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The Game :
The Mets (1-0) continue their opening series with the Marlins (0-1) at Dolphin Stadium this evening, starting at 7:10 pm
The Lineup :
- SS Jose Reyes
- 2B Luis Castillo
- 3B David Wright
- CF Carlos Beltran
- 1B Carlos Delgado
- RF Ryan Church
- LF Angel Pagan
- C Brian Schneider
- SP Pedro Martinez
The Pitchers :
RHP Pedro Martinez makes his 2008 debut for the Mets. In five starts last season, Martinez was 3-1 with a 2.57 ERA. In 10 career appearances at Dolphin Stadium, Martinez is 5-2 with a 1.89 ERA. Martinez had a 2.00 ERA in two spring starts.
RHP Rick VandenHurk starts for the Marlins. In 18 appearances last season, VandenHurk was 4-6 with a 6.83 ERA. VandenHurk was hit hard in two appearances vs. the Mets last season, allowing 12 runs on 10 hits, including 4 HR, over 9 IP. He had a 4.35 ERA in six appearances this spring.
The Notes :
Carlos Beltran and Jose Reyes each homered off VandenHurk last season.
Luis Gonzalez is 16-for-44 (.364) with four doubles, a homer and five RBI vs. Martinez lifetime.
The Mets six-run fourth inning yesterday set a new franchise record for offensive output during an Opening Day inning — the club’s previous record was a five-run seventh inning vs. the Cubs in 1979.
The Bleachers :
For a live chat, head over to the Hot Foot Bleachers.
…enjoy, and as always, let’s go mets…
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1 – lets go mets! 2 – i correctly picked davidson in that thread about the tourney a few weeks ago
Was Wright batting third yesterday too?
yes.
Not a big deal but thinking Church should stay 7th cause that’s where he is when Alou gets back
I understand it’s a righty so its ok to go back to back with Delgado buuuut when a lefty comes in later Pagan would of been better there…………..oh wells I won’t complain if he smacks a early rbi double
I liked Pagan in the 6th spot. I would think he’ll get junk thrown at him with Schneider on deck.
Although Church is a power guy, Pagan I feel hits all fields.
Church is not a power guy?
He’s a gap guy, and says at Shea he’s going to be a power guy with morre hr’s.
Didn’t Pedro strike out 12 on Opening day in 05 in Cincy?
yes
Anybody having problems with MLB.tv AGAAAINNNN?!?!
i almost forgot baseball was on tonight! i’m not used to this yet.
mets usually smack this guy around pretty good. See what offense has going on tonight.
Yea yea…Im always negative. Im the 5 mins I’ve been listening to the new guy (Wayne) on the FAN I’m not impressed….
Just misprounced Amazaga’s name…..
Ahh….Heres Howie…..better…
2 run hR- uggla
there goes the no-hitter
I’m not sure I’m going to be handle watching the game from behind the plate the entire game. WTF is SunSports doing????
Oh and “And his name is STILL DAN UGGLA!!” is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard an announcer say following a HR.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Must be some wierd inside joke.
Everything about them is minor league.
Pedro just needs to settle down, here. Control issues. Reminds me of his start against the Reds last year.
I feel like this always happens, he gets knocked around a little bit early and settles right in. First start of the year too, not too much of a reason to get concerned just yet.
Let’s just hope it stops there…
The broadcasters and the quality of the camerawork are SOOOO bad on FSN Florida that I had to take the opportunity on their “email the booth” night to email them if there are sports media critic columnists at local Miami papers like in NY and that, if not, their broadcasts are prime examples of why there ought to be.
I really HATE these Marlin announcers!! If Im goona pay $229 for MLB Extra Innings I should be able to watch my teams feed?
WOW!!!! They got Delgado!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dan Uggla is built like the juicebag players of the late 90’s. I think we need a random drug test in the Marlins clubhouse.
ehh leave em alone….They need as much help as they can get….
who is this new guy with howie rose? hes horrible. i want the traitor tom mccarthy back!
this AB is a victory for MArtinez. Check pitch count on VandenHurk.
Pedro better not tire himself out on this at bat…this is hilarious.
A-Greed…
HAHAHA pedro is great
Yea Pedro….WHAT AN AB BABY!!!!
THAT is a competitor, K or no.
pedro is pissed off
bravo pedro. i hope hes not tired though
12 pitches – great ab pedro, what’s the pitch count now 55 in the 2nd inning
solo HR gonzales
WTF??
Maybe he IS tired. . . . but Gonzalez has always hit him well.
maybe I’m naive..but I’m honestly not worried>
As long as he stays healthy, there really isn’t any reason to be worried.
I feel bad for all you mlb.tv subscribers. These FSN announcers are atrocious.
Yup – have them on Extra Innings too.
Awful.
Here’s my email to them (it’s “email the booth” night):
My question has to do with the broadcast team itself:
Do the Miami newspapers have sports media critics columnists like in NY? If so, I assume they are apoplectic about the poor quality of FSN Florida’s broadcasts? That they deride the commentators blatant “homer” attitude and boosterism that includes such unprofessional and amateurish commentating as using players first names and nicknames as well as actively rooting for the home team? I also assume the local sports media critics lambaste the broadcasters’ utter inability to have even the most basic research on the other team’s players as evidenced by a comment in yesterday’s home opener that “only Alou hit well for the Mets down the stretch”? Really? Read David Wright’s stats much before a Mets series? Surely, the critics point out the shoddy camera work and college-ball level direction and the 1990’s production values?
If there are no sports media critics writing for the local Miami paper – well, your broadcasts are prime examples of why there should be.
Regards,
Mike XXXXXX
(suffering through your amateurish broadcasts via MLB Extra Innings in Portland, Oregon).
Very nice. Please tell me you’re actually sending that one in. These broadcasts are insufferable. I can’t wait until the weekend, when I get to go home and watch the games on SNY again.
Oh – they have it, they won’t answer it but they have it.
Sent similar email to the Nats broadcasters in late 2006. They wouldn’t quote my email but referenced it on air byand just said, “hey we like to have fun at the ballpark – so what if we’re blantant homers?” What amateurs.
Are the Mets the only team with decent, professional announcers? What a shame.
And…they just used MRI as a verb. As in, “Let’s MRI that” So sad.
LOL. Scully is excellent if aging with the dodgers. I mean, the guy simulcasts TV and radio – that is pretty cool. He reminds me of Murph.
Some cities arent too bad – the Milwaukee guys are okay….Cubs, etc……but Nats and Fish are particularly bad. The Reds guys, especially the play-by-play guy seemed so sad and uniterested last year, I felt bad for him.
beltran has to get his body in front of that!
I wonder if the Marlins are playing with the baseballs a la the Rockies (my pet conspiracy theory that I don’t really believe)
yep, beltran has made that mistake often. does anyone remember the jimmy rollins triple in shea last year?
These annoucers remind me of Fran Healy, “Look at Hanley run”= “And look at Reyes run.” Lol
These announcers remind me of obnoxious Marlins fans masquerading as objective announcers.
Lol, true too
There are Marlins fans?
Mets need to put a couple runs on the board here
Everyone looking a bit flat tonight.
Santana-mania hangover.
eh, they were flat the first 3 innings yesterday too, we’ll see soon, all we need is that one inning like yesterday
let’s go mets!
seriously…these announcers suck….they just got so excited over a foul ball that the camera didn’t even pan away for…
It;s like a ten year old doing play-by-play. Cute when you are ten…..pathetic when you are 30-something.
The marlins radio announcers are trying to say that Luis Castillo should be charged with an AB because they think he was trying to bunt for a hint and not to move Reyes over. Maybe ownership forces their broadcasters (TV & radio) to be homers.
I also hate how they call Castilla, “Louie.” I mean I know he is a former marlin but he is not on your team anymore, and he is not your best friend.
also, call me crazy, but isn’t it supposed to be pronounced like “louise” – same goes for Luis Gonzalez. Man these guys are awful.
They call all Marlins and ex-Marlins by their first names.
Take my lead everybody (see my email higher up in this thread) and email their booth tonight, since they are doing an “email the booth” night and seem to answer an email or two per half-inning
Their email address is: askthemarlins ….AT….fsnflorida …dot…com
I think Maine is our #2 starter.
c’mon…give pedro a chance
He pitching tomorrow? Please say “yes”
i think ollie is up tomorrow
pretty sure its Perez. I think they’re trying to split up the lefties and righties.
That’s too bad. I’m stoked to see Maine pitch after his amazing ST.
WOW!! I hope that we dont play this bad all season long? This is a rookie guy that we should T-Off on. The Marlins are hitting Pedro like we should be hitting this guy. WAKE UP!!! Its 4-0 guys we need some runs………….
shutup
It’s Angel time, baby.
Awesome.
Pedro will be fine. Mets mounting a little rally.
No mas, Pedro…no mas!!!
Alou who? Pagan RBI single.
Imagine if Omar had never plucked Pagan from the Cubs’ oblivious organization. We’d be sending Easley/Chavez/Marlon on a daily basis. With Angel, many fans are saying, “Moises, who?” Love this kid. Should have never let him go…
wow that’s a quick hook…alright, let’s hope the Marlins bullpen is comparable to the Braves or the Phillies now
Nice piece of hitting by Delgado with the shift on, then Churchie and Pagan keep the line moving. Promising signs.
…Followed by the Schneid! Beautiful!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The Maroonie ad on the FSN Florida broadcast is one of the saddest, cheesiest things I have seen in all of my life.
And, the script is “Miami Heat fans go to Maroone for cars/trucks…” They don;t even have a script for Marlins’ games!
Nice Schneid!!!! (I am catching up via DVR).
These Maroone ads are killing me.
Schneider is going to be a fan favorite in short order..
agreed, especially if he hits anything like he’s hitting tonight
I already like him more than Paulie.
Mets playin small ball. I like it.
i’m diggin’ the small ball…national league style :-) who needs big bombs? lol, base hits are better for longer innings, look at the 6 run inning yesterday and now 3 runs today…love it
loving the bunts and base hits, i’ll take it alllllllll day long
come on Jose, no need to kill it here, just a nice little triple
or a sac fly…
I’ll take it. Good thing Pagan has wheels.
Let’s load them up for Wright.
nice smart ball this inning…right back in it and into the marlins pen early.
that was not running hard at all
ok, right back in this thing….now we just can’t have Pedro pull a Glavine and give those runs right back
have faith
or not…sh!t
Looks like that double-digit pitch AB by Pedro is the key to the game right now.
no pedro in general is the key, 4 runs (hopefully no more) and a contribution to gettin to that horrible florida pen
and now he’d headed to the DL. Paging Misters Niese and Figueroa…..
hey to the person who ask about pedro opening day in 2005. i was there that was my first mets game and i’ll tell you something , everithing was fine the stadium was empty at the end but BLOOPER blow that save. Pedro only mistake was 3 run HR of A Dunn on a 3-1 count. i have the picture of that swing and beltran first HR as a met. 12 K thats right!!!
we are back in game pedro will win today!!!!!!!!!!
Wishful thinking, but what if Pagan keeps playing like this up until Alou comes back? I mean, what would the decision there be?
Maybe use him as the RF platoon with Church if he can’t hit LHP?
Crap. Pedro pulled a groin or hammie. Out of the game.
So it begins…
Uh oooooh
and hes off to the DL
Aw man…Who’s going to take Pedro’s place in the rotation?!?!
aw crap-o-la…
Sosa or Niese, I hope
wow holy crap wtf!!!!! hes hurt already couldnt he give us 3 weeks so el duque could get ready
my pedro hammy post got blocked for profanity
i think in this case it was acceptable
Talk to me Goose, what’s happening?
Soo….Figuueroa (sp?) or Niese? Yikes.
Now:
1.) Santana
2.) Ollie
3.) Maine
4.) Pelph (ick)
5.) ??????????????????????? (double-ick!)
Santana
Maine
Perez
El Duque (hopefully)
Pelf/Niese
CLASSICAL!
WE ARE SCREWED!
PANIC!!!!
Is anyone really THAT surprised? Unbelievable, it’s almost comical. See you in August Pedro.
Who put the hex on us?
Maybe it’s an April Fools joke
One of these days I dream of a team that doesn’t collect social security checks.
well then become a marlins fans, most of them cant even but alcohol
buy
I;ve been a big Omar booster, but at some point he has to take responsibility stacking this team with geezers.
G-d hates the Mets
The hell with him.
there goes the mets #1 strength.
circus out there in the RF–looks like blastings out there
Seriously – Church is lost in RF!!!
How is Church lost in RF? That play with Amezega in the outfield would happen to any RF’er…
Church was playing in like any good OF would be because Amezega has zero power. He just got lucky and got a gift down the middle. Stop hating.
You’re right….I’m just cranky over Pedro.
It’s humid in florida, so maybe it’s a cramp.
I appreciate the positive thinking but are u sure your a mets fan
Im not surprised..Pedro looked weak ….I think this will be a good thing….we have a true Ace to stop losing streaks……and Maine is really a capable #2 …so what we have to rely on BIG PELF and maybe SOSA for a couple weeks ….Im sure Pedro will miss a few starts , but I doubt more than 5 ….so for 3 – 4 weeks we should hope Pelf shows us he can pitch….and who here doesnt have confidence in Sosa?? I do….so lets just win this one and see what the MRI says…GO METS!!
3 to 4 weeks, with a hammy? He’s done
Thank you!
Omar?
Did that really just happen???? I need a bar.
Put your bets in now, when will Pedro return?
I say late May / early June.
August at the earliest
Claudio Vargas just sat up in his chair…
4 weeks its nothing more than a hammy pull
Never?
Ugh. I need a drink.
Regardless, Pedro will miss a start because the Mets will baby him back, as they should.
will duque be ready and off the DL by then?
It’s retroactive to March 29th, so he would be eligible to come off the DL on the 13th. The question is will El Dueque be ready by then?
Well, let’s at least win THIS game. Can’t lose Pedro AND the game
Is it too early to start making suicide pacts with each other? It is right? I’ll set my webcam up just in case.
my friggin MLB.tv crapped out right when everyone came out to check on Pedro….what happened? Are we 100% positive this is a DL injury, or maybe just a 3-4 days of rest type injury?
It looks kinda serious. He had a noticeable limp, but he was walking under his own power.
He did the telltale grab back of leg hammy grab and grimaced and looked very diasappointed – though unsurprised. He did indeed walk ff with a noticeable limp.
sosa is stepping up. good job. the intentional walk to ramirez was a smart safe play when we were in a jam. let’s see what more sosa can do.
if SNY says anything about pedro, pls let us know b/c this guy with a hard on for alfredo amezega is sure not to tell us FSNers.
wow .. pedro gone out the game …. here we go Again..!!!!!!!!!!!
OH NO!!! THERE GOES PEDRO!!!!
More importantly, who’s pitching OD? I didn’t pay buku money to see Ollie pitch.
jose lima
that’s not funny
thats not even funny
is tony armas jr or nelson figueroa better? santana is pitching in atl on sunday. ollie’s not pitching on 3 days rest. who’s left w/o duque?
I’d rather take make chances with Sosa than Lima. With Lima you might as well not even show up.
yea, they’ll come back with Perez, Maine, and Pelfrey for the Phillies series, then Santana.
They dont ‘need’ another starter until 4/12 just like before, but I cant see Pedro being ready by then.
yep. we will be spared figueroa for a bit longer.
Pelfrey… ha!
For everyone who thinks Pedro will just miss a few starts, think about how long it took Chavez to get back last season after a hammy pull
Chavez’s was a lot worse. He couldn’t even get up, let alone walk by himself.
ITS LIMA-TIME…oh G-d i cant even joke
MLB.tv is back, and who knew Cookie Rojas did Marlins espanol broadcasts now? I always thought he was a good 3rd base coach
does anyone know what the deal with the blackouts is? is it because my credit card info is a NY area code, because im not in new york and i can’t get the game on mlb.tv
Where do you live? Because the mlb.tv should dectect the modem you have and notice that it not in the New York area.
i go to school in michigan
Yeah i don’t know why it is blacked out. My bill goes to the New Jersey area but I live near Philly for the week and it is working fine.
Guys, relax. Worst case scenario, he’s out a few weeks. The way this team is built, we have Armas waiting in the wings, while I know that isn’t the best option, it’s an acceptable one. Claudio Vargas is still there waiting for us to scoop him up, and El Duque is a few weeks away. Don’t press the panic button yet, this is why we got Johan. Instead of bashing Minaya, I think we should be thankful he got us our true #1 to rely on and have Pedro just as a #2/3/4, as I feel very confident in Ollie and Maine.
Let Pedro get a few extra weeks rest, let him come back strong, he worked hard in spring and I feel comfortable with him once he gets back, we are far from screwed.
We got stuck with the Yankees hamstring pull-o-rama of Spring Training ‘07, this year.
The thing I am going to hate is everyone media outlet(or at least ones that hate the Mets) will write how the “Mets are in BIG TROUBLE.” Even if Pedro is out last year, we still almost won the division last year with injuries all over the rotation last year.
oh ma gawd
what else is new
Shame about Pedro, thats the kind of injury than can hamper his whole season… and it didnt even get started yet.
Hope we see a lot of Sosa tonight so he can stay in the rotation.
Awful AB by Delgado right there, up 3-1 and two bad hacks. All too familiar as well…
I wouldn’t get THAT nervous. Who to say Pedro would’ve even been that great. He was throwing in the mid-80s and was getting hit pretty hard.
Does Johan have a twin?
yeah his name is carlos>get it carlos santana.
i know i’m lame…
Mike Hampton…. I always thought they looked like brothers.
yea, they definitely do look similar. Kinda eerie….hopefully Johan doesn’t decide his kids also need better public schools
Remember how good this team was last season without Pedro, Johan, and Delgado’s bat…
Speaking of which, maybe Carlos can start batting Righty?
well were not gettin delgados bat this year and who the (bleeped over a bad word) knows about pedro
2 sac flies tonight. that’s small ball. that’s how you play the game.
METS tie it up!!
Pagan is the MAN.
I gotta say, dawg, I like Pagan a lot. I like Pagan. I like Pagan a lot, dawg. What are his numbers? Doesn’t even matter, I like him a lot. Love the guy, dawg. I just like him a lot.
Randy Jackson?
yup
I bet phillie and brave fans are laughing at us now for laughing at them yesterday. Luckily our offense is hitting today
Then I hope Smoltz and Hamels get injured.
yeah..it’s already being discussed over ar beerleaguer
I’m honestly upset that Pedro will most likely miss the Shea Home Opener.
Yeah, I’d say that’s a pretty safe assumption
crap, I have tickets for the April 19th Phillies game and the April 24 Nats game, and Pedro would have been up for both of them. Now I’m gonna get….who exactly?
as soon as sny says anything and i mean ANYTHING!!!!!!!! post it asap for us who have to listen to this crap called FSN
Damn it is already 9 and only the bottom of the 5th, good to have baseball back.
depros injury will hurt, but i dont think it will be that serious. he was able to put weight on his ankle, but i think the mets should be cautious and let him get 1 or 2 starts off. i hope this doesnt become a trend
Just the fact that he’s a pitcher and he needs every part of his body to be healthy to pitch effectively gets me nervous. I’ll be the optimist, I think this will be the season for Pelfrey to shine
well he might have the ability to shine but that def means he wont
yea one of two starts off is nice but thats if he dont need 2 months off (oh god i hope not)
UPDATE:
Strained Left Hamstring DAY TO DAY
Does anyone else believe it could have just been a cramp? I mean it’s always humid as heck in Miami. And it did happen inbetween a long inning.
I doubt it…it was during a pitch = not between innings. And he grabbed it suddenly.
“strained left hamstring – day to day”
So far, strained left hamstring – day-to-day. For those of you who don’t have SNY.
Pedro has a strained hammy!
DL him, let him rest it and manage for a 3/4 starts till he is ready, remember its a marathon not a sprint
booth says: yeah ok day-to-day? that’s a trip to the DL.
also, gary suggested chan ho park and immediately chastised himself.
I hate day-to-day because it could turn into a month.
day-to-day. yeah, right. i’m day-to-day…pedro’s not.
god damn wayne hagin is horrible
i agree, I think I would rather have M&MD in the both….
Someone told me that he sounded really good in Spring Training, guess not. Btw I was watching the Philly game yesterday and Tom McCarthy sounded so much happier. It was like he was a closet Phillie fan all along. Glad to see you finally came out of the closet, Tom.
Is there a difference between a strain and pull?
Apperantly there is, but I don’t know which is worse.
Yea I guess thats the actual question I have
Some quick research seems to indicate they are the same thing….although im sure we will all know more than we ever wanted to over the next few days
no difference, same thing different word
my baseball coach boyfriend says a pull is worse. so we’ll go with that.
i hate to say it but hamstring pulls are always underestimated. 3 to 4 weeks is reasonable. dont rush him bc it will def set him back.
more like month to month
great job, jorge.
I am so dreading the conversations from guys like Kruk and all of the other talking heads of ESPN about how doomed we are.
Time for Carlos’ to earn their keep.
One Carlos down
And….Beltran is fooled by a hard down breaking ball. How many times have we heard that
Make it two
Come on Ryno
Aw man, that inning didn’t shape up the way I wanted it to.
this game is getting frustrating
Sort of like a roller coaster. Real tough in the beginning. Make a push. Get Pedro hurt. Tie it up. Look foolish by a guy in the pen.
That’s baseball for ya.
schoenweis is in. you know what that means!
It’s the No Show, ya it’s the big bad show tonight…
Any WWE fans out there? =)
He got the job done though. Kudos, man.
I hope this switching pitchers after one batter thing isn’t going to be a constant reoccurence, Willie. The most important thing this season is keeping the bullpen rested.
I don’t mind it so much. ONLY because it is at least different from last year. I hated how WIllie managed last year, so at least it is a change. We’ll see how it works.
True he does seem to be handling it different this year which is a good sign.
This bullpen still scares the crap out of me
And Wright’s throws to first scare me as well.
What is going on with him again? I didn’t see one of those throws all ST.
Idk, he is going to get Delgado injured one day which some Mets fans wouldn’t mind.
I agree. Its not like you have a lot of positive memories from last year to look back on. Hopefully by June we are talking about how its not worrisome at all when they come in.
You mean in June, when Dennis Martinez is our fourth starter
Let’s go “best pinch hitter in the game.”
burkhardt: pedro heard a pop, not feeling great, limping, coming to NY for MRI
None of those are really good things.
big K heilman …one more out
secondary to Pedro, but a point non-the-less..
Two games played and two (effective) appearances each by Sosa, Schoe, and Heilman. This is what happened to the pen last April and May and led to the downfall of the team. They have to find the innings somewhere else sometimes.
you can’t predict that pedro is going to get hurt so early in the game though. these guys were used properly. if ollie pitches well tomorrow it’s feliciano in the 8th to wags in the 9th then a day off.
a little early to start worrying about bullpen fatigue, no?
yes they were used properly and yes its too early, but it is beginning to repeat a trend that caused (big) problems last year.
come on delgado….no better time than now to work on that confidence
David Wright … warning track power only in Miami.
That inning really made me mad, the first 4 batters got to 3-0 and we only got two walks to show for it. Then when this pitcher couldn’t throw a strike, Church goes after the first pitch.
i can’t complain about anyone but church there. castillo tried to work the walk, wright jumped on a pitch to hit, beltran and delgado got on.
gotta appreciate the versatility of Amezaga.
No one could figure out who would play 1B when Ross came into PH for Jacobs. But Cantu can move over because Amezaga can move from CF to 3B mid game. Not many could hangle being used like that on a regular basis so props to him.
When is he a FA? :)
beltran!
great play- and for anyone listening to the fan, how good is howie rose?
wooo Carlos!!
Real nice hussle running in hard all the way on that play and throwing on the run. The ball wasnt going to make it to him, gold glove play all the way.
uggla’s on my fantasy team – that was the best of both worlds
hah me too i was gonna say the same thing
i feel like we’ve left 100 guys on
man…
wise was pitching so well too
you can tell he was bothered by the 2-0 count that could have easily been 0-2
Way to calm Wise down, Delgado.
Unreal….career .198 average. Shades of Molina hitting that changeup off Heilman. Disgusting.
figures.
161-1 or bust
well we’ve learned that the Marlins pen is better than the Mets pen…
Good luck Ollie, they need you to be big tomorrow.
How can you say they are better? because they scored one run?
this was not a good night for the mets…s#%^!
Put in the guy from the pen that did the worst yesterday, makes sense.
For the second game of the season this could not have gone much worse…
define ‘much worse’ ?
Wright and Schneider collide on a foul pop up and take out Santana falling into the dugout?
Wise has been the bad luck guy so far. He has not pitched that poorly but those are the breaks. Should have just left him alone. Who was due up next anyway if he had walked him? I am sure they said this is Ahern, just get in there and make him put the ball in play. Oh well, loss seems to hurt much more with the Pedro thing.
I am sure there will be 500 post after this but lets remain calm for now.
Can we get a bat in the bottom of that lineup? Does anyone really want to see Angel Pagan hit something in the ground and try to outrun it all the time?
Get Juan Rivera, Omar.
Bottom of the lineup has actually been doing decent. Poster boys did not come through tonight.
You add a bat in the bottom of the lineup and the poster boys get pitched to differently.
I think at this point the idea I mentioned a couple of weeks ago about Murton and Marquis sounds even better right now.
Are you effing serious, man? Pagan drove in half of the runs today. In two games he has an many ribbies as D-Wright. Of all the things to complain about…
Are YOU serious? Do you really thing Pagan is going to keep it up all year? He’s just carrying a hot ST. This team needs a real, everyday player. Pagan is a decent player but he’s just a guy you use a couple games here and there to relieve a starter. Alou is never going to play enough games to make a difference.
I don’t want to hear anything about Pagan until he’s actually doing something to hurt this team. He’s played a key role in both today and yesterday’s game. So whether you want to admit it or not, he’s NOT the problem. Get over it.
To crucify him for stats from years past, and a “hot” spring training is quite possibly the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
Why throw a changeup to a terrible hitter? It’s a gift. Keith was just saying that and boom – the guy hits the ball to Tallahasee. Very, very tough loss. They need to brush this disaster off, throw it in the rearview mirror and come back and beat these guys tomorrow.