Comments on: Read: Noble’s Latest Mailbag http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: WrightOn http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104553 WrightOn Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:50:53 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104553 I for one am actually pretty curious as to what Darkie has to say on this one. He's been so adamant against putting Duque in the pen, and now that there's a reason for the argument, there's no counterpoint. I haven't formed an opinion one way or another yet (I lean towards a starting Duque) but here's the forum for it, instead of previous times when Darkie more or less just called Matt out again and again. I for one am actually pretty curious as to what Darkie has to say on this one. He’s been so adamant against putting Duque in the pen, and now that there’s a reason for the argument, there’s no counterpoint. I haven’t formed an opinion one way or another yet (I lean towards a starting Duque) but here’s the forum for it, instead of previous times when Darkie more or less just called Matt out again and again.

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104176 therealsince86 Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:01:00 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104176 Why not just take the draft picks for him and try and win the WS? Why not just take the draft picks for him and try and win the WS?

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104175 therealsince86 Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:59:17 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104175 This is just media junk. We need something to talk about. I love Matt but he has been doing the same thing. Elduque has said he will be healthy by opening day and I believe him. He does not have to pitch until mid-April at the earliest. We will get about 20 starts out of him and about 15 out of Pelfrey. That will be effective enough. If in September Elduque wants to go to the pen to rest up for the playoffs again, so be it. Our biggest problem is what if Elduque and Pedro go out at the same time? Armas Jr and Vargas. I would not mind seeing the Mets go after another AAA veteran. This is just media junk. We need something to talk about. I love Matt but he has been doing the same thing.
Elduque has said he will be healthy by opening day and I believe him. He does not have to pitch until mid-April at the earliest. We will get about 20 starts out of him and about 15 out of Pelfrey. That will be effective enough. If in September Elduque wants to go to the pen to rest up for the playoffs again, so be it.
Our biggest problem is what if Elduque and Pedro go out at the same time? Armas Jr and Vargas. I would not mind seeing the Mets go after another AAA veteran.

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104173 therealsince86 Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:48:45 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104173 Besides, why shouldn't Elduque start if healthy? It's not like he will be magically healthy warming up in the bullpen all year. If he is going to get injured it won't matter if he is a reliever or starter. Right now the Mets view him as the #5 until June/July when he gets injured. At that point Pelfrey should be ready. Besides, why shouldn’t Elduque start if healthy? It’s not like he will be magically healthy warming up in the bullpen all year. If he is going to get injured it won’t matter if he is a reliever or starter. Right now the Mets view him as the #5 until June/July when he gets injured. At that point Pelfrey should be ready.

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104170 therealsince86 Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:44:32 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104170 You are talking about a difference of about 2 million at the most. It will be something like 2/24. You are talking about a difference of about 2 million at the most. It will be something like 2/24.

]]> By: gowrightgo http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104167 gowrightgo Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:20:33 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104167 I tend to agree but I would use Perez as the guy rather than Duque because I think Perez will be tough to resign and because I think Perez will get more in the market for him as a rental when compared to Duque. This assumes 2 things. 1) Mets have spoken with Boras and get a strong sense he is both going to market and he is looking to get every last dollar...a pretty good bet. 2) Pelfrey is either contributing at the ML level already or he is pretty dominant in the minors and can be brought in and expected to be a solid #5 guy. I realize it is a bit out there to suggest that a good Perez can be removed mid season for prospects when we are fighting for the division. But I believe it is the best course of action long term and will be disruptive but perhaps not too disruptive during the season I tend to agree but I would use Perez as the guy rather than Duque because I think Perez will be tough to resign and because I think Perez will get more in the market for him as a rental when compared to Duque.

This assumes 2 things.

1) Mets have spoken with Boras and get a strong sense he is both going to market and he is looking to get every last dollar…a pretty good bet.

2) Pelfrey is either contributing at the ML level already or he is pretty dominant in the minors and can be brought in and expected to be a solid #5 guy.

I realize it is a bit out there to suggest that a good Perez can be removed mid season for prospects when we are fighting for the division. But I believe it is the best course of action long term and will be disruptive but perhaps not too disruptive during the season

]]> By: gowrightgo http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104166 gowrightgo Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:15:37 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104166 Darkstar is right though. Hitting 90 mph on the first outing of ST is akin to be around 95- 96 in mid May. The velocity takes all pitchers time to come. that is part of why P and C start a week earlier than all others at ST because they need the time to open the arm back up and let it out to reach its max Darkstar is right though. Hitting 90 mph on the first outing of ST is akin to be around 95- 96 in mid May. The velocity takes all pitchers time to come. that is part of why P and C start a week earlier than all others at ST because they need the time to open the arm back up and let it out to reach its max

]]> By: bayridgehodges http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104160 bayridgehodges Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:22:11 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104160 Problem with this whole argument is that it's a moot point. Everyone from Peterson to Willie to Wilpon has shown us time and time again that Heilman in the rotation just ain't happening. Period. And I think it's better that way. We know Heilman is solid in relief, we know Duque's a good starter, why mix it up just for kicks? But I just beat my own dead horse by contributing to that moot point.... Problem with this whole argument is that it’s a moot point. Everyone from Peterson to Willie to Wilpon has shown us time and time again that Heilman in the rotation just ain’t happening. Period. And I think it’s better that way. We know Heilman is solid in relief, we know Duque’s a good starter, why mix it up just for kicks? But I just beat my own dead horse by contributing to that moot point….

]]> By: bayridgehodges http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104159 bayridgehodges Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:19:17 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104159 That's the catch here. You figure they have to chase a big 1B bat, Teixeira being the obvious option, though I wouldn't be surprised to see ATL extend him. That’s the catch here. You figure they have to chase a big 1B bat, Teixeira being the obvious option, though I wouldn’t be surprised to see ATL extend him.

]]> By: bayridgehodges http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104158 bayridgehodges Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:18:01 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/25/read-nobles-latest-mailbag-4/#comment-104158 I don't think Pelfrey's garbage at all. Matter of fact, I was thrilled he didn't go to Minny for Johan, but I echo the sentiments of others. Right now Duque is clearly the 5th best SP we have, maybe better on some days. That said, I don't think we've seen nearly enough of Pelfrey to determine what his ceiling is. There are a lot of very successful SP's out there who had comparable is not worse track records at Pelf's age than he does now, and a lot of pitching prospects with nice potential ruined by MLB exposure too long, too early. Let him grow. I don’t think Pelfrey’s garbage at all. Matter of fact, I was thrilled he didn’t go to Minny for Johan, but I echo the sentiments of others. Right now Duque is clearly the 5th best SP we have, maybe better on some days. That said, I don’t think we’ve seen nearly enough of Pelfrey to determine what his ceiling is. There are a lot of very successful SP’s out there who had comparable is not worse track records at Pelf’s age than he does now, and a lot of pitching prospects with nice potential ruined by MLB exposure too long, too early. Let him grow.

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