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According to Adam Rubin, at his blog for the Daily News, Ruben Gotay was told by the Mets that he has been put on waivers.
To hear from Gotay, who says his sprained ankle is fine, check out Rubin’s report.
Gotay, with tears in his eyes, as quoted by Newsday:
“I did a good job and didn’t deserve this.”
…this stinks, because i like gotay…sure, he is not the best defensive player in the league, far from it, but he can hit…
In 190 at-bats for the Mets last season, Gotay hit .290 with 16 extra base hits.
However, he hit just .194 in 36 at-bats against left-handed pitchers, compared to hitting .318 against righties.
…this, plus the ankle, plus being out of options, plus his defense, is why gotay may end up on another team…which is a real shame…especially since Fernando Tatis will likely make the squad instead…which is not to say tatis is a bad player, it’s just that gotay is young, and a strong hitter, with an upside…whereas, tatis is what he is…
…hopefully, ruben clears waivers - for much of the same reasons he was put on waivers - and ends up back with the Mets…
For what it’s worth, Gotay was designated for assignment in February, 2007, and cleared waivers.
He was acquired from the Royals during 2006 for 2B Jeff Keppinger, who was cut by the Royals, and then hit .332 in 67 games for the Reds.
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It would be a shame to lose this guy. Before they re-upped Castillo I was all for starting him at 2B and letting Easley caddy him. His glove needs work, no doubt, but I like his swing. Hopefully he makes it through waivers.
excuse me everyone…
Fernando Tatis better be a gold glover defensive player after all this nonsense
Tatis plays first, second, third and the outfield. He’s an average fielder, but his versatility makes him more valuable than Gotay (so the argument goes).
Tatis does not play all of those positions. He’s a career third baseman. Look at the numbers.
He is a career 3B, but he’s at least been tried at the ML level in LF, RF, 2B, SS and 1B. Granted, I’m talking about a total of 70 innings or so combined, but obviously someone thinks he’s versatile enough to man those spots. Didn’t we even hear Minaya say yesterday that he liked Tatis because of his pop and his versatility?
Yeah, Minaya said that. But i think he’s full of crap. Tatis isn’t a particularly gifted athlete, his best days are behind him, and yet he’s going to learn a bunch of new positions on the fly and be productive at the same time?
Someone like Easley is a much better athlete and much better suited to take on a utility role later in his career. Tatis is portly and not that productive anymore.
I don’t necessarily disagree that a versatile RH with some pop off the bench is probably more valuable than Gotay. If Easley can play SS, then yeah, I would love to have that player on the bench.
The problem is, Tatis is not that player. He’s not even close. It’s not worth the cost of carrying him. And we just got older, yet again.
Did you think that Valentin was that player when we signed him? Give Tatis a chance.
The older part has got to stop. Tatis is not that old and what does it matter if your bench is old? They don’t have a future with the team either way. Every teams bench changes year to year. It’s not like we are grooming him to take someone’s spot.
Valentin was a MUCH better player than Tatis over his career. And he’s a MUCH better athlete than Tatis. It’s not a good comparison.
Career OPS+:
Tatis: 99
Valentin: 96
It seems reasonable to me.
More than 20% of Tatis’ career OPS is generated from his 1999 season at the age of 24. He posted a 139 OPS+ that year. He’s been legitimately awful besides that.
And he’s a prime suspect for juicing.
Agreed in general.
Does not have to be because he adds other things to the team. He can play more than one position including 3B/1B and OF well. He can hit RH. Those are 2 things the Mets need that Gotay can’t do.
if he cleared waivers…could he come up and down between AAA all year or would he have to pass waivers again or simply must stay in either AAA or at the big league level.
Im confused
he would just need to pass through waivers once.
after which he could then be jockeyed up and down between AAA and ML if need be?
yep, just once per year and then it is as if he still has options remaining. I also think that it would make him eligible to be traded after 7/31, but I am not positive if he would have to pass through again for that.
your the best. Thanks for educating me
Not quite - he can be moved about until the end of the “waiver period”
Looks like that ends on the trade deadline - July 31st
OK, I just double checked the official rule-
There are 3 different time periods during the season for waivers: 11/11 through the 30th day of the season, 31st day of the season through 7/31, and 8/1 through 11/10.
I think this means that in order to send down a player without options like Gotay within the first month of the season, he would need to clear waivers now. If he opens the year on the ML roster and they want to send him down after the first month, he would need to clear again, and if they want to trade him after 7/31 he would need to clear at that time.
If anyone else knows if I am right or not, please let us know, but that is the best I can interpret.
Donald Fehr working his magic. What a piece of sht that guy is.
This is a bad move IMO.
Start Gotay on the DL… See what develops… Tatis doesn’t do anything for me…
Unless the Dodgers announce Chan Ho Park is on their team. Then Tatis is the best player in the world for that one day.
Heh put him in the clean up spot then.
You know..this is a very good point. He’s got a sprained ankle or whatever, claim it’s worse than it is, put him on the DL..it’s a lot safer. But of course, there is something deeper going on, and him opening his mouth is not a good thing in this place.
I like Gotay, but I don’t see it as a great loss.
He’s a good hitter in short work, but put him there for 600 ABs, i think he’d be exposed….
What does that have to do with keeping Tatis over him? Tatis sucks and has no upside.
“Sucks” is a terrific argument…
How about the split stats Matt posted? under .200 as a righty hitter for a heavy lefty team?! I think THAT is the common sense needed here…not some forlorn feelings for a young kid doesn’t light it up from the side of the plate we would need him for.
And PLEASE, EWM, save that horsesh*t with scneider and church (granted, you may have a point with Pagan, but he is needed more than Gotay).
Schneider has been a starter for years and he put up comparable (important) offensive numbers to the hero Paul Lo Duca.
Ryan Church is a solid hitter with much more service time than Gotay, so, your argument here is (again) weak.
Boo-hoo, a marginal player is put on waivers (not yet cut)…Omar is so stupid and i am so smart..WAAAAAA
Hmm.. a hitter being exposed when they get 600 ABs? Kinda like Schnieder? Or Church? Or Angel Freakin Pagan???
This team needs a VP of Common Sense to borrow from Bill Simmons.. countless stupid acts lead up to Gotay having no choice but to be on waivers…
Who’se gonna play SS if Reyes goes down mid game? Tatis??
It would not be Gotay any way. Easley and Tatis have as many or more innings there than Gotay.
it wouldn’t have been gotay so your argument is moot. when was the last time he played short? he can’t hit lefties which is what the mets needed.
Gotay played 5 games at short last season and started 2.
And when Gotay was healthy this spring all he played was 2nd base. The Mets do not think he is capable of being a utility player and has more value in a trade as a 2B.
I’m pretty sure I can play short if Reyes goes down mid game. Consider my services on the table. And I’ll take merely half of what Jose gets.
Hell, I’ll do it for half of what Gotay gets!
Gotay played short when Reyes came out yesterday. Also does anybody else want to tell us what Omar and the rest of the FO thinks about him or other players? I mean you guys must be the ones they call for input since you say things like they were fact. ” It would not be Gotay anyway.” “The Mets do not think he is capable of being a utility player and has more value in a trade as a 2B.” You get that from Omar himself? Willie give you a call and said this to you? Or is this all speculation like FMart has to be included in the trade for Santana? Believing something said by some sports writer or sports analyst. How about just typing “IMO” before you make such statements. Because IMO, if Gotay was able to hit right-handed as well as he does left-handed, this conversation wouldn’t be going on. He’d be the IF utility guy. But he doesn’t so that is the reason he’s on waivers, the fact he cant hit right-handed and they need the right-handed bat. Not for any reason other than that.