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		<title>By: Saltzy23</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/13/watch-citi-field-tour/#comment-98797</link>
		<dc:creator>Saltzy23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that there should have been more seats, but its called hedging your bets.  Teams have good years, teams have bad years.  They just wanna make sure the place is full all the time.  They are also competing with the &#039;newness&#039; of a $1.3 Bil stadium across town.  They are just trying to make sure that if in 10 years we stink tickets are still relatively hard to get...

Getting back to those who think they are gonna get seats, because it just wouldnt be fair if they didnt(wah wah, sorry had to)...again, some simple math for ya...

&#039;07 3.8 Mil....w/o sellouts every Johan game and the worst collapse ever...

&#039;08 with Johan, where 175,000 more seats have been sold than last year at this time, plus the &quot;last year/needing STs to get priority, etc....  Gotta be at least 4 mil, maybe more if they are as good as advertised...

&#039;09...Brand new stadium, good team, NYC, all the stuff everyone knows already....Max stadium capacity of 3.645 Mil....

hmmm....I maybe crazy, but I dont think those with 7 packs since &#039;07 are getting in....maybe if you REALLY REALLY hope though the seat fairy will come....

You&#039;re screwed...fair or not....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that there should have been more seats, but its called hedging your bets.  Teams have good years, teams have bad years.  They just wanna make sure the place is full all the time.  They are also competing with the &#8216;newness&#8217; of a $1.3 Bil stadium across town.  They are just trying to make sure that if in 10 years we stink tickets are still relatively hard to get&#8230;</p>
<p>Getting back to those who think they are gonna get seats, because it just wouldnt be fair if they didnt(wah wah, sorry had to)&#8230;again, some simple math for ya&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8217;07 3.8 Mil&#8230;.w/o sellouts every Johan game and the worst collapse ever&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8217;08 with Johan, where 175,000 more seats have been sold than last year at this time, plus the &#8220;last year/needing STs to get priority, etc&#8230;.  Gotta be at least 4 mil, maybe more if they are as good as advertised&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8217;09&#8230;Brand new stadium, good team, NYC, all the stuff everyone knows already&#8230;.Max stadium capacity of 3.645 Mil&#8230;.</p>
<p>hmmm&#8230;.I maybe crazy, but I dont think those with 7 packs since &#8217;07 are getting in&#8230;.maybe if you REALLY REALLY hope though the seat fairy will come&#8230;.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re screwed&#8230;fair or not&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: stickguy</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/13/watch-citi-field-tour/#comment-98792</link>
		<dc:creator>stickguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>48,000 seats + 2/3K SRO types sounds like a good compromise.  This 42K seats in nonsense.

I am from ou of area, so normally only go to games on weekends (usually Sunday), and I doubt I have been to one in years without at least</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>48,000 seats + 2/3K SRO types sounds like a good compromise.  This 42K seats in nonsense.</p>
<p>I am from ou of area, so normally only go to games on weekends (usually Sunday), and I doubt I have been to one in years without at least</p>
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		<title>By: Emillionaire</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/13/watch-citi-field-tour/#comment-98782</link>
		<dc:creator>Emillionaire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Citi Field looks great and all but 45,000 is not enough for a New York Team. It goes to show you how much Wilpon knows and how ignorant he is, he says that Shea only holds &quot;55,000&quot; try more 57,000 so thats 12,000 less seats in Citi field. I had the sunday package last year and I dont recall a game that drew less than 50,000 people. Think about it he also says we need those extra 10,000 (cough) 12,000 seats only 10 times a year. I can name way more than that. Think about all of the Friday-Sunday games a year not including if we make the playoffs which is way more than 10 times.

57,000 is too much if you want to sell out every home game but somewhere in the 48,000 to 50,000 seats would have been more logical for Citi Field. The Wilpon&#039;s purpose behind this huge seat decrease is simply to jack up the ticket prices to make up for lost revenue and keep the tickets in high demand. Which makes it very hard for the average family or to see a game with a group of friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citi Field looks great and all but 45,000 is not enough for a New York Team. It goes to show you how much Wilpon knows and how ignorant he is, he says that Shea only holds &#8220;55,000&#8243; try more 57,000 so thats 12,000 less seats in Citi field. I had the sunday package last year and I dont recall a game that drew less than 50,000 people. Think about it he also says we need those extra 10,000 (cough) 12,000 seats only 10 times a year. I can name way more than that. Think about all of the Friday-Sunday games a year not including if we make the playoffs which is way more than 10 times.</p>
<p>57,000 is too much if you want to sell out every home game but somewhere in the 48,000 to 50,000 seats would have been more logical for Citi Field. The Wilpon&#8217;s purpose behind this huge seat decrease is simply to jack up the ticket prices to make up for lost revenue and keep the tickets in high demand. Which makes it very hard for the average family or to see a game with a group of friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Saltzy23</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/13/watch-citi-field-tour/#comment-98774</link>
		<dc:creator>Saltzy23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats it.  I cant take it anymore.  I was really trying to not be the bad guy here, cause as far as Im concerned were all on the same team, but after 3 days of wishful thinking, complaining and just complete lack of understandiing the way that capitalism, supply and demand, and the organizations gaul to want to maximize their profits work I have to step in and give my 2 cents.  I dont even care if no one reads this post.

First off, I feel for those of you that have had accounts for a while that may get left out.  I do.  If I was the one making the decisions it would have been done dirrerently.  Now....back to REALITY....A. The Mets drew 3.8 Mil last year.  Thats an avg of 47,000 per game.  So, these people that are saying the Mets have 20,000 season ticket holders are nuts.  I really dont think that they had an avg walkup/partial plan of 27,000 per game.  Secondly, go to Mets.com and look at whats left as far as ST&#039;s.  Only Mezz box and UD box, meaning all Field Level, Loge, Mezz Res, and UD Res are gone.  Slightly more than 20,000.  Moving on, UD reserved are sold out, meaning it may have been a marketing scheme, but it worked, cause you cant get cheap season tickets anymore.  The way these things work is all the expensive seats and cheap seats go 1st and it fills inward.  Now, MLB teams are requied to sell X amount of individual tickets per game.  Assuming they have 30,000 ST holders(a more realistic number), that would leave about 15,000 seats per game.  Take away the individual seats and youre left with a few seats that I think will be offered to people that have had partial plans for a long time.  Thats it. Thats all.  

As far as the greed/business/money aspect....WAKE UP....it IS a business.  Its entertainment.  Pay UP...Going to games is not some sort of right.  I think its unfair Ferrari charges so much.  I REALLY REALLY want one!...How dare they cater to those with money!....People that dont make $1m/yr like fast cars too!....Those greedy bastards....

Ok Im done....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats it.  I cant take it anymore.  I was really trying to not be the bad guy here, cause as far as Im concerned were all on the same team, but after 3 days of wishful thinking, complaining and just complete lack of understandiing the way that capitalism, supply and demand, and the organizations gaul to want to maximize their profits work I have to step in and give my 2 cents.  I dont even care if no one reads this post.</p>
<p>First off, I feel for those of you that have had accounts for a while that may get left out.  I do.  If I was the one making the decisions it would have been done dirrerently.  Now&#8230;.back to REALITY&#8230;.A. The Mets drew 3.8 Mil last year.  Thats an avg of 47,000 per game.  So, these people that are saying the Mets have 20,000 season ticket holders are nuts.  I really dont think that they had an avg walkup/partial plan of 27,000 per game.  Secondly, go to Mets.com and look at whats left as far as ST&#8217;s.  Only Mezz box and UD box, meaning all Field Level, Loge, Mezz Res, and UD Res are gone.  Slightly more than 20,000.  Moving on, UD reserved are sold out, meaning it may have been a marketing scheme, but it worked, cause you cant get cheap season tickets anymore.  The way these things work is all the expensive seats and cheap seats go 1st and it fills inward.  Now, MLB teams are requied to sell X amount of individual tickets per game.  Assuming they have 30,000 ST holders(a more realistic number), that would leave about 15,000 seats per game.  Take away the individual seats and youre left with a few seats that I think will be offered to people that have had partial plans for a long time.  Thats it. Thats all.  </p>
<p>As far as the greed/business/money aspect&#8230;.WAKE UP&#8230;.it IS a business.  Its entertainment.  Pay UP&#8230;Going to games is not some sort of right.  I think its unfair Ferrari charges so much.  I REALLY REALLY want one!&#8230;How dare they cater to those with money!&#8230;.People that dont make $1m/yr like fast cars too!&#8230;.Those greedy bastards&#8230;.</p>
<p>Ok Im done&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: debbiemet</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/13/watch-citi-field-tour/#comment-98749</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,  gipper913 - my guess is you are either a scalper or one of those fair-weather friends who is all over the team and manager and management when they start losing a few games.  Plus, to speak the way you do - you must have a pretty good income. 
Some of us are just regular folk, working or barely working who can&#039;t afford to shell out 2 or 3 times more than regular ticket price; are we not good enough to enjoy a live game?  

Call me naive, but the owners have already made or soon will make the cost of CitiPark back - with the giant tax breaks from the city, the 20% ticket increase this year and the probably 30% additional increase next year, the windfall they&#039;ll take in from auctioning to the (very) highest bidder ever possible bit of Shea Stradium memorabia, etc.  What has happened to this world?  Profit, OK but why the GREED?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,  gipper913 &#8211; my guess is you are either a scalper or one of those fair-weather friends who is all over the team and manager and management when they start losing a few games.  Plus, to speak the way you do &#8211; you must have a pretty good income.<br />
Some of us are just regular folk, working or barely working who can&#8217;t afford to shell out 2 or 3 times more than regular ticket price; are we not good enough to enjoy a live game?  </p>
<p>Call me naive, but the owners have already made or soon will make the cost of CitiPark back &#8211; with the giant tax breaks from the city, the 20% ticket increase this year and the probably 30% additional increase next year, the windfall they&#8217;ll take in from auctioning to the (very) highest bidder ever possible bit of Shea Stradium memorabia, etc.  What has happened to this world?  Profit, OK but why the GREED?</p>
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		<title>By: debbiemet</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  Plus I think he is wrong - I went to all the weekend games last year and attendance was always 40,000 PLUS.  

Such shortsightedness, and my fear is the little guys like me who can only afford to sit in Mezz Res or Upper Level (and frankly, I can&#039;t afford too many of those anymore, either!) will be the ones &quot;left out in the cold.&quot;

Also, their big push is to make it into the playoffs.World Series, right?  What were they thinking when they eliminated those 10,000 seats!  I guess it&#039;s more important that they sell a few tickets at enormous profit than have too many moderately priced seats for the &quot;riff-raff,&quot; you know, those of us who sat in near empty stadiums of 7,000 attendance in the 70&#039;s, the ones who kept believing and supporting the team in the lean times, the ones who&#039;ve ALWAYS been with the Mets, win or lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  Plus I think he is wrong &#8211; I went to all the weekend games last year and attendance was always 40,000 PLUS.  </p>
<p>Such shortsightedness, and my fear is the little guys like me who can only afford to sit in Mezz Res or Upper Level (and frankly, I can&#8217;t afford too many of those anymore, either!) will be the ones &#8220;left out in the cold.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, their big push is to make it into the playoffs.World Series, right?  What were they thinking when they eliminated those 10,000 seats!  I guess it&#8217;s more important that they sell a few tickets at enormous profit than have too many moderately priced seats for the &#8220;riff-raff,&#8221; you know, those of us who sat in near empty stadiums of 7,000 attendance in the 70&#8242;s, the ones who kept believing and supporting the team in the lean times, the ones who&#8217;ve ALWAYS been with the Mets, win or lose.</p>
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		<title>By: gipper913</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon, man - can;t blame them for raising demand.  It is a business.  Frankly,  think it looks better on TV tto have every seat or nearly every seat occupied han the 90% of the time whe there are seas of empty seats.

As for not getting to see Johan at Citi - that&#039;s is why God invented scalpers, brokers, and StubHub!  Where there is a will, there is always a way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon, man &#8211; can;t blame them for raising demand.  It is a business.  Frankly,  think it looks better on TV tto have every seat or nearly every seat occupied han the 90% of the time whe there are seas of empty seats.</p>
<p>As for not getting to see Johan at Citi &#8211; that&#8217;s is why God invented scalpers, brokers, and StubHub!  Where there is a will, there is always a way.</p>
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		<title>By: Dykstra4</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We only needed those extra 10,000 seats maybe 10 times a year&quot;...yeah, that&#039;s only 100,000 people who won&#039;t get to see a game in Citifield until the last year of Johan&#039;s contract</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We only needed those extra 10,000 seats maybe 10 times a year&#8221;&#8230;yeah, that&#8217;s only 100,000 people who won&#8217;t get to see a game in Citifield until the last year of Johan&#8217;s contract</p>
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