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…by the way, Orlando Hernandez told some reporters this afternoon that he is toying with a new windup, which will be shorter and will not include his over-exaggerated leg kick…in fact, if you go back and watch my video from Monday, you’ll see him working with Rick Peterson on this very delivery…he would only lift the leg roughly half way…it was odd to see, since his motion is so classic…
To watch the video, click here and go to the one-minute mark.
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OK, the guy is about 45, his toe/foot hasn’t healed since last September, and now he is going to reinvent his motion, even though he can’t push off of the rubber?
Not sure quite why, but somehow I am sceptical.
The Phillies Nation blog just told their readers to go to the mets
webpage and use the password “flash” to buy presale tickets to mets phillies games. It’s true, as anyone who is a subscriber to the Mets Flash will tell you…go to use the password “flash” and you can buy some single game tickets.
yea….not too worried…we sold a crapload more seats in general…tehy may have a large presence at ONE of the games…but they won’t do much damage, plus that presale has been going since 9am today…hopefully a lot of true met fans got in on that.
this is actually the third presale the mets have had. First was for season ticket holders, next partial plan, then flash subscribers. All of the good seats are gone for good games. I’ll be fine with 10 or 15 phils fans in UR No Alcohol.
I got 4 seats in row A in the mezz.
anyone notice THRILLEDGE is batting 438….do church or schneider have a hit yet?
get used to these posts all year
yeah, but Pagan is hitting even higher than that.
You just got stuck by stickguy.
and ur mom got stuck by me last night
twice
Shame she didn’t notice…………twice.
He’s done. Well, at least as a starter.
I was hoping he would just be given a bullpen role from the get-go and we could sign someone like Colon (before he got snatched up by Boston), Lohse or Livan who would more than likely at the very least give us league averages in all major pitching stats, and combine with Pelfrey to make an okay 5th spot in the rotation. Not to mention provide a cushion just in case Pedro or anybody else in the rotation needs a breather.
At this point in El Duque’s career and looking at his PECOTA projection he would be much better suited to the pen.
I think it’s time to put El Duque’s Mets career out of it’s misery.
Enough already.
They should just have him back up Delgado at 1B.
He has a better bat than Dave Newhan.
:ets say its 1989, i want to play a pepper game on the Shea field. the sign says, No Pepper Games. What do I do? Do I play the pepper game and then face the wrath of Nelson P. Doubleday III?
This isn’t about El Duque but does anybody know with the way it’s lined up who is pitching Friday against the Indians? It’ll be on ESPN so I’ll finally get to watch a Mets ST game on TV
I’m thinking Oliver Perez will get the start, at least it’ll be on his regular days’ rest. Not sure who else will go, though.
El Duque is a warrior, battle tested, and a victor. He belongs in the rotation if he can limp out on the field at all, and if he can muster the where with all to make it on to that field come Post Season…put in the books, cause he’s gonna win that motha lovin game. He’s a winner. Don’t forget that.
Amen.
awful post. rhetoric nonsense. at best it would work if you put all that stuff in the past tense.
he’s been there for weeks and can’t get through a bullpen session. the mets should be viewing him the same way they viewed pedro last year- anything you get is bonus.
Pedro is slated to start on FRIDAY
I was told earlier that it would be on Thursday. But I like Friday better since I would be able to catch it on ESPN.
Great. Tomorrow, we’ll read that he bruised an ovary perfecting his new delivery.
Stop. Please. Enough of El Duque. Mike Pelfrey come on down, you’re the next fifth starter on the New York Mets!
Unless, of course, the Met FO overthinks it and signs Kyle Lohse.
Then, Mr. Pelfrey, you’re the next spot starter for the New York Mets!!
how can you already be so in favor of having Pelfrey in the rotation right now over El Duque…At least wait till Pelfrey throws a couple more spring training outings.. Lets not forget El Duque was our MOST consistent pitcher last year in terms of era
He was also our best starter when it came to WHIP. But you have to look at this more realistically. He posted his best ERA since 2004 and his best WHIP since 2002, he isn’t likely to repeat that success. He may seem ageless but he is still getting (even) older and has broken down at the end of the last two seasons and now we are hearing hasn’t thrown hard at all so far this ST and is reworking his delivery. Not good signs. They should just go ahead and try to maximize his value out of the bullpen.
You know why? Where was El Duque when we needed him in 2006 or 2007? In the doctor’s office. Where was Pelfrey? Pitching like Pedro Martinez. If it wasn’t for Pelfrey, Chan Ho Park would’ve given the Phillies the division in Mid-September.
Dizzy Dean, anyone?
No thanks.
I hate frozen sausage.
El Duque without the leg kick? What’s the point?
j/k, all of these haters don’t realize that The Duke is still one of the most effective SPs in the game.
How about a Pelfry/Hernandez platoon?, not a 6 man rotation but rather a 4.5 man rotation; it might work.
haters be hatin, yo
nobody hates him and everybody realizes he’s still an effective starting pitcher. it’s his defenders that don’t realize that stuff is irrelevant when he can’t pitch. he can’t right now, and to expect even half a season out of him at this point is asking a ton.
i’d feel way better about the rotation if he were healthy. he’s terrific. but he’s not healthy right now, and hasn’t been able to stay healthy when he is pitching.
kind of tough to pull off the leg kick when you have one foot in the grave, no?
maybe he should just bite the bullet, and get the bunion taken out, and do the rehab.
Maybe he can come back by August for the stretch run, and give them a boost for the playoffs (assuming, of course, they make it!)
He can serve the role that Garcia was being considered for (mid season back up)
when hes 50, and on crutches… will we still be saying hes a winner and should be on the team as long as he could limp out there?
by the way… how many BIG games has he pitches for us?
oh yea.. he was hurt when it counted in 06
i honestly LOVE him to death …. but the time to cut ties is coming closer
and yes he was out BEST pitcher last year …. when he actually pitched ….. which is becoming very very few and far between …
and im not a hater … have always loved this guy
in a fantasy baseball draft last week, I picked El Duque in the last round….. In a fantasy baseball draft today, I picked Pelfrey in the last round…..
shows how quickly things have changed
I still think El Duque will do a good jobs in however many innings he can muster. The guy knows how to PITCH.
and if pelfrey is pitching really well when Duque is ready to step back into the rotation ????
is it worth hindering Pelf’s development?
blah, i duno
what about kevin milar for a bench guy..he is a great clubhouse guy with a lot of hype. Like a Loduca with composure. he hits lefties and most impoortantly he plays both corner outfield spots and firstbase. any thoughts?
“Great clubhouse guy with a lot of hype” is a big red-flag phrase. That’s what you say about someone whose stats say they’re not as good as you think they are.
Three problems with the idea: (1) You say he’s a great clubhouse guy, but the word out of Boston was that he wasn’t; (2) What makes you think he’d be willing to become a bench player; (3) His production off the bench is untested – not every player makes that transition smoothly.
El Dugue’s motion contributed to his success. It made it difficult for the hitter to pick the ball up and affected the hitter’s timing. Simplifying his motion could very well make El Dugue easier to hit.
Prediction;
Pelfrey wins the fifth spot.
El Duque is finished completely.
I am too lazy to wiki bunions. Can’t it just be removed? I think the guy is just too old and theres nothing left in the tank. He is 46.333.
Anyway;
I wikied bunions;
A bunion (hallux valgus) is a sometimes painful structural deformity of the bones and the joint between the foot and big toe.
Treatment
Bunions may be treated conservatively with changes in shoe gear, different orthotics (accommodative padding and shielding), rest, ice, and medications. These sorts of treatments address symptoms more than they correct the actual deformity. Surgery, by a Podiatrist, may be necessary if discomfort is severe enough or when correction of the deformity is desired.
Surgery
Procedures are designed and chosen to correct a variety of pathologies that may be associated with the bunion. For instance, procedures may address some combination of:
* removing the abnormal bony enlargement of the first metatarsal,
* realigning the first metatarsal bone relative to the adjacent metatarsal bone,
* straightening the great toe relative to the first metatarsal and adjacent toes,
* realigning the cartilagenous surfaces of the great toe joint,
* addressing arthritic changes associated with the great toe joint,
* repositioning the sesamoid bones beneath the first metatarsal bone,
* shortening, lengthening, raising, or lowering the first metatarsal bone, and
* correcting any abnormal bowing or misalignment within the great toe.
The age, health, lifestyle, and activity level of the patient may also play a role in the choice of procedure.
Bunion surgery can be performed under local, spinal, or general anesthetic. The trend has moved strongly towards using the less invasive local anesthesia over the years. A patient can expect a 6- to 8-week recovery period during which crutches are usually required for aid in mobility. It is much less common today as newer, more stable procedures and better forms of fixation (stabilizing the bone with screws and other hardware) are used.
Orthotics: bunion cushions, splints, regulators
Other measures include various footwear like gelled toe spacers, bunion / toes separators, bunion regulators, bunion splints, and bunion cushions
Just makes you wonder why he didn’t have it fixed right back in October (hey, he wasn’t doing anything else!) so he could have had it rehabbed by now.
This is going to be just like Pedro’s toe, with the missing special shoe, etc.
If they go to surgery, I doubt you see him before July, but if he keeps on trying ti pitch like he his, you may not see him at all.
So try a custom orthodic and padding, and if that doesn’t work, he needs to decide if he wants surgery + rehab to try and pitch this year, or he can just retire and go home.
Keeping the team in limbo like this (can he or can’t he pitch? How long before he breaks down again?) can’t continue. Fish or cut bait time old man.
I don’t know why I can’t post the link, but the Times has an article quoting El Duque as saying it’d take two years to rehab the bunion.
Google “With a sinker in tow, a journey begins”, the Times article should be the first link… it’s in the “Inside Pitch” section at the bottom of the article.
He’s old, the bunion’s old, and he just had surgery on the adjacent toe – altering the big toe would cause significantly greater balance problems than the ones he’s already suffering.