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According to WFAN’s Ed Coleman, the Mets have placed Ruben Gotay on waivers.
Meanwhile, According to the Daily News and the Bergen Record, the Mets have also placed RHP Steven Register on waivers.
…i believe gotay will clear waivers, and be returned to the Mets, who like his bat, but worry about his defense…and now with the ankle injury, plus being out of options, i just can’t see how another team will pick him up…
…i’m worried, though, because i like gotay a lot…yes, i understand he has struggled on defense…but his bat is hard to deny, and too good to just throw away…
In seven appearances this spring for the Mets, Register has allowed four runs, no walks and 12 hits while striking out six in eight innings.
…from what i can gather, here’s how this will work…if register is not claimed in the next two days, he must be offered back to the Rockies…if the Rockies pass, he returns to the Mets and can be put in their minor-league system…however, if the Rockies accept him back, he’s on the Rockies, but can go back to the Mets if the two sides can work out a trade…lastly, if he is claimed off waivers, the team who claims register will get him…
…man, Brian Stokes and Joe Smith are really surging towards the 25–man roster it appears…so, if the Mets prefer stokes, with only one open slot in the pen, the move to put register on waivers was really their only option i guess…good luck…
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Somebody explain the Register move. Anybody???
When you have a Rule V guy who you’re not keeping on your roster, you first put him on waivers and see if another team will claim him, and then offer him back to the original team. If no one else takes him, you get to keep him.
I’m much more concerned that they’re putting Gotay on waivers. That dude can flat-out hit, and the fact that they’re trotting out Luis Castillo every day this year instead of him makes me miserable. Castillo’s defense is not what it was — it’s okay, not better than that — and his bat leaves much to be desired.
I get all that - but why not keep him on roster - he’s been very good this spring - and they likely will be leaving Dirty behind to continue his rehab for awhile.
Eh, I haven’t seen him pitch, but 4 runs in 8 IP with 6 Ks is not special numbers. Maybe they want to carry Figueroa?
What is this team doing putting Gotay on waivers? If the Mets didn’t like his defense then why trade Jeff Keppinger for him? I know Gotay’s defense is below average, but he’s still fairly young and the kid can hit.
For all the good Omar has done, it’s like we just throw away players like Heath Bell, Brian Bannister and now Gotay. I don’t get it??
From what I can understand, if someone bites on the waivers, the Mets can still say ‘we changed our mind, we’ll keep him on the 25′, so they might just be testing whether he’ll clear waivers.
Another possibility would be they’re seeing whether the Cubs express interest in which case they could pull him off waivers, and ask about a deal for Murton. Just a thought.
I don’t like the Gotay move either. I thought he showed enough when he was playing last year to get a shot.
Castillo is a lot like Paul lo Duca at the plate. Slap hitter, bunch of singles. I don’t like the Mets philosophy the past few years that Reyes as leadoff means you can give away outs to move him to second. Gotay is a lot more likely to smack a double which will score Reyes from first.
Somebody (I think Cerrone, forgive me if it was someone else) compared Gotay to Melvin Mora yesterday. I think that is an apt comparison. Management never gave Mora respect or a shot when he was here and look what he’s done in an O’s uniform.
Castillo’s defense is like Delgado’s offense. A memory of what once was. I don’t think Gotay is really much worse in the field than Castillo and he’s much better at the plate. He may be a bit fragile though. That’s my biggest worry with him. I don’t see how another team doesn’t give him a shot.
I would assume there is some deal that if he clears waivers he doesn’t have the Rule V Draft restriction of having to be on the major league roster for the entire season. That is just a guess. It is better to put him on waivers now in order to keep him then to let him pitch the first 2 weeks, be great, then put him on waivers when Duaner is ready.
that sounds right. If you want any chance of keeping him around in the chance he pitches well but you don’t have the space for him, you put him on waivers now, before he’s impressed other teams. That’s the only logic I see in making the move now, so it makes some sense, rather then waiting and letting other teams get a look at him. I also don’t think the Mets want to be forced to keep a guy in fear of losing him, better to figure out now if anyone else wants him. I guess that might be what they’re thinking.
Ok so I read a little on wikipedia about the Rule 5 draft. If Register clears waivers he must be offered back to the Rockies. What the page doesn’t tell is what happens if the Rockies decline to take him back.
If they decline to take him back, he’s still a Met.
The only Register loses the Rule V restrictions is if he clears waivers. Then either the Rockies take him back (and I don’t see why they wouldn’t, they don’t have to make room on their roster to reclaim him) or he becomes a Met.
If someone claims him off waivers, the Rule V obligation transfers to the new team.
“…as for register, this is confusing…”
that’s for sure.
I thought he had to go back to Colorado if the Mets didn’t keep him in the majors.
As for Gotay, I’m guessing they will pull him back off waivers if someone claims him. They could then DL him for the start of the season.
While I love rooting for young players (and had a great time pulling for Gotay last year), his 2007 was probably a bit flukey. Nothing in his minor-league career suggests that he’s a hitting maching like he was before the Castillo trade.
If Gotay is claimed and lost, it wouldn’t be a big deal in the big picture. If he’s going to amount to anything at the major-league level, he needs to play semi-regularly—for a team like the Royals, the Giants, the Pirates, etc. Right now, he’d just languish on the bench—Reyes, Wright, and Castillo are everyday players.
Players do get hurt…who backs up Reyes and Wright? Is there anyone besides Anderson Hernandez in the minors that could play SS for an extended period? I think I’d rather keep Gotay.
Gotay would be no better at short or third defensively then Damien Easley or Marlon Anderson would be…..possibly the Stache too depending on his health. Tatis is an option at third as well.
yeah, i looked at his minor league record…he really doesn’t have much time on the left side of the infield.
Maybe you should look harder at Gotay’s numbers.
2002, A-ball, age 19: .285/.377.456 with 42 doubles
2004, AA, 21: .290/.373/.441
Basically, the Royals rushed him to the majors and hurt his development a lot.
When you can only come up with 2 examples of him hitting well in the minors, none of which were in the last 3 years. There’s a problem.
He hit .256 in AAA last year, .265 the year before, .245 in AA the year before that. His history indicates he’s nothing special offensively and that last year was likely a fluke, and adding in bad defense to that he is a fringe ML’er.
‘04 doesn’t look too bad…an OPS over .800 is pretty decent…plus he is only 25.
When you can only come up with 3 examples of Castillo hitting well in the majors, none of which are in the last 2 years, then there’s a problem.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/castilu01.shtml
Let’s face it. He’s getting old. He’s nothing special defensively. At least give Gotay the chance to play. He won’t be significantly worse than Castillo, chances are he’ll be better, and there’s a chance he’ll be much better.
adropofvenom: The dude was rushed to the majors at age 21 before he was ready, and that hurt his development. Even so, he put up okay numbers in his first year in the majors. Those numbers I posted earlier showed that the guy could hit, and hit well, before the Royals screwed him up, as they’ve screwed up many of their prospects over the past decade. As a Met, he showed some pop and I saw him have a lot of quality at-bats where he worked deep counts.
“if he is claimed off waivers, the team who claims register will get him”
that’s interesting…i would have thought Colorado had first dibs, but ok. Maybe the claiming team is under the same Rule V restrictions as the Mets were - keep him in the majors or offer back to Colorado…I guess that would make sense.
Yes, the claiming team would inherit the Rule V restrictions.
So in effect, Register’s clearing waivers removes his Rule V pick status and all of those roster rules that pertain to him?
Clearing waivers would trigger the Rule V, not remove it.
That’s the point at which the Rockies would choose whether to pay the $25k and put him anywhere in their organization, or let the Mets keep him.
I can’t imagine him staying a Met.
I just hope they know what they are doing. I would like to keep register.
On a side note anybody read the Nydailynews article that says arod regrets not signing with the mets in 2000. Anybody has any thoughts on that
conseco says he introduced arod to a roids dealer at one of his parties
O…so basically we traded Brian Bannister for Ambiorix Burgos…how’s Burgos doing anyway i havent seen him in almost a year…
bannister will get lit up this year. he was incredibly lucky last year.
We’ll see. Please come back and visit us if you are wrong about that.
Burgos is recovering from Tommy John, that’s why you haven’t heard about him. I wouldn’t count on seeing him until 2009.
Basically? We straight-up traded Bannister for Burgos. Gotay was acquired for Jeff Keppinger.
Ha!!!!! That’s a point that is difficult to argue.
santana, pedro, maine, ollie, pelfrey or el duque
wagner, sanchez, heilman, feliciano, sosa, schoeneweis
that’s 11 pitchers with pelfrey going to the minors. how was register going to make the roster? smith, figueroa (maybe 5th starter), stokes are in the running too.
mets had no choice.
Sanchez was going to start the year in extended spring training. Register was supposed to take his place. I don’t know about this move.
I would hope that it means that they think Sanchez is capable of starting the year in the Major Leagues. Either that or Joe Smith or Nelson Figueroa would have made the roster over him anyways.