Comments on: Opinion: I Accept Angel Pagan

By: Danny1986

Danny1986 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:18:25 +0000

Question….If you were to surround Beltran in the lineup with Joe McEwing, Rey Ordonez, Kevin Elster, Anderson Hernandez, and Buddy Biancalana…would he have the same OBP, OPS, or anyother Bill James acronym you deem so relevant?

Common Sense.

By: Son of Choo Choo Coleman

Son of Choo Choo Coleman — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:13:07 +0000

The best name of all was my Dad’s!

Choo Choo Coleman!

By: stickguy

stickguy — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:20:47 +0000

where do you get pagan being a journeyman from? He is only 26, and 2007 was his first in the bigs. He did OK for his first year, playing part time.

And, unlike Rivera, at least he played the last 2 years.

He has some skills, and is at the right age to become a productive major leaguer. Maybe he won’t be the next matt Holliday, and I doubt he will hit 30+ HRs as a regular, but he has a nice bat, plays D, can run, etc.

For a fill in while Alou is out, what more can you really ask for?

By: mets484

mets484 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:25:30 +0000

you’re right, stats mean nothing in ST…… but form does mean something, and anyone who’s watched Pagan play knows that he’s got great form right now…

that seems kinda confusing, so i’ll give an example….. if a pitcher in spring training pitches 4 hitless innings, despite not hitting the right locations and having the right arm slot, etc. it is worse than a pitcher who allows 4 runs but is pitching with great velocity, location, etc. …

its about the preparation (form) up until opening day, then its about the execution (stats)

By: cityfield5

cityfield5 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 03:34:41 +0000

what good does 2006 do anyone? it didnt help us in 2007, and 2006 sure as hell not gonna help in 08. maybe 08 is pagan’s year. just because rivera had a good 06 doesnt mean hes gonna have a good 08

By: KinersKornerman

KinersKornerman — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:29:48 +0000

For Nady, the Pirates would like OP back (except for the salary part of OP).

By: bxsci insight

bxsci insight — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:25:48 +0000

Pagan is a journeyman ballplayer. I like Rivera or Nady, prferably rivera. He showed so much potential in 2006. Pagan has shown potential in 10 spring training games. The entire 2006 season or 10 spring training games. I’ll take Rivera.

By: pedros rooster

pedros rooster — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:04:30 +0000

Make sure the dog crap can get lefties out.

By: cityfield5

cityfield5 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:58:09 +0000

pagan definitely deserves his shot. it almost angers me to think that they might not give him the job. why trade for him in the first place… im all for giving him as many shots to prove himself as they can give him. i never understood trading for a guy with major league skills and letting him sit in the minors. its like the saying sometimes the best move is not making a move at all. granted there are times where it is necessary to have some extra back ups in the minors, but i think pagan has talent.

By: shytownmet

shytownmet — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:53:50 +0000

Since living in Chicago for the last 2 summers, and having season tix at wrigley (my girl is a Cubs fan), I’ve watched Pagan over the last 2 seasons intently… He’s definitely not the same player he was in chicago. I never thought he was a standout player, and fit his role as an occasional fill-in. In watching him play this spring, he’s evolved into a veteran presence. first and foremost, his approach to the plate is much better, he’s patient. and in the mix-match of lineups we put out there, you can see him nuturing the younger and invitee players. He truly looks comfortable, which is reciprocating to his play on the field. he’s always had a chip on his shoulder since the mets let him go. HOWEVER, I still feel like he’s coming back to earth any day. i think Fernando deserves most of the PT. He needs big league experience, big league ABs. -shytownmet