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		<title>By: lisametsfan</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/08/note-shea-hello-shea-goodbye/#comment-127923</link>
		<dc:creator>lisametsfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt: 
My friend Dan said it best I think...

When I see Shea Stadium, I see Ron Swoboda&#039;s great catch in 1969.

I see the that ball going through Buckner&#039;s legs in &#039;86.

I see Robin Ventura&#039;s Grand Slam Single in &#039;99

I see Endy&#039;s catch in 2006.

People say that Shea Stadium is old and ugly. I guess they don&#039;t see what I see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt:<br />
My friend Dan said it best I think&#8230;</p>
<p>When I see Shea Stadium, I see Ron Swoboda&#8217;s great catch in 1969.</p>
<p>I see the that ball going through Buckner&#8217;s legs in &#8217;86.</p>
<p>I see Robin Ventura&#8217;s Grand Slam Single in &#8217;99</p>
<p>I see Endy&#8217;s catch in 2006.</p>
<p>People say that Shea Stadium is old and ugly. I guess they don&#8217;t see what I see.</p>
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		<title>By: murdertron3000</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/08/note-shea-hello-shea-goodbye/#comment-127919</link>
		<dc:creator>murdertron3000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s like saying goodbye to a really, really old friend who smells like urine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like saying goodbye to a really, really old friend who smells like urine.</p>
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		<title>By: gomets6091</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/08/note-shea-hello-shea-goodbye/#comment-127911</link>
		<dc:creator>gomets6091</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if the Mets had stayed at the Polo Grounds, and refurbished it in such a way that it was still nominally the same ballpark (i.e. more in line with Fenway and Wrigley than Yankee), I would be sadder about this move. We&#039;d all have the same memories as we do at Shea (well, slightly different, but you get the point...Mets history would be there), plus it would have the extra 50 years of baseball history behind it. And it was a much more interesting stadium architecturally. Of course, if the Mets had stayed at the Polo Grounds I probably would have gone to half as many games since Manhattan is harder to get to for me than Queens, so maybe it&#039;s a wash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the Mets had stayed at the Polo Grounds, and refurbished it in such a way that it was still nominally the same ballpark (i.e. more in line with Fenway and Wrigley than Yankee), I would be sadder about this move. We&#8217;d all have the same memories as we do at Shea (well, slightly different, but you get the point&#8230;Mets history would be there), plus it would have the extra 50 years of baseball history behind it. And it was a much more interesting stadium architecturally. Of course, if the Mets had stayed at the Polo Grounds I probably would have gone to half as many games since Manhattan is harder to get to for me than Queens, so maybe it&#8217;s a wash.</p>
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		<title>By: tfc3rid</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/08/note-shea-hello-shea-goodbye/#comment-127908</link>
		<dc:creator>tfc3rid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, some stands won&#039;t be the same ol&#039; food...  Just the same ol&#039; friendly staff...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, some stands won&#8217;t be the same ol&#8217; food&#8230;  Just the same ol&#8217; friendly staff&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gomets6091</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/08/note-shea-hello-shea-goodbye/#comment-127906</link>
		<dc:creator>gomets6091</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, that sucks....I didn&#039;t realize they were using the same concessions. Ugh.  

Will they at least be bringing over some of the pretty decent newer additions like Mama&#039;s of Corona to CitiField?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, that sucks&#8230;.I didn&#8217;t realize they were using the same concessions. Ugh.  </p>
<p>Will they at least be bringing over some of the pretty decent newer additions like Mama&#8217;s of Corona to CitiField?</p>
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		<title>By: RPsJacket</title>
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		<dc:creator>RPsJacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Memories, yes, but we will have new memories at Citi.

I am dissappointed that the same crappy concessionaire will run Citi.  This is a trememdous missed opportunity, the newer parks I visit have the most amazin&#039; food - Citi will have the same Aramark garbage in a different wrapper for 25% more $.  

Sad, but maybe most people don&#039;t care.  I love to eat...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Memories, yes, but we will have new memories at Citi.</p>
<p>I am dissappointed that the same crappy concessionaire will run Citi.  This is a trememdous missed opportunity, the newer parks I visit have the most amazin&#8217; food &#8211; Citi will have the same Aramark garbage in a different wrapper for 25% more $.  </p>
<p>Sad, but maybe most people don&#8217;t care.  I love to eat&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Horseman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets all hope that with these ridiculous ticket prices, that the mets put a port a jon in the parking lots. Hard to tailgate without anywhere to take a leek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets all hope that with these ridiculous ticket prices, that the mets put a port a jon in the parking lots. Hard to tailgate without anywhere to take a leek.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferraro41</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ferraro41</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree completely.  And just because it&#039;s a new stadium, doesn&#039;t mean it will be fixed.  I&#039;ll give you a real-life example.

So Iive in the DC area, and was lucky enough to attend opening night of the Nationals new ball park.  I won&#039;t bore you with all of my observations, but here are a few of interest:

- The men&#039;s rooms had *literally* seven urinals per facility.  It was the only public event I&#039;ve ever been to where there was no line for the ladies room, yet an 8 minute line to lose your beer.  

- The concessions stands had 45 minute lines, all around the stadium.  Keep in mind that this is a 45K seat stadium and regardless of how it was listed, the stadium was *not* full.  

- For all seats other than the sections directly around home plate, they were shockingly small.  Using my size 12 shoe, we estimated the seats to be roughly 18 inches wide, maybe even a tad less.  I&#039;m not a small person, but I&#039;m not a fat ass either, and I literally had to sit sideways in my seat to be comfortable.  It was like they bought these seats from Old Comiskey park and painted them blue.  Just awful.

The moral of the story is, just because it&#039;s new, doesn&#039;t necessarily mean it will be better.  I hope the Mets don&#039;t make these same mistakes.  I&#039;m excited about the new ballpark, but I will miss Shea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely.  And just because it&#8217;s a new stadium, doesn&#8217;t mean it will be fixed.  I&#8217;ll give you a real-life example.</p>
<p>So Iive in the DC area, and was lucky enough to attend opening night of the Nationals new ball park.  I won&#8217;t bore you with all of my observations, but here are a few of interest:</p>
<p>- The men&#8217;s rooms had *literally* seven urinals per facility.  It was the only public event I&#8217;ve ever been to where there was no line for the ladies room, yet an 8 minute line to lose your beer.  </p>
<p>- The concessions stands had 45 minute lines, all around the stadium.  Keep in mind that this is a 45K seat stadium and regardless of how it was listed, the stadium was *not* full.  </p>
<p>- For all seats other than the sections directly around home plate, they were shockingly small.  Using my size 12 shoe, we estimated the seats to be roughly 18 inches wide, maybe even a tad less.  I&#8217;m not a small person, but I&#8217;m not a fat ass either, and I literally had to sit sideways in my seat to be comfortable.  It was like they bought these seats from Old Comiskey park and painted them blue.  Just awful.</p>
<p>The moral of the story is, just because it&#8217;s new, doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean it will be better.  I hope the Mets don&#8217;t make these same mistakes.  I&#8217;m excited about the new ballpark, but I will miss Shea.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottN</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll miss the old place--have a lot of wonderful memories, and connections to my late grandparents.  I think it&#039;s a little more nostalgic for those of us who don&#039;t live in NY anymore.  My annual trips to Shea really are the only time I have a sense of place that connects me with my childhood in NY.  As cruddy as Shea is, it is replete with those memories, and bringing my kids to Shea was a wonderful &quot;link-in-a-chain&quot; feeling.

Frankly, I wish they had found a way to refurbish/expand the Polo Grounds rather than building Shea in the first place.  We could all have a Wrigley Field like connection with that park and from what I understand it may have just been able to stand the test of time.

That said, time does march on.  Citi Field will never feel like my ballpark, but I don&#039;t blame a single person who gets giddy over the thought of Shea coming down.

Oh, other note, how sweet was it to see the Braves blow it for Glavine last night?  The ump had a HUGE strike zone, which, at this point is what Glavine must have to be effective--his fastballs were zipping in at 82mph consistently.  Tommy is going to KILL what is a weak Braves bullpen this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll miss the old place&#8211;have a lot of wonderful memories, and connections to my late grandparents.  I think it&#8217;s a little more nostalgic for those of us who don&#8217;t live in NY anymore.  My annual trips to Shea really are the only time I have a sense of place that connects me with my childhood in NY.  As cruddy as Shea is, it is replete with those memories, and bringing my kids to Shea was a wonderful &#8220;link-in-a-chain&#8221; feeling.</p>
<p>Frankly, I wish they had found a way to refurbish/expand the Polo Grounds rather than building Shea in the first place.  We could all have a Wrigley Field like connection with that park and from what I understand it may have just been able to stand the test of time.</p>
<p>That said, time does march on.  Citi Field will never feel like my ballpark, but I don&#8217;t blame a single person who gets giddy over the thought of Shea coming down.</p>
<p>Oh, other note, how sweet was it to see the Braves blow it for Glavine last night?  The ump had a HUGE strike zone, which, at this point is what Glavine must have to be effective&#8211;his fastballs were zipping in at 82mph consistently.  Tommy is going to KILL what is a weak Braves bullpen this year.</p>
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		<title>By: K-Hern</title>
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		<dc:creator>K-Hern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I hear people complain about Shea (and rightfully so),  I can&#039;t help but reply with a classic Clark Griswold response.....

Clark Griswold:  &quot; It&#039;s all part of the experience honey&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I hear people complain about Shea (and rightfully so),  I can&#8217;t help but reply with a classic Clark Griswold response&#8230;..</p>
<p>Clark Griswold:  &#8221; It&#8217;s all part of the experience honey&#8221;</p>
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