You would not be saying that is this were the early to mid 90s when they did not draw over 2 million for 6 straight years. It’s because they are good now. When they stink some time in the future and initial stadium draw has worn off, 18,000 on a Tuesday night won’t seem as barren as it does in Shea. Also, last year was the first year ever that the Mets drew more than they could hold if they sell out every game in a season at CitiField. This does not include standing room and I don’t know if luxury boxes are included in the general seating capacity. Heck, they’ve only drawn 3 million 4 years in their history. So, it may seem small but it’s not being built for the next 5 years.

CitiField is not too small. Shea had a significant number of empty seats last season during 60-75% of the games.

45,000 * 81 = 3.6 million

Friday.

And regular tickets aren’t even on sale yet. crazy.

The drawing is today and the winners will be announced on Friday February 22.

At this time last year, ticket sales had eclipsed 1.75 million. By the time single game tickets went on sale last season, ticket sales had eclipsed 2.0 million. A large percentage of that increase is likely accounted for by sales of Opening Day, the 3 Yankees games as well as seven packs purchased by those who didn’t win the ticket lottery.

Assuming a similar increase this year, the Mets will have sold approximately 2.3 million tickets by the time single game tickets go on sale. This total equals 28,400 full season equivalents - 2,300,000 divided by 81 games (consisting of full-season ticket holders, partial plan holders, seven pack holders).

mets.com click Tickets on top right. It’s called Mets Ticket Marketplace. It’s exactly what you’ve just described.

(Crying and pleading)…..Can the people who still think ANY seats next year will be readily available PLEASE defend that argument again?….please….

I will restate….if you dont have season tickets this year(or maybe a long standing partial account) you WILL NOT see this team play for less that 2x face after this season for a LOOOONG time….Again….(outside of the few individual tickets per game that they HAVE to sell)all of the stadium will be ST’s and a few partials….there no longer are the 10,000 ‘open’ seats to sell for every game(including Yankees, OD, weekend, whatever)..This is the reason why most people never had an issue ever getting into Shea…..the only tickets availble on the secondary market in ‘09 will be the account holders selling online(mostly for profit) and the scalpers who bought the individual tickets. The 10,000 extra seats filled alot of the demand for “modest/day of” sellouts(non OD, Yankees games), so a large percentage of the demand was swallowed up.

My point. Shea could hold account holders, partials and had at least 25,000 extra seats ‘open’ for any game. They were either sold via lottery, or walk up. The market of available tickets were account holders selling seats, plus ALL the seats at face value still available through the team at face value. Starting next year the market will be account holders(who will go or give tickets to people they know for most games), plus a few individual tickets that may or may not find their way onto the secondary market. Throw in the “new stadium” aspect(as in they arent just ripping 10,000 seats out of Shea. Its a brand new stadium that MANY people are gonna want to see), and the bottom line is that even for Tuesday games against the Nats there just arent gonna be any seats floating around….whatever, you’ll all see….

FYI–

Phillies tickets go on sale this Thursday @ 7:30 AM on Phillies.com

I think you’re right on both counts. First off, a lot of people saying they weren’t coming out to Shea this year were probably lying, that’s probably true. But you also have to consider that the team is better now, so there’s all sorts of “fans” coming out of the woodwork to cheer for “their” team. It’s the same thing that happened to the Yankees when they started playing better in the mid-90s.

For the record, I am one of those fans that said I wouldn’t be able to get out to Shea as often this year because of the prices. I usually go to 5-10 games a year, Opening Day being one of them, but this year that’s just not a possiblit, barring any free tickets coming my way. I simply can’t afford it. That being said, I already have plans for OD: Instead of going to the game, my buddies and I will be watching at home, grilling up burgers and dogs, saving the $15 for parking, if you can get it, the $7.25 for each beer, and $4.50 for each hot dog. It’s not Shea, but it’s a hell of a lot cheaper.

Exactly…great point.

I bought tickets today for July 4 Mets v. Phillies at CBP. Since I bought tickets last year I got an email that there was a pre-sale today. Got great seats, field level, third base side. If anyone bought Phillies tickets last year, check your email, you probably got a pre-sale chance too!

Sigh….AGAIN….going with your numbers….24,000 ST’s…..all the partial plans(however many, say 10,000 for each game) leaves 10,000 seats per game WITH NO MORE AVAILABLE SEATS…The open seats at Shea for any game are unaccounted for, even for Yanks games. (Ex. A lot of people buy Yanks games just to sell) Where are these seats coming from next year? There are no more ‘open’ seats. Only the few individual seats and whatever seats are made available by the account holders with the tickets. In less people decide they dont want to profit on their tickets(pretty unlikely) there just wont be a huge amount of tickets on the secondary market. In other words….very VERY few seats will be availble for ANY given game….supply-low, demand high…..yup, Im wrong….plenty of seats should be around for face….