for the Mets.
      Looking over the comments I repeatedly saw people saying they are ready to finalize their season tix now. Also, this puts the Mets on national TV more often and with higher ratings.
      Money isn’t the issue, its to both parties benefit that a deal is done.

  13. BSMITTYFDNY says:

    Is it possible the Twins get so much backlash with this deal that they claim one of our players failed their physical therefore nixing the deal? Also, will the Mets and Santana definetly reach a deal for a contract extension?

    • BSMITTYFDNY says:

      Sorry for the double post just reworded but I thought my first post got filtered.

    • Mingo says:

      And if they did that they would hurt their reputation permanently. They are better off moving forward.
      Also, they expected a major backlash no matter what they did.
      Its also quite possible that Santana asked for a trade to The Mets and the Twins had no choice. It was also obvious that this may have been the best offer left on the table.

  14. extrawhitemeat says:

    Just had to check one more time before bed, to make sure I didn’t dream this up today…

    Good night world :-)

    PS What happened to points guy?? I hope he’s alive to see this!

  15. The Glider says:

    The next question is . . . who is our no. 5 starting pitcher? For me, I’d like to make Duque our long man out of the bullpen. We just cannot count on him to be healthy in August/September – which he wasn’t each of the last two years we’ve had him.

    Do we sign Livan? I say no. While he’s been an innings eater, his stats have gone down hill in each of the last four years. And last year, I believe that his ERA was almost 5.

    Pelfrey? From what I’ve seen of Mike Pelfrey, he’s a one-pitch pitcher. Aside from his fastball, which he throw hard and with movement, he has no other pitch and his control has been inconsistent at best.

    Lohse. I’d consider him on a modest two-year, low risk, deal. But I’m not enamored with him either.

    I think the best bet out there is Aaron Heilman. If Duaner is healthy and earns back his 8th inning set-up job, then a combination of Feliciano, Sosa, Smith, Shoe, and maybe Padilla or El Duque can handle the 6th/7th innings.

    I think it’s time to give Heilman his chance. He had two solid pitches and certainly pitched well enough in spring training a couple seasons ago (when he competed against Bannister) to have earned a starting job.

    I know some of you cite to Heilman’s first opportunity to start, which, admittedly, during which he performed poorly. But that was BEFORE Dr. Rick Peterson performed surgery and fixed him in 5 minutes by having him drop his arm slot to where he used to have it when he dominated at Notre Dame. Once he made that change, he numbers and performances greatly improved.

    • stickguy says:

      I have no problem with Heilman either, but I don’t think we will see that happen.

      I disagree about Duque. I don’t think he will work well out of the pen (warming up, and irregular workload). At his age, and considering how long it takes him to warm up, it may be more dangerous.

      I say keep Duque in the rotation (has to be the bet #5 in the league, right?) Just keep running him out there, and get as many innings as possible out of him.

      The key is to have Pelfrey ready in AAA. Hopefully a couple of months there to refine his stuff and control, and he will be ready to come up and kick butt for whichever SP goes down 1st.

      So, no Livan or Lohse. They do need some more depth though. Garcia could be interesting.

      • The Glider says:

        I see your point about Duque coming out of the pen. I just think it won’t be as much of a grind compared to starting all year – but I could be wrong about that. I guess the good part for the Mets if they keep Duque in the rotation is that the no. 5 starter usually doesn’t get his starts until May because of the way the schedule is set up. That’ll save him a few starts at the end of the year.

        Garcia won’t be ready until mid-season. He was damaged goods when I saw him pitch for Philly. I’d be leery about signing him.

  16. matt is hottttt.

    where is points guy. he was my buddy. i’ll give him +10000 if he comes back.

  17. GravediggerHebner says:

    I’m incredibly excited but trying to keep it in check because no contracts have been signed and no physicals have taken place, plus we all know what happens to Met pitchers in taxicabs.

    I just spent a wonderful half hour or so reading the 240 something comments posted over at the Phillies blog Beerleaguer.com and I have to say that is a fine blog. The majority of the posts are thoughtful, even downright eloquent. They debate cordially, factually and intelligently. Very impressive.

    I was even a little embarrased by some of the posts my fellow Mets fans felt they had to make, but that’s their decision not mine, it’s a free country.

    The thing that made the greatest impression on me is how they despise the ownership and management they have in place. It made me feel luck to have Omar and the Wilpons. I encourage anyone who hasn’t done so already to check it out.

  18. squad says:

    My two cents.

    This is a great trade (obviously). Nothing else really needs to be said about it.

    Here’s an outside the box thought. There is a decent chance Alou gets hurt this season. And as much as I like Church, it would be nice to have the option of a RH hitter to spell him against tough lefties. Lastly, it would also be nice to allow Castro to pinch hit in games where he isn’t starting… he has nice pop off the bench.

    So here’s my proposal (it’s a bit off beat, but bear with me.) Sign Livan as the # 5. Move Duque to the pen (he’ll do it to play with his bro.) Trade Heilman to Detroit for Brandon Inge. The Tigers need bullpen help and would like to shed Inge’s salary. We could use Inge as like the 9th man. He could play 3-4 times a week, spelling Alou, Church, and even Delgado. He could also spell DWright on the rare day he needs a blow. Further, he has expressed a willingness to catch again, this would allow Castro to pinch hit late in games… even when Inge is playing, since he could always move behind the plate with another player taking his spot in the field.

    Lastly, when Alou leaves next season, if FMart needs another year of seasoning, Inge could play LF. If FMart is ready, he could play 1B if we don’t land a better option (obviously this wouldn’t be preferable, but it does give more flexibility). Seriously, the guy may not be an all star, but he is versatile, productive, and a team guy.

    • zen says:

      trading heilman would be a terrible move. there is no way the mets can further weaken their bullpen. if anything, they need to add an arm to the pen. duque hasn’t proven he can pitch out of the pen for a season successfully.

      can’t take a chance for a utility guy. endy can play if alou gets hurt or easley for leftfield

    • darkstar73 says:

      very interesting idea, but I think what Heilman gives us is more valuable then what Igne would give us. Pitching is where it’s at, and even with Santana, you don’t want to take away from what we already have. I think our offense is good enough at this point, and if Alou goes down, Endy can still fill in and Omar could sign another veteran to have around, or have Easley and Anderson fill the void as well. Not our biggest worry. However, good idea, I like that.

    • The Captain says:

      And now that this Santana saga is complete, its back to business baby! Omar should get to work on the 5th outfieder/utility with some pop. Preferably a player that could also play some 1B. However since Omar was able to hang on to Heilman in the Santana trade, think was played well and we should maintain Heilman’s contribution to the pen. Who’s Johan gonna hand his leads to? Remember we also have a great player in Pedro who will only pitch 5 to 6 innings per. An inconsistant Perez, an elderly Elduque. We have to keep this bull pen in tact especially with the probability of late night taxi rides to come. The fact is we’re lacking offensivly this year with a Scheider in the line up. He reminds me of an automatic out superb deffensive Rey Ordonez type. After Santana is signed long term, Omar must turn his attention to a 5th OF utility type with pop if roster space permits.

      • darkstar73 says:

        I would just like to say, that Brian Schneider is not Rey Ordonez. Ordonez got on base around .280-.300, maybe that, he was horrible, had absolutely no value in his offense. Schneider on the other hand can get on base upwards of .320-.330 without a good average at all. If Brian has even a decent year with the bat avg. wise, he could even get up to .340 OBP, which is perfectly fine for a #8 hitter, especially with a platoon like situation with a good hitter like Castro backing you up. The difference is, Brian take’s pitches, will clear the pitcher at a decent rate by taking walks, and doesn’t make as many outs as you think. He’s not going to hit HRs or doubles or anything, but he’s a catcher, you don’t normally expect that, but he’ll take walks, which is pretty valuable as a #8 hitter. Stop obsession about averages, realize what this guy is, and stop the nonsense.

        • The Captain says:

          Darkstar, way to stay positive and hope your correct about Schieder but Schieder’s bat is secondary to every Met starting position player for the last 2 years and it might hurt alittle to watch plate appearances compared to what Met fans have been used to watching. Nonsense in your opinion, but dont ruin my Santana high right now guy. And again, way to stay positive.

        • squad says:

          Darkstar, always enjoyed your input.

          Looking at the 40 man, we seem to have a plethora of arms: Wise, Register, Stokes, Muniz, Sosa, Smith. That’s not even including a guy like Rustich or our first rounder from last year.

          If Duaner proved himself healthy and one or two of the above mentioned pitchers lights it up in spring training, Heilman could become expendable. But that’s getting ahead of ourselves a bit.

          Anyway, you are right… this isn’t a big “need” for us, but I felt it was worth throwing out there.

          As for Schneider, I have been repeating this over and over on John Delcos’ LoHud blog (it’s actually pretty decent over there). People don’t realize his OBP was higher than LoDuca’s last season. I do think there is a shot (albeit a longshot) that he pulls a Mientkiewicz and pops a few homers down the RF line at Shea, but even if this doesn’t happen, as long as he plays strong D and stays patient at the plate, I am fine with him hitting 8th.

      • The Captain says:

        I mean I’d love to grab Inge, just not for Heilman

  19. The Captain says:

    First of all, Id like to thank Cashman for running out of Cash to spend on high profile contracts by over spending it all this past 5 plus years. Id like to thank A Rod for always thinking of himself, being so greedy and milking that Steinberger guy dry, ,,Id like to thank Theo Epstein for developing such a great team w out the need for Santana, and also over paying like an idiot for Dice K, and a special thanks to Omar Minaya for this great day.

  20. TheMonstersOutOfTheCage says:

    WOW I think this means we might have a met pitcher start the allstar game at yankee stadium

    • GravediggerHebner says:

      Damn you Monster, my smile was finally subsiding buy you just made it grow full again. I’m gonna look like the Joker in the morning.

  21. TheMonstersOutOfTheCage says:

    Wow Johan Might be the starting pitcher for the national league at the allstar game at yankee stadium

  22. darkstar73 says:

    This is why you wait until the offseason is over before you start harping on all the non-moves and complaining about the GM and ownership and what not. People don’t understand that, probably never will, but patience is a virtue people, and Omar Minaya just slapped you in the face with it. Those people won’t be saying too much around here for a bit, but I’m sure they’ll be back, but this is for all of them, the doubters, the haters, the non-believers. I think it’s time to instill the message that bloggers on this site used to follow…IN OMAR WE TRUST! Keep believin’, Mets in ‘08!

    • zen says:

      the complaining was largely tied to the poor performance of omar and the team during the 2007 season. specifically, not improving the rotation or bullpen knowing that pedro and sanchez would miss the majority if not all of the 2007 season.

      2007 remains a failure. you can argue the same about 2006 when the mets were by far the favorites to go to the world series. personally, i think omar did an good job since joining the mets especially in 2006 and now 2008.

      he’s not immune from criticism though. let’s be honest too: if the yankees or red sox really wanted santana he wouldn’t be a met. great job by omar regardless.

      blind loyalty to an ownership and front office that hasn’t won a world series in 21 years is silly. great job with santana. do well, get credit. do poorly, get criticism.

      • darkstar73 says:

        oh please, get off your high horse, enjoy the moment, the man just got us the best pitcher in baseball, ‘07 didn’t work out, it happens, and if you expect that, you’re crazy. The reason I love baseball is its unpredictable nature, the fact that you can see something new everytime you watch a game, that a season never unfolds the same way twice. Deal with the bad, enjoy the good. Nothing is perfect. It’s baseball, and if you take it too seriously, its no longer the game its supposed to be.

        • zen says:

          high horse? i’m not the one calling out mets fans. that’s you. i’m certainly enjoying the moment/signing. i defended the team and omar all season. at the end, i was wrong.

          try not to pat yourself on the back too much. enjoy the debate and variety of opinions. free speech was tough to gain.

        • squad says:

          Minaya’s been with the team for 21 years? That’s funny I thought he’s only been the GM since 2005. Guess I was wrong.

          This is the problem with Mets fans. We want to always analogize the current team to a team from the past. 2006 was supposed to be like 1986. 2007 was supposed to be a repeat of 2006.

          The Mets don’t have a history of developing prospects so we need to trade every single one whenever we have the chance.

          What happened in the past is the past. Wilpon has shown that he has changed (if you don’t believe this after trading for and signing Santana, you never will,) and Minaya has shown himself to be a competent GM.

          Zen, I totally agree that criticism should be levied after a bad move, but I have seen Omar lambasted this off season for the Milledge trade. While I will be the first to point out that he’s had a rough go of it since the Nady trade, I feel like he has done enough right while the GM of this trade to build up enough capital with the fan base to have us trust him.

          No one knew who Xavier Nady, Duaner Sanchez, or John Maine were when he dealt for them. They all turned out to play big roles for us. Sure, Ben Johnson didn’t pan out, but I would say there have been more pluses than minuses for Minaya.

          I’ve seen countless people bring up his “inability” to deal for a pitcher at the deadline. You mentioned with the Yanks and Sox pulling out of the Santana sweepstakes; trading is a very delicate game, and you need to strike when the iron is hot. It takes two to tango and perhaps Minaya didn’t find any pretty girls he wanted to dance with last July. I mean, the Nationals were rumored to want Pelfrey and Humber for Chad Cordero… give me a break.

          The collapse had more to do with a freak occurrence that was pretty much a mathematical anomaly than Minaya failing to acquire an arm. (Heck, look at how terrible Gagne was for Boston.)

          Ultimately, my problem (and I assume those with similar viewpoints) with a lot of Mets fans is they crowned Minaya a genius after 2006, but were all of a sudden questioning him after 2007. Now, they certainly had some legitimate beefs, but how does a guy go from head of the class to the bottom so soon? Some even suggested firing him. That’s just ridiculous.

        • itsPhil says:

          FYI: Omar Minaya was actually assistant GM to his predecessor Steve Phillips. (with the mets pre-2005)

          Not attacking you, just trying to make sure we all are more knowledgable Mets fans. It will ultimately help keep us from fighting over the incidental things we seem to get caught up in,

          Let’s all be nice, we DO have Johan Santana. And Omar did a good job, as he has unargueably done since he took over GM.

          Forget about all the years before 2008. Nobody is perfect, not even the Yankees. We have had ups and downs like everyone else. We’ve made good moves and bad.

          WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM THIS YEAR! LET’S GO METS!!!!

  23. zen says:

    Despite the concerns voiced by some, one person who said he felt the Twins made out pretty well in the deal was former Mets pitcher Tom Glavine, who recently signed a one-year deal with the Braves.

    “I think Carlos Gomez has a chance to be a fantastic player,” Glavine said of his former teammate. “You hear a lot about five-tool guys and he’s definitely a legit five-tool guy. Humber, the same way, has a great arm and great potential. Long-term, this could be a very good trade for the Twins.”

    yeah. and short-term it ensures that tommy never see the playoffs again.

    web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080129&content_id=342876&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp

    • hotrodkanehl says:

      All he’s saying is that the Twins may get a good return on one or more of these prospects down the road. Fair enough comment, given that we thought these 4 were among our top 7 prospects. And I think that quote is a bit out of context. Here’s more of what TG said:

      “Within the division, I think you have three teams that can now not only win the division, but also the World Series. I think all three teams did a nice job of filling their biggest needs.

      “It wasn’t like you looked at the Mets and thought they wouldn’t contend. They have too good of a team. But when you looked at the team, there was obvious concern about their rotation. When you looked their needs, you said they needed a young, front-line starter and they certainly addressed that in a big way

  24. Jay says:

    I just want to review this offseason. So…

    1) We finally have our ace.
    2) Duaner is doing well.
    3) We upgraded defensively (and arguably offensively, considering lo duca needs surgery now) at catcher and right field.
    4) We have 2 first round draft picks for next year and have implied that they will now pay over slot
    5) We still have FMart, Pelfrey, and Heilman (!?!?!?!)

    Seriously, can anyone map out a better scenario?

  25. anditsouttahere says:

    how wonderfully will gary cohen say the name “johan santana”, i can hear it now gary, cant wait for spring training.

  26. Goradot33 says:

    Really just an UNBELIEVABLE day to be a Met fan. The news spread like wildfire… so many texts and phone calls between elated Mets faithful. I honestly have NO IDEA what the Twins were thinking, but that’s fine by me. We kept our top outfiled prospect, our most advanced pitching prospect, and… oh yeah, acquired the best pitcher in baseball. In his prime. And he’s a lefty. And he wants to be here.

    Without this move, the whole tone of 2008 season would be vastly different for us. With every 3 game losing streak, every loss to the Phils… the conversation would all come back to the collapse of ‘07. It was a black cloud hanging over this franchise since September 30th, and would have characterized the ‘08 season. Now, with the addition of Johan, optimism is clearly back in Met-land, and all of a sudden this has a chance to be a very special final season at Shea.

    Still pinching myself that this is real. GET THE DEAL DONE and LET’S GO METS!

    IN OMAR WE TRUST – YA GOTTA BELIEVE!

  27. metballnut says:

    I don’t care how much we need to pay the MAN!
    I see a Thursday or Friday Morning Press Conference at Shea, with Santana holding up a #57 Mets uniform and he is 140-150 6-7 year deal Million dollars richer.
    Citibank is paying the frieght anyway…20 million a year! Mets throw in the rest and we have the Friday, Saturday and Sunday papers touting the great move by Omar the king!
    Ladies and Gents, the last time the Mets brought in a pitcher in his prime was Mike Hampton and we traded Dotel for him. Mike Hampton took the Mets to the World Series the next year and if we had a GM worth his salt, we could have Paid for private schools for Mike’s kids!
    Now, we need to secure another outfielder RH (Nady or Mench) as backup for Alou. Nady would be the best option as he can play first as well.

  28. LImetfan08 says:

    What a day huh? I found out from a kid in class poking my back since he noticed I had my Mets hat on and broke the news to me. I was giddy like a little girl running around yelling. I even recited “Meet the Mets” in my dorm hall. The only thing better than this deal itself, is the reactions of Philly and Brave fans on blogs. The Phillies fans are already crying and some argue it doesn’t change a thing which is quite amusing. Johan Santana isn’t a pitcher…he’s a divine human being that happens to pitch…he has come to bring the Mets to the promised land. So far Rollins has talked about how they will easily win 100 games (tries to hold back smirk), Glavine is trying to downplay the trade, and make negative inferences about the Mets since he is now in Atlanta, and Shane Victorino is talking trash. Only a Santana trade can make grown men whine like jealous little kids. I still don’t know how the deal got done…Gomez can’t hit his way out of a paper bag, Humber= average at best, Mulvey=lots of pressure to be a great pitcher, Guerra= way too young still to forsee his future. I think one of the biggest MVP’s of this trade was the NY media and fans. We jacked up the perceived value of our mediocre at best prospects and made them seem like the second coming of Jesus. Gomez the next Rollins? Oh boy…I almost feel bad for the Twins, since they think he can pan out as a 20+ HR guy. It has gone unnoticed, but the NY media played a big role, brainwashing the Twins into salivating over nothing. We gave them 4 pebbles of gravel, and we got a diamond. Sucks to be a Minnesota fan and now a Phillies and Braves fan.

  29. zen says:

    steve phillips:

    mets best team in the nl
    santana will win cy young this year

    shocking! finally give the mets and omar some credit.

  30. pedro4545 says:

    Hell has officially frozen over….Steve Phillips just picked the Mets as the team to beat in the NL and Johan Santana as the favorite to win the Cy Young! HAHAHA what a day!

  31. metsftw says:

    so when do santana jerseys go on sale?

  32. jlazar2 says:

    SO WHEN DID STEVE PHILLIPS SAY THIS!!! I GOTTA HEAR THIS
    im gunna stay up all night watching sportscenter just to hear him say this

  33. The Glider says:

    Ok, we got Santana and all the good things that go with it. We still have to go out and do it. And we still have a lot of issues:

    1. Will Maine and Perez improve in their consistency or will they continue to flirt with disaster in each start?

    2. Will Delgado continue to decline or will he have a bounce back year?

    3. How many games will we get out of Moises in left and who will step in and pick up the slack WHEN he gets hurt?

    4. Will Jose come back from last year or will it continue to stay in his head if he gets off to a slow start?

    5. Will Castillo’s knee hold up?

    6. Will Brian Schneider hit enough out of the 8th spot in the order?

    7. Will Ryan Church hit lefties and, if not, who will he platoon with?

  34. PDubs says:

    A post from Beerleaguer, a Phillies blog:

    “In New York, they are celebrating an upcoming Super Bowl and the acquisition of Johan Santana. In Philly, we are celebrating the fact that TO owes us money and the acquisition of Pedro Feliz. God, I feel pathetic.”

    I LOVE IT!!!!

  35. DaveFil7 says:

    This is a great day as a New York Met fan. Without this splash, our organization would have continued to be demoralized after the collapse. I’ve had trouble backing this team this offseason like I have for many years prior due to the lay down they pulled on us.

    But we can now rejoice in something new, something exiting, and god bless a healthy season from the best pitcher in baseball. Lets bring it home!

  36. a49erfan77 says:

    Correct me if I am wrong..but weren’t the Mets the favorites to win the NL East and NL last year? Yeah…that’s what I thought.

  37. Mingo says:

    We Lost Glavine this off-season. He was our biggest lefty with an ERA around 4.50-5.00.
    We gained Santana, his ERA is in the low 3’s.
    Humber and Mulvey were not going to be the number 5 guy in the rotation as Pelfrey and El Duque were going to get the lion’s share at those starts. (Humber or Mulvey may have gotten 3 to 4 starts there all year). Carlos Gomez is at best our 5th outfielder or even our 6th behind Endy and Easley. When the Mets are healthy he slots no higher than David Newhan, he needed to be traded to develop properly. Deolis Guerra has never pitched above A ball. His learning curve is going to be great or bad. He may be an eventual number 1 guy but that is probably 3 years away.
    The point I am getting is that none of the prospects were helpful to the Mets at this time and probably not in the close future. Hence, all we really do is lose Glavine and gain Santana. This is something I would do any day.