Comments on: Read: Santana’s Contract, Value and Insurance http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: murpheeee http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-96235 murpheeee Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:43:31 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-96235 Is the entire contract un-insured? Can't they insure the first five years of it at least? That is a massive financial gamble, thats like buying a space shuttle, finacing it over 6 years and getting no manufacturer's warranty. Glad its not my money.... Is the entire contract un-insured?
Can’t they insure the first five years of it at least?

That is a massive financial gamble, thats like buying a space shuttle, finacing it over 6 years and getting no manufacturer’s warranty. Glad its not my money….

]]> By: steve333 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-96189 steve333 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:26:15 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-96189 Am I the only one who thinks Santana is a greedy SOB? Seriously, acting like a spoiled brat over 5 million out of a contract that huge? I would have told him to go F himself. Guess you're all glad I'm not the owner! Am I the only one who thinks Santana is a greedy SOB?
Seriously, acting like a spoiled brat over 5 million out of a contract that huge?
I would have told him to go F himself. Guess you’re all glad I’m not the owner!

]]> By: ceb http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95927 ceb Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:45:32 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95927 There is simply no way you can look at this agreement after the fact and say the Mets simply rolled over — in fact, almost everybody thinks that this contract is *considerably* less lucrative than what Santana could have gotten on the market as a free agent after 2008. Sounds like that's what you want to think, in your perfect world. Of course the Mets rolled over, just like the Yankees would have if the deal had fallen through and Santana walked away to sign with them. That's a New York thing, by the way. Get your insurance now on this guy. He had a dead arm half of last season and if you get 25 wins out of him over the length of the contract you will be doing well. Of course, if his arm dies out, you can play him in right field (where he'd hit as well as half the NL outfielders) until your "prize" untouchable 18 year old prospect is ready. There is simply no way you can look at this agreement after the fact and say the Mets simply rolled over — in fact, almost everybody thinks that this contract is *considerably* less lucrative than what Santana could have gotten on the market as a free agent after 2008.

Sounds like that’s what you want to think, in your perfect world. Of course the Mets rolled over, just like the Yankees would have if the deal had fallen through and Santana walked away to sign with them. That’s a New York thing, by the way.

Get your insurance now on this guy. He had a dead arm half of last season and if you get 25 wins out of him over the length of the contract you will be doing well. Of course, if his arm dies out, you can play him in right field (where he’d hit as well as half the NL outfielders) until your “prize” untouchable 18 year old prospect is ready.

]]> By: IH8FREDCOUPONS http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95899 IH8FREDCOUPONS Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:30:13 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95899 do i still get ripped for worrying and calling the wilpons coupons???......I know i was wrong but I knew it took to long for a reason do i still get ripped for worrying and calling the wilpons coupons???……I know i was wrong but I knew it took to long for a reason

]]> By: hyperion4 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95888 hyperion4 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:14:54 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95888 One of the things that I like about the way the negotiations went down is that it destroys Buster Olney's repeated claims that the Mets were in a terrible bargaining position, that they would have to give Santana whatever he asked for, etc. I think this is a fair contract for both sides (given the market), but the Mets did well in terms of maintaining their position in terms of years and dollars. There is simply no way you can look at this agreement after the fact and say the Mets simply rolled over -- in fact, almost everybody thinks that this contract is *considerably* less lucrative than what Santana could have gotten on the market as a free agent after 2008. That Santana signed with the Mets, and is evidently happy with the agreement, suggests that he had something to lose as well and did not have all the bargaining power. One of the things that I like about the way the negotiations went down is that it destroys Buster Olney’s repeated claims that the Mets were in a terrible bargaining position, that they would have to give Santana whatever he asked for, etc. I think this is a fair contract for both sides (given the market), but the Mets did well in terms of maintaining their position in terms of years and dollars. There is simply no way you can look at this agreement after the fact and say the Mets simply rolled over — in fact, almost everybody thinks that this contract is *considerably* less lucrative than what Santana could have gotten on the market as a free agent after 2008. That Santana signed with the Mets, and is evidently happy with the agreement, suggests that he had something to lose as well and did not have all the bargaining power.

]]> By: Johan Santana http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95877 Johan Santana Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:47:46 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95877 I DIDN'T SAY ANY OF THAT, I WAS JUST CONCERNED WITH ERIC VALENT COMING BACK TO THE TEAM AND STEALING MY NUMBER! I DIDN’T SAY ANY OF THAT, I WAS JUST CONCERNED WITH ERIC VALENT COMING BACK TO THE TEAM AND STEALING MY NUMBER!

]]> By: Rawjah Clemens Is In Jawgies Bawx http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95864 Rawjah Clemens Is In Jawgies Bawx Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:23:33 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95864 I'm very flattered. I’m very flattered.

]]> By: MetsUKfan http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95837 MetsUKfan Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:04:26 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95837 I am a bit puzzled by the insurance. Surely it would be more dependent on age and medical history of the pitcher. Whats the difference between a 5 year contract and a 7 year one? Do pitchers suddenly stop at 36 or 37? How can a 40+ old pitcher be insured for 3 years? 25 year olds with poor actions probably get injured more often than 35 year olds with actions that are tried and tested over long seasons. I would seriously question the story. I am a bit puzzled by the insurance. Surely it would be more dependent on age and medical history of the pitcher.

Whats the difference between a 5 year contract and a 7 year one? Do pitchers suddenly stop at 36 or 37? How can a 40+ old pitcher be insured for 3 years?

25 year olds with poor actions probably get injured more often than 35 year olds with actions that are tried and tested over long seasons. I would seriously question the story.

]]> By: FBones24 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95834 FBones24 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:00:46 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95834 Oh my god, I just read that and you guys are right. That is such bolgna!! He put the conversation in quotes meaning that is word for word what happened in those last 5 minutes. That is so ridiculous. I'm almost certain that it did not go down like that. Who would disclose that information? I really don't care what happened at this point, but I'm getting sick of the sports media constantly finding new ways to make the Mets look bad. Oh my god, I just read that and you guys are right. That is such bolgna!! He put the conversation in quotes meaning that is word for word what happened in those last 5 minutes. That is so ridiculous. I’m almost certain that it did not go down like that. Who would disclose that information?

I really don’t care what happened at this point, but I’m getting sick of the sports media constantly finding new ways to make the Mets look bad.

]]> By: starz31 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95833 starz31 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:00:45 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/07/read-santanas-contract-value-and-insurance/#comment-95833 Yea I was wondering the same thing...I picture him on the outside of the door with a glass up to his ear... none the less...I like santana's attidue... He's fiery. Yea I was wondering the same thing…I picture him on the outside of the door with a glass up to his ear…

none the less…I like santana’s attidue… He’s fiery.

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