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pmLinks: El Duque, Wiffle Ball and Kazmir
By Matthew Cerrone - Feb 26, 2008 2:33 pm

In a post to his blog for the Star-Ledger, Jeremy Cothran recaps this morning’s bullpen sessions by Pedro Martinez and Orlando Hernandez, who, according to Cothran, is throwing at ‘Wiffle Ball speed.’

Speaking of pitchers, according to the Associated Press, Scott Kazmir missed a scheduled intrasquad game today after feeling discomfort in his elbow on his final warmup pitch.

Lastly, at A Citizen’s Bloga Phillies blog, Mike explains why the Mets are not the team to beat.

60 Responses to “pmLinks: El Duque, Wiffle Ball and Kazmir”

  1. CitizenSnips says:

    “Do you really feel comfortable, Mets fans, with Willie Randolph handing the ball to John Maine on the last game of the season?”

    If he pitched the same way he did the second to last game of the season, hell yes. This guy’s arguments don’t really seem to have any merit. And who is he to talk about pitching? Is anyone on the Phillies reliable passed Hamels?

    • ravin108 says:

      Thats why we like you Matt. Your opinions are arguments make sense.

    • brapp says:

      I agree 110 percent, hamels and maybe myers are good pitchers but after that your talking about a team that probably has 3 number 5 starters and a leaky pen. There line up is terrific but so is the mets. Its gonna be fun beating on the phillies this year.

    • EastFallowfield says:

      I do wonder why Maine’s August and September aren’t discussed much here. Even with the awesome start on the next to the last day of the Mets season, his ERAs in those months were 6.32 and 5.93, with a 3-5 won/loss.

      Is that the real Maine or we supposed to excuse those months for some reason?

      • darkstar73 says:

        so wait, you’re taking 2 months over the entire rest of the season? Why would you say 2 months is the “real” Maine, when that’s on the smaller side of the sample size? Overly pessimistic are we? Either way, if you watched the games, everyone saw Maine was tired, he had never thrown that many innings before.

        • EastFallowfield says:

          I guess he started getting tired in May then, as his ERA that month was almost as bad as Aug/Sept, 4.50.

          2 months is a pretty fair chunk of a season. I’m not saying it’s the real him, but you could see how someone not so Metscentric could look at those months and not see the same level of greatness seen through Mets’ point of view.

  2. Mister Koo says:

    I love how these Philly analysts look at Santana as only having an impact on the days he pitches. There’s more to it than that. His presence pushes everyone back a slot, and thus eliminates the the garbage #5 spot we had to deal with last year (Lawrence, Park, Humber, etc). His impact will be felt twice every five days, not just once.

    • mikey_FF says:

      A Citizen’s Blog … that’s a comedy blog, right?? I can’t stop laughing at what I just read!! BWAAhaahahahaaaaa

      • brapp says:

        It was like being at a phillies game reading citizens blog, there were met fans everywhere. Show some love phillies fans your blogs and your team can use it.

        • EastFallowfield says:

          I think from reading those ‘comments’ that Metsblog officially has now lost any credibility saying that fans of teams other than the Mets shouldn’t post here.

        • gipper913 says:

          Funny, I don’t recall Matt ever saying such a thing.

          In fact, Metsblo gdoes a feature before almost every series where it gets the input from a major blogger for the opposing team.

        • EastFallowfield says:

          Nah, it’s just the commenters here who get mad every once in a while, acting as if their fanbase is troll-free.

        • brapp says:

          Any fan of any team in any city can post anything they want. Thats what these blogs are all about. No one ever said only met fans can blog here. Its all in fun but some people seem to take it to heart. Lighten up.

        • EastFallowfield says:

          Ok, I’ll quote you the next time one of your brethren gets the vapors over having outsiders here.

        • brapp says:

          Those people are idiots.

  3. SheaVendor says:

    I like how he said that Santana replacing Glavine, although an upgrade, won’t really make an impact. Does this guy actually watch baseball??

    • Mister Koo says:

      Not even that, he doesn’t even have his facts right. Pedro replaced Glavine. Santana is replacing the #5 starter. Or vice versa, but the point is they forget that Pedro pitched only 28 innings last year..

  4. Hanes4u says:

    I didn’t know they had computers and internet in Philadelphia..let alone a blog website!

    Nicely done Philly..way to get out of the dark ages, if only your fans would follow suit. If only.

    • BillyGoat says:

      this coming from the guy who, per his handle, still rocks tighty whities……

      • Hanes4u says:

        I resent that – Hanes makes a variety of products, ranging from Boxer briefs to “tighty whities”.

        My guess is that you wear the latter. No worries..so does my 85 year old grandpa..and he pee’s his pants like miles davis.

  5. brgnsoccer says:

    Please Matt… no more about Kazmir… especially if it’s not something solid and tested…

  6. SheaVendor says:

    All the comments on there from Mets fans are hysterical!!

  7. SheaVendor says:

    This comment from a Braves fan on that Phillies blog is pretty funny…

    “I am a Braves fan, and what do the Phillies think they have any buisness in this convo? Last year was a fluke the NL East is Braves vs. Mets …..the Phillies are just a urinal for us to piss on, get back in your toilets Phillies fans!”

    # posted by Anonymous : Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:51:00 PM

  8. shea_guevara says:

    I expect Phillies fans to downplay the Santana acquisition. What are they supposed to say, “We’re doomed!”? If the guy truly wants to believe Santana will not have a big impact, let him.

    But you guys above are correct: Santana and Pedro are collectively replacing the increasingly non-effective Glavine and the crap-tacular #5 spot.

    I think all you need to know about Santana’s impact is this: from 2003-07 (when Santana was a full-time starter), the Twins were at or near the bottom of nearly every offensive category in the American League. Not just middle of the road, or below average. At or near the bottom.

    And yet, they were still a perpetual contender and won multiple division titles. He was not the only reason for that (you have to credit guys like Joe Nathan, certainly), but he was far and away the biggest reason.

  9. FBones24 says:

    The best part about that blog is that 90% of the responses are probably from people from Metsblog. I love it.

  10. Ryan Synagogue says:

    Ha! Kazmir is hurting. Somewhere Jim Duquette is laughing while Victor Zambrano prepares to pitch the greatest year of his career.

    Man it sure is great not having the name of Scott Kazmir not even sting anymore. We got our lefty ace, and he’s the best in baseball.

    • Hanes4u says:

      Eh i dunno about it not stinging anymore..imagine if we had him too?

      then again..we argueably wouldnt have beltran, delgado, pedro, alou, maine, perez, church, castillo, and our entire bench..cause maybe if duquette doesn’t make that trade, he doesn’t get fired..?

      Who knows. But the sting is lessened by the aquisition of Johan, but..still..we let Kazmir slip through our grasp..that will never stop hurting.

    • red high tops and a mets cap worn backwards says:

      omg, your username. hahahaha

  11. diehard says:

    You gotta check out that blog from the phillie fan (A Citizens Blog) just bec every comment is Met fans beating up on the shmuck that wrote that ridiculous blog!! ARE WE PUMPED FOR BASEBALL OR WHAT?!?!?!

  12. pkay23 says:

    The Phillies blog just made my afternoon! All of the Mets fans tore that up and I love it! If you haven’t read it yet PLEASE do yourself a favor and go read it…
    My favorite was the Braves fan

  13. cousinrk says:

    I don’t mind someone believing in the Phils but presented weak arguments that can be debunked so easily…well it shows how Phily is sorely in need of some legit journalists.

    If you were Willie would you be confident in John Maine starting your last game?? Does this guy watch baseball?? The same John Maine who shut down the Cards in game 6 of NLCS, won 15 games last year and in the second to last game almost pitched a no hitter all at age 26?? Come on dude.

    He brought up the 02 Mets as history. HUH!!! What does that have to do with this team. Talk about begging and crawling and grasping for straws. I just figured out where Wallace Matthews shoudl be writing, a Philly paper. He fits in perfectly.

  14. Mr. Mets Butler says:

    Oh guys…all of you that posted on that blog just tore his SH*T up!! I was falling off my chair from laughing so hard. ROTLMAO!!! :>)

  15. garycarter says:

    While I certainly enjoyed the response from the Braves fan, this one was my favorite:

    “Everyone, Met and Phillie fan alike, is now dumber for reading this. No where, in your incoherent rambling did you approach a clear and rational throught. I award you no points.

    Only once, did you post a somewhat intelligent throught. You are correct, there are 162 games to play.

    Nice!”

    Nibb High Football Rules!

    • mikey_FF says:

      This one is my favorite:

      “Did… did you just compare Johan Santana to Roberto Alomar, Mo Vaughn and Jeremy Burnitz?

      Go. Go sit in the corner. Take a time-out.”

  16. Yes.. yes I do.. he won 15 games last season. Do you feel comfortable giving the ball to Adam Eaton? or Kris Benson

    I love Met fans.

  17. Mr. Mets Butler says:

    I especially love the Cole Hamels is a POSSE(figure it out) post….LOL

    • Oh my god. This is amazing

      Brett Myers is a criminal

      Jimmy Rollins is a criminal

      Pat Burrell is a moron

      Tom Gordon…lol

      Charlie Manuel could very well be retarded

      You guys couldnt even get Mike Lowell to play for you for god sakes….

      By the way, your center fielder is Shane Victorino……which is a bad thing…..ok then, have fun competing with the Nationals

      • BillyGoat says:

        Well said, Tina….your baseball acumen is off the charts….im gonna bite my tongue and refrain from making a Keith Hernandez style joke….keep up the great work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • LOL. I can’t take credit for those amazing comments, just from the citizens blog haha

          Oh, and I will keep up..the good work. lol.

        • gipper913 says:

          Ummm…Tina was quoting the posts on the Philthy blog site, not her thoughts.

          If you want to read truly poor baseball acumen, just check out the guy’s main post on the blog in question. I don’t know whether to be more embarassed for the guy as a baseball fan or as a fellow attorney.

        • BillyGoat says:

          my bad, gipper…maybe the mets will win one for ya this season

          regardless of WHO made the comments, theyre really fantastic…Jimmy Rollins is a criminal….burrell a moron…so clever and LOLtastic

          as i mention below, i agree that Santana doesn’t replace glavine and pedro is presumably healthy and although Maine trailed off (save his last start) in the 2nd half, theres no reason not to be confident with him on the hill….but those comments are childish and speak volumes about the deep seeded pain that you guys are still feeling

        • gipper913 says:

          C’mon, man…you cannot take the online scribblings of some preteen/teenage Mets fans as represtentative of a fanbase that numbers in the millions.

          I know it hurts to have to live in that “city” of yours…but you really must stop projecting your pain and bitterness.

          PS: Isn’t the billy goat thing a Cubbies issue?

    • BillyGoat says:

      It’s amazing how angry Met fans are…..relax …deep breaths….i come on guys, lets go s#@$ on some dude for saying the phils have a CHANCE to win the division again….its really pathetic…..what on earth could make you so mad???? i think i know…but shhhhhH! we dont talk about it in here anymore cause you know, we’re “moving forward”

      • Roach2 says:

        I think you, mr. phils fan, have distorted the situation (shocking, i know).

        The anger and vitriol tossed at this guy (if you can call it that), is predicated on his claims and reasons why the mets are not a scary team.

        Point is, it was a very poorly written post and the writer is making a fool of himself being so arrogant about his weak and distorted points

        • BillyGoat says:

          Roach,

          I hear ya….i completely agree that Santana doesn’t replace Glavine with a healthy Pedro..and that’s fine….and going on there to give your opinion is fine…

          it just always seems to go back to lets bash anything and everything about Philadelphia and its fans and its team…are we saints??? by no means….but its just gotten a little tiresome….

          glad to see Tina got my sarcasm in my response to her post…….wow.

        • Roach2 says:

          Listen,

          There’s no excuse for some of the language and vulgarity on that site. However, i must say that i do enjoy hating Brett Myers, he of the wife-beating variety :-)

  18. BMets says:

    i dont know if anyone else said this but i think the part about are we comfortable giving Maine the ball for the last game is hilarious…if it came down to that last year Maines last start he had 14k’s and almost threw a no hitter…why would Mets fans be nervous to give him the ball on the last game if it came down to that…the last game is going to be pitched by some guy we never heard of though since we will have at least an 11 game lead at that point

    • EastFallowfield says:

      John Maine, other starts in Sept:

      @ FLA, 5 inn, 3 ER
      @ Wash, 4 1/3 inn, 8 ER
      ATL, 6 inn , 1 ER
      @ CIN 4 1/3, 6 ER

      (August-31 innings, 22 ER).

      Very hit and miss.

  19. Cactus says:

    Wiffle ball speed? Anyone ever heard of fast plastic? Those dudes throw gas…I wish puque was throwing wiffle ball speed.

  20. EastFallowfield says:

    If by chance, by some miracle, you guys don’t win the division I expect you all to leave nice apologies over there before you rip him next year for his opinion about 09…

  21. zemonstar says:

    lmfao i couldn’t stop laughing at what i read at that phillie’s blog… he says the mets’ rotation is weak, but wait, does that mean that the phillie’s rotation is strong? haha give me a break…

  22. BMets says:

    leave who an apology…the author of that article??? i expect all u phillies fans to make an apology to matt and the phillies to apologize for being little bitches about the Mets being in their heads and them wanteing to start fights because they know we are the better team

  23. edwin nieves says:

    Its obvious the Phillies and thier fans are “hating” after we aquired Santana. If they want to live in denial, so be it. The better, the division will then be wrapped up by July. “LETS GO METS”!

  24. metsomniac says:

    Can this season start already!