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In his first start of the spring, Pedro Martinez tossed four shutout innings yesterday while striking out four of 15 batters.
…pedro is not as powerful as he once was, but he 
remains successful by using a lethal combination of humility, creativity and self-awareness…for instance, he allowed a bloop single Ivan Rodriguez on his very first pitch of the game…in year’s past he may have been able to reach back and strike out the next batter on a 95–mph fastball…
…yesterday, though, he simply went for the ground ball…got it…and erased pudge’s hit with a double play by Carlos Guillen…nothing fancy…far from powerful…but always effective…
…he knows who he is, and what he’s capable of, he plays to his strengths and continues to be a winner, and that should actually be a lesson to all of us – not just other pitchers…
Willie Randolph talked with reporters after the game about Martinez’s outing, and had the following to say regarding:
…Martinez’s overall day…
“It’s a good day’s work, good outing, that’s all it is for me, man. he used all of his pitches real well, pitched inside, I mean, you’re looking at a pro just going about his work getting ready for the season, that’s what it looked like to me.”
…Ramon Castro’s comments that this is a different Pedro than before, as he has more life on his fastball…
“Well, wasn’t it a couple of days ago that guys were saying that he didn’t have anything on his fastball? Eh, I don’t get in to all of that stuff guys, come on. It just goes to show that when the game starts, when you’re in the game it’s a totally different mindset. you start bringing out radar guns for simulated games and you’re just wasting your time…To me, he just looked like Pedro getting ready for the season, and he looked great to me.”
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17-6, 3.17 ERA, 184 IP, 179 K
If he does that, better open up the checkbook cause Pedro will need to get PAID. Not necessarily Johann money or contract length, but right up there. That being said, I think Pedro should end his career as Met. He would even make a good pitching coach down the road someday.
Damn. I was getting all ready to put my own projection up, and every time I kept looking up at yours (slachs) and it’s just too right. I agree with that whole line, completely.
Same here, nice prediction. In fact, he should be 19-6, but the bullpen will lose 2 for him.
I’ll take it but I’m leaning more towards 17-6 because there will be times the offense won’t be there or the pen blows a few leads, it happens.
14-8 3.50 ERA 168 innings 160 Ks
I’m with you on the slightly more conservative projections, although I dont really see Pedro being able to lose 8 games unless he makes 30+ starts.
14-6, 3.30 ERA, 165 IP, 150 K’s
correct me if im wrong but ppl were saying that elduque didnt have any life on his fastball…not pedro…sometimes i feel that i know more ab the mets then willie does…either way i’m psyched ab pedro and if he stays healthy i think he can be just close to as good as santana.
I thought it was Castro that was commenting on the life of the fastball?
It was Castro, and there has definitely been a hell of a lot of speculation about Petey’s fastball since he got here, even though my feeling is that it’s not all that relevant.
it was willie commenting on castros comments
Before you critize the comment you need to make sure. I was clearly Castro who made the comment.
before you criticize me you need to learn how to read…castro said that pedro had more life on his fastball than he did last year and then matt wrote…
Willie Randolph talked with reporters after the game about Martinez’s outing, and had the following to say regarding:…Ramon Castro’s comments that this is a different Pedro than before, as he has more life on his fastball…
“Well, wasn’t it a couple of days ago that guys were saying that he didn’t have anything on his fastball? Eh, I don’t get in to all of that stuff guys, come on. It just goes to show that when the game starts, when you’re in the game it’s a totally different mindset. you start bringing out radar guns for simulated games and you’re just wasting your time…To me, he just looked like Pedro getting ready for the season, and he looked great to me.”
…And all i was saying was that in the last few days the minor leaguers who faced el duque said that he had no life on his fastball…NOT PEDRO…and then i continued to say a comment about willie that you criticized me about and which is sometimes probably true anyway.
it was. I don’t remember seeing anything about no life on Pedro’s FB, just that the velocity might be down a little.
El Duque though seems to now through a change, and a change off his change (good thing he has the Ephus pitch!).
Actually, wasn’t that Glavine at the end of last year?
that was Glavine all the time…
Pedro has such better stuff, I wouldnt worry about his lack of speed.
I hold Pedro Martinez in extremely high esteem as a pitcher, in my book there’s never been anyone better than Petey was in his prime, and I have a great feeling about his 2008.
I’ve pretty much thrown out any considerations of his velocity since about 2002, and he has clearly pitched very effectively since then, most notably as a met in 2005, when he never even thought about throwing 90. He has such a range of speeds and pitches that the mph is pretty negligible, and his start yesterday was pretty indicative that he is comfortable throwing them all. The way he made Cabrera look on the K in the 3rd was reminiscent of old-time Pedro.
That being said, if he DOES actually touch 90-91, I’ll certainly take it.
At any rate, with the way Maine has looked and progressed, this could be a historic 1-2-3.
Yeah, if they stay healthy (and Pedro is for real), this could be a very, very strong 1-2-3. Even better, OP can fly under the radar and have a big year, with little pressure on him.
If nothing else, he will have to be about the best #4 in the league, at least based on last years output. If he clicks, you could have 4 guys that could all legitimately claim to be at least #2 quality.
If by some miracle the #5 hole doesn’t becoming a revolving door of mediocre craptitude, the rotation could easily carry the team, and let the BP stay fresh. I don’t even care if the 5 hole is 1 guy or 3 splitting time, as long as whoever has the spot doea a decent job and eats up some innings.
Pedro is exactly what Tom Glavine never was for this team. And i know Glavine won a lot of games and was the “Ace” for years here. But you never got the feeling of confidence when Glavine took the mound. To me, I dont care if Pedro has his fastball or not. The guy is just a magician and has the heart of a lion when hes on the mound. I have 100% confidence in him if he is healthy. He is just going to be a joy to watch.
I think Pedro will be fine. I just noticed that the Angels are looking for some SP depth that can go to the pen when their starters get healthy. How about Sosa? He’s looked good this spring, maybe he can get us Kendry Morales? He’s incredibly blocked and may not make the roster. He would fit nicely on the bench this season and take over for Delgado next season saving us a ton of money. If Sosa is not enough, I would be willing to throw in a AA prospect or 2.
Sosa, FM, and Jon Niese?
you tell the Angels no, right?
good, Pagan and Marlon Anderson it is!
Why would the Angels ask for that much when a player has no role on this year or next year’s team? It’s not like he’s 21 either.
I think they should hold on to Sosa for dear life as he can be a decent starter — probably better than Armas — and backups for the rotation remain a big weakness for this team. If El Duque can’t pitch with his new windup, then Pelfrey would probably be the #5, and who is there to be a backup behind him and the rest of the rotation? Sosa provides a strong safety net.
i dont know ab for dear life…but i do agree with you…unless your getting an obvious upgrade for the bench and a guy that can fill in for lf or 1b then we should keep him…he was our best guy in the pen down the stretch last year and he could obviously spot start
Pedro was fantastic yesterday. As long as he’s healthy and feeling good, I think Pedro’s gonna put up good numbers. I think in the first half of the season our starting pitching is going to carry us. If Johan doesn’t experience that NY transitional phase that so many go through, then with he and Pedro, Maine, Perez we’re going to get quality starts more times than not.
Offense still scares me. I get the feeling we’re going to struggle to get runs early consistently. With Reyes, Wright, and a healthy Beltran. that should be enough, but I think the Mets are going to have to play alot of small ball early until Alou comes back or we get help from a trade. I’m starting to feel good about the pitching, though, and as long as we have that then we’re going to be good.
how much does the surgery pedro had effect his velocity?Im just wondering what other pitchers have had the same surgery and the outcome of it.
on another note i hope the mets make their 1st 3 picks in the 2008 draft good ones!