Comments on: inGame: Minaya On-Air during Game http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117961 therealsince86 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:56:48 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117961 I would offer Elduque the Sele role. If he does not take it then time to go. He should know that chances are if he takes the Sele role then there will be times that we have to use him as a starter. I still think the trade is Gotay and Show for Murton and Marquis. The Cubs need Show and would save 8 million dollars. Also they are looking for help at 2nd base after the Roberts deal fell through. I would offer Elduque the Sele role. If he does not take it then time to go. He should know that chances are if he takes the Sele role then there will be times that we have to use him as a starter.
I still think the trade is Gotay and Show for Murton and Marquis.
The Cubs need Show and would save 8 million dollars. Also they are looking for help at 2nd base after the Roberts deal fell through.

]]> By: metinDC23 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117957 metinDC23 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:26:25 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117957 Trading for those 2 guys sounds good- but do people seriously think anyone would want Duque? No way. If we trade for Marquis Duque's gotta retire or be waived- no ones taking him for more than a bag of cherios. Trading for those 2 guys sounds good- but do people seriously think anyone would want Duque? No way. If we trade for Marquis Duque’s gotta retire or be waived- no ones taking him for more than a bag of cherios.

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117948 therealsince86 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:39:45 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117948 How would that help things? Church will be a better hitter this year and we would still need a catcher and an OF. Now we only need an OF to replace Alou, something we would have needed either way. I How would that help things? Church will be a better hitter this year and we would still need a catcher and an OF. Now we only need an OF to replace Alou, something we would have needed either way. I

]]> By: Another Matt http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117943 Another Matt Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:11:07 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117943 Jason Marquis has had an ERA+ better than 100 for 3 of the last 4 seasons, including last year. That makes him a league average pitcher. Not a league average 5, a league average 1-5. Steve Trachsel's ERA+s for the last three years have been 99, 88 and 94. If you'd take Trachsel over Marquis, it's a very good thing you're not a GM. Also, for 2006, not only did Marquis not have the highest ERA in the NL... he didn't have the highest ERA of Cardinals starters (Marquis 6.02, Mulder 7.14) Last year he had a 4.60 ERA pitching half his games in the second most pitcher-friendly ground in the Majors. Last 4 years, Marquis has averaged 201 IP a year. El Duque's owed very nearly as much as Marquis this year, and has averaged 110 IP over the last 4 years. Duque + Show + cash for Murton + Marquis would make a ton of sense for this club, even if we throw Gotay in too. You're nuts. Jason Marquis has had an ERA+ better than 100 for 3 of the last 4 seasons, including last year.

That makes him a league average pitcher. Not a league average 5, a league average 1-5.

Steve Trachsel’s ERA+s for the last three years have been 99, 88 and 94. If you’d take Trachsel over Marquis, it’s a very good thing you’re not a GM.

Also, for 2006, not only did Marquis not have the highest ERA in the NL… he didn’t have the highest ERA of Cardinals starters (Marquis 6.02, Mulder 7.14)

Last year he had a 4.60 ERA pitching half his games in the second most pitcher-friendly ground in the Majors.

Last 4 years, Marquis has averaged 201 IP a year.

El Duque’s owed very nearly as much as Marquis this year, and has averaged 110 IP over the last 4 years.

Duque + Show + cash for Murton + Marquis would make a ton of sense for this club, even if we throw Gotay in too.

You’re nuts.

]]> By: vitto79 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117923 vitto79 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:56:17 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117923 Haha,,,,,,,,,it was more of addition by subtraction if we dealt Show and Duque for Marquis and Murton..........really Murton is the only one of value there But in all seriousness they don't have to do a thing............they have a great top 4 and Duque is not dead............let's see what he does tommorow and oh yea Pelfrey is not horrific either folks...........if he blows in the yr then talk to me Sosa is a good option aswell...............he filled in nicely last yr I would expect Vargas to come in...........it's a Omar move................and Murton makes alot of sense............he needs to get the heck out of Chicago, they don't give him a fair shot Haha,,,,,,,,,it was more of addition by subtraction if we dealt Show and Duque for Marquis and Murton……….really Murton is the only one of value there

But in all seriousness they don’t have to do a thing…………they have a great top 4 and Duque is not dead…………let’s see what he does tommorow and oh yea Pelfrey is not horrific either folks………..if he blows in the yr then talk to me

Sosa is a good option aswell……………he filled in nicely last yr

I would expect Vargas to come in………..it’s a Omar move…………….and Murton makes alot of sense…………he needs to get the heck out of Chicago, they don’t give him a fair shot

]]> By: mackey_sassers_arm http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117920 mackey_sassers_arm Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:42:42 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117920 Brian Cashman and Theo Epstein have both been on record saying that they had offers for Santana at the time the twins decided to send him to the mets. Salty isn't a short term fix. He can help this team in '08 and for several years to come. And yes, I would rather have Salty in the organization than any 3 or 4 arms we have in the minors. Salty was up when he was traded. The reason the braves made the trade was that they thought they had a chance to win last year and went for it. It didn't work out. As mentioned by someone else earlier, Salty wasn't even the centerpiece of the deal. Brian Cashman and Theo Epstein have both been on record saying that they had offers for Santana at the time the twins decided to send him to the mets.

Salty isn’t a short term fix. He can help this team in ’08 and for several years to come. And yes, I would rather have Salty in the organization than any 3 or 4 arms we have in the minors.

Salty was up when he was traded. The reason the braves made the trade was that they thought they had a chance to win last year and went for it. It didn’t work out. As mentioned by someone else earlier, Salty wasn’t even the centerpiece of the deal.

]]> By: slowhand422 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117916 slowhand422 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:11:47 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117916 If you want Jason Marquis, especially with 2 more years at 7 million a year, you are completely insane. Murton I'd take, but as far as Marquis goes, try again. (Getting Murton and Marquis would be your dream trade?) I can think of 20 pitchers than can be had that we would want before Jason Marquis. Urgh...yikes. Give me Sosa, El Duque, Pelfrey, a prospect, hell, give me Steve fracking Trachsel over Jason Marquis. (did you know he had the highest ERA in the national league in 2006 and was left off the postseason roster against the Mets...just like he is every year.) If you want Jason Marquis, especially with 2 more years at 7 million a year, you are completely insane.

Murton I’d take, but as far as Marquis goes, try again.

(Getting Murton and Marquis would be your dream trade?)

I can think of 20 pitchers than can be had that we would want before Jason Marquis.

Urgh…yikes. Give me Sosa, El Duque, Pelfrey, a prospect, hell, give me Steve fracking Trachsel over Jason Marquis. (did you know he had the highest ERA in the national league in 2006 and was left off the postseason roster against the Mets…just like he is every year.)

]]> By: Gina http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117908 Gina Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:56:50 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117908 They liked our package better because the only other package on the table was the rangers, or the astros, one of those texas teams, and Johan told them he wasn't very enthusiastic about playing for them, and since any trade would have required Santana to sign a long extension we were practically the only option. And you're basically saying we should trade the few arms we have left in the minors for a player who wouldn't play every day. Do you not see how that's not rational at all. And if Atlanta thought he was decent at 1B, why wouldn't they have just called him up rather than trading him for a rental at first base? They liked our package better because the only other package on the table was the rangers, or the astros, one of those texas teams, and Johan told them he wasn’t very enthusiastic about playing for them, and since any trade would have required Santana to sign a long extension we were practically the only option.

And you’re basically saying we should trade the few arms we have left in the minors for a player who wouldn’t play every day. Do you not see how that’s not rational at all.

And if Atlanta thought he was decent at 1B, why wouldn’t they have just called him up rather than trading him for a rental at first base?

]]> By: vitto79 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117907 vitto79 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:53:42 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117907 Hmmmm Marquis is owed quite a bit but the Cubbies would eat some of that I am sure..............and it would get them a lefty reliever and get Schoenweiss away from the Mets pen.......... Does make sense.............and Murton makes big time sense Now I may be on crack thinking about his but if Marquis makes 15 million under his contract ..........the Cubs could take Duque and Schoenweiss back for Murton and Marquis That is my dream trade,hah Hmmmm Marquis is owed quite a bit but the Cubbies would eat some of that I am sure…………..and it would get them a lefty reliever and get Schoenweiss away from the Mets pen……….

Does make sense………….and Murton makes big time sense

Now I may be on crack thinking about his but if Marquis makes 15 million under his contract ……….the Cubs could take Duque and Schoenweiss back for Murton and Marquis

That is my dream trade,hah

]]> By: Lightweis http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117905 Lightweis Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:52:30 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/ingame-minaya-on-air-during-game/#comment-117905 I'll give it to HTWZ, Murtinez was funny because it sounds like Martinez. That and he's a regular poster who contributes to this site daily. Everyone chill out. I’ll give it to HTWZ, Murtinez was funny because it sounds like Martinez.

That and he’s a regular poster who contributes to this site daily. Everyone chill out.

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