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…as i mentioned earlier, i did not travel with the team to Jupiter to watch today’s game…instead, i stayed back at Tradition Field to watch the rest of the team work out…
…the locker room was quiet…a tired Carlos Beltran sat at his locker…Duaner Sanchez and a few other relief pitchers were privately talking in a group…
every one was being quiet, except Pedro Martinez, who after being interviewed by a reporter, started talking about his love for ice cream, and other types of food…he is very entertaining…and he talks a lot…
…also, sitting quietly at his locker, very unassuming, just messing with his cell phone, was Johan Santana…i had a baseball in my hand, so i introduced myself and asked him how he holds his circle change-up, which is a pitch i used to try and throw when i played baseball in high school…so, i sat on the stool next to him, and he spent the next 10 minutes explaining it to me, positioning my fingers on the ball and essentially breaking it all down for me…
…i love the art of pitching, so this was very exciting to me…especially since he has the best change-up in baseball…
…duaner left, beltran left and pedro left, as did others…but johan stayed, and continued to talk with me about the circle change…he didn’t have to do it, either…he could have easily just gotten up and gone home, which was clearly his next step in the day…but, he didn’t…instead, he sat there with me and walked me through the whole process…
…basically, you make an okay sign with your hands and grip the ball with your middle finger, ring finger and pinky, leaving your thumb and pointer just off to the side…the ball is thrown like a fastball, but because of the deep yet delicate grip, the ball puffs out of the hand at a lesser speed…however, the key, he explained, is to hold it just like the four-seam fastball, which i was not doing…according to santana, most pitchers just focus on the grip, and are not concerned with the seams…in fact, some prefer to not be touching any seams… unlike the standard two-seam change-up, which he used to throw, in this case, most all of his fingers are on a seam…he made me try to pull the ball from his hand while he was holding it, to demonstrate how strong of a grip he can get…so, the way he does it, the seams rotate in the same direction as his fastball, deceiving the batters even more, because, as he put, “These hitters are not stupid.”…the funny thing is, i think that grip is fairly standard…it’s just, he is so disciplined in his delivery, that when coupled with the consistent rotation, it’s just impossible to pick up which pitch he is throwing because initially they all look exactly the same…
“This is why I focus so much on my release point, because that’s what makes my change-up better,” he explained to me. “I want to make sure all of my pitches look the same, and so I get the same release point and same arm speed every pitch. And that takes time. That’s what I work on. Not just the grip, but everything from head to toe so that everything can look the same. We worked on all of that until we got it right. That’s how I approach my games, my batting practices, my bullpen sessions. I am very serious when I throw my bullpen. I’m not just throwing. I want to make sure that everything is in place, from location to mechanics to delivery to release point. Everything. It’s not just the grip. There are a lot of things involved in throwing a change-up.”
…also, i was under the impression he pulled his hand inward upon releasing the ball, to give it that diving action…he said no…he just throws it like a fastball…
…in fact, the reason he likes the pitch so much is because it does not involve any twisting of his elbow, saying, “It does not put any pressure on the elbow, and it keeps it loose.”…
…lastly, i asked if Rick Peterson has brought anything new to his attention…he said peterson told him to just be himself…be comfortable…and i agree…
…by the way, after i shook johan’s hand and said ‘Thank you for the lesson,’ i was sure to take the ball back from him…i wanted to keep it…it has no autograph on it…it looks like any other ball…except, i will always be able to point to it and say, “This is the ball Johan Santana used to teach me his circle change-up,” which i am pretty excited about…


if the mets get santana then we are in business.
I’m just using gipper’s comment to make sure my comment is up near the top …
Matt, I am so jealous right now that I may actually burn Rick Cerrone baseball cards simply because you share his last name.
right now you have the second best job in the world behind the actual players themselves. that was a really cool story, and it seems like santana really is a good guy like pedro had been saying when they first got him.
give it up matt…we know you are in your basement right now
Did he “muss” up your hair and buy you an ice cream?
I think you mean “tussle”, and yes, he did. No ice cream though . . .
Gee wiz Mister Santana, thanks for the lesson!
turns out we got santana. we would be in business if we had a healthy gotay.
Hey CERRONE; Stop pestering all the players….
You sound like a giddy little kid in a candy store. I love it.
what did u just say?
Anyone else find it funny how John Maine didn’t cry about the money the Mets re-upped his contract for while Prince Fielder and Cole Hamels wouldn’t shut up about it?
This sentence structure is all wrong…haha. Not quite sure I understand?
I know it’s not the best grammar, but clearly you can deduce my point…
That’s because Prince Fielder is fat, Cole Hamels is a sweaty punk, and John Maine is intelligent and classy.
Met fan, are you? I could hardly tell
I think it has less to do with intelligence or class and more to do with the fact that John Maine is too metal to care about such trivial nonsense like money. His entrance music is Seek & Destroy off Metallica’s first album. From what I’ve read about Maine, it would seem his personality evokes a little Bill “Spaceman” Lee and that can only be a good thing.
i also read like a week ago that he had just used the internet for hte first time haha…seems like he’s just happy he’s playing the game for a living.
Yeah, but John Maine isn’t Prince Fielder (talent wise). He could be, but he’s not.
Prince Fielder wants to be paid by the pound.
haha. that made me giggle.
well if johan misses any time, it sounds like cerrone can step right in
Matt Cerrone = demigod.
im going to have to strongly disagree
BRAGGART!
I don’t get it. If the grip is the same as his fastball and his arm speed is the same, what gives it the different movement?
The seams my young padawan, the SEAMS!!!
hahahaha i rarely ever actually start laughing when I read something online… but i must admit, i just laughed
the grip is different - there was a great graphic either in the SI article last week or in the NY Times (I don’t remember which) that showed exactly how Johann does it.
you know, I think I missed half of that paragraph. I have no idea why, I am not doing anything at work. All I had to do today was grab a pepsi and read this post. And I am sitting here with a Root Beer and misread the post. I’m 0-2.
in the Times
The diagram was in the NYT and it was an excellent article as well.
My yankees fan co-worker gave me the times article. Great info. Really breaks it down. Must read.
search “Santana’s Changeup: Hitters Never See It Coming”
or email me at keith[dot]suth [at] gmail [.dot. ] com and i will email you the link.
NY Times on 3/3/08
The grip is different - the thumb and index finger form a circle, which makes his hold on the ball less firm than when holding the ball for a fastball (index and middle forming a V over the seams). So, with all other things being equal - arm delivery and angle and speed of arm - the less firm grip causes the ball to lose some velocity on it.
As an aside - Matt, were you able to pull the ball from his grip? I’d be a bit nervous for fear of ripping a finger nail or something like that, leading to a stay on the DL for Johan.
haha yea seriously, i wouldve refused to touch his pitching hand in fear that id like dislocate his middle finger.