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In a post to Mets Geek, John Peterson revisits the Seven Worst Games from 2007.
…dear god, man…move on…we’re less than week from pitchers and catchers…for 2008…
Brooklyn Met Fan gives his thoughts on Pedro Martinez’s role in a cockfight, writing…
“Although I’m personally not a fan of watching animals kill other animals the fact remains it’s legal and ingrained in some cultures of Latin America. Hey I don’t think people around the world should eat monkeys either but I’m not gonna get too worked up about it.”
Lastly, Mets Mole takes a look at Five Unlikely Factors that Made Johan a Met, including Tom Glavine’s disastrous performance on the last day of the season, of which he concludes…
“And for these reasons, the Shea Faithful should give Glavine a roaring standing ovation when he takes the mound in Queens the final week of April.”
…i like Mets Mole, who is very critical of me at times, but that’s a good thing…nevertheless, this is an interesting line of thinking…would Johan Santana be on the Mets right now had glavine instead thrown a gem helping to pitch the Mets in to and beyond a one-game playoff…something tells me he would be, and glavine would be gone regardless because his departure had more to do with going home than running away…and with or without glavine, the Mets still needed to acquire an ace…
I think Santana would still be a Met. IMO Glavine wasn’t signed because of average performances through the whole season. His last game only enforced what the management secretly thought.
I think Omar made Santana’s mind up about joining the Mets when he/Minnesota played the Mets in June. The first step of that was the acquisition of Castillo. The same way Omar tried with Miguel Cabrera in May.
I think it takes longer than 2 months of close season to woo the best pitcher in baseball.
y cant he juss keep using his COCK, it’s his not yours…..lnol whats wrong with fighting with his cock…. if his Cock is as nasty as he pitches, thats one nasty COCK he got there….
The more important question is this: Would Johan Santana be on the Mets if they had never traded Turk Wendell? I think we should give Turk the standing ovation for moving aside when he did.
But seriously, that’s a tough line of reasoning, because if Glavine pitches a gem and they end up in the playoffs, take that a step further and ask if they had won the World Series, would you care about Santana? Sure, they’d be a weaker team going into ‘08, even if they had kept Glavine, but they’d also be World Champs.
I think the GMs job is to maintain competitiveness for many seasons, not a single season.
A lot of fans here called for the Mets to trade F-Mart, even some suggested trade Reyes for Santana.
However we found out that Omar hadn’t even included Guerra till the last day. That shows there is NO sentiment involved and Glavine would have been gone either way.
Its very rare that a proven pitcher becomes available. It doesn’t matter if you have won a world series or not. Santana is an improvement on whatever you have. As the Bosox and Yankees will soon discover.
OK, not an insult to anyone’s way of thinking here, but what are the odds Guerra was thrown in at the end to seal the deal for Santana? Especially since the exact trade offer many sources posted for weeks is the one that obtained Santana. Reality now, Omar strong armed Smith because he could, and because Smith needed to keep some honor as a rookie GM since his trade for grade A prospect in Hughs fell through, Omar allowed twins GM Smith to maintain his dignity by claiming Smith managed to squeeze Guerra into the package which is a wise move for future transactions with any GM. A win win situation for Omar and the Mets.
Wow, the 11-10 game in Philly didn’t make the cut-only as a ‘yeah they lost the next day too’?
Or the game where Beltran couldn’t catch JRoll’s drive and turned it into a 2 run triple to waste Pedro’s start?
Or the game where Greg Frickin’ Dobbs hit a grand slam and the Mets made six errors?
Wow, tough list.
It wasn’t a Philly centric highlight list (as much as you’d like to make it one, feel free to Beerleaguer your own) it was a Met list. See, you’re not as important as you think.
Philadelphia Phillies. 1883-2008. One World Championship.
You’re seriously telling me that last game in Philly at the end of August wasn’t bad enough to make the list? It’s certainly debatable that the two Philly losses from earlier in the season weren’t worse.
Are you telling me that some loss in April was worse than the final Met choke in Philly, or a couple of them in September at Shea?
And you’re right, three of the games out of seven were against other teams, so it wasn’t totally Philly-centric.
i dont understand why everyone wants to give love to glavine
i know i will do my best to go to the game and boo that son of gun as loud as i can and i know several of the faithful that agree with me
he may have pitched for a while for los mets but i still remember that last game of the season and its burned in mind like a cattle brand
I honestly look back on his time with the Mets and unfortunately the last game he pitched is the only one I remember. I will be there booing with you. Hall of famer or not, he is a wussss!
100% agree. its not that he lost the game, if he went out and through 6 innings and gave up like 4 runs and we lost he clearly wouldnt have gotten all the blame but the guy COULDNT GET OUT OF THE 1ST INNING! thats just ridiculous. he deserves to be booed by every single fan in the stadium.
He was always full of excuses. “Well, if the ball had dropped here instead of there…” and so forth. His comments after the season were over hardly endeared him to any of us either. He had a very rocky start in the contract, and didn’t hit his stride until almost mid-way through said contract as well. Nobody wanted him signed to begin with, he had his high point in 2006, but other than that he’s been mediocre. Good luck in Atlanta, you POS. At least now I won’t have to hear so much about how he’s such a “class act” and how he’s “involved in the community” in Queens.
Yes the Mets still needed an ace, but had we squeeked into the playoffs would the front office have been willing to spend that kind of money to land him?
If we had made the playoffs, “the collapse” would have instead have been a near collapse and forgotten about. Glavine would have still gone but they could probably have signed a Lohse or Livan to replace him.
I feel the collapse forced them to make that push.
2 games that im surprised are not on there are the loss in pitt when we couldve swept and they came from behind big time against the bullpen. that was absolutely brutal, and the following thursday at home against SD when marlon anderson hit that BIG pinch hit HR to put us in front and it looked like it was going to be one of those great 2006ish games that we would win in dramatic fashion but it turned out to be a typical 2007 game with the bullpen (cough wagner cough) blowing the game in the end.
id like to see a poll “will you boo glavine or shower him with praise and offer to give him a rimjob?”
good point about bullfighting. i mean, what if pedro was from spain, and was aguest matador or something? critics need to put this in perspective. it’s NOT like vick in the US
The Pedro video’s up on Deadspin/Gawker now.