Comments on: Read: Is it a Rivalry Yet http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:15:16 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: mwdrac http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103172 mwdrac Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:29:13 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103172 Phils fan here. Whether or not you can really call this a rivalry is a matter of personal interpretation, but either way, it's definitely shaping up to be one of the more interesting storylines of the season. It's also nice to see some national recognition for the teams--something that has certainly been missing in recent years. Look at that last 3-game series in September last year--absolutely CRUCIAL series for both teams--and what did Fox and ESPN show that weekend? Obviously, they showed every friggin game of a boring series between the only two MLB teams they know exist, that couldn't have had any outcome on the shape of the AL playoffs. Yeesh. Phils fan here.

Whether or not you can really call this a rivalry is a matter of personal interpretation, but either way, it’s definitely shaping up to be one of the more interesting storylines of the season.

It’s also nice to see some national recognition for the teams–something that has certainly been missing in recent years.

Look at that last 3-game series in September last year–absolutely CRUCIAL series for both teams–and what did Fox and ESPN show that weekend? Obviously, they showed every friggin game of a boring series between the only two MLB teams they know exist, that couldn’t have had any outcome on the shape of the AL playoffs. Yeesh.

]]> By: jamie http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103166 jamie Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:19:08 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103166 dammit, I replied to the above and it was lost. stupid roadrunner... essentially: yes, also rans like you, and yes, we were lucky in 06 in addition to being much better than your team dammit, I replied to the above and it was lost. stupid roadrunner…

essentially: yes, also rans like you, and yes, we were lucky in 06 in addition to being much better than your team

]]> By: jamie http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103161 jamie Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:14:34 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103161 so what, now you're a braves troll? so what, now you’re a braves troll?

]]> By: jamie http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103154 jamie Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:08:47 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103154 this is what makes it hard to take you seriously: I'm not being disingenuous, and if I'm dissing the phils, it's a byproduct of truth. Yes, we were lucky in 06 (until the cards came, of course), but we also much better than your team. Of course the Braves weren't scared of us; we never beat them, why should they be? And that's a great analogy for our two teams, if you ignore the fact that the braves won for a decade, and your team was the benificiary of our bad play and bad luck. And please don't cry about injuries, we had our share. You keep coming back to this, as if we don't acknowledge the phils' tough play against us. We do, I do, but your willfully obtuse refusal to acknowledge that a bouncing baseball or an ump's bad mood had as much to do with it as anything else is ridiculous. Obviously, we were close in talent. Two flawed, mediocre teams, that both won shite in the end. and all that said, Mets will win the East in 08. this is what makes it hard to take you seriously: I’m not being disingenuous, and if I’m dissing the phils, it’s a byproduct of truth. Yes, we were lucky in 06 (until the cards came, of course), but we also much better than your team. Of course the Braves weren’t scared of us; we never beat them, why should they be? And that’s a great analogy for our two teams, if you ignore the fact that the braves won for a decade, and your team was the benificiary of our bad play and bad luck. And please don’t cry about injuries, we had our share.

You keep coming back to this, as if we don’t acknowledge the phils’ tough play against us. We do, I do, but your willfully obtuse refusal to acknowledge that a bouncing baseball or an ump’s bad mood had as much to do with it as anything else is ridiculous.

Obviously, we were close in talent. Two flawed, mediocre teams, that both won shite in the end.

and all that said, Mets will win the East in 08.

]]> By: EastFallowfield http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103143 EastFallowfield Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:46:25 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103143 Right. When you finish anywhere from 3rd to last most seasons, it doesn't matter who you consider your rival-you're just also rans. 2001 Mets-3rd 2002 Mets-last 2003 Mets-last again 2004 Mets-fourth 2005 Mets-fourth Yeah, Braves were scared of you those seasons. Right.

When you finish anywhere from 3rd to last most seasons, it doesn’t matter who you consider your rival-you’re just also rans.

2001 Mets-3rd

2002 Mets-last

2003 Mets-last again

2004 Mets-fourth

2005 Mets-fourth

Yeah, Braves were scared of you those seasons.

]]> By: EastFallowfield http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103141 EastFallowfield Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:43:31 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103141 Mets were lucky in 06? I know they were lucky several times in 07.. Lucky the Phils got off to a slow start. Lucky they got a rainout that just happened to set up a series in Philly where the Mets had their rotation set up and the Phils started several 8th/9th starters Lucky the Phils lost 4 games in the last 2 weeks to give the Mets a chance on the last day of the season Lucky the Phils lost 5 of the 6 starting pitchers they thought they would need at the start of the season Mets were lucky in 06?

I know they were lucky several times in 07..

Lucky the Phils got off to a slow start.

Lucky they got a rainout that just happened to set up a series in Philly where the Mets had their rotation set up and the Phils started several 8th/9th starters

Lucky the Phils lost 4 games in the last 2 weeks to give the Mets a chance on the last day of the season

Lucky the Phils lost 5 of the 6 starting pitchers they thought they would need at the start of the season

]]> By: jamie http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103140 jamie Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:43:01 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103140 but wait, I should try to help you understand: it doesn't matter what the phills did, because to many of us, if we didn't beat the braves, then we weren't in the conversation anyway. The Braves were the cream of the crop, number one. After that, who really cares? congratulations on being second place more often than us, and for making the playoffs once, like us. Hey, you're almost like us! Except for being less improved from last year, when we both won the same amount of playoff games, of course. but wait, I should try to help you understand: it doesn’t matter what the phills did, because to many of us, if we didn’t beat the braves, then we weren’t in the conversation anyway. The Braves were the cream of the crop, number one. After that, who really cares? congratulations on being second place more often than us, and for making the playoffs once, like us. Hey, you’re almost like us! Except for being less improved from last year, when we both won the same amount of playoff games, of course.

]]> By: jamie http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103135 jamie Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:33:52 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103135 no, we all jumped on board in 06, that's why we don't understand basic tenets of baseball, like luck and that a bandbox is a tide that lifts all boats. no, we all jumped on board in 06, that’s why we don’t understand basic tenets of baseball, like luck and that a bandbox is a tide that lifts all boats.

]]> By: EastFallowfield http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103094 EastFallowfield Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:58:43 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103094 Of course, the Mets have finished ahead of the Phillies exactly once in the last 7 seasons. Every opinion here seems based on the Mets 2006 season-were any of you fans before that bandwagon year? Of course, the Mets have finished ahead of the Phillies exactly once in the last 7 seasons. Every opinion here seems based on the Mets 2006 season-were any of you fans before that bandwagon year?

]]> By: jamie http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103052 jamie Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:14:54 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/22/read-is-it-a-rivalry-yet/#comment-103052 I honestly have never even considered philly at all until last year, and even then didn't take them seriously until the last weekend of the season. It's been all about the braves. I thought philly was cute, like "aww, they think they matter!" like I said above, I'm definitely up for those games this year more than ever, but I'll always have an eye on the braves. I honestly have never even considered philly at all until last year, and even then didn’t take them seriously until the last weekend of the season. It’s been all about the braves. I thought philly was cute, like “aww, they think they matter!”

like I said above, I’m definitely up for those games this year more than ever, but I’ll always have an eye on the braves.

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