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In a post to Phillies Nation, titled Stop Crying Your Heart Out, Tim Malcom gives advice to the Mets and their fans.
…it’s a sad, sad day when a) Philadelphia can mock New York, and b) a Phillies fan is the voice of reason…
…Update…11:10 am…
Charlie Manuel, on being booed in Shea Stadium, as quoted by the New York Post:
“That’s OK. That’s fine. That’s good. As a matter of fact, we got a kick out of that…Jimmy, he definitely rises to the occasion here. It just brings out the best in him. It seems like he always plays a big part of the victory.”
…jeez…glad we can help, charlie…unreal…
the pain, the pain!
At the game, it felt like the crowd was more invested in booing fans in Phillies gear, Rick Astley, and Aaron Heilman than they were in cheering the team during the first 5 innings when everything was going right.
And a shameful amount of people left both when Sosa gave the Phils the lead, and after the 8th.
Sorry day for my fellow fans.
Tell me about it…I was at the game. The fans were invested in booing the Philly fans. However, most of the Philly fans instigated a few altercations. In section 29, I must of witnessed three to four altercations. All resulting in police escorts. Most of the altercations happened before the Mets relinquished the lead.
It’s a shame on many levels. The Mets lost their last home opener at Shea and…plain and simple…the bullpen could not protect the tie…Although, Carlos Delgado is to blame as well.
And yes…the Rick Astley song sucked. Sorry folks.
On my way down the ramp after the game, I was heckled by a few Philly fans. I am sure it’s easy to pick on someone who had to walk with crutches. Thanks Philly fans…You guys are a class act!
i dont think its so much being negative as it is trying to root for this team. they really are very unlikeable. If i have to watch schoenweiss struggle one more time or castillo walk off the field because of his 87 year old knees im gonna flip out. maybe once the offense clicks and we can score more than 2 runs against 45 year old jaime moyer, i will feel a little better
I also find it very tough to like some of these players. This team reminds me of the Yankees, with all high-salary free agents. The only difference is that the yankees won.
I understand your approach, but successful teams (in this case I mean teams that win) need to be able to take advantage of the free agent market. Beltran, Wagner, Pedro and Santana are really our only high priced free agents, and for the most part, those players are very popular. Castillo got an unreasonable contract, but it’s not super high in terms of salary.
Personally I like the team, but I’d like them more if Reyes went back to being Reyes instead of being all business-like. At least we had some personality then.
Well put cmf7.
I was worried about comments being turned off as well, what was up with that?
I don’t blame the Phillies fans though. When we were ahead for so long we mocked them and Rollins till the last day we could. We deserve what we’re getting and don’t have a team with enough heart (so far) to stand up for it’s fans…
And the day I use a Phillie fan as my Psychological adviser, is the day I shoot myself in the head.
P.S. I love the new “Mets Mantra”
One Team, One Million GMs
Anyone ever been to Citizens Bank Park wearing a Mets hat? It’s not like Phillies fans are the classiest bunch in the world. That being said, every time I’m at Shea and see Mets fans streaming out in the 7th inning it disgusts me. I guess that’s the problem with being a successful franchise and having a lot of fair weather fans.
Since when are the Mets a “successful” franchise?
From a business standpoint, the point is to rake in profits, which the Mets do. Perhaps those profits aren’t maximized the way they would be if the team won a World Series, but the franchise is successful because it makes loads of money.
And this is coming from a socialist…
Point well taken. But as far as “successful” on the baseball diamond….I think not.
They might have sold lots of tickets for this season, being the last at Shea…but if its mid-summer and this team is 10 under and tanking….Shea will be a ghost town. Last season at Shea or not.
I agree…Once the Mets gave up the lead fans headed for the doors. People have listened and believed in the hype…When the team does not produce those “fair-weather” fans will head out. The true fans who follow the team through good and bad will remain.
With that said…I am not ready to push the panic button. After all the Mets are six games into a 162 game season. Let’s give it a few more weeks and if things do not improve, then I am sure MOVES will be made.
I still believe. Forget the fair-weather fans…forget the belligerent Philly fans who threw beer at Met fans. That was then…Let’s move on.
Oh God, can we get past this? This franchise has piled nothing but garbage upon its true believers for two solid decades, and I wouldn’t blame any of them if they never showed up again.
If they stink this summer and you still show up, fine, bully for you. But let’s not go down that “deep down, it’s really the fans’ fault” road so many traveled (or wanted to) last September.
The “fan’s fault road”??? What the hell is that. I have no Idea what you are referring to. If some idiots were actually blaming the fans for the awful performance on the field, i never saw that.
And as for the notion that the franchise has piled garbage on its fans? Do you call acquiring santana garbage? Maybe some people would have a more reasonable prospective if they spent a year rooting for the pirates or orioles or another once proud franchise that has been betrayed by their ownership. I think some long standing fans of those franchises might take great exception to those comments.
The “fan’s fault road”??? What the hell is that. I have no Idea what you are referring to. If some idiots were actually blaming the fans for the awful performance on the field, i never saw that.
Heals at Gotham Baseball did it, for one. NY Post also ripped Mets fans the night after the Cards game that last week. And I remember Willie saying “the real fans” were the ones cheering all the way up till the end. There was an unspoken message there - if you were horrified by what was happening to the Mets instead of clap-clap-clap-clap-clap-clap-clapping, you weren’t a “real fan.”
And as for the notion that the franchise has piled garbage on its fans? Do you call acquiring santana garbage? Maybe some people would have a more reasonable prospective if they spent a year rooting for the pirates or orioles or another once proud franchise that has been betrayed by their ownership. I think some long standing fans of those franchises might take great exception to those comments.
In terms of on-field results and off-the-field embarassments, yeah, this franchise continually piles garbage upon its true believers. If you want to be grateful that you’re not an O’s fan or a Pirates fan, go ahead.
Well being that the Mets are pathetic, and the Phillies keep beating the Mets….why shouldn’t they talk smack?
Until the Mets do something about it (which they probably wont), keep the slams coming.
We would be doing the same thing, if it was the other way around.
We did it last year. I remember the “team to beat” chants every time Rollins came up to bat early in the year.
No worries, whenever Philly bashes the Mets all I do is remind them that the Giants are Super Bowl Champions and Eli Manning is the Super Bowl MVP, that shuts them up.
How can Philly mock New York? First off, Philly is a football town, so just bring up the NY Giants. Remind Philly fans that Eli Manning is the SB MVP. That will shut them up.
I didn’t leave the game yesterday in the 8th because I’m a faint-hearted or fair-weather Mets fan, but because I and my daughter had to walk back to my car, which was parked somewhere in Nassau County. That being said, this team lacks guts, grit, fire, heart — pick your metaphor or body organ. They seem to just lie down at the first sign of adversity. Some might say that’s true also of their fans. Not so. We only lie down after we’ve been bowled over by their stupendous and continuing ineptitude.
Well said.
I know lots of other major league teams are worse than the Mets….but this is New York. We have a very high payroll, star players, and high expectations.
But I’ll tell you this based on the above users comments - this 2008 Mets team has not one quality that reflects a championship calibur team. Not one.
The Phillies talk A LOT more than the Mets do when they beat us. For a team that brags about a season where they were given the division and swept in the first round, they sure do have whole lot to flap their gums about.
I wish we played 10 more games against them this week.
I don’t understand why “Jimmy” is getting fired up at all. Doesn’t he understand that this is all no big deal, just one game, and that we are just waiting to get into a nice little rythym etc.
Mets fans I know want a scrappy team of fighters, which show some damn heart, and this Willie Randolph attemt to clone the Yankees mentailty is about making me sick.
if you didn’t realize that other teams get a kick out of being booed, or even hearing Mets fan boo their own players, you were kidding yourself. We’re aiding in firing them up and we’re also adding to this teams’ sense of defeat (that many of you think they have). So many of you want this team to lose that sense, but then you go and boo them at any chance, is that really helping?
well, there will probably be only half the attendance tonight, so hopefully the crowd won’t be a factor in the mets play. (that was a weird sentence to write.)
texeira’s HR in Atlanta came just as we had gotten a nice rousing Lets Go Mets chant going… blech
Take this from a loyal since-birth kind of Mets fan…as much as I hate Philly, I can’t help but love their team, their guts and their will to win. They fight back against us with all that they’ve got EVERY TIME they take the field. Their desire to win puts ours to shame. I’m not saying we don’t want to win, it’s just they turn their desire into actions. I’m not sure you can teach that and it is obvious since last September, we don’t have it.
Just tell Philly fans that the Giants won the SB, that’ll shut them up.