Comments on: Read: Mets Evade Discipline From MLB http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: theperfectgame http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105919 theperfectgame Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:20:21 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105919 I wouldn't exactly call 4 prospects, none of which were truly elite, "giving up the future". Seriously, what's the rate at which a team's top 10 prospects turn into perennial All-Stars/game-changing players? Maybe 5%? I know we all love our prospects, but any way you slice it, this was a great trade for the Mets, and the farm system is not that much worse than it already was. I do agree, however, that there will be an adjustment period for this team, particularly the new parts. People ecpecting the Mets to open up a ten game lead by mid-May are going to be sorely disappointed. I wouldn’t exactly call 4 prospects, none of which were truly elite, “giving up the future”. Seriously, what’s the rate at which a team’s top 10 prospects turn into perennial All-Stars/game-changing players? Maybe 5%? I know we all love our prospects, but any way you slice it, this was a great trade for the Mets, and the farm system is not that much worse than it already was.

I do agree, however, that there will be an adjustment period for this team, particularly the new parts. People ecpecting the Mets to open up a ten game lead by mid-May are going to be sorely disappointed.

]]> By: DannyPhantom http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105915 DannyPhantom Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:20:26 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105915 Forgot the Angels... Forgot the Angels…

]]> By: DannyPhantom http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105914 DannyPhantom Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:19:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105914 Hate to do this, but I really don't like you. Just thought I'd throw that out there. You pretty much seem to be a condescending a$$.. Why does every single post you make have to be taking some sort of jab at someone? Seriously. Your baseball knowledge is impressive, no doubt. But it seems as if every post you make in one way or another is in an attempt to put somebody down. And you've been doing it for a long time. It's old. Hate to do this, but I really don’t like you. Just thought I’d throw that out there. You pretty much seem to be a condescending a$$..

Why does every single post you make have to be taking some sort of jab at someone? Seriously. Your baseball knowledge is impressive, no doubt. But it seems as if every post you make in one way or another is in an attempt to put somebody down. And you’ve been doing it for a long time. It’s old.

]]> By: cgpublic http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105913 cgpublic Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:01:03 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105913 My thought is the 2008 Mets will take time to find their way due to a combination of the unresolved issues from last year's collapse and the unrealistic expectations related to Santana's signing. How many games did Santana win again last year? That's right, look it up. Sure he's pitching in the NL, but he is also human and may need time to adjust. Great signing if you don't mind giving up the future, but they still have to go out and play 162. My thought is the 2008 Mets will take time to find their way due to a combination of the unresolved issues from last year’s collapse and the unrealistic expectations related to Santana’s signing. How many games did Santana win again last year? That’s right, look it up. Sure he’s pitching in the NL, but he is also human and may need time to adjust. Great signing if you don’t mind giving up the future, but they still have to go out and play 162.

]]> By: itsmetsforme http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105907 itsmetsforme Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:36:07 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105907 my thought is that you're getting ahead of yourself. my thought is that you’re getting ahead of yourself.

]]> By: daktari http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105905 daktari Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:23:57 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105905 I would love to see a discussion thread about this. I think, that when we look back on the Mets, say 10 years from now, that the 07 collapse, will be viewed as one of the best things that happened to the Mets. Here is why. Had we limped into the playoffs, I doubt that we would have gone much further than the first round... and we would have been less willing to give up the farm for Santana. If we hadn't acquired Santana, we would be feeling "ok" about our mets, but certainly not in the 8.5 + "confidence. Would they have taken the same attitude in the off season to get ready? It seems that the "collapse" has driven more than one Met to begin their routines much earlier, loose weight, and/or completely tear down their approach and start over. We could go very deep this year into the playoffs, and I am not sure that it would have happened unless we had the unfortunate 07. Thoughts? Daktari I would love to see a discussion thread about this.

I think, that when we look back on the Mets, say 10 years from now, that the 07 collapse, will be viewed as one of the best things that happened to the Mets.

Here is why.

Had we limped into the playoffs, I doubt that we would have gone much further than the first round… and we would have been less willing to give up the farm for Santana.

If we hadn’t acquired Santana, we would be feeling “ok” about our mets, but certainly not in the 8.5 + “confidence.

Would they have taken the same attitude in the off season to get ready? It seems that the “collapse” has driven more than one Met to begin their routines much earlier, loose weight, and/or completely tear down their approach and start over.

We could go very deep this year into the playoffs, and I am not sure that it would have happened unless we had the unfortunate 07.

Thoughts?

Daktari

]]> By: BMets http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105903 BMets Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:57:35 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105903 that doesnt mean that the guys didnt come n just sit on the bench though that doesnt mean that the guys didnt come n just sit on the bench though

]]> By: mets484 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105902 mets484 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:55:54 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105902 i think the rule is new this year or something i think the rule is new this year or something

]]> By: gipper913i http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105901 gipper913i Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:44:13 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105901 cant say vance wasn't in there. vance was in there. cant say vance wasn’t in there. vance was in there.

]]> By: Nate W. http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105899 Nate W. Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:34:14 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/28/read-mets-evade-discipline-from-mlb/#comment-105899 sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=270228121 Granderson Neifi Perez Omar Infante Marcus Thames Sean Casey Vance Wilson R. Rayburn Hessman B. Watson (who?) I count one starter, five bench players, and three AAA guys, and the one starter Granderson played DH instead of CF. How dare the Tigers complain about what the Mets did. sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=270228121

Granderson
Neifi Perez
Omar Infante
Marcus Thames
Sean Casey
Vance Wilson
R. Rayburn
Hessman
B. Watson (who?)

I count one starter, five bench players, and three AAA guys, and the one starter Granderson played DH instead of CF. How dare the Tigers complain about what the Mets did.

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