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	<title>Comments on: Links: 1969, Pelfrey, Shea and Citi</title>
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		<title>By: LiBoyInCarolina</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/10/links-1969-pelfrey-shea-and-citi/#comment-131154</link>
		<dc:creator>LiBoyInCarolina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Batsinthepelfrey, you make very good points and I respect your opinion but I have to say I disagree on a few things. A few things and then hopefully we&#039;ll be able to move on from this since it&#039;s never going to change.

More than anything else it&#039;s the attitude about this whole thing that bothers me. The whole &quot;I&#039;ll sell you my ticket at a premium when I can&#039;t make it attitude&quot;, that&#039;s the kinda crap that I don&#039;t need nor will I tolerate from someone who is suppossed to be on the same page as me considering at the end of the day we have a common mission: to see the Mets win. Now if you want to give me the reasoing behind the Wilpons decision to reduce seating that is fine and it makes business sense. But if we&#039;re being fair and realistic he could have made the stadium 50,000 and it would have sold out for at the minimum a decade (new stadium+biggest city in America+winning team= sellouts) even the Indians sell out and they&#039;re not in a market 1/2 the size as NY. So you&#039;re just content with this because you still have a seat..they could&#039;ve cut this puppy down to 38,000 and still made the same profit and I&#039;d bet you wouldn&#039;t be singing the same tune (&quot;you&quot; doesn&#039;t refer to anyone in particular just a group of like minded people).

As far as those 2,000 fans being non existent I just don&#039;t see your point. If a ticket is purchased a seat is taken. If 45,000 tix are purchased next year but not a single person goes to the game the game is still sold out. It&#039;s not like the Mets will be walking on Roosevelt Ave. next year and allowing fans into Citi Field to fill the empty seats of no-shows. Personally I believe there is more to life then money, especially when you have as much as the Wilpons do (don&#039;t forget the extra 20,000,000 a year for naming rights) and it&#039;s sad that a family on a whim can&#039;t go to a game on a saturday afternoon. That is how I became a Mets fan. Not that there is anything wrong with being wealthy, or 30 and single or whatever it is that allows anyone to purchase season tickets but the fact of the matter is that not all of us are. And it&#039;s sad (notice the word is sad..not unfair) that this won&#039;t be an option anymore.

This is just the times we live in and it wont change. I&#039;ll still see my Mets. I was in Atlanta this weekend (ugh) and I&#039;ll be back down there and in DC a bunch of times this year so it&#039;s not a big deal but it&#039;s just upsetting to me that I&#039;ll have a hard time getting tix to see my team at home. I just don&#039;t see why some of you are so OK with the concept of greed. When you take more cookies then your brother your momma calls you greedy when you&#039;re younger. But when you&#039;re older and you blatantly rip people off (4.75 for a drink) and kick people out (minimum of 2,000 a game maximum of about 15,000) then why is it so easy to excuse it as &quot;business sense&quot;. Oh well..hey the weather and girls are better down in Atlanta anyway, plus Ted Turner would kick Wilpons ass

on a serious note Lets Go Mets!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Batsinthepelfrey, you make very good points and I respect your opinion but I have to say I disagree on a few things. A few things and then hopefully we&#8217;ll be able to move on from this since it&#8217;s never going to change.</p>
<p>More than anything else it&#8217;s the attitude about this whole thing that bothers me. The whole &#8220;I&#8217;ll sell you my ticket at a premium when I can&#8217;t make it attitude&#8221;, that&#8217;s the kinda crap that I don&#8217;t need nor will I tolerate from someone who is suppossed to be on the same page as me considering at the end of the day we have a common mission: to see the Mets win. Now if you want to give me the reasoing behind the Wilpons decision to reduce seating that is fine and it makes business sense. But if we&#8217;re being fair and realistic he could have made the stadium 50,000 and it would have sold out for at the minimum a decade (new stadium+biggest city in America+winning team= sellouts) even the Indians sell out and they&#8217;re not in a market 1/2 the size as NY. So you&#8217;re just content with this because you still have a seat..they could&#8217;ve cut this puppy down to 38,000 and still made the same profit and I&#8217;d bet you wouldn&#8217;t be singing the same tune (&#8220;you&#8221; doesn&#8217;t refer to anyone in particular just a group of like minded people).</p>
<p>As far as those 2,000 fans being non existent I just don&#8217;t see your point. If a ticket is purchased a seat is taken. If 45,000 tix are purchased next year but not a single person goes to the game the game is still sold out. It&#8217;s not like the Mets will be walking on Roosevelt Ave. next year and allowing fans into Citi Field to fill the empty seats of no-shows. Personally I believe there is more to life then money, especially when you have as much as the Wilpons do (don&#8217;t forget the extra 20,000,000 a year for naming rights) and it&#8217;s sad that a family on a whim can&#8217;t go to a game on a saturday afternoon. That is how I became a Mets fan. Not that there is anything wrong with being wealthy, or 30 and single or whatever it is that allows anyone to purchase season tickets but the fact of the matter is that not all of us are. And it&#8217;s sad (notice the word is sad..not unfair) that this won&#8217;t be an option anymore.</p>
<p>This is just the times we live in and it wont change. I&#8217;ll still see my Mets. I was in Atlanta this weekend (ugh) and I&#8217;ll be back down there and in DC a bunch of times this year so it&#8217;s not a big deal but it&#8217;s just upsetting to me that I&#8217;ll have a hard time getting tix to see my team at home. I just don&#8217;t see why some of you are so OK with the concept of greed. When you take more cookies then your brother your momma calls you greedy when you&#8217;re younger. But when you&#8217;re older and you blatantly rip people off (4.75 for a drink) and kick people out (minimum of 2,000 a game maximum of about 15,000) then why is it so easy to excuse it as &#8220;business sense&#8221;. Oh well..hey the weather and girls are better down in Atlanta anyway, plus Ted Turner would kick Wilpons ass</p>
<p>on a serious note Lets Go Mets!</p>
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		<title>By: sundaysection15</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/10/links-1969-pelfrey-shea-and-citi/#comment-131104</link>
		<dc:creator>sundaysection15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man as a college kid i love to be able to get the cheap ticket to shea, and im gonna miss that a lot when citi comes but damn that looks nice i cant wait to see the mets win some games over there! gotta get a big series win vs the phils tonight btw, go mets!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man as a college kid i love to be able to get the cheap ticket to shea, and im gonna miss that a lot when citi comes but damn that looks nice i cant wait to see the mets win some games over there! gotta get a big series win vs the phils tonight btw, go mets!</p>
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		<title>By: saltzy007</title>
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		<dc:creator>saltzy007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cant say it better than that...

Allow me to add, that the 2,000 people getting screwed next year are NON EXISTANT.  I was there last night.  The seats have been sold(whether they are being used is another story) to people buying in bulk.  There was NO walk up last night.  I saw people GIVING tickets away.  Those seats are only in demand for OD, Yanks, playoffs, and last season weekend games. 

No more.  EVERY game now will be a tough ticket.  Sorry the Mets in their greed are creating demand...BASTARDS!!!....

Bottom line.  Big fand wanna make sure there are seats for the big games and dont care about &#039;normal games&#039;...

The Mets DONT CARE about big games.  Those will ALWAYS sell out.  They wanna make sure the place is packed for every game, including game 2 against the Phis...45,000 is PERFECT!...last night was a golden example of this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cant say it better than that&#8230;</p>
<p>Allow me to add, that the 2,000 people getting screwed next year are NON EXISTANT.  I was there last night.  The seats have been sold(whether they are being used is another story) to people buying in bulk.  There was NO walk up last night.  I saw people GIVING tickets away.  Those seats are only in demand for OD, Yanks, playoffs, and last season weekend games. </p>
<p>No more.  EVERY game now will be a tough ticket.  Sorry the Mets in their greed are creating demand&#8230;BASTARDS!!!&#8230;.</p>
<p>Bottom line.  Big fand wanna make sure there are seats for the big games and dont care about &#8216;normal games&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>The Mets DONT CARE about big games.  Those will ALWAYS sell out.  They wanna make sure the place is packed for every game, including game 2 against the Phis&#8230;45,000 is PERFECT!&#8230;last night was a golden example of this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: krumbledkookie</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/10/links-1969-pelfrey-shea-and-citi/#comment-131042</link>
		<dc:creator>krumbledkookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree whole heartedly.  I went into last nite&#039;s game thinking that even though it&#039;s game 7 of a long season, it was as close to a must-win as it gets.  And Big Pelf came through.  Obviously, we&#039;d prefer him to go more than 5 innings, but he did pitch well, and took a big step as far as I am concerned.

When he came out of the game, Johan went over to him and gave him what Gary Cohen called &quot;man-love&quot; and other guys seemed to be offering him handshakes and other congratulations on a job well done.  His performance should do wonders for his confidence.

Again, big step forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree whole heartedly.  I went into last nite&#8217;s game thinking that even though it&#8217;s game 7 of a long season, it was as close to a must-win as it gets.  And Big Pelf came through.  Obviously, we&#8217;d prefer him to go more than 5 innings, but he did pitch well, and took a big step as far as I am concerned.</p>
<p>When he came out of the game, Johan went over to him and gave him what Gary Cohen called &#8220;man-love&#8221; and other guys seemed to be offering him handshakes and other congratulations on a job well done.  His performance should do wonders for his confidence.</p>
<p>Again, big step forward.</p>
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		<title>By: batsinthepelfrey</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/10/links-1969-pelfrey-shea-and-citi/#comment-131034</link>
		<dc:creator>batsinthepelfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as one of those season ticket holders, let me say you made a couple good points.  and yes the rhetoric of people who have season tix can be a little obnoxious.  but a couple of things you got wrong... first, no one is saying season tickets holders are better fans, simply they demonstrate their commitment with their wallet in addition to everything else and that helps pay for everything all mets fans get to enjoy.  a season ticket in upper reserves is not expensive and if you can&#039;t afford it on your own or can&#039;t go to every game (like i can&#039;t) then get a couple people together and split it (like i did with a field box).  second, if you are a season ticket holder this year you are guaranteed a seat next year and from my extensive conversations with them it will almost certainly be in the equivalent area of the new stadium.  lastly, the atmosphere at citi will be as good if not better than at shea, smaller, closer to the field, etc.  the idea that it will be suits all of a sudden isn&#039;t fair.  everyone who is there this year (some 20k+ season ticket subscribers) so the difference will be negligible. Its good tosee the mets fan base all over the US but i can&#039;t help the fact you live in NC.  Neither  I nor the Mets owe you an opportunity to have a guaranteed seat ready for you when you come home to visit your family on Long Island for Memorial Day.  Some people who have complained about the decrease in seats (not you) come across as if they have that entitlement, when they clearly do not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as one of those season ticket holders, let me say you made a couple good points.  and yes the rhetoric of people who have season tix can be a little obnoxious.  but a couple of things you got wrong&#8230; first, no one is saying season tickets holders are better fans, simply they demonstrate their commitment with their wallet in addition to everything else and that helps pay for everything all mets fans get to enjoy.  a season ticket in upper reserves is not expensive and if you can&#8217;t afford it on your own or can&#8217;t go to every game (like i can&#8217;t) then get a couple people together and split it (like i did with a field box).  second, if you are a season ticket holder this year you are guaranteed a seat next year and from my extensive conversations with them it will almost certainly be in the equivalent area of the new stadium.  lastly, the atmosphere at citi will be as good if not better than at shea, smaller, closer to the field, etc.  the idea that it will be suits all of a sudden isn&#8217;t fair.  everyone who is there this year (some 20k+ season ticket subscribers) so the difference will be negligible. Its good tosee the mets fan base all over the US but i can&#8217;t help the fact you live in NC.  Neither  I nor the Mets owe you an opportunity to have a guaranteed seat ready for you when you come home to visit your family on Long Island for Memorial Day.  Some people who have complained about the decrease in seats (not you) come across as if they have that entitlement, when they clearly do not.</p>
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		<title>By: saltzy007</title>
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		<dc:creator>saltzy007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and by the brother of Marky Mark no less....

I&#039;m not a man...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and by the brother of Marky Mark no less&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a man&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: batsinthepelfrey</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/10/links-1969-pelfrey-shea-and-citi/#comment-131004</link>
		<dc:creator>batsinthepelfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saltzy - i&#039;m pretty sure you just got called out by one of the New Kids on the Block.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saltzy &#8211; i&#8217;m pretty sure you just got called out by one of the New Kids on the Block.</p>
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		<title>By: LiBoyInCarolina</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/10/links-1969-pelfrey-shea-and-citi/#comment-130996</link>
		<dc:creator>LiBoyInCarolina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saltzy, get off your high horse it&#039;s pretty pathetic. Before I go any further save the &quot;newcomer&quot; stuff on me because I&#039;ve been reading this blog for two years minimum I just don&#039;t post much. While your point is well taken and true in terms of last nights game let&#039;s also take a look at the FACTS. 

The fact is last years average attendance was 47,000 (2nd in the majors) and last nights was 47,127 (paid). Now next year 2,000 of those &quot;good customers&quot; will not be allowed in due to the new spacious world-class facility. It&#039;s pretty obvious that you&#039;re one of those &quot;if you don&#039;t have season tickets you&#039;re not a real fan type&quot; or at least you speak their language very well. The best part about all of this is that I don&#039;t think anybody is entitled to a seat next year. The language the Mets use is &quot;have priority&quot; (current season ticket holders, AKA better fans) but who is to say they won&#039;t screw all of you &quot;better customers&quot; over for better customers? You don&#039;t think every corporation/hotel in town isn&#039;t going to try to snatch up tickets?  Well not to worry..you&#039;ll be able to get them..at a premium!

Some of you guys crack me up, seriously. You run around and make fun of less fortunate fans who just want to be able to go to a few games a year (sorry I can&#039;t drive up from North Carolina 81 times a year) and yet we&#039;re all supposed to be on the same boat together as Mets fans. But instead you all try to one up each other because you&#039;re a season ticket holder..oooahhhh ahhhhhh. Gimme a break. Get a grip on yourself and realize that there is other people in the world besides you.

For the record..I CAN afford to go to Citi Field regardless of what they charge. This is not the point, it&#039;s the principle behind it. I like the atmosphere at Shea and it&#039;s inevitable that much of it will be lost next year. So have fun sitting there and rooting on the Mets with a bunch of empty suits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saltzy, get off your high horse it&#8217;s pretty pathetic. Before I go any further save the &#8220;newcomer&#8221; stuff on me because I&#8217;ve been reading this blog for two years minimum I just don&#8217;t post much. While your point is well taken and true in terms of last nights game let&#8217;s also take a look at the FACTS. </p>
<p>The fact is last years average attendance was 47,000 (2nd in the majors) and last nights was 47,127 (paid). Now next year 2,000 of those &#8220;good customers&#8221; will not be allowed in due to the new spacious world-class facility. It&#8217;s pretty obvious that you&#8217;re one of those &#8220;if you don&#8217;t have season tickets you&#8217;re not a real fan type&#8221; or at least you speak their language very well. The best part about all of this is that I don&#8217;t think anybody is entitled to a seat next year. The language the Mets use is &#8220;have priority&#8221; (current season ticket holders, AKA better fans) but who is to say they won&#8217;t screw all of you &#8220;better customers&#8221; over for better customers? You don&#8217;t think every corporation/hotel in town isn&#8217;t going to try to snatch up tickets?  Well not to worry..you&#8217;ll be able to get them..at a premium!</p>
<p>Some of you guys crack me up, seriously. You run around and make fun of less fortunate fans who just want to be able to go to a few games a year (sorry I can&#8217;t drive up from North Carolina 81 times a year) and yet we&#8217;re all supposed to be on the same boat together as Mets fans. But instead you all try to one up each other because you&#8217;re a season ticket holder..oooahhhh ahhhhhh. Gimme a break. Get a grip on yourself and realize that there is other people in the world besides you.</p>
<p>For the record..I CAN afford to go to Citi Field regardless of what they charge. This is not the point, it&#8217;s the principle behind it. I like the atmosphere at Shea and it&#8217;s inevitable that much of it will be lost next year. So have fun sitting there and rooting on the Mets with a bunch of empty suits.</p>
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		<title>By: donnywahlberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>donnywahlberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely understand your point, and truthfully, I&#039;m out at Shea all the time...during the week...for the good teams and the bad teams, and i&#039;m not worried about losing 10,000 seats.  I just think you&#039;re obnoxious.  You can keep your seat, and I&#039;ll keep mine, knowing it&#039;s nowhere near yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely understand your point, and truthfully, I&#8217;m out at Shea all the time&#8230;during the week&#8230;for the good teams and the bad teams, and i&#8217;m not worried about losing 10,000 seats.  I just think you&#8217;re obnoxious.  You can keep your seat, and I&#8217;ll keep mine, knowing it&#8217;s nowhere near yours.</p>
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		<title>By: ravi3</title>
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		<dc:creator>ravi3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just hope that the building literally rocks, as Shea does now...to me, thats one of the best experiences in the ball park......fearing for your life, lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just hope that the building literally rocks, as Shea does now&#8230;to me, thats one of the best experiences in the ball park&#8230;&#8230;fearing for your life, lol</p>
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