Matthew Cerrone

News: Brewers Release Claudio Vargas
By Matthew Cerrone - Mar 25, 2008 3:28 pm

The Brewers have released RHP Claudio Vargas, according to Tom Haudricourt at his blog for the Journal Sentinel.

Vargas has already cleared waivers, reports Haudricourt, who believes the Brewers may save money on Vargas’s contract be releasing him today.

Vargas, 29, was 11-6 with a 5.09 ERA in 29 games for the Brewers last season, during which he started 23 games.

His ERA has gone up in each of his last three seasons.

…the Brewers fans are freaking out in the comment’s section of haudricourt’s post…they understand moving him, but they cannot understand why he was simply released and not traded…my answer would be: because no team wanted to trade for him, otherwise i am sure he would have been traded…this would suggest vargas may not have as much value as people think

i am certain a slew of Mets fans will announce that vargas will make for a better fifth starter than what the Mets have…i’m not sure he will…he might…but i don’t know that he will…again, he may be better than Nelson Figeuroa, he might not…who knows…he’s far from a sure thing, which will likely be the case with any potential number five starter, including Mike Pelfrey or Orlando Hernandezlike with the rest of these players we keep reading about, i’d welcome vargas to the Mets assuming he is not guarenteed a roster spot…otherwise, i’d pass

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Comment by Hit The Weights Zeile
2008-03-25 15:33:59

ok so basically this guy is better than what we had at the 5th spot last year and if he does exactly the same thing this year would probably be better than whatever option we have currently at 5

 
Comment by NoPepperGames
2008-03-25 15:37:59

I don’t think a 5+ ERA will work out too well on this team.

Comment by Hit The Weights Zeile
2008-03-25 16:15:59

tell that to 15 game winner steve trachsel

Comment by NoPepperGames
2008-03-25 17:23:51

Uhhhhh…last I checked Steve Traschel wasn’t on the team right now.

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Comment by metsftw
2008-03-25 21:24:05

*bangs head into wall repeatedly*

 
 
 
Comment by TilMetsDoUsPart
2008-03-25 21:21:50

Although his ERA was high, defense makes a lot of difference. Vargas could benefit highly from a better defense like that of the Mets, which would bring the hits down, and Shea could knock off some of those homers. If he were a Mets starter, I’d predict that his ERA would head to the low 4s.

While Pelfrey is perfectly fine, I don’t think it’s a horrible idea to send him down to AAA to make sure he doesn’t tip his pitches and give Claudio a shot.

 
 
Comment by wease1013
2008-03-25 15:38:22

Yes i think he would be a good fit as our #5 no reason not to get him in my opinion. It seems like pelfrey just doest have what it takes, i hope i eat those words

 
Comment by davey_and_themets
2008-03-25 15:40:37

i’ go for it, gives us some depth..maybe he will have a dip in era at shea

 
Comment by Jayperez
2008-03-25 15:43:31

id say if he doesnt cost too much yea sure lets pick him up. We could definatly use the depth. Hopefully rick can fix em up and lower that era a bit and that would be acceptable for our #5 starter.

 
Comment by sincekindergarten
2008-03-25 15:43:55

I’d be up for it, too. Only for the starter depth. Thing is, El Deadguy will pitch better his next start in ST.

Comment by Jayperez
2008-03-25 15:49:29

I hope sooooo he by default is getting that job until he goes on the DL. We need another season like last season from him when at one point he was our best pitcher. I dont know if the new delivery will do the trick though, but YA GOTTA BELIEVE right!?

Comment by sincekindergarten
2008-03-25 15:55:04

I think he’ll hit 86-87 mph next start, myself. If he’s got command of that slurve, watch out. We could have five gems (the SPs) to start the season with.

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Comment by TilMetsDoUsPart
2008-03-25 21:23:33

Was that a joke?
I hope it was.

Hernandez would be the biggest waste of a rotation spot I’ve ever seen. I thought he was above average last year, but COME ON!!! El Duque is terrible!!

 
Comment by metsftw
2008-03-25 21:25:37

115 ERA+ and a 1.17 WHIP are very much above average. of course, he only gave up 109 hits in 150 IP, so luck was certainly on his side last year.

 
Comment by TilMetsDoUsPart
2008-03-25 21:28:56

Well yes, this is what I meant commenting about last year, but he’s ANOTHER year older, suffered from a MAJOR injury, just changed his ENTIRE delivery and lost quite a few on his fastball. It doesn’t add up any more.

Hernandez and Delgado are lost causes. The Mets should just move on from them ASAP.

 
 
 
 
Comment by sylvan
2008-03-25 15:50:35

If he’ll take a minor league assignment? Absolutely. If not, he’s of little use to us unless we’re sure that El Duque is well and truly toast. A reasonably healthy El Duque can be a top-notch major league pitcher, and Claudio Vargas….can’t.

Comment by TilMetsDoUsPart
2008-03-25 21:27:00

I wouldn’t say that. Considering how much defense and park dimensions matter, if something goes right for Vargas he could be a top of the rotation starter. He has just as much potential as Maine or Perez and he didn’t exactly get a break last year pitching in Milwaukee. With Shea being a pitchers’ park and a the Mets having a solid defense, Vargas could do fine here. He was very good for the first for months of the 2007 season as well.

 
 
Comment by vitto79
2008-03-25 15:50:57

Omar is the type to fine tune the roster

Sooo Matt Murton would be nice…………for Gotay makes sense………oh and if Gotay is on waivers why is he playing today?????

Al Reyes is not a bad options as the 5th starter either

Duque hits the DL and Pelfrey hits AAA and more importantly it gives depth to the pitching which is what they need in the minors

Comment by kandiman
2008-03-25 16:07:55

I am assuming you mean Anthony Reyes from STL. And no he is not a good option, the guy may be the worst starter in the NL. either him or Rick Van Den Hurk.

The guy went 2-14 with a 6+ era. I think he started out 0-12 too. We would be better off having Fred Wilpon start every 5th day

 
 
Comment by Gland
2008-03-25 15:58:52

Can anyone point me to an article that says Gotay was put on waivers? Both of the links that were posted only referred to Register.

Comment by shea_guevara
2008-03-25 16:05:31

On today’s broadcast, Kevin Burkhardt said that was not confirmed by the Mets, so maybe it’s just a rumor. It’d be a very odd rumor to start, but there you go.

Comment by Gland
2008-03-25 16:12:43

Cool, thanks!

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Comment by m00kie
2008-03-25 17:54:41

I thought I heard them say register on waivers was a rumor too. Gotay played in the game today too so ??

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Comment by zen
2008-03-25 16:03:15

any signing that doesn’t involve trading kids from the system is fine.

 
Comment by vitto79
2008-03-25 16:04:24

Yea Gotay sure looks like he is on the team to me……..he is playing 2B right now……………..I am fine with him on the team too……………..but if they can get Murton I am good with that too

 
Comment by oleosmirf
2008-03-25 16:16:10

if Vargas wants to go to AAA and wants to earn a spot on the team thats great but i’m sure someone will give him a shot right away

 
Comment by CitizenSnips
2008-03-25 16:17:51

Vargas was on the Expos/Nationals at one point. Minaya’s gonna probably pick this guy up.

Comment by Metsie
2008-03-25 16:35:31

Ding. Ding. DIng.

You hit it right on the head.
He’s and former Expo/National and he’s Latino.

2 for the price of 1…right in Omar’s wheelhouse. If Vargas was over 35, he’d be the ultimate Minaya pickup.

Comment by m00kie
2008-03-25 17:55:22

actually, the ultimate minaya pickup’s name was Johann Santana…stop the hate.

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Comment by dykstraw
2008-03-25 16:19:23

i think peterson could fix vargas right up. i like him. pelfrey needs more seasoning and duque looks shot as a starter.

what are the preseason waiver priority rules?

Comment by dykstraw
2008-03-25 16:43:10

nevermind, says he CLEARED waivers.

i don’t see how you don’t roll the dice on a guy like this.

 
 
Comment by Hit The Weights Zeile
2008-03-25 16:19:41

i really think getting matt murton would be a fantastic move, though i dont see how he would ONLY cost gotay. i know alot of people like gotay but really what value does the guy have? hell if we could trade for matt murton using gotay and possibly a very low single a prospect id be thrilled i just dont see how gotay pulls that much weight in a deal.

 
Comment by CaseStreet
2008-03-25 16:20:13

Pass.

 
Comment by dave27
2008-03-25 16:23:25

How many awful pitchers named Vargas are we looking to get?

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