Comments on: News: El Duque throws Sim-Game

By: sincekindergarten

sincekindergarten — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:41:31 +0000

What I mean by that is changing speeds . . . Look how long Tom Glavine has lasted with a low-80s fastball and a change in the low 70s. Throw in his slurve and eephus pitch and you might have something.

By: reyesrules

reyesrules — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:28:30 +0000

Maybe El Duque can just sit out the first few months, let Pelfrey develop, and then be an effective 7th inning reliever down the stretch and for the playoffs.

these games are being won in the 7th and 8th innings so I would like to see his experience in that role, and save his arm. wasnt he a great reliever in chicago a few years ago?

LETS GO METS!!!

p.s. i have my fantasy draft tomorrow. please get the first pick so i can get Reyes…..if not, hello Mr. Wright!

By: Necciai27

Necciai27 — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:12:29 +0000

With El Duque’s pitch arsenal, you truthfully don’t NEED him throwing much in excess of 85 mph. Before I get laughed off, his breaking stuff is actually quite similar to 1950’s-1960’s reliever Stu Miller (Cardinals, Giants, Orioles primarily) where it was incredibly slow but had so much movement it didn’t matter. Miller was an incredible rarirty, though…he generally threw in the low-mid 60’s and had mind-blowing (if not radar gun-blowing) movement on his changeup and slow forkball. Also, while he never threw an eephus, Miller would occassionally fire off a “reverse change-up”…he’d dial his fastball up to 80 mph or so after the hitters started adjusting for his mind-bogglingly slow speeds. It was pretty straight, but it kept hitters off balance.

El Duque’s changeup has a TON of movement, to say nothing of the three different breaking pitches he throws. I’d think if he scrapped his fastball altogether (unless as with Miller he threw it as a “reverse change”) and kept changing arm angles, he may have a successful career like Miller.

By: gottabeliev4evr

gottabeliev4evr — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:02:30 +0000

Tell me: how many seasons did it take Koufax and Glavine? Look up their records. Two “seasons” ( wouldn’t refer to a bunch of starts as a season) does not necessarily make or break a good or even a great ML pitcher. Pelfrey may end up as a great one, a good one, or a not-so-good one, but you have to be more patient.

By: Lets go Mets

Lets go Mets — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:14:30 +0000

I don’t know why we’re putting up with this nonsense. He’s an old fort and isn’y worth discussing. It’s not like he’s done anything valuable to us in the past. Who’s he to say he doesn’t want to pitch in the pen!?! Bring in the youth!!!

By: VCarver

VCarver — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:48:43 +0000

I’m not sure what he does when there are men on base, but since every single report said the Mets were teaching him a “new” delivery and even had quotes from Peterson regarding this new delivery it doesn’t make sense that it would simply be the same one he’s been using all his life when men are on base.

So it would appear to be a brand new windup.

By: therealsince86

therealsince86 — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:41:10 +0000

Elduque will be Elduque. He will be ready and pitch well. Then he will get a random injury. At that point Pelfrey has to prove his worth. I am much more worried about Pelfrey than Elduque.

By: upstatemet

upstatemet — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:20:33 +0000

again, another old player we should of never resigned. That’s something this team loves to do. JeriMetrics

By: metz1

metz1 — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:15:00 +0000

IM hoping the mets draft a young pitcher named tim melville 1st if hes available at the 18th pick.

By: metz1

metz1 — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:09:02 +0000

Anyone notice that cutter dykstra is one of the top high school prospects in the draft? hes lennys son! nails jr!