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In the “Around the Majors” segment of his latest article for SI.com, Jon Heyman has the following tidbit on
Pedro Martinez.
“Pedro Martinez has been throwing without pain pills or ice. And one longtime Pedro watcher predicts, ‘He’s going to win the Cy Young.’
Meanwhile, Martinez, 36, is telling friends he’d like to play a couple more years but probably not into his 40s. He understand the ball is in the Mets’ court and that he can’t approach them until he proves he’s healthy”
…come on, you can’t predict that and remain anonymous…was it a relative, a coach, just some fan that’s watched pedro over the years…anyway, only pedro’s health is of real concern to me as i’m confident in his ability to be a second ace for the Mets as long as his body lets him…
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all of my friends disagree but I think Pedro is going to have a very nice year for us. Just stay healthy….
It’ss hard to say. But over age 33 athletes can get hurt at a daily perodic rate of .0921% (more often) compounded each day until forty. Then it rises.
holy sht, why are we all awake?!
pedro: please retire as a Met
I am on board with this too… I think that he is going to have a great season as well… beyond expectation.
This season just feels right to me…
Pedro will win 15. But, the more I hear stuff like this, I think that we could have at least two 18-game winners, maybe three (Ollie would be the third, if he progresses).
he can approach them. They can say back off and hold off. Wait guy. Not so fast there, friend.
Maine would definitely be the candidate for 18 wins and not Ollie, IMO. Maine’s got a good head on his shoulders and guys just can’t seem to lay off that fastball. At any given second, Ollie Perez’s brain could mutate and he’ll go back to being that headcase, although with +++stuff. Actually, I say our 1-4 starters win 18 each! Too much to ask??
No. I have Johan going 22-5, myself. I have zero statistical analysis for this–it’s just a feeling.
I believe the Orioles had four 20 game winners one year a while back.
At yesterday’s spring game vs. the Cards, had a chance to speak with Randy Nieman, the Mets rehab coordinator. Asked him point blank, how’s Pedro doing? Nemo said he’s “Excellent” and they “can’t wait for the season to begin!”
I’m not particularly concerned about Pedro. Maybe because he proved last year that his shoulder was sound, plus the time off probably let his other ailments heal. Sure, he could blow out his arm at any time, but the same can be said about any pitcher.
If he is healthy and pitches well in ST, he is certainly cpable of winning the Cy Young.
Mets should try to get a 2 year extension in place by July. Give him enough time to show he is going to last, and get it done. Seems like both sides want it, and I doubt (hope?) that Martinez is going to go all Boras at this point. Give him 2 years, fair money, and plenty of love and respect, and he should be happy to reup.\
People have mentioned Santana helping the pen, well, he might help Pedro just as much (gives him a challenge, and also takes some pressure off).
Finally, 4 15 game winners (assuming they stay healthy of course) should be a given, 4 18 game winners is possible, heck, 4 20 game winners is possible.
Not likely that all of them get there, but you can reasonably argue that any one of the 4 is capable of winning 15-20 on their own, and all 4 are also legitimate Cy Young candidates (assuming they have the career year they each have the talent for).
I think it will be amusing if the Mets rotation ended up being the strongest part of the team, and best in the league, when we heard all winter how it was a toxic waste dump.
I agree re: Pedro. After dealing with his various injuries and ailments that past two seasons, the guy seems legitimately healthy for the first time in his career. There’s always “risk” with a pitcher, especially an older pitcher, but I’m not going to sit here and count on Pedro to miss a bunch of starts. He’s healthy until proven otherwise in my book.
However many innings Pedro has in his arm, he doesn’t want to leave a lot of them in Florida. I still think that by the end of Spring Training his velocity will be up from last year. He will have had more time to recover. He came back way too soon last year. If his velocity is up, with his encyclopedic knowledge of pitching, he could be a big winner.
I love hearing stuff like this, even from ‘anonymous’.
His arm strength should be up from last year. He’s got encyclopedic knowledge of pitching and plenty of smarts to utilize it. A huge heart and amazing willpower. Yeah, barring some unforeseen calamity like a taxi ride form hell, well…I have no doubt Pedro could win the Cy Young award.
He’s one of the great characters in the game right now and he LIKES playing for the Mets. As a fan I’m just grateful he enjoys playing in Flushing Meadows.
I think that if Pedro pitches like he did at the end of last season he will make a run for it, but thats it. He is competing with guys like Santana, Young, Peavy, Zambrano, I mean there are just too many people he will have to compete with, and he is coming off an injury.
The mets have a rotation where their top 4 starting pitchers could win 15+ games each. That’s amazing. What other team has that, maybe Arizona, and San Diego but not many.
he wont have the innings pitched to win it over the type of guys mentioned above. ive never cared about my teams players winning individual awards (excluding piazza winning an mvp bc he was my favorite baseball player on any team). as long as pedro can go out be healthy and produce for the team hopefully win 15 or maybe even more if possible i think we’d all be more than satisfied with that.
What exactly would keep someone from going on the record with this statement? Anonymous source?
Obviously I’m excited to hear that Pedro’s throwing the ball well… but man, I hate Heyman so much. He loves quoting these random anonymous sources because it makes him look like some super-exclusive, well-connected baseball insider who’s so much more knowledgable than the average fan, but in reality his opinions are stupid and his writing is terrible.
Last week he wrote a column defending Rollins over Holliday as MVP (in which he mentioned Wright only to say that he couldn’t vote for DW due to the collapse, even though he admitted that it wasn’t Wright’s fault… argh, so illogical). Anyway, his primary defense of Rollins was that, “even a Rockies insider told me that Rollins deserved the award over Holliday.” Now, who do you think he talked to? If it was Clint Hurdle or Troy Tulowitski, maybe that opinion would carry some weight. But I’m willing to bet that he spoke to the Vice President of Public Relations, or Chief Groundskeeper, or a peanut vendor. What makes the opinion of some random Rockies personnel so much more valid than the empirical evidence of statistics? Answer: nothing, Heyman just arrogantly wants to appear well-connected. (Not that Holliday deserved the award either; Wright was the obvious choice.) Anyway, sorry to bring up the sore subject of MVP again, but… Jon Heyman represents everything that is wrong with sports journalism.
Go Pedro!
I’ll be happy if Pedro makes 30 starts this year and somewhere around 200 innings. If he do that the numbers will take care of themselves.
Petey Petey Petey. Where for art though?
The man is in PSL and approaching the final 3 holes of the back nine of his career. I think the world of him and my biggest concern about his return was would he still be able to produce strikeouts and outs with a repaired shoulder. To be honest…that question was answered last year. He is at no greater risk to be hurt or injured than any other 36 yr old pitcher in the bigs. Probably a little less so since he has “taken care” of his problems through the surgery.
I am not about to predict his win totals or cy young or anything like that. I am going to say he will be the best pitcher in NY on both teams next year including Santana.
I tend to be a believer that playing in Ny takes a little getting used to unless you grow up playing here like Gooden did and Wright did and Seaver did and Reyes. Most struggle in their first season and some never get back to the comfort level they had elsewhere when they were so successful.
I think Santana will eventually be great and will win 20 games for us at some point in a season during his contract and will win a cy. Just don’t think this is that year. I do think that Pedro is hungry for a new contract, for the title of ace of the staff and for a WS championship that he delivers. He will be lights out in 08