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		<title>By: 3D</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/13/read-phillies-in-mets-heads/#comment-99402</link>
		<dc:creator>3D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;There will be a flag raising, there’s a highlight video, T shirts, that all comes with the Division Championship-that’s the conclusion I was getting at.&lt;/b&gt;

Whoa.

T-shirts?  Now you&#039;re making a persuasive argument.

OK, I give in dude.  That&#039;s what glory&#039;s all about.  Screen printing on cotton.  I don&#039;t know what I was thinking.

Personally I&#039;d be embarrassed wearing a shirt that represented a 3-and-out in the playoffs.  In fact, my girlfriend at the time bought me a &quot;division champion&quot; 2006 Mets shirt after the Mets choked to the Cardinals, and while it was a thoughtful gesture, I couldn&#039;t bring myself to wear it outside of the house.  I was at game 7.  Too many bad memories.

But then when I think about it some more I realize that we&#039;re talking about Philadelphia.  3 and out = glory.  And T-shirts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>There will be a flag raising, there’s a highlight video, T shirts, that all comes with the Division Championship-that’s the conclusion I was getting at.</b></p>
<p>Whoa.</p>
<p>T-shirts?  Now you&#8217;re making a persuasive argument.</p>
<p>OK, I give in dude.  That&#8217;s what glory&#8217;s all about.  Screen printing on cotton.  I don&#8217;t know what I was thinking.</p>
<p>Personally I&#8217;d be embarrassed wearing a shirt that represented a 3-and-out in the playoffs.  In fact, my girlfriend at the time bought me a &#8220;division champion&#8221; 2006 Mets shirt after the Mets choked to the Cardinals, and while it was a thoughtful gesture, I couldn&#8217;t bring myself to wear it outside of the house.  I was at game 7.  Too many bad memories.</p>
<p>But then when I think about it some more I realize that we&#8217;re talking about Philadelphia.  3 and out = glory.  And T-shirts!</p>
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		<title>By: EastFallowfield</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/13/read-phillies-in-mets-heads/#comment-99179</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will be a flag raising, there&#039;s a highlight video, T shirts, that all comes with the Division Championship-that&#039;s the conclusion I was getting at. 

I believe your team celebrated its 2007 title too.

Like I said, we&#039;re not as spoiled as the Met fans who have won so many more divisions (negative 2?) and World Series (2 vs 1) that we scoff at such things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will be a flag raising, there&#8217;s a highlight video, T shirts, that all comes with the Division Championship-that&#8217;s the conclusion I was getting at. </p>
<p>I believe your team celebrated its 2007 title too.</p>
<p>Like I said, we&#8217;re not as spoiled as the Met fans who have won so many more divisions (negative 2?) and World Series (2 vs 1) that we scoff at such things.</p>
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		<title>By: on0itzjoe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...and it&#039;s worth noting and enjoying for a little while.&quot;

emphasis on little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;and it&#8217;s worth noting and enjoying for a little while.&#8221;</p>
<p>emphasis on little.</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well put, doctor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well put, doctor.</p>
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		<title>By: therev</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: therev</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is obvious that not a single person here read the article that is being talked about including mike nichols(the guy who made this post).   

when the philly writer sielski made that statement about &quot;a similar force drove the mets to trade for santana&quot; he was not talking about the phillies dominance over the mets last year, he was talking about how the mets were stuggling to get over a hump with their team in a similar way that all philly teams can&#039;t get over a hump and win a championship.  please somebody read the article.  and Cerrone, if you are going to allow these guys to start posts on this site it should be a requirement that they read the articles they are referencing and not just picking a random quite in it and making assumptions about them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is obvious that not a single person here read the article that is being talked about including mike nichols(the guy who made this post).   </p>
<p>when the philly writer sielski made that statement about &#8220;a similar force drove the mets to trade for santana&#8221; he was not talking about the phillies dominance over the mets last year, he was talking about how the mets were stuggling to get over a hump with their team in a similar way that all philly teams can&#8217;t get over a hump and win a championship.  please somebody read the article.  and Cerrone, if you are going to allow these guys to start posts on this site it should be a requirement that they read the articles they are referencing and not just picking a random quite in it and making assumptions about them.</p>
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		<title>By: 3D</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/13/read-phillies-in-mets-heads/#comment-98956</link>
		<dc:creator>3D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Yup, we remember you guys talking trash early last season over at beerleaguer. And then gradually fading away as the season reached its glorious conclusion.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

I know it sounds absurd, but you have to put these things into context.

0 playoff wins = &quot;glorious conclusion&quot; in Philadelphia sports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>Yup, we remember you guys talking trash early last season over at beerleaguer. And then gradually fading away as the season reached its glorious conclusion.</b></i></p>
<p>I know it sounds absurd, but you have to put these things into context.</p>
<p>0 playoff wins = &#8220;glorious conclusion&#8221; in Philadelphia sports.</p>
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		<title>By: 3D</title>
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		<dc:creator>3D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;There’s no doubt the Mets got Santana in part to change the subject from the collapse of 07, and, like it or not, the Phillies were half of that story. The Phillies may not concern the fans here (if we’re to believe them) but I’m sure the Mets themselves are not going to overlook them. The way the Phillies/Mets series played out last year you gotta believe the Mets had Phillies in their heads in 07-they kept telling us that they were gonna be fine, they were gonna dance, talk is cheap, etc and then lost how many in a row?&lt;/b&gt;

Lets summarize 2007 baseball season and resulting offseasons.

PART I
The Phillies choke in the playoffs, lose three straight with home field advantage.  They dance with glee in the sun about having beaten the Mets, puff up their chests, etc, ignoring the fact that they were bounced from the playoffs like a Spaldeen.  If the Mets had done what the Phillies did in the playoffs, they&#039;d be torn apart and ridiculed no less harshly than they were for losing the division.

PART II
The Mets choke away the division, to the most hapless organization in MLB history.  They know their fanbase finds this inexcusable.  They react by trading for and signing the best pitcher in baseball.

In summation:
The Phillies, a mediocre failure in 2007, signed Geoff Jenkins and Brad Lidge to &quot;improve&quot; their team.
The Mets, a mediocre failure one game behind the Phillies in 2007, acquire Johan Santana.

Explain to me again why the Mets look bad in this situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>There’s no doubt the Mets got Santana in part to change the subject from the collapse of 07, and, like it or not, the Phillies were half of that story. The Phillies may not concern the fans here (if we’re to believe them) but I’m sure the Mets themselves are not going to overlook them. The way the Phillies/Mets series played out last year you gotta believe the Mets had Phillies in their heads in 07-they kept telling us that they were gonna be fine, they were gonna dance, talk is cheap, etc and then lost how many in a row?</b></p>
<p>Lets summarize 2007 baseball season and resulting offseasons.</p>
<p>PART I<br />
The Phillies choke in the playoffs, lose three straight with home field advantage.  They dance with glee in the sun about having beaten the Mets, puff up their chests, etc, ignoring the fact that they were bounced from the playoffs like a Spaldeen.  If the Mets had done what the Phillies did in the playoffs, they&#8217;d be torn apart and ridiculed no less harshly than they were for losing the division.</p>
<p>PART II<br />
The Mets choke away the division, to the most hapless organization in MLB history.  They know their fanbase finds this inexcusable.  They react by trading for and signing the best pitcher in baseball.</p>
<p>In summation:<br />
The Phillies, a mediocre failure in 2007, signed Geoff Jenkins and Brad Lidge to &#8220;improve&#8221; their team.<br />
The Mets, a mediocre failure one game behind the Phillies in 2007, acquire Johan Santana.</p>
<p>Explain to me again why the Mets look bad in this situation?</p>
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		<title>By: 3D</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;How bad would it be if Santana starts the home opener at Shea against the Phils and gets destroyed? Would there be anything worse than that? Sure, we would all say its a long season, but to have our newly acquired ace face the Phils for the first time since 2007 and get beat, it would be devastating. That first game could set the tone for the season.&lt;/b&gt;

It would be just as important as Jimmy &quot;Douchebag&quot; Rollins kicking the ball all over the field in the Mets&#039; home opener in 2007 turned out to be in the final standings.  I.E., not very.

The papers would have some fun with it for a few days, but it&#039;s a 162 game season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>How bad would it be if Santana starts the home opener at Shea against the Phils and gets destroyed? Would there be anything worse than that? Sure, we would all say its a long season, but to have our newly acquired ace face the Phils for the first time since 2007 and get beat, it would be devastating. That first game could set the tone for the season.</b></p>
<p>It would be just as important as Jimmy &#8220;Douchebag&#8221; Rollins kicking the ball all over the field in the Mets&#8217; home opener in 2007 turned out to be in the final standings.  I.E., not very.</p>
<p>The papers would have some fun with it for a few days, but it&#8217;s a 162 game season.</p>
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		<title>By: 3D</title>
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		<dc:creator>3D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;reason #4: the players were getting so depressed looking at the Phugly Philly women in the stands that they petitioned management to bring Anna Benson in.&lt;/b&gt;

Boy, you ain&#039;t kiddin.  I have been to about 20 Phillies games over the past 4 years and it&#039;s boozed up barhounds with mullets and soccermoms with waist high jeans, as far as the eye can see.  The only time some attractive women come to that park is when the Mets come in and 80% of the stadium is Mets fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>reason #4: the players were getting so depressed looking at the Phugly Philly women in the stands that they petitioned management to bring Anna Benson in.</b></p>
<p>Boy, you ain&#8217;t kiddin.  I have been to about 20 Phillies games over the past 4 years and it&#8217;s boozed up barhounds with mullets and soccermoms with waist high jeans, as far as the eye can see.  The only time some attractive women come to that park is when the Mets come in and 80% of the stadium is Mets fans.</p>
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