Comments on: Read: Lidge is Ready for Action http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: EastFallowfield http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-98125 EastFallowfield Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:34:57 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-98125 Kinda funny coming from fans of team that couldn't beat Washington or Florida with their season on the line... Kinda funny coming from fans of team that couldn’t beat Washington or Florida with their season on the line…

]]> By: EastFallowfield http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-98089 EastFallowfield Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:22:18 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-98089 Seems to hit the Mets OK over his career... Seems to hit the Mets OK over his career…

]]> By: tinathemetsgrl http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97943 tinathemetsgrl Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:22:07 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97943 hahaha yes and he will =) hahaha yes and he will =)

]]> By: tinathemetsgrl http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97941 tinathemetsgrl Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:20:59 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97941 The difference there is that the Cardinals and Astros were playing and winning games in the post-season. The Phillies haven't won a single playoff game in what, a decade? The difference there is that the Cardinals and Astros were playing and winning games in the post-season. The Phillies haven’t won a single playoff game in what, a decade?

]]> By: BigHangWithEm http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97892 BigHangWithEm Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:37:25 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97892 Lets look at some #s then. Lidge, the past two seasons has been giving up 1.2 HRs per 9 innings. That rate is pretty close to a certain Armando Benitez (1.3 per 9 innings) in 1999-2000 when he was a "dominant closer" For some more perspective, Wagner in his two Phillie seasons (2004-2005) was giving up 0.79 HRs per 9 innings at Citizens Bank Bandbox. In his last two years in Houston (2002-2003 at Minute Maid Park) and his past two seasons as a Met, Wagner was giving up the gopher ball at a rate of 0.84 per 9 innings. Yes, these are very small and not very scientific samples (I threw this together in all of 10 mins) but I think it is pretty likely that Lidge will continue the downward spiral that he's been on since the 2005 postseason, contract year or no contract year. Lets look at some #s then.

Lidge, the past two seasons has been giving up 1.2 HRs per 9 innings.

That rate is pretty close to a certain Armando Benitez (1.3 per 9 innings) in 1999-2000 when he was a “dominant closer”

For some more perspective, Wagner in his two Phillie seasons (2004-2005) was giving up 0.79 HRs per 9 innings at Citizens Bank Bandbox. In his last two years in Houston (2002-2003 at Minute Maid Park) and his past two seasons as a Met, Wagner was giving up the gopher ball at a rate of 0.84 per 9 innings.

Yes, these are very small and not very scientific samples (I threw this together in all of 10 mins) but I think it is pretty likely that Lidge will continue the downward spiral that he’s been on since the 2005 postseason, contract year or no contract year.

]]> By: BigHangWithEm http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97874 BigHangWithEm Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:14:06 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97874 I hear you Hebner, personally I feel "wiggling out of trouble" = very lucky which means eventually all those stranded runners will turn into earned runs. That's why I never liked Bannister as a Met. People cited his ability to miraculously leave the bases loaded every time as a good thing. It just meant that he was giving up a lot of hits and walks and getting a lucky out here and there. I hear you Hebner,

personally I feel “wiggling out of trouble” = very lucky

which means eventually all those stranded runners will turn into earned runs.

That’s why I never liked Bannister as a Met. People cited his ability to miraculously leave the bases loaded every time as a good thing. It just meant that he was giving up a lot of hits and walks and getting a lucky out here and there.

]]> By: Fregosi http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97868 Fregosi Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:58:24 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97868 This guy Lidge is in a contract year. He'll blow a few saves but he'll save a bunch too (just like Billy the Kid). Remember, with that offense, he will be coming into the 9th with 2-3 runs leads to protect. I wouldn't be surprised if he saves 40 games. This guy Lidge is in a contract year. He’ll blow a few saves but he’ll save a bunch too (just like Billy the Kid). Remember, with that offense, he will be coming into the 9th with 2-3 runs leads to protect. I wouldn’t be surprised if he saves 40 games.

]]> By: GravediggerHebner http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97842 GravediggerHebner Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:26:46 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97842 I hope you're correct. My point was that, so far, Lidge has exhibited the ability to wiggle out of trouble. Which makes him like most mortal closers. At least in 2006 he allowed bad things to snowball and a return to that trend is what I'm hoping for as a Met fan. He's used to having home fans that range from polite to indifferent. He won't get either of those things in CBP. I hope you’re correct. My point was that, so far, Lidge has exhibited the ability to wiggle out of trouble. Which makes him like most mortal closers. At least in 2006 he allowed bad things to snowball and a return to that trend is what I’m hoping for as a Met fan. He’s used to having home fans that range from polite to indifferent. He won’t get either of those things in CBP.

]]> By: BigHangWithEm http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97838 BigHangWithEm Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:18:58 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97838 So with a lot of guys on base those eventual solo shots will turn into backbreaking 2 and 3 run homers, sprinkle in the occasional grand slam and you have BIG trouble for little Brad. So with a lot of guys on base those eventual solo shots will turn into backbreaking 2 and 3 run homers, sprinkle in the occasional grand slam and you have BIG trouble for little Brad.

]]> By: GravediggerHebner http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97836 GravediggerHebner Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:15:28 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/12/read-lidge-is-ready-for-action/#comment-97836 As much as I would love to embrace the "oh my Lidge in that bandbox will get destroyed" theory his career numbers in that bandbox in Philly, while a small sample, are pretty good although he has put alot of guys on base. 10 G, 9 IP, 9 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 4 BB, 11 K, 3 HBP, 3 SV, 0-0 WL As much as I would love to embrace the “oh my Lidge in that bandbox will get destroyed” theory his career numbers in that bandbox in Philly, while a small sample, are pretty good although he has put alot of guys on base.

10 G, 9 IP, 9 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 4 BB, 11 K, 3 HBP, 3 SV, 0-0 WL

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