Comments on: Buzz: Interest in Lohse and Livan http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:48:33 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Beezer http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-94080 Beezer Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:06:12 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-94080 Any Thoughts to Jeff Weaver as a #5 ? Any Thoughts to Jeff Weaver as a #5 ?

]]> By: TheTMinator http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93857 TheTMinator Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:56:13 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93857 In my estimation, adding an extra pitcher is NEVER a bad idea in a 162-game season. It gives you more options and takes pitching options away from other clubs. The points about the luxury tax are valid and my memories of Lohse's stuff aren't overwhelming. If ANYTHING, Leevie or however you spell his name, would make more sense. His stuff is better and he's an innings eater. Pass on Lohse unless there's some scheme to move him for someone else. If you want another pitcher take Duque's brother short term if he's still out there. Make a one year offer, and if he's interested in being on a team with his half brother and Santana and all of its potential to go deep into the fall, than here's a jersey and a hat dude. In my estimation, adding an extra pitcher is NEVER a bad idea in a 162-game season. It gives you more options and takes pitching options away from other clubs. The points about the luxury tax are valid and my memories of Lohse’s stuff aren’t overwhelming. If ANYTHING, Leevie or however you spell his name, would make more sense. His stuff is better and he’s an innings eater. Pass on Lohse unless there’s some scheme to move him for someone else. If you want another pitcher take Duque’s brother short term if he’s still out there. Make a one year offer, and if he’s interested in being on a team with his half brother and Santana and all of its potential to go deep into the fall, than here’s a jersey and a hat dude.

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93841 therealsince86 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:39:06 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93841 Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93838 therealsince86 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:38:18 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93838 Do you really think Elduque's body would hold up if used out of the pen for the season? Plus, how many starts did Darren Oliver get and he was a lights out long man? Elduque will be the #5 starter come opening day as well he should be. Much of the reason we got off to a hot start last year was due to Elduque, he was like an ace. Do you really think Elduque’s body would hold up if used out of the pen for the season? Plus, how many starts did Darren Oliver get and he was a lights out long man? Elduque will be the #5 starter come opening day as well he should be. Much of the reason we got off to a hot start last year was due to Elduque, he was like an ace.

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93836 therealsince86 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:35:20 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93836 I agree, it was said in joke. Trying to convince Pedro to miss half his starts? Right. Paying 20 million for one starter when you combine Pedro and Elduque's contracts? Right. I agree, it was said in joke. Trying to convince Pedro to miss half his starts? Right. Paying 20 million for one starter when you combine Pedro and Elduque’s contracts? Right.

]]> By: stickguy http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93796 stickguy Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:54:01 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93796 Duque should start until his arm falls off. Then you go to pan B. So plan B either needs to be the long man (Sosa? Yuck), young gy in AAA (Pelf is all that is left), or make0good guy in AAA (Garcia? Armas? Whoever this years Lima is, but hopefully better!) You also need at least 2 plan B guys, in case you lose 2 starters at the same time. Duque should start until his arm falls off. Then you go to pan B.

So plan B either needs to be the long man (Sosa? Yuck), young gy in AAA (Pelf is all that is left), or make0good guy in AAA (Garcia? Armas? Whoever this years Lima is, but hopefully better!)

You also need at least 2 plan B guys, in case you lose 2 starters at the same time.

]]> By: Kalihan42 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93782 Kalihan42 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:36:02 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93782 I really do not think this is a serious pursuit. No need to get worked up on this one. We are just makng Phillies life more difficult driving up the price. They can't spend like we can so when we drive up a pitchers price that they are interested in we make it much more difficult for them to build a rotation that can beat us. This is a good move in general! I really do not think this is a serious pursuit. No need to get worked up on this one. We are just makng Phillies life more difficult driving up the price. They can’t spend like we can so when we drive up a pitchers price that they are interested in we make it much more difficult for them to build a rotation that can beat us. This is a good move in general!

]]> By: Kalihan42 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93766 Kalihan42 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:11:01 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93766 I doubt he would be used for the whole season out of the pen. More of an occasuional spot starter/long releiver...2-3 innings a couple of days a week, with a few emergency appearences in tie games in extra innings. He seemed to do well with the job at the end of last season. Its worth a try. I doubt he would be used for the whole season out of the pen. More of an occasuional spot starter/long releiver…2-3 innings a couple of days a week, with a few emergency appearences in tie games in extra innings. He seemed to do well with the job at the end of last season. Its worth a try.

]]> By: Nate W. http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93764 Nate W. Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:07:37 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93764 and who should ask Pedro to volunteer to spend half the season on the DL while healthy? there is no room in the pen to stash away a starter, so unless you can convince Duque and Pedro to alternate DL stints while healthy that just isnt a idea that has a starting point. and who should ask Pedro to volunteer to spend half the season on the DL while healthy?

there is no room in the pen to stash away a starter, so unless you can convince Duque and Pedro to alternate DL stints while healthy that just isnt a idea that has a starting point.

]]> By: darkstar73 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93757 darkstar73 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:00:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/04/buzz-interest-in-lohse-and-livan/#comment-93757 I do'nt understand the El Duque to the bullpen because of his health issues. If anything, he'd be more prone to injury pitching more often out of the bullpen. He'd have to get warmed up more often, pitch more frequently, and in higher stress situations. How does that add up to more healthy? He's also a guy that over the length of an entire season loses interest at times, and he'd be more prone to do that in the bullpen, instead of knowing he has to pitch every 5 games. Simply don't understand the bullpen/El Duque arguement, especially considering he gave up 150 innings last year with a .208 BAA. People, that's REALLY good. More innings the better from him. ONe more thing, he also is prone to the long ball, his one fault, which will hurt more in the bullpen cause he might be coming in with runners on or with more at stake in the game. Don't understand this one bit. I do’nt understand the El Duque to the bullpen because of his health issues. If anything, he’d be more prone to injury pitching more often out of the bullpen. He’d have to get warmed up more often, pitch more frequently, and in higher stress situations. How does that add up to more healthy? He’s also a guy that over the length of an entire season loses interest at times, and he’d be more prone to do that in the bullpen, instead of knowing he has to pitch every 5 games. Simply don’t understand the bullpen/El Duque arguement, especially considering he gave up 150 innings last year with a .208 BAA. People, that’s REALLY good. More innings the better from him. ONe more thing, he also is prone to the long ball, his one fault, which will hurt more in the bullpen cause he might be coming in with runners on or with more at stake in the game. Don’t understand this one bit.

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