Comments on: Buzz: Divided on Lohse, El Duque still in Pain http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106138 therealsince86 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:59:07 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106138 And if Pelfrey sucks or Pedro gets injured? And if Pelfrey sucks or Pedro gets injured?

]]> By: jamie http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106119 jamie Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:43:56 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106119 dude...<i>I agree</i> that signing bonds would be good. <i>I agree</i> that there's a ton of hypocrisy in most reasons given for not signing him by every team. And I wasn't talking about the players, I was talking about the Mets <i>orginization</i>...you know, the rich, conservative, (usually) closed-minded guys who run the team and sign the checks? They would be trashed all year by the press, and the credibility of the franchise would take a hit, however unfair that might be. It'd take balls of titanium to paint a target on yourself like that in the media capital of the country, and other than Mark Cuban, I don't think there's an owner in sports who'd do it. And please don't argue your point as if <i>I'm</i> the one who makes these things so, or that I'm arguing in their favor; I'm not. I understand your point, but I think we're already equipped to beat any team in baseball in a seven game series. Though that opinion is subject to change. dude…I agree that signing bonds would be good. I agree that there’s a ton of hypocrisy in most reasons given for not signing him by every team. And I wasn’t talking about the players, I was talking about the Mets orginization…you know, the rich, conservative, (usually) closed-minded guys who run the team and sign the checks? They would be trashed all year by the press, and the credibility of the franchise would take a hit, however unfair that might be. It’d take balls of titanium to paint a target on yourself like that in the media capital of the country, and other than Mark Cuban, I don’t think there’s an owner in sports who’d do it. And please don’t argue your point as if I’m the one who makes these things so, or that I’m arguing in their favor; I’m not.

I understand your point, but I think we’re already equipped to beat any team in baseball in a seven game series. Though that opinion is subject to change.

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106116 therealsince86 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:42:22 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106116 Uh ok, I was with you until you did not stop. Again, based on age and defense I would be ok with an Alou Bonds platoon but nothing more. They can't play OF everyday. Uh ok, I was with you until you did not stop.
Again, based on age and defense I would be ok with an Alou Bonds platoon but nothing more. They can’t play OF everyday.

]]> By: MetLifer http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106094 MetLifer Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:15:48 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106094 I mean all the... get Lohse.. get Garcia.. get X for the 5th starter when we don't one. We are fine with what we got. After doing some research about bunions, I don't think El Duque's pain will ever go away. Even with surgery it's not guaranteed. At mimimum it could be 4 months recovery. And with all the stress on the toe from pitching, it couuld aggravate it and cause pain all over again. I say let's start El Duque and see how far he gets. Then let Pelfrey or someone else take over. Then sit El Duque for the final 2 months of the season while throwing on the side to keep in shape (or throwing in the pen) and then prepare for the playoffs! I mean all the… get Lohse.. get Garcia.. get X for the 5th starter when we don’t one. We are fine with what we got.

After doing some research about bunions, I don’t think El Duque’s pain will ever go away. Even with surgery it’s not guaranteed. At mimimum it could be 4 months recovery. And with all the stress on the toe from pitching, it couuld aggravate it and cause pain all over again. I say let’s start El Duque and see how far he gets. Then let Pelfrey or someone else take over. Then sit El Duque for the final 2 months of the season while throwing on the side to keep in shape (or throwing in the pen) and then prepare for the playoffs!

]]> By: Kherubnym http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106093 Kherubnym Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:14:40 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106093 There was no defense to signing Mota, but they did. That set the precedent as an organization willing to sign players who have an association with a steroid past. Deal with what? What, reporters? Big whoop, it's New York. I think the players by now some how, some way will work to find a way to deal with....reporters...in New York. Ok, that was a bit childish tact on my behalf, but in all reality the Mets should conduct a cost analysis for the situation, and no I don't think they did...if they did, they got the wrong answer if it's no. Is Barry Bonds worth signing, yes or no? Signing Bonds is like signing the division over to the Mets instantly. It's like signing over the National League really, and it's likely signing the Championship. In five years, are people gonna talk about Barry Bonds being on this team, or are they gonna talk about the 2008 Mets winning the World Series? They're gonna talk about the Mets winning the World Series, just like they're gonna talk about the yankays success from '94 on....Bonds ensures post-season revenue. Bonds ensures amazing displays of offense on a nightly, Nightly(once more for emphasis) basis. It's unbelievable that Bonds is still available, and it's just disgraceful that he isn't signed by now...but, that being the case....hey, oh...oh hey...that's not such a bad thing if the Mets sign him.... Yes, we DO have to beat the Tigers, we have to beat everyone. The Mets Must be compared to the second, third, fourth best teams in the league(Major League) at all times....in order to win the World Series, you have to be the last team standing. <--- period. There was no defense to signing Mota, but they did. That set the precedent as an organization willing to sign players who have an association with a steroid past.

Deal with what? What, reporters? Big whoop, it’s New York. I think the players by now some how, some way will work to find a way to deal with….reporters…in New York. Ok, that was a bit childish tact on my behalf, but in all reality the Mets should conduct a cost analysis for the situation, and no I don’t think they did…if they did, they got the wrong answer if it’s no. Is Barry Bonds worth signing, yes or no?

Signing Bonds is like signing the division over to the Mets instantly. It’s like signing over the National League really, and it’s likely signing the Championship. In five years, are people gonna talk about Barry Bonds being on this team, or are they gonna talk about the 2008 Mets winning the World Series? They’re gonna talk about the Mets winning the World Series, just like they’re gonna talk about the yankays success from ’94 on….Bonds ensures post-season revenue. Bonds ensures amazing displays of offense on a nightly, Nightly(once more for emphasis) basis. It’s unbelievable that Bonds is still available, and it’s just disgraceful that he isn’t signed by now…but, that being the case….hey, oh…oh hey…that’s not such a bad thing if the Mets sign him….

Yes, we DO have to beat the Tigers, we have to beat everyone. The Mets Must be compared to the second, third, fourth best teams in the league(Major League) at all times….in order to win the World Series, you have to be the last team standing. <— period.

]]> By: jamie http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106087 jamie Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:06:22 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106087 agree agree

]]> By: jamie http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106083 jamie Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:02:55 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106083 I agree with you on let's play ball, but nobody's b*tching about anything. I agree with you on let’s play ball, but nobody’s b*tching about anything.

]]> By: jamie http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106080 jamie Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:00:03 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106080 didn't say bonds couldn't deal with the circus, I said the Mets probably don't want to deal with the circus. And I'm not pretending anything. Did you see that I agreed with you? But <i>you're</i> pretending if you think the Mets want to deal with all this. Mota came out and said he made a mistake, which made his signing defensible (morally, if not sensibly). We don't have to beat the tigers, we don't play the tigers. didn’t say bonds couldn’t deal with the circus, I said the Mets probably don’t want to deal with the circus.

And I’m not pretending anything. Did you see that I agreed with you? But you’re pretending if you think the Mets want to deal with all this. Mota came out and said he made a mistake, which made his signing defensible (morally, if not sensibly).

We don’t have to beat the tigers, we don’t play the tigers.

]]> By: rosemarymets http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106071 rosemarymets Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:50:21 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106071 willie and smart in the same sentence?????? willie and smart in the same sentence??????

]]> By: MetLifer http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106070 MetLifer Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:50:12 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/02/29/buzz-divided-on-lohse-el-duque-still-in-pain/#comment-106070 I wouldn't give Lohse or anyone a big guaranteed contract. Maybe if he was willing to sign for 1 million + incentives, but it seems like he wants multi-year at 10 mill+. We survived with a rotation of 5th starters last year and the year before with worse starters and we can do it again! WIth Sosa, Pelfrey, Armas, El Duque.. one of them has to pan out. There is no need to tie up a contract with a FIFTH starter when some weeks you don't even need one. I'd settle with any any healthy starter as the fifth. Stop the b*tching already and lets play ball!!! :) I wouldn’t give Lohse or anyone a big guaranteed contract. Maybe if he was willing to sign for 1 million + incentives, but it seems like he wants multi-year at 10 mill+. We survived with a rotation of 5th starters last year and the year before with worse starters and we can do it again! WIth Sosa, Pelfrey, Armas, El Duque.. one of them has to pan out. There is no need to tie up a contract with a FIFTH starter when some weeks you don’t even need one. I’d settle with any any healthy starter as the fifth. Stop the b*tching already and lets play ball!!! :)

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