Comments on: Note: Tatis and Stokes, not Register and Ruben http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-tatis-and-stokes-not-register-and-ruben/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:21:25 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Nate W. http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-tatis-and-stokes-not-register-and-ruben/#comment-117560 Nate W. Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:50:35 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-who-is-and-isnt-on-waivers/#comment-117560 re: Super Joe. They do have Anderson Machado at AAA if you want someone who can play all over and hit .190 re: Super Joe. They do have Anderson Machado at AAA if you want someone who can play all over and hit .190

]]> By: Nate W. http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-tatis-and-stokes-not-register-and-ruben/#comment-117556 Nate W. Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:48:30 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-who-is-and-isnt-on-waivers/#comment-117556 Marlon is also a backup at 1B and maybe maybe 2B. He is somewhat redundant defensively, but you have to carry a guy who can PH like Marlon Anderson can. Guys like Tatis and Clark allow Easley to remain on the bench availiable to PH. If Easley is getting starts against LHP's then the Mets are weak in the PH game those days, so I much prefer him on the bench. Reyes will be playing almost every inning until Sept 1st when they can call up AH. Marlon is also a backup at 1B and maybe maybe 2B.

He is somewhat redundant defensively, but you have to carry a guy who can PH like Marlon Anderson can.

Guys like Tatis and Clark allow Easley to remain on the bench availiable to PH. If Easley is getting starts against LHP’s then the Mets are weak in the PH game those days, so I much prefer him on the bench.

Reyes will be playing almost every inning until Sept 1st when they can call up AH.

]]> By: ExileInLA http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-tatis-and-stokes-not-register-and-ruben/#comment-117542 ExileInLA Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:34:55 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-who-is-and-isnt-on-waivers/#comment-117542 Easley is the only backup at 2B & SS? That's scary... It's looking like 13 position players, by position/depth chart (injured players in [ ]): C: Schneider - [Castro] - Casanova 1B: Delgado - Easley - Tatis 2B: Castillo - Easley 3B: Wright - Tatis - Easley SS: Reyes - Easley LF: [Alou] - Chavez - - Anderson CF: Beltran - Chavez RF: Church - Pagan Marlon Anderson seems to be taking up space, a la Julio Franco. I'd much rather have a more reliable IF glove than Easley, especially if he could be an emergency catcher. Where's Super Joe when we need him? Easley is the only backup at 2B & SS? That’s scary…

It’s looking like 13 position players, by position/depth chart (injured players in [ ]):

C: Schneider – [Castro] – Casanova
1B: Delgado – Easley – Tatis
2B: Castillo – Easley
3B: Wright – Tatis – Easley
SS: Reyes – Easley
LF: [Alou] – Chavez – – Anderson
CF: Beltran – Chavez
RF: Church – Pagan

Marlon Anderson seems to be taking up space, a la Julio Franco. I’d much rather have a more reliable IF glove than Easley, especially if he could be an emergency catcher. Where’s Super Joe when we need him?

]]> By: gomets6091 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-tatis-and-stokes-not-register-and-ruben/#comment-117530 gomets6091 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:25:35 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-who-is-and-isnt-on-waivers/#comment-117530 I remember a time back in '99 when Tatis was the "next big thing" and everyone was convinced he was gonna be a star. Boy how wrong people were back then... I remember a time back in ‘99 when Tatis was the “next big thing” and everyone was convinced he was gonna be a star. Boy how wrong people were back then…

]]> By: Nate W. http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-tatis-and-stokes-not-register-and-ruben/#comment-117478 Nate W. Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:52:49 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-who-is-and-isnt-on-waivers/#comment-117478 To be fair, Tatis has hit decently well in AAA the last two years. his 31 doubles, 5 triples, and 21 homers for the Zephers last year in 497 AB's suggest he still has the pop he had in the bigs, but with 103 strikeouts it seems that hole in his swing is still there.. and the 844 OPS isnt that impressive for AAA. I think Clark and Tatis will both make the roster as right side counters to Endy and Marlon Anderson. I would be inclined to keep Gotay over Easley, but that leaves a lot of good bat / iron gloves on the IF bench. To be fair, Tatis has hit decently well in AAA the last two years.

his 31 doubles, 5 triples, and 21 homers for the Zephers last year in 497 AB’s suggest he still has the pop he had in the bigs, but with 103 strikeouts it seems that hole in his swing is still there.. and the 844 OPS isnt that impressive for AAA.

I think Clark and Tatis will both make the roster as right side counters to Endy and Marlon Anderson. I would be inclined to keep Gotay over Easley, but that leaves a lot of good bat / iron gloves on the IF bench.

]]> By: ohboy http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-tatis-and-stokes-not-register-and-ruben/#comment-117467 ohboy Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:25:12 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-who-is-and-isnt-on-waivers/#comment-117467 After people like Jose Valentin, Endy Chavez, Ramon Castro, Damian Easley, Marlon Anderson became contributors off of the bench, I have stopped overanalyzing these names. Does anyone remember Endy Chavez fighting with Tike Redman for a roster spot that spring? At that point, did you really care? Fernando Tatis...why not After people like Jose Valentin, Endy Chavez, Ramon Castro, Damian Easley, Marlon Anderson became contributors off of the bench, I have stopped overanalyzing these names.

Does anyone remember Endy Chavez fighting with Tike Redman for a roster spot that spring? At that point, did you really care?

Fernando Tatis…why not

]]> By: MetFaninDaBronx http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-tatis-and-stokes-not-register-and-ruben/#comment-117461 MetFaninDaBronx Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:17:03 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-who-is-and-isnt-on-waivers/#comment-117461 If Gotay is lost it will be a numbers game, not because the Mets wouldn't prefer to keep him. I have thought that the best thing to do with Gotay would be to have him work in the outfield and first base as well as the middle infield. I understand that defense is the issue, but often with a true utility player passable defense is acceptable. It’s a shame he didn't have more time to make the team. I know it’s a luxury to be obsessing over the 25th spot on the roster, but I have this sinking (and perhaps irrational) feeling that if the Mets lose Gotay like this, he is going to establish himself elsewhere. If I was in Omar’s position, I would explore putting Gotay on the DL and assigning him to extended Spring Training. I understand he is better, but if his ankle is still not 100%, I think you could DL him in good faith. Who knows what the situation will be in a few weeks? If Gotay is lost it will be a numbers game, not because the Mets wouldn’t prefer to keep him. I have thought that the best thing to do with Gotay would be to have him work in the outfield and first base as well as the middle infield. I understand that defense is the issue, but often with a true utility player passable defense is acceptable. It’s a shame he didn’t have more time to make the team.

I know it’s a luxury to be obsessing over the 25th spot on the roster, but I have this sinking (and perhaps irrational) feeling that if the Mets lose Gotay like this, he is going to establish himself elsewhere.

If I was in Omar’s position, I would explore putting Gotay on the DL and assigning him to extended Spring Training. I understand he is better, but if his ankle is still not 100%, I think you could DL him in good faith. Who knows what the situation will be in a few weeks?

]]> By: gowrightgo http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-tatis-and-stokes-not-register-and-ruben/#comment-117453 gowrightgo Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:55:58 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-who-is-and-isnt-on-waivers/#comment-117453 Ferragamo...I'd guess the answer to your question of why get rid of a guy who has upside vs similarly talented guys who are reclamation projects and have no more upside is that the METS see the needs of the club differently than you or I do. All things being equal...Tatis is likely a better RH hitter and slightly better defender than Gotay in their eyes right now. They play similar positions. Plus...I guess they do not see as much upside as we may want to see in Gotay. Remember..they see him in practice and working every day. We only see the games. They know he has deficiencies and must think he is not getting any better at correcting them. This assumes the Gotay rumor is accurate Ferragamo…I’d guess the answer to your question of why get rid of a guy who has upside vs similarly talented guys who are reclamation projects and have no more upside is that the METS see the needs of the club differently than you or I do. All things being equal…Tatis is likely a better RH hitter and slightly better defender than Gotay in their eyes right now.

They play similar positions.

Plus…I guess they do not see as much upside as we may want to see in Gotay. Remember..they see him in practice and working every day. We only see the games. They know he has deficiencies and must think he is not getting any better at correcting them.

This assumes the Gotay rumor is accurate

]]> By: Jova1931 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-tatis-and-stokes-not-register-and-ruben/#comment-117448 Jova1931 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:42:05 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-who-is-and-isnt-on-waivers/#comment-117448 This is all very confusing. But then again, there is no official word that says Gotay has been put on waivers. But it makes little sense, unless there's some attitude/personal issues the public isn't aware of. The Register thing has been confusing from the get. Considering Stokes has been horrible, and Duaner isn't going to start the season with the Mets, why play with bullpen help? Very confusing. This is all very confusing. But then again, there is no official word that says Gotay has been put on waivers. But it makes little sense, unless there’s some attitude/personal issues the public isn’t aware of.
The Register thing has been confusing from the get. Considering Stokes has been horrible, and Duaner isn’t going to start the season with the Mets, why play with bullpen help?
Very confusing.

]]> By: Ferragamo http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-tatis-and-stokes-not-register-and-ruben/#comment-117445 Ferragamo Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:34:03 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/03/26/note-who-is-and-isnt-on-waivers/#comment-117445 The whole point is why get rid of a 25 year old kid, who can obviously hit and has some potential for reclamation projects in Tatis, 33 or Clark, 34. The decision makes no sense, just becuase Gotay got hurt he's being penalized for it. Why give up on Gotay at this point? The whole point is why get rid of a 25 year old kid, who can obviously hit and has some potential for reclamation projects in Tatis, 33 or Clark, 34.
The decision makes no sense, just becuase Gotay got hurt he’s being penalized for it. Why give up on Gotay at this point?

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