Matthew Cerrone

PSL: Delgado Swings from a Tee
By Matthew Cerrone - Mar 5, 2008 12:30 pm

Carlos Delgado did some light hitting from a tee today. 

He told reporters that his hip feels good, and hopes to take live batting practice tomorrow.

of course, that will all depend on how he feels following today’s tee session

…it’s starting to fee like two steps forward, one step back with so many of these players and their health

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Comment by Don
2008-03-05 12:37:09

Thames, N. Johnson, Nady, some insurance please. Easier said then done, but do it. Delgado will bat .250 with 24 HR this year, if he even makes it to 150+ games.

Comment by johan santana is my son
2008-03-05 12:46:35

i wouldnt mind a nick johnson or x nady but it doesnt even seem like they are shopping around for any back up first baseman. delgado is already bitchin about injuries now and if he doesnt have at least a decent season it will be a huge blow to the team this year. he is important to the offense this year and we need him to get healthy.

 
Comment by JDuelz (Athens, GA)
2008-03-05 12:59:39

When Delgado has a bounce-back year from the horrible April that defined him last season, look for me to say, “I told you so.” ;-)

Comment by Don
2008-03-05 13:05:43

i hope you are right, but my instinct tells me naw.

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Comment by wiseman
2008-03-05 12:43:22

delgado needs glasses

Comment by MacD81
2008-03-05 12:45:08

Delgado need my grandmother’s hip. It might be an upgrade.

 
 
Comment by nyleetch2
2008-03-05 12:44:47

well - with the acquisition of santana and then all these injuries the whole thing seems to be 2 steps forward 1 step back (ok maybe 5 steps forward 2 steps back…) we always seem to have some injures, its just the number that worries me. El Duque, Delgado, Beltran, Easley, Anderson, Gotay, Church, Chavez. Thats 8 out of 25 or almost 1/3 of our likely opening day roster who aren’t playing/practicing right now because of some injury or recovery or other. Even though only 4 of them are starters, and 3 of those guys (Delgado Beltran Church) probably will be playing when the season starts, its hard not to be a little concerned…

Comment by johan santana is my son
2008-03-05 12:49:03

well church easley anderson and chavez will be back soon gotay will need some time delgado who knows and beltran and el duque will likely drag their injuries into the season knowing both of them

 
 
Comment by Don
2008-03-05 12:45:39

This didn’t seem to be a concern by many fans in the offseason, much like Delgado’s minor hand surgery last offseason. We paid dearly for Delgado’s inability to hit anything on the inside of the plate as his bat speed, possibly brought on by the hand injury, declined. When Delgado did hit the ball it was into the shift. His offensive disappearance for a month at a time cost the Mets the division. Other factors did too, Reyes’ second half production drop-off, Glavine getting blown up in game 162, Randolph’s mishandling of the bullpen, Guermo Mota for simply existing. But none more consistently than Delgado’s suckage. And now Carlos Beltran’s “minor” knee surgery has David Lennon of Newsday reporting this:

“Beltran shagged fly balls yesterday, but there’s one hitch: He can run in a straight line, but stopping is a challenge. And he can’t plant his feet to make a throw.”

Comment by JDuelz (Athens, GA)
2008-03-05 13:01:55

It had to be the hand (I also want to say the birth of his child might have messed him up last season, who knows) because I remember Delgado’s wheelhouse being down and in, something he was terrible at least year.

Sounds like I’m pole-jockin’ Delgado, but really… I think we’ll be praising him this year… Don’t ask me how or why, but we will. :-)

 
 
Comment by Don
2008-03-05 12:51:52

I’ve seen a couple of reports about thames. the guy has a sick HR to AB ratio, one of the best in the game. he doesn’t hit for high average but it isn’t like I expect high average out of Delgado anyway. The Tigers need bullpen help. Maybe Schoenweiss and a portion of his contract for Thames. Or Jorge Sosa?

Thames can handle the corner outfield and 1b. He can platoon versus lefties in RF for Church. or start when Alou goes down. or when Endy is playing for Beltran’s fragile legs in CF, Thames could definately take LF. Or when Delgado is out cuz of thehip, or against lefties there too.

Comment by therealsince86
2008-03-05 12:58:16

He’s not a bad backup but you do realize that he is worse offensivley he’s worse than last year’s Delgado. Look at his stats, there pretty bad.

Comment by Don
2008-03-05 13:13:54

Delgado is on a serious decline. he has a hip issue too, on top of last year’s hand issue, and the broken hand he got in game 162 as well.

i think thames in the lineup every day can be comparable to Delgado prodcution. his HR per AB ratio is among the elite in the league. He can easily hit 25 HR. Delgado will hit the same amount if healthy. Delgado isn’t going deep 30 times. Thames is going deep more than 20 if he gets his AB’s, look at his power numbers.

so maybe delgado has .10 on him for batting average. delgado has to prove he can play first.

plus look at Thames’ splits versus lefties. it isover .300. That sounds like a guy wo can platoon effectively versus lefties with Church. Plus Alou inevitably will go down. It really makes a lot of sense.

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Comment by therealsince86
2008-03-05 13:37:36

Come on the guy has a .278 OBP. He adds nothing more than a backup. Easley is a better option if healthy than Thames.

 
 
 
Comment by Another Matt
2008-03-05 13:00:35

Yeah, Thames hits some homers.

He does nothing else with the bat though. A career .241 hitter, his OBP last year was a dreadful .278 - the 4th year out of 6 in his ML career that it’s been below .300.

Then you move him into a pitcher-friendly park like Shea, and you’re taking away the only thing he has.

Enough of this crazy talk already.

Comment by Don
2008-03-05 13:08:42

it isn’t crazy talk, it is a plan B. play GM, what is your plan b for first base?

I say Delgado hits .250. I may be wrong, but assuming I am not, Thames won’t be far off that mark at all, and could hit that if he gets more AB’s. His power numbers certainly are comparable to Delgado when looking in the 2008 context.

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Comment by Another Matt
2008-03-05 13:19:31

Why would you trade away a Sosa or a Show, who have some value, to obtain a player who’s ceiling is Delgado’s floor?

Thames had 269 ABs last year… it’s very unlikely we’d give him that many, let alone more.

Delgado hit .258 last season over the whole year - but in the second half he hit .285. He’d have to be significantly worse than his second half of last year to be as bad as Thames.

If you’re going to give away a player who was certain to see significant action, make sure you get back someone you’re comfortable seeing a lot of. Another poster has been advocating Kendry Morales who seems to me a vastly better proposition.

 
Comment by therealsince86
2008-03-05 13:48:42

I am not saying that if he comes for the price of just Show and he knows that he is a backup at best then maybe. But, even then we will miss even last year’s Delgado compared to Thames. Delgado’s OBP was 50 points higher last season which by the way was the lowest of his career because of a horrible April.

Second question, if Delgado is in such severe decline then how did he manage to hit over .320 in July and September? If anything he was just incosistant like always. I posted this earlier this year but if you take out April he hit .274 with 23 HR with about a .350 OBP.

 
Comment by stickguy
2008-03-05 14:08:11

That is where the new baby cost him. Didn’t he miss a couple of weeks of ST to go home? Figure that all the time getting in a groove that he missed carried over into April.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Wayneo
2008-03-05 14:37:52

Delgado went 0 for 4 from the tee with three strike outs and a pop out.

 
Comment by deport_liberals
2008-03-05 15:16:24

Here is where Willie really hurts the Mets. Instead of sensibly carrying 11 pitchers and allowing an extra position player on the roster, the Mets need 12 pitchers to try and cover for Willie’s inability to manage a staff.

As of right now, Church and Delgado lack adequate backups.

 
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