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preGame: Mets vs. Phillies (Game Three)
By Mike Nichols - Apr 10, 2008 6:00 pm

The Game:

The Mets (3-4) look to take the rubber game of their three-game series versus the Phillies (4-5) this evening at Shea Stadium, starting at 7:10 EST.

The Lineup:

…same lineup as last night…funny thing is, at this point i feel more confident with easley in the lineup than i do a healthy Luis Castillo

The Pitchers:

RHP John Maine (0-1, 9.00 ERA) makes his second start of the season for the Mets. In his season debut for the Mets, Maine took the loss, allowing four runs on eight hits, while striking out five and walking three over four innings pitched against the Braves. In his six career starts against the Phillies, Maine is 4-0 with a 2.13 ERA.

RHP Adam Eaton (0-0, 3.52 ERA) takes the hill for the Phillies. In his last start for the Phillies, Eaton earned a no-decision pitching 7.2 IP allowing three earned runs on six hits, while striking out two and walking four. Eaton is 5-0 with a 2.68 ERA against the Mets in seven career starts.

…well, if anything this should be a well pitched ball game, as both starting pitchers have pitched well against the opposition in their careers…i’ll be looking to see if maine can regain his spring form and bounce back from his rocky first outing…

The Notes:

Chase Utley is batting .400 with 1 HR and 2 2B in 15 career at-bats versus Maine.

The Phillies lead the major league with 13 errors in nine games.

The Mets are last in the National League in hits (63) and homeruns (3).

Carlos Beltran is batting .364 with 2 HR and 4 RBI in 11 career at-bats versus Eaton.

How To Catch It:

Tonight’s game can be seen locally on and heard locally on WFAN.

The Bleachers:

For a live chat, head over to The Hot Foot Bleachers.

…just as disastrous as the first game of this series was, we can all forget about it if the Mets win tonight and take two of three in the first regular season series versus the Phillies

…my hope is the Mets get some length from maine tonight and the Willie Randolph can avoid using so many pitchers to finish off games…

…enjoy, and as always, Let’s Go Mets

777 Responses to “preGame: Mets vs. Phillies (Game Three)”

  1. Anyone else in here as pleased w/Pagan as I am..I mean the guy looks so confident at the plate..always makes contact…I kinda look at him as our Victorino..he has reached base safely in every game…..I want Alou back , but Im sure glad we got Pagan this off season..I only wonder w/FMART coming soon ..what we will do with Pagan next year. LETS GO METS!

    • anais says:

      If Pagan’s early returns hold up, I’m sure he’ll get a chance to contribute. A good fourth outfielder always gets plenty of at-bats.

    • cousinrk says:

      We all need some perspective. I’m thrilled with Pagan but this is guy they got for nothing and because he’s got 9 RBI’s in 8 games people are talking about him in the future outfield, just like they are ready to dump any player who hasn’t pitched or hit well in 8 games. Its just 8 games, and its too early to make any judgements.

      Its gonna be a wild season, and hopefully the true talent of this squad will rise above the other teams in the division but let’s relax from making rash judgments good or bad in mid-april.

  2. thenextgreat1 says:

    with alou coming back lets move pagan to right and have church come off the bench

    • deloid says:

      Church is doing really well in Right field- have you missed that?

    • darkstar73 says:

      you realize Church is hitting better then Pagan right now, has a HR, and only 2 less RBI? And he plays better defense then Pagan? You do realize all of that right?

    • VCarver says:

      Lets not.

    • ExileInLA says:

      Yeah – bench Church. After all, if the guy only gives us 8 RBIs in 8 games, why should he get playing time? Anyone can hit .350 batting ahead of such noted powers as Angel Pagan and Damion Easley.

      Sheesh…

  3. NYMetsGrrl94 says:

    any word on rollins playing?

    • thenextgreat1 says:

      from yahoo

      Apr 10 Rollins (ankle) underwent a precautionary X-ray Wednesday, and it came back negative.

      Recommendation: Rollins suffered the sprain in the eighth inning Tuesday when he spun awkwardly into second base on a fake pickoff throw. Rollins’ status won’t be known until close to game time, though it’s likely that Eric Bruntlett will start for a second straight day.

    • Mike Nichols says:

      Per Comcast Sports Net in Philly he is out of the lineup again tonight.

  4. Steal Home Jose! says:

    I like this lineup too. We shouldn’t have re-upped Castillo (Although who knows how that factored into Johan’s decision).

    I think we should have rolled with Easley and Gotay and tried for Orlando Hudson next year. Oh well.

    • therealsince86 says:

      Hudson wants 15 a year for 5-7 years. Still want him? I know Castillo is not great, however, I want no part of a Hudson contract.

  5. thenextgreat1 says:

    no rollins

    Victorino/Bruntlett/Utley/Howard/Burrell/Jenkins/Feliz/Ruiz/Eaton

  6. metzelaar says:

    Can Pagan play second? We’d have a nice lineup when Alou comes back if he could. Of course, I’m only half serious.

  7. mex84 says:

    Come on Mets! Lets get Eaton’s ERA above 5.00 where it belongs!

  8. No Rollins..Eaton blows…..LETS GO METS!!!!

  9. metropolitanfan84 says:

    move pagan to right and bench church when alou comes back? no way. first of all church has been hitting the ball very well and his defense looks great. pagan’s d is about avg. if anything, by the time alou comes back we will know how church handles lefties so maybe a platoon until alou goes down again. i know its still early but 2 out of 3 surely would be nice. Let’s Go Mets!!!

  10. Steal Home Jose! says:

    3 Home Runs? Holy Crap!

  11. metsfan704 says:

    least hits, least HRs, blah blah blah. We still have one of the best OBP and we are near the bottom of runs allowed.

  12. tedoaks says:

    whats everyone worried about? alou will be hurt again by mid june-pagan will get plenty of playing time

  13. sincekindergarten says:

    Victorino getting doubled off first on a 55-foot popup–What an eeeeediot!!!! I bet Cholly is going to have a few words for ol’ Shane soon . . . and maybe even fine him for such a boneheaded play.

  14. HLSMets says:

    Alright everyone, let’s cool it with the pessimism for once darn moment and get behind our team. Golden opportunity to whoop up on the Phils at Shea with Rollins out. Everyone — deep breath — whoosa — okay. Let’s Go Mets! Ph- the Phils!

  15. NYCESQ says:

    Reyes…WAKE UP!

  16. metsftw says:

    david wright going after an outside breaking ball…odd, he never does that

  17. BobbyValentinesDisguise says:

    So an 8 pitch inning for Adam Eaton where he dominates our hitters. Guys, it’s Adam freakin’ Eaton…I’m sick of this bum dominating our hitters.

  18. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    They’re trying to hit the planes flying over Shea.

  19. saltzy007 says:

    Can I make a quick point here. I was at the first 2 games. Watching at home now.

    These crowds SUUUUUUCK. 1-2 2 out, man on 2nd….and its like they have to drag people out of their seats. Its the rubber game of a Phils series….we can be .500….LETS GO…

    I fear the ‘avg’ Mets fan is becoming the sweet litttle family from LI. I go to Yankees games too, and say what you will…..better crowds….

    • and what’s wrong with being “the sweet little family from LI”?

      • saltzy007 says:

        Nothing…but can you please eat the sandwiches out of the cute little baggie in between innings….or at least put in down when you should be cheering and not only when its a ‘Everybody clap your hands….’ chant…

        Last inning was better….

        The Mets reaaaaak of a team when they win(pray) the bandwagon will make the Red Sox look like the Royals Nation

    • Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

      You could be on to something. Think about how many people bought tickets this year because it’s the last for Shea. Maybe they’re families trying to squeeze in as many games as possible because they know when Citi opens they will probably be priced out.

    • wolverine194 says:

      Maybe because people are getting tired of getting all worked up when they know that the Mets will choke once again with RISP.

    • tedoaks says:

      hate to admit but your right-was at a semi important yankee game last year in mid season the place was a friggin madhouse!

  20. metsfan704 says:

    why is Easley swinging at the first pitch? Let’s get this guys pitch count up and get into their bullpen (should be tired).

  21. wolverine194 says:

    Here we go again…. Getting shut down by this piece of crap pitcher

  22. metsfan704 says:

    Maine is only hitting 92 on the gun, compared to 96 on Sat. I hope something isn’t wrong

  23. tedoaks says:

    I dont understand-in 06 we scored 2 or 3 runs in like every first inning what is so different about this team?

    • therealsince86 says:

      Reyes

      • wolverine194 says:

        Definitely, and the fact that everyone in the lineup gets tight with runners in scoring position

        • therealsince86 says:

          Funny, I thought that too until I looked up our stats. Coming in to the game we were hitting over .300 with RISP. Nobody in scoring position I guess?

  24. sincekindergarten says:

    Victorino very nearly overran Reyes’ line drive there . . . Damn!

  25. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    Is it too early to do a team headshave like last year?

  26. wolverine194 says:

    Jesus Christ! Utley literally leans in to try to get hit on every inside pitch. I’ve never seen anything like it before.

  27. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    Utley’s first instinct was to turn into the pitch there.

  28. saltzy007 says:

    I think I love John Maine…

    There I said it….

  29. therealsince86 says:

    Well at least Maine is pitching better. I just don’t understand the way Eaton dominates us and has a 6.00 ERA or more against everyone else. Something has to give sometime right? But we are not even getting his pitch count up, that is something we have actually done well so far this season but not yet tonight.

  30. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    Nice piece of hitting, Pagan for lead off?

    • therealsince86 says:

      You jest right?

      • Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

        Mmm, maybe half. He’s getting on base and has wheels. On the other hand he can also produce RBIs.

        • darkstar73 says:

          but seriously, are you really just going to give up on Reyes that easily? IT’s like last year with Wright all over again in April, I cannot wait for Reyes to shove it back down all of your throats.

        • Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

          It’s not giving up on him, I didn’t suggest they do it permanently. If Pagan can continue with a good OBP it at least gives us a baserunner from the leadoff more than we’re getting now. And if swap Reyes to 2nd, then even his pop up-itis can advance a runner.

        • darkstar73 says:

          dropping Reyes could be pretty detrimental to him, but yeah, it would equate to giving up on him. 7 games man, 7. I’m not sure switching around the line up every 7 games because one player isn’t hitting is a good idea.

        • Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

          Believe me, I like Reyes a lot. When I finally decided to give in and buy a player’s jersey it was his.

          Switching lineups doesn’t always equate to messing up a team. Remember we started out last year with Beltran-Delgado-Wright as the heart of our order and our best offense came from moving it around to Wright-Beltran-Alou.

          I think of Reyes at his best is a great top of the order hitter, not soley confined to leadoff spot.

          Is his pysche that fragile that taking him out of the leadoff will damage him?

        • therealsince86 says:

          Reyes does not have the characteristics of a #2 hitter at all. If you can say anything about him you can say he is impatient. Does that sound like a #2 hitter?

      • darkstar73 says:

        its really hard to tell with some of these comments, but i mean, if you didn’t know Mets fans were fickle before…here you go.

  31. HLSMets says:

    BS third strike on Wright. That was low. But we gotta stop making this guy look good.

  32. tedoaks says:

    wright looks horrible!

  33. metsfan704 says:

    Anyone want to organize an anti-philly wikipedia barrage? i.e. talk about what an underhanded player utley is, etc.

  34. HLSMets says:

    Look at Church getting it done. Let’s Go Mets!

  35. NYCESQ says:

    Church, how can you not like the guy?

  36. tedoaks says:

    niiiice!

  37. Jay says:

    I’m confused. It was two outs and there were men on, what happened? I need to check the owner’s manual, be right back.

  38. zen says:

    the power of christ compels you.

    • darkstar73 says:

      man I miss Milledge, the only thing missing from that play was Lastings jumping into the stands and crowd surfing.

      • zen says:

        omar makes a bad trade so i should take it out on church? i like church. lastings is just going to be much better. you are comparing a 29 year old in his prime to a 23 year old kid who’s off to a great start, by the way

  39. NYCESQ says:

    I really like Church in th 6 hole, I would not move him. There will be plenty of rbi opportunities for him there.

    • therealsince86 says:

      I think when Castillo was in, Willie was getting it right playing the Matchups. Once Alou returns then Church will be the 7 or 2 hitter.

  40. wolverine194 says:

    Can anyone else envision the nightmare scenario where Alou is about to come back so Omar decides to trade Pagan ONLY to have Alou get injuried about a week after he is reactivated? For some reason I’m anticipating this happening.

    • darkstar73 says:

      are you crazy? why would we trade him just because Alou is coming back? do you think Omar is that dumb?

      • wolverine194 says:

        I can just see it being the trading deadline, and Omar, not wanting to trade Martinez and scrambling to find trade bait, would ship off Pagan for like a middle reliever or something. Don’t put too much faith in Omar, you might get burned.

        • darkstar73 says:

          it was a joke, and we got 2 players for one, so just comparing Church to Milledge doesn’t make sense either, but whatever, that discussion is that last thing i want to do right now.

        • darkstar73 says:

          wow, i totally replied in the wrong place, just forget everything I said because I don’t feel like explaining it all to you or the other poster I was replying to.

  41. Pagan starts it off..Church delivers…who wouldve thought? LOL…. and I now know why I hate To McCarthy…he claims Bruntlett bounced the ball to Utley on purpose?? WTF?? He is an idiot, ohh and Gary Matthews Sr says our waving towles are vrying towels…Philly announcers and fans sicken me ..no brains, class or respect.

  42. metsfan704 says:

    was that really a 6 pitch inning for Maine?

    • ExileInLA says:

      pretty neat – huh? Having an easy inning or two in the first 5 is key to going 7, which is key to saving the bullpen. And if Maine can go 8 and turn it over to Wags, even better.

  43. CitizenSnips says:

    So are Reyes and Wright gonna deliver anytime soon or…

  44. HLSMets says:

    When was the last time Reyes hit anything on the ground? Is it just me or does he not resemble the Reyes from way back when he first broke into the bigs and struggled because he wanted to pop every pitch for a HR?

    No panic here though. I have faith the kid will get it going soon. Ya Gotta Believe.

    • saltzy007 says:

      Rickey meet Jose….

      Jose meet SUCKING….

      • darkstar73 says:

        blaming Rickey Henderson? really? Please, Rickey was around when Reyes was doing fine, blaming him is such a horrible excuse, its on Reyes, and oh btw, its game 8 of the season. Does anyone out there remember David Wright’s April last year whne people were saying the same exactly things about him? How’d that turn out? Give it time (do MEts fans even know what the word patience means?)

  45. saltzy007 says:

    OK…Jose….Evvverytime you hit one in the air you owe me 20 pushups….with your speed you should be hittin’ em on the ground and legging em out…

    eeesh…what the heck is up with him?….

  46. rogasm says:

    WEell, at least the new guys want to win. Hopefully it catches on with the rest of these clowns.

    • gomets019 says:

      You make a hell of a point. Pagan, Church, and even Brian Schneider have been great so far. If only our own all-stars would play with the fire of these role players we’d be in great shape. Maybe we should turn over the whole lineup, cut payroll and reap the rewards of players who play to win and love the game instead of players anxiously trying to live up to their contracts and how great they’ve told us they are. I appreciate that Mr. Wright has become great at dealing with the press, i.e. making excuses (willies biggest talent as well) but is anyone tired of hearing wright’s painfully in depth analysis of every loss. SHUT F**K UP AND RAKE. And let Jose Jump around, dance, scream, spit on people, incite riots, bench clearing brawls, whatever it takes. Let the kid play his game and let Willie collect unemployment if he doesn’t like it. The time to let go of willie isn’t after 8 games, it was after his 1st interview. Mets could have owned the last 2 pennants under a different manager. You don’t get to play those seasons over. Just had to chime in with some reality for those of you who are giddy with the win today. If Willie doesn’t get the blame when his players don’t produce he doesn’t get the credit when they do and none of it changes the fact that he doesn’t fit this team and never will. If the Mets do anything it will be in spite of him, not because of him.

  47. beltransmole says:

    What will happen first, Duaner pitching in a game or Reyes getting a base hit? And go…

  48. wolverine194 says:

    If Jose’s career had the story arc of Boogie Nights, this would be around the part where he’s masturbating for money.

  49. gipper91375 says:

    Jose, Jose, Jose is lost, lost, lost.

  50. saltzy007 says:

    Atta boy Schneids…

  51. rockets212 says:

    thats why we got schneider!!!!!!!

  52. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    That’s right you little runt, did you hear the OUT call through your little league helmet.

  53. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    Ouch, that was better than some of the hits I saw at the Rangers-Devils game last night.

  54. beltransmole says:

    How did we make it out of that without an injury? That had Marlon Anderson playing 2B for the next 3 weeks written all over it.

  55. metsfan704 says:

    He needs to get howard here if he has the slightest chance of getting into the 8th

  56. wolverine194 says:

    oooooo crap, this has Pat Burrell 3 run homer written all over it.

  57. ryankobayashi says:

    here we go!

  58. metsfan704 says:

    I just hope he gets out of the 6th now, forget about the 8th or 7th.

  59. wolverine194 says:

    As much as I like Maine more than Perez as a pitcher, I have to say, I trust Perez more in these mentally taxing spots

  60. rockets212 says:

    if they bring in show im going to put a bullet in my head!!!!!

    • wolverine194 says:

      I like Show, he doesn’t mess around with hitters, he just walks them right away. And he has that permanent look on his face like he’s trying to squeeze out a crap.

  61. metsfan704 says:

    thank the lord

  62. ryankobayashi says:

    way to go Delgado! that’s how you throw to 2nd!

  63. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    And this board’s blood pressure just dropped about 100 points,

  64. beltransmole says:

    Thought we might’ve had a replay of Tuesday with Delgado there.

    • therealsince86 says:

      Which proves that players play the game. 99% of the time they are not thinking about the previous game, much less the previous season. Just do what is in front of me.

  65. rockets212 says:

    pagans the man we might have to trade alou lol

  66. sincekindergarten says:

    C’mon CBel . . .

    • sincekindergarten says:

      Right on cue!

    • i hate tommy herr says:

      It is absolute torture to try and follow a game on espn’s gamecast. I am in class right now and the Jenkins fielder’s choice took literally 5 minutes to update. You guys update the play by play quicker on here. Thanks.

  67. mr.gee21 says:

    Getting it done with runners in scoring position. Sweeeeet.

  68. cohen1333 says:

    isnt it easy….platoon pagan and alou…less chance for alou to get hurt and a good bat off the bench always available.

  69. beltransmole says:

    Ripped!!!!

  70. Lord Donkey says:

    Does anybody else think that the Mets playing like garbage and the Mets having Castillo in the lineup go hand in hand??? I mean they did start being awful last year right around the time he came to NY!

    • therealsince86 says:

      No,we had already had a horrendous slump when he arrived and then had one when he was here.

      • cohen1333 says:

        i know what youre saying, but i disagree…castillo is just so uninspiring with the bat, the deal will eventually look foolish

        • darkstar73 says:

          Castillo hit what for us last year? .300?

        • therealsince86 says:

          I debated this for about 2 hours already. I just don’t see a .300 average with .370 OBP uninspiring or worthless.

        • rockets212 says:

          eventually? its lookin pretty foolish already

        • darkstar73 says:

          judging a season on 7 games is definitely teh way to go, good for you. If we did that last year, David Wright would have been cut.

        • therealsince86 says:

          I give up on this subject, it’s going to be the one that many of you bash until Castillo starts hitting again so go ahead and have something to complain about. All of us agree it was too many years but he was still the best 2nd baseman available on the market last year and would have been here either way. Omar went 1 too many years, but get over it. I am done trying to defend a guy that hits .300 with .370 OBP. I will let his numbers prove you wrong.

    • ryankobayashi says:

      yeah castillo is worthless. it pains me to think that gotay is in atl because of this waste of roster space

      • therealsince86 says:

        Don’t worry Gotay will be considered a waste of a roster spot soon by Atlanta when Placido comes back and we can pick him back up if we did not consider him a waste of a roster spot again.

    • tedoaks says:

      they were playing like crap from mid may on

  71. rogasm says:

    Seems as though this team is starting to play a little pissed off. ‘Bout time!

  72. cohen1333 says:

    by the way, i hate victorino…he catches EVERYTHING

  73. i hate tommy herr says:

    I really would not be opposed to keeping Pagan in the 2 slot and move Castillo down to 7th or 8th.

  74. rockets212 says:

    tank god no show

  75. wolverine194 says:

    Oh god, here comes the bullpen

  76. washtiger says:

    Why did Willie let Maine start this inning? I know it was the bottom of the order, but he was showing signs of losing it last inning…

    Fasten your seatbelts!

    • therealsince86 says:

      Man he can’t win on here. The other night posters were upset that he pulled Perez when he was struggling now some are upset that he left Maine in.

      • washtiger says:

        Okay, then Maine needed to come out after the HR. C’mon, we’re Mets fans, we second guess quite well!

    • darkstar73 says:

      why did Willie just take that breath? why did Willie just lean over on the railing? Why did Willie just adjust his cap? Man, don’t we want our pitchers to go as deep as possible, or are you the one poster on this board with complete confidence in our bullpen?

  77. wolverine194 says:

    It’s like a horror movie, you know the curious girl who is snooping around the house will get killed, it’s only a matter of how and when

  78. CaseStreet says:

    I actually have faith in Pedro, unlike noShow.

  79. rogasm says:

    Bruntlett has had a rough go of it in NYC…

  80. KingWright says:

    Pedro has the right stuff.

  81. tedoaks says:

    come on pedro-una mas!

  82. tedoaks says:

    siiiiiick!!! go pedro

  83. rockets212 says:

    feliciano is the man!!!!!!!!!!

  84. MudvilleNine says:

    And the crowd goes wild!!!!!

  85. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    Strap Schoe into a chair and force him to watch that inning over and over again.

    • rockets212 says:

      if ur going to strap schoe into a chair please make it the electric chair so we dont got to deal with him

  86. beltransmole says:

    Was going to start an anti-Feliciano message. Glad I held out.

  87. ccmetfan says:

    Good to have one reliable Pedro in our team

  88. CaseStreet says:

    Bring back Pedro or call up Heilman in the 8th?

  89. rockets212 says:

    am i the only one here who is even remotely considering takin reyes out of the leadoff spot?

  90. wolverine194 says:

    If I were Manuel I’d walk Anderson

  91. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    Scroll up the thread, myself, Darkstar and TheReal discussed that earlier.

  92. ccmetfan says:

    heilman should pitch next and also have wagner warm up early

  93. rogasm says:

    Again, I am in STL A couple of girls I know are at Shea at the game..What train from Shea wil take them back to Manhattan?

  94. beltransmole says:

    Great AB by Marlon.

  95. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    Marlon doing his best Mookie Wilson impression.

  96. wolverine194 says:

    Jesus, our bullpen SUCKS

    • rockets212 says:

      its not the whole bullpen, its hielman lately, and schoe always, there is always someone who is sucking it up, and when its a main guy, it makes he pen look horrid

  97. rockets212 says:

    nice heilman nice

  98. therealsince86 says:

    Can we please try Heilman as a starter so we don’t have to see him but once every 5 days?

  99. wolverine194 says:

    Heilman throws at least 4 hangers in every inning he pitches

  100. beltransmole says:

    That guy is a beast!

  101. wolverine194 says:

    Thanks Heilman, clutch as always

  102. Wheelhouse88 says:

    Time for Heilman to go. He is….simply terrible.

  103. cohen1333 says:

    it sickens me to watch aaron heilman….

  104. beltransmole says:

    How can this guy be our setup man? The only thing he sets up is opposing teams’ comebacks.

  105. rockets212 says:

    wheres sanchez??????

  106. CaseStreet says:

    ESPN still has Marlon AB.

  107. beltransmole says:

    Please get Heilman out of there. He is going to turn a great win into a horrible loss. Watch.

  108. cohen1333 says:

    COME BACK DUANER!!!

  109. therealsince86 says:

    My goodness, I have no idea what is wrong with Heilman. He can’t do this all year or Shea will completely forget 2 years of solid relief and be right back to what they were saying about him before. “Trade him for a bag of used balls”

  110. wolverine194 says:

    Why oh why did the Mets ever get rid of Chad Bradford?

    • therealsince86 says:

      Did not get rid of him, misjudged the market and did not want to resign him at that cost. Then had to give the same money to Show. i think it also had to do with Smith.

    • rockets212 says:

      he was never the 8th inning guy, it was sanchez, he need a solid sanchez back

  111. giuseppe franco says:

    Why does Heilman always Procede to give up home runs? Can we only use him with a 4 run lead in the 9th?

  112. beltransmole says:

    Schoenworst warming up. Great sign.

  113. Wheelhouse88 says:

    Why cant some of you figure out why he gets knocked around? Why is this a shock??

    Look at his pitches! He throws fat meatballs right over the plate…and if not, he walks guys. His stuff SUCKS.

    And its time for him to be removed from this team. Trade him Omar…before his stock drops anymore.

  114. wolverine194 says:

    Un-Fing-believable. This bullpen BLOWS

  115. rogasm says:

    Funny story, just talked to my two friends at the game. They talked to Howard prior to the game (we all grew up together) and they asked if he would go yard or not. They asked him to hit one for them and he obviously obliged.

  116. jose--jose-jose-jose says:

    This is where you use your closer. These are the 3 outs you NEED to get. Let smith or somebody take the 9th, this is the most important situation in the game, and I dont care what inning it is, you need your best reliever out there now.

  117. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    How To Lose A Lead in 10 Pitches, a manual by Aaron Heilman.

  118. Wheelhouse88 says:

    Heilman…keep whining about being a starter.

    You can’t get 1 out…let alone get through 6 or 7 innings.
    This game is over.

  119. Metskin says:

    Heilman needs to go some place and be a 4th starter. He has ZERO GUTS for being a relief pitcher. Willie needs to understand this.

  120. beltransmole says:

    Willie better go get him RIGHT NOW!!!!

  121. wolverine194 says:

    The Mets are going nowhere with this bullpen. It’s really a shame

  122. beltransmole says:

    Let’s play single, double or HR. I’ll go with double this time.

  123. rogasm says:

    Can someone update me on the situation…This espn gamecast sucks!!

  124. CaseStreet says:

    Why not keep Pedro to go after Howard?

    • therealsince86 says:

      Can not hold that against Willie at all. Man in scoring position and MA on the bench you have to PH there.

      Besides Heilman is supposed to be able to get outs too.

  125. giuseppe franco says:

    We would have been better off letting Pedro hit and come back this inning. That is how bad Aaron is.

  126. Woodside20 says:

    This guy is atrocious…Maine should have had this win in the bag and now he gets a no decision due to this fruitcake.

  127. rogasm says:

    How can Heilman look Ollie OR Maine in the face after this series?

    • giuseppe franco says:

      You would think he would have some composure out there. It’s not like he is a rookie or its his first year in NY.

  128. Wheelhouse88 says:

    No more Heilman in the 8th. He clearly doesn’t have the guts.

    His numbers are a total mirage of how he actually pitches….which is horrible. I can’t stand to watch this bum anymore.

    take him and Show and SHIP THEM SOMEWHERE FAR FAR AWAY.

    Beautiful Maine game….nice 3-1 lead. We can’t preserve that lead for 5 minutes. thank you aaron

    • hyperion4 says:

      Too bad for Maine . . . but he should be going a little deeper in games. He hadn’t thrown that many pitches, but he got tired all at once. It’s easier to feel sorry for a pitcher for losing a W when he doesn’t spit the bit after 6 innings.

  129. wolverine194 says:

    This is why people who predicted that Santana would win 20+ games proved to me that they don’t watch the Mets. How can you win 20 with this sh_t covering your back?

  130. zigner says:

    Have to laugh at Wagners comment last week that he sees Heilman as eventually taking the closers role.

    • krumbledkookie says:

      Pitchers have slumps just like hitters do. It just so happens that Heilman’s is coming when most of our offense is sucking it up.

      You guys are so fickle (as we all are); don’t forget how good Heilman has been for us for the past 2 and a half years.

  131. marvelousmarv says:

    What is up w/ Helman this year.

    • rogasm says:

      This year? It’s been this way since ‘06

      • krumbledkookie says:

        What Heilman have you watched? Typical, no recognition except for when someone fails.

      • jose--jose-jose-jose says:

        Heilman 2007: 86 innings. 3.03 ERA. 1.07 WHIP. 140 ERA+

        He has sucked bad so far this year, and he came up small at points last year, but those numbers are pretty good for anybody, any year. Sorry

  132. rockets212 says:

    he cant throw a strike and when he does it gets hit and hit hard, thats the obviouse sign he sucks and his stuff sucks

  133. wolverine194 says:

    watch this no name loser drive this guy in

  134. beltransmole says:

    THROW STRIKES A$$HOLE!!!!

  135. gipper91375 says:

    This team is a disaster.

  136. Wheelhouse88 says:

    Alot of Mets starters will be looking to kill the pen this year.

    There will be lots of great starts….and those starts will be butchered by the pen….just like we’ve seen numerous times already.

  137. wolverine194 says:

    Maine should deck him in the dugout

  138. beltransmole says:

    Great, Rollins on deck. Please do not let Heilman pitch to Rollins!!!

  139. therealsince86 says:

    I don’t boo players but If I were at the game I think I would break my rule.

  140. wolverine194 says:

    Don’t worry people, Reyes is leading off, he should be good for a 2 pitch pop out

  141. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    Can we have Vargas skip extended spring training?

    Can we have the injured Vargas come in during the 8th? It can’t be much worse than what we just witnessed.

  142. ccmetfan says:

    Adios Heilman
    I was looking foward to seeing u at Citi next year

  143. beltransmole says:

    Here come the boos!!!

  144. Wheelhouse88 says:

    Heilman, Show, and Reyes for Rollins.

    I’d make that trade tomorrow haha. At least we would get a SS back that knows how to hit the baseball. I forget what that feels like.

  145. giuseppe franco says:

    Great commercial, have you guys tried this yet? It works great. Look at what it did for me!

  146. Jimbabway says:

    Why take out Pedro Felicano? and bring in Heilman
    I just dont get Willie Anymore!!

    • therealsince86 says:

      Are you watching the game? With a man on 2nd base you would not use the best PH in game?

  147. almar1965 says:

    exactly. no way are santana or maine winning 18+ games with this bullpen, which is continuing where it left off last september.

    un-@#$%^&*-believable.

  148. Darth Hernandez says:

    Guys we need to start giving Heilman a break.. The guy is a starting pitcher and he should be given a shot this season.. If we don’t and we continue to booooo him, there is no way he would ever resign here.

    He is a good dude and a solid pitcher..

    • Aquadealer says:

      Who the heck wants him to resign?????? Good riddence

    • giuseppe franco says:

      So if we continue to boo him he won’t re-sign? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • MetsRmilife says:

      So a guy that can’t control a single inning is going to get more innings to work with. Let’s see him handle the 8th ONCE before we give him a spot in the rotation.

  149. wolverine194 says:

    Score this freaking run!

  150. marvelousmarv says:

    Okay lets see if we can understand this:

    Pedro throws LEFTY
    Pedro is our LEFTY specialist
    Ryan Howard is one of the best HR hitters in the game
    Ryant Howard bats LEFTY
    Bring in Heilman
    Heilman is a RIGHTY

    Its plain as day to me. Don’t know what you’ guys are screaming about?

    • therealsince86 says:

      Again, did you watch the previous inning? Man on 2nd base with the pitcher due up late in the game. You don’t use the best PH in the game?

      • gipper91375 says:

        Gotta agree with thereal here….got to try and score there.

        Of course, one could avoid the decision by double-switching Feliciano into the game in the first place….but that would require somebody explaining the concept of the double-switch to Willie….again.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Who did you want to take out?

        • gipper91375 says:

          With Howard due up first next inning, not feliciano.

          I’d have to go back and look at who batted last in previous inning.

          Could be it was not feasible/desireable, in which case there was no play but to PH Marlon for Pedro.

          Of course, you and and I understand this conversation about who we might pull in a double switch. Then, ….there is our illustrious manager.

    • hyperion4 says:

      In a 2-run game, you really shouldn’t give up on a getting a run when you’ve got a great PH available. PH’ing for Feliciano was the right move.

  151. ccmetfan says:

    mets gonna score this inning,just watch
    this is where the mets regain their late inning instincts from 06′

  152. beltransmole says:

    What’s even more maddening than Heilman tonight is that Willie will go to him in the 8th again because “he’s my guy.”

  153. wolverine194 says:

    If Pagan hits into a DP I’m throwing my tv out the window

  154. rockets212 says:

    what cant pagan do?

  155. beltransmole says:

    Nice, now steal 2nd!

  156. wolverine194 says:

    What fun and intricate way will the Mets find to blow this one?

  157. Lord Donkey says:

    It’s pretty awful that Heilman might end up getting the win

  158. wolverine194 says:

    Hit this one to Flatbush Beltran, it’s the only way!

  159. rockets212 says:

    good news, reyes is hittin over .200 hes hittin .206

  160. beltransmole says:

    I hope they keep Pagan near the top of the order instead of that hack Castillo.

  161. beltransmole says:

    Why would they walk Wright? He’s looked awful tonight.

  162. wolverine194 says:

    If the Mets don’t score here, it’s over, we all know it

  163. beltransmole says:

    Swing Carlos, swing!!!

  164. ccmetfan says:

    Willie should make the team watch the 2006 Mets DVD

  165. beltransmole says:

    What sucks about baseball is that if the Mets go ahead here and eventually win, Heilman gets the win. Baseball is a screwy game.

  166. almar1965 says:

    a flyball, that’s all,..a flyball. If they can’t get a flyball here….

  167. wolverine194 says:

    Of COURSE he strikes out. The anti-86 Mets. This team SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  168. almar1965 says:

    Why am I not surprised Beltran struck out?

    • MudvilleNine says:

      Because he did it all last year when Reyes was on third and less than 2 outs. Thats why I was so happy when Willie finally put Wright up third. Reyes should have scored at least 20 more times last year but Beltran couldnt make contact with him on third.

    • andyglass1 says:

      c’mon – lets give CarBel credit……. at least he swung…… and he looked damn good trying.

      Does anyone think Carbel breaks (makes) the 10 top MLB players list ?

  169. almar1965 says:

    Any wagers that Del-sucko will strike out as well?

  170. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    C’mon Delgado, you’ve shown that you can hit the ball the other way, do it now.

  171. wolverine194 says:

    Great……Delgado, another choke artist

  172. giuseppe franco says:

    No surprise we don’t cash in here.

  173. atrain311 says:

    Wow. This team is Art Howe worthy. Yawn. I’m bored of them.

  174. wolverine194 says:

    Okay Wagner, now let the Phillies take the lead. We all know pitching in non-save situations gives you hot flashes.

  175. almar1965 says:

    !@#$%^&*()!@#!$^%!!!!!

    This cast of characters that call themselves a baseball team is seriously trying the souls of every Mets fan.

    My softball team could kick their asses.

  176. Darryl Strawberry says:

    There is no way we win this game. The Phillies refuse to give up and the Mets are anything but clutch. Sickening. Just sickening.

  177. Wheelhouse88 says:

    this team will never change. any good team gets that run in.

    this team is seriously offensively challenged. one day it would be nice to get some big hits…..one day.

  178. gipper91375 says:

    What a scrappy, fun, winning team.

  179. beltransmole says:

    There’s that clutch Mets hitting we’re all accustomed to!

  180. wolverine194 says:

    Anyone want to take bets on how many runs Wagner give up this inning?

  181. almar1965 says:

    Wagner in a non-save situation while not pitching for 8 days against Jimmy Rollins.

    There’s always tomorrow.

  182. Wheelhouse88 says:

    why do i feel like Beltran gets plenty of big hits and double baggers with no one one….

    but NEVER EVER EVER gets the hit when needed. EVER.

    Circa October 2006

  183. cohen1333 says:

    im disgusted.

  184. therealsince86 says:

    Is it some type of defense mechinisim that as soon as we are no longer winning that the entire board turns to doom and gloom and we can no longer enjoy the game or the post? I know being a Mets fan makes us want to expect the worst but aren’t we also be the fans that believe?

    • Wheelhouse88 says:

      therealsince86……all you EVER do is come on here and sugarcoat candyland any criticism a poster makes about this team.

      ive seen your posts. this team isnt playing good baseball. guys are allowed to comment on that. why are you always the first one to come on and make it seem like everything is peachy.

      its hard to “believe” when your team just completed the biggest chokejob in the history of the sport.

      • therealsince86 says:

        It’s not the candyland. If you notice I never say we are playing well. However, we are not the worst team ever, nor do we suck, nor is the entire team wanting to lose, nor, nor, nor……….. Believe it or not I was once viewed as a pesimist on here, how times have changed. All you guys do is bitch and complain about every player and every move that is made. Grow up and realize it’s baseball.

        I have been on here since the begining and the doom and gloom on here has gotten to the point of stupidity.

        • Wheelhouse88 says:

          If it was a year ago….maybe I can accept that as a reason. But after what occured last September, no one wants to see it again.

          And this 2008 version of the Mets is no different than last years. In fact i would say the best hitters on the team are Pagan and Church….2 guys who weren’t here last year.

          Where is Wright, Reyes, Beltran in the big spot?
          Bullpen also sucks. its sickening to watch this over and over and over again.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Then just stop watching.
          How can you compare this team to last year’s team during the slump? We have been playing poorly and have already won more games.

      • therealsince86 says:

        Then just give up and expect the worst every time. Why even watch the games or come on here to post. Is it just so you can bitch?

    • almar1965 says:

      We do believe,…well,….with this team it is very difficult to believe. But we do it so that if the other shoe drops, it won’t be so devastating. This attitude though is strictly attached to this AAAA team on the field.

      • wolverine194 says:

        I’m not a lemming, I need a reason to believe. This team has given me none

        • almar1965 says:

          I am not a lemming either. I hope you are not insinuating that. What I mean by saying we still believe is that we do not go into any game rotting against our team for better or for worse. But at the same time that does not mean we cannot be cynical and criticize or as is the case with this team, be frustratingly dissappointed by what we see on the field.

    • gipper91375 says:

      People are bitter from the collapse and the utter lack of anybody being held accountable for it (see: Randolph, William). Add in the uninspired play this year so far and it is a toxic brew.

      Keep in mind, people use this forum to vent.

      Frankly, while it can be irritating, I admire your rainbows and lollipops optimism…..but for those of us who are getting old enough to start forgetting important parts of the last championship season 21 years ago…..patience is wearing thin. We can take bad seasons with talentless, underpaid teams (we’re Mets fans) but this group has the talent and the payroll……so it is particularly frustrating.

      • therealsince86 says:

        I agree, but until the board was taken over by this crap you could go back and look that I had just as many complaints as any normal poster. This did not used to be just a venting spot, it was were posters could come on here and have intelligent discussions and actually want the team to win. Can you really say by looking at the comments on here when we are losing that everyone on here even appear to want us to win?

        The collapse sucked, we could not get out of our own way. I now agree that Willie should have been fired. I think he has done a fine job here, however I don’t think he will ever be able to be viewed as successful here unless he wins a WS and will always unfairly be the only one blamed for last season. Maybe in order to move on, he has to move on.

        I have also
        Never liked Heilman
        Thought that we went 1 too many years on Castillo
        Should have brought in another RH bat
        Signed Livan Hernandez
        and the list goes on and on
        However, I don’t think I am some kind of super genius that knows that every move I wanted was the right move and every move that others make is the wrong one.
        I choose not to complain about every little thing and ruin a great blog.

        • gipper91375 says:

          I agree, the blog has changed. Part is the bandwagoners, part is the popularity of the blog and part is simply natural fan frustration that has progressed over the last few years.

          Three seasons ago, the fanbase was thrilled just to see some positive signs with the franchise. Two years ago, the NLCS ended badly, but generally the fanbase was thrilled with the season and ready to build on it.

          Last year was the biggest collapse in the history of baseball. You have got to expect some residual bad feeling from the fanbase after that. PARTICULARLY when nobody was held accountable for the collapse.

          Personally, I’d be far more sanguine about the early season malaise affecting the Mets if the franchise had canned Willie after the collapse.

          The comments are usually better on normal posts…but in-game threads will always be more dramatic as people live and die with every pitch. I’d rather a passionate fanbase than what I have witnessed at games in AZ, Seattle, St. Louis, elsewhere.

          We both (you and I and people like us) should consider whether or not what “ruins a great blog” isn’t people’s overly negative or overly-positive comments, but rather other commenters insisting on starting side arguments about such negativity or positivity.

          Let’s Go Mets!

        • therealsince86 says:

          I disagree, I think you were here and the constant negative stuff started as soon as we lost the game in 06 and has gotten progressively worse until now it is close to junk. Do you think it is a coinecidence that all of a sudden posters like you and me who have been here for years are starting to disapear. If I wanted to hear some one gripe and bitch all the time do you think I would be on here? I am a teacher, I get enough of that during the day.

        • gipper91375 says:

          I think we actually agree on the timing and the reasons.

          Yes, it is getting toxic. But, if the team continues to struggle, the bandwagoners will disappear and us Mets fans will go back to our patented gallows humor.

          There are lots of true Mets fans who just happen to be very frustrated. We’re now into the third decade since a championship. It can grate.

  185. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    Make him hit the deck Billy.

  186. beltransmole says:

    Jimmy Rollins pinch hitting. This has lead-off double written all over it.

  187. wolverine194 says:

    Guys, the home run is coming, you know it, I know it, it’s best to just sit back, relax, and take it

  188. Wheelhouse88 says:

    last night, we were fed a postgame that made you want to believe the Mets bats woke up. They did not. The phillies basically gave the Mets every one of those runs sans Pagan’s hit. 4 hits after that 3rd inning….4 hits.

    And tonight they are no more impressive. Win or lose, this team has YET to impress.

    The starting pitching has been efficient. YES.

    The offense sucks and the bullpen double sucks.

  189. ccmetfan says:

    exactly, nobody remember the 16 inning win against the Phillies?

  190. beltransmole says:

    Where was that pitch???

  191. dwrightisgod says:

    f’ing utley.

    i hate him but he is so damn good

  192. wolverine194 says:

    Wagner is blowing this game

  193. beltransmole says:

    This should go well…

  194. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    Urge to kill, fading, fading.

  195. gipper91375 says:

    Well done, Wags.

  196. atrain311 says:

    One lousy run. That’s all I ask for. One run.

  197. rockets212 says:

    i love reading these posts, its like we already lost. You people are true mets fans, as pessimistic as possible

    • MetsRmilife says:

      What about the last year and 6 games has inspired confidence?

      • pedro4545 says:

        How about the fact that if we score a run in the bottom of the ninth tongiht we are ahead of ATL and PHI in the standings despite getting off to a slow start.

      • rockets212 says:

        i wish i knew about this site when we were losin 90 games every year, i would love reading those posts

        • therealsince86 says:

          Nope this junk did not start until
          1) Mets became an above average team with high expectations.
          2) Bandwagon fans from the Yankee’s jumped ship or started liking baseball.
          3) Matt’s site became very popular
          4) Beltran struck out for last out in 06.
          Since then the comment section has been all down hill, especially when we lose. When we win there are like 50 post but in a close game or if we lose it’s 500.

  198. beltransmole says:

    Good pitch!!

  199. Met_Zombie says:

    time to pray

  200. pedro4545 says:

    Great job Wagner….Now lets get one here.

    By the way, all you “Mets fans” that are writing this team off already are really taking the enjoyment out of this site. That’s why I haven’t been posting as much this season as previous years. If you think we stink, then don’t show up at Shea and don’t bother posting on this site.

    • rogasm says:

      Thanks for taking over this site I’m sure Cerrone is happy he can finally take a break.

    • therealsince86 says:

      I have to agree. I know people have the right to post but can it at least be constructive at times instead of he sucks, they suck we will always lose…….
      Maybe Matt needs to comments sections. One for the doom and glooms and one for the normal posters.

  201. ccmetfan says:

    LETS GO METS!!!

  202. stickguy says:

    Assuming they don’t score, will Wagner go 2?

  203. wolverine194 says:

    Talented reliever with confidence issues, yeah, this should go well for the Mets

  204. beltransmole says:

    Come on Church!

  205. rogasm says:

    It’s funny, Pujols got in Lidge’s head, and I think Molina did that to Heilman.

  206. rockets212 says:

    easily aint a regular so he will get a hit and be stranded

  207. jose8686 says:

    they just roll over and die, its unbelievable…at least take some pitches before grounding out

  208. Wheelhouse88 says:

    ugh. 1 base hit last inning….we’re all brushin our teeth, mets are in the locker room.

    instead we burn more and more bullpen arms for a game that should have been closed shut an hour ago.

    ya gotta believe? i feel like this one is only a matter of time before our bullpen rears its ugly head again.

  209. wolverine194 says:

    Don’t the Mets have anyone on the bench with power?

  210. rockets212 says:

    no wagner in the 10th, thats prob good he sucks in his 2nd inning normally

  211. pedro4545 says:

    Walking Schneider may not be the best thing for us right there considering the way Wagner was dealing.

    • Wheelhouse88 says:

      totally agree. but oh well.

      the bottom line is, this game should have been over 2 times over already. Our cleanup hitter couldn’t hit a sac fly when most needed. Thats all i need to know.

      The bullpen and the lack of offense will be a constant theme all year, until the personel is eventually changed.

  212. beltransmole says:

    Gimme a double down the LF line, come on ND!!

  213. pedro4545 says:

    I’m watching this game on MLB.tv and i swear if Pat Burell homers this inning my computer is going out my 4th story window.

  214. dwrightisgod says:

    philsssh score on a 2 out hit, mets threaten in the bottom half of the 11th and have the bases loaded w/ one out but they dont get a big hit

    would anyone bet against that being the outcome of this game?

  215. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    I was in line for the bathroom when Endy hit his HR against the Yankees in the subway series game last year, that sadly might have been the only time I had a chance to witness an Endy HR.

  216. hyperion4 says:

    You know, I realize that the whole of blogs and forums like this is so that people can vent, but sometimes people forget . . . baseball is a 162-game season. When a team plays flat for 30-40 games, it’s time to say enough is enough, but . . . one bad AB, one bad inning, one bad game, one bad 10-game stretch — baseball is about having a little bit of patience.

    Case in point: Heilman has been a solid late-inning reliever for three seasons now, often sought by other teams in trades, and suddenly people are saying he’s terrible and should be given away for nothing because he’s having a rough patch.

    • dwrightisgod says:

      i agree on heilman but how have the mets played in their last 30-40 regular season games

    • wolverine194 says:

      This current team has been playing like crap for WELL over 8 games. This goes back much farther than that.

    • beltransmole says:

      When has Heilman ever been a solid late-inning reliever recently? Did you watch any of the 2007 season? Did you watch Game 7 of the ‘06 NLCS? I completely disagree.

    • Wheelhouse88 says:

      Uhh….Heilman has sucked for a long time. His numbers are skewed. He gives up big game homeruns almost every time out. Hence Homer Heilman.

      He pitches well when facing a crappy opponent, or has a substantial lead. Check the numbers.

      And heres a newsflash for you. THE METS HAVE BEEN PLAYING BAD FOR 30-40 GAMES NOW. Last season counts….and aside from the AAA Marlins, the Mets have yet to play ONE GAME that we can consider crisp. Not one game has the offense been efficient, complimented by great starting pitching and a shut door bullpen. Not one.

      So maybe thats why were all growing impatient.

  217. wolverine194 says:

    My Saturday tickets will be sold if the Mets F this game up. I’m so disgusted with this s%$t team

  218. rockets212 says:

    this game will only go as long as it takes until schoe pitches

  219. pedro4545 says:

    Unlike most people on this website I feel like I have a love/hate relationship with Heilman. Needless to say, it’s mostly hate right now but I have faith I will love him once again.

    • Wheelhouse88 says:

      You can love him in a new uniform. I don’t want him near the Mets. Hopefully he is trade bait by the allstar break.

      • pedro4545 says:

        Yea but then who takes his place in the pen? If Duaner returns to ‘06 form I understand that….but trading Heilman will only hurt this team if we don’t upgrade somehow.

        • therealsince86 says:

          I was picked on for suggesting that we should have traded him for the Rockies former closer when that was available. I think Heilman has done a decent job but I just have never liked him.

        • metschamps says:

          I agree…Heilman is either lights out or he completely stinks. He seems to not have any middle ground…ever.

          But I’ve always liked Heilman and I will not give up on him or any Met player this early in the season – I think Aaron will get though this bad patch and be the pitcher we saw all Spring Training. …I hope :)

  220. Jay says:

    Every single guy gets ball one from this bullpen…

  221. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    For the love of God, GIDP.

  222. pedro4545 says:

    I feel a double play ball from Feliz….Whether or not we actually turn it is another thing

  223. gipper91375 says:

    Joe Smith = new 8th inning guy until/when/if Heils works out his demons?

  224. dwrightisgod says:

    score a f’ing run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    do it

  225. Wheelhouse88 says:

    For the love of Citi Field, someone put a ball over the fence so we can all go home.

  226. rockets212 says:

    come on jose… do it…do it

  227. dwrightisgod says:

    can they play that clip for the 08 mets

  228. wolverine194 says:

    Come on Mets, surprise everyone, come through here

  229. beltransmole says:

    Heilman, take note. That’s how to get outs.

    • Wheelhouse88 says:

      there is no improving Aaron Heilman. What you see is what you get. He just doesn’t have good stuff. Its simple. He throws lots of balls…..or strikes that get crushed.

      He hasn’t warrented the 8th inning spot, and should not have it anymore.

  230. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    If there was ever a time for Reyes to bunt it would be now, I don’t think this fat toad could ever cleanly field it.

  231. jose8686 says:

    if jose can get on, pagan can bunt him over, david will walk and then we have beltran and delgado. lets go mets!!

  232. Wheelhouse88 says:

    jose doesn’t get on base anymore. where you have you been.

    this is the 2008 mets.

  233. jose--jose-jose-jose says:

    So freekin high, are you kidding me. God!

  234. pedro4545 says:

    Swing the bat Jose

    • jose--jose-jose-jose says:

      but, that ball wasnt eve close. well above the letters.

    • jose8686 says:

      yeah, if you’ve noticed, jose’s “patience” and “working the count” is looking at pitches over the plate, or close to it. he takes way too many called strikes lately…

  235. rockets212 says:

    can we email these posts to willie and the players? maybe if they hear all the fans it’ll fir them up (especially the comments about firing willie)

    • rockets212 says:

      fire

    • jose--jose-jose-jose says:

      oh get over it. Thats the last thing they need. Us idiots filling their head with this kinda crap 24/7. Good suggestion though.

      • Wheelhouse88 says:

        it wouldnt do anything….because the players don’t care. they make millions $$$.

        thats the problem. they dont care. we fans care 100x more.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Do you honestly think that these players don’t care? If you say that I promise i will never respond to another post of yours. i will write you off as completely ignorant and move on.

  236. Wheelhouse88 says:

    the mets are in “roll over and die” mode.

    just end the misery already.

  237. pedro4545 says:

    Wheres Flash Gordon?? I want Flash!!

  238. rockets212 says:

    this where wright can show he really is an mvp candidate, game winning JACK!!!!! 430 ft

  239. rockets212 says:

    this where beltran can show he really is an mvp candidate, game winning JACK!!!!! 430 ft

  240. pedro4545 says:

    Wrights gotta steal here

  241. dwrightisgod says:

    good job david

  242. beltransmole says:

    Here comes the backwards K.

  243. rockets212 says:

    this where beltran can show he really is an mvp candidate, game winning hit

  244. marvelousmarv says:

    I gotta study and I can’t study! Its April for god sakes!

  245. rockets212 says:

    hes not gunna get a fastball he can sit on the breakin stuff

  246. Wheelhouse88 says:

    shocker.

  247. Mitten says:

    i respect beltran for the bat slam atleast

  248. dwrightisgod says:

    7 months later and wright is still the only guy playing baseball out there

  249. Metskin says:

    Man, another season of Ray Cantena commercials. Can hardly wait…

  250. pedro4545 says:

    And I slam the television remote down in disgust as Beltran strikes out swinging……

    • Mitten says:

      good news is if beltran could hit the ball as hard as he could hit the ground we’d win the game…ha

  251. marvelousmarv says:

    Oh boy. Carlos…remiscing about Game 7 are we.

  252. backinbusiness says:

    Are the rally towels giving anyone else bad flashbacks? I’m sure it’s because I (dreadfully, temporarily) live in Philly, but I completely associate those things with Phillies home games in the heart of the collapse. I’m actually glad I’m not at Shea.

    Well….at least Beltran threw a bat? Though I very much like his (generally) reliable quiet confidence.

  253. Wheelhouse88 says:

    for those of you keeping count, thats 3 RISP left stranded by Carlos Beltran in 3 innings.

    what a cleanup hitter.

  254. beltransmole says:

    Shocker.

  255. Mister Koo says:

    Can someone please tell them that they don’t have to wait until there is 2 outs to get a man on base?

  256. ebelosa says:

    anyone not know that was coming?

    this is like watching a retard trying to hump a chair leg…it doesnt look pretty, and it sure as hell doesn’t get anything done.

  257. Darryl Strawberry says:

    This team just does not want to win. Here’s where we give the Phillies the game. I’m guessing a walk or two then a key hit.

  258. Wheelhouse88 says:

    they honestly don’t deserve to win this game.

    they have had 2348329423 chances to put this thing away and fail to do so over and over and over again.

  259. backinbusiness says:

    Cole Hamels has a batting helmet on…an “accidental” shot to his hand would work OK for me.

    • wolverine194 says:

      What difference does it make, it’s not like the Mets could hit whatever POS pitcher the Phils would throw out there in his place

  260. wolverine194 says:

    Yup, this’ll be the inning they blow it

  261. pedro4545 says:

    Guess Willie didn’t learn anythign from completely overusing Joe Smith last year….although I will take 5 more innings of Joe Smith than 1 from Blowenweiss.

  262. miker94 says:

    mr. un-clutch!

    • jose--jose-jose-jose says:

      Puts up 2 great years in a row, has 2 bad at bats today, and now he sucks. Great logic.

      ps. I love Eric Brunlett.

  263. Darth Hernandez says:

    they look so tight and almost look scared.. The mentality of this team needs to change.. They won’t win 90 games if they continue to lock up in clutch situations..

    I would really like to see someone like HOJO or another coach start to take more of a leadership role.. Cause it really doesn’t seem like the team responds well to Willie

  264. dwrightisgod says:

    o my god!!!!!!!!!!

  265. marvelousmarv says:

    Games over!

  266. wolverine194 says:

    I hate this team. Literally. I HATE this team. Just a horrible collection of players

    • therealsince86 says:

      Why do you still watch if you hate this team? I realistically don’t know.

      • wolverine194 says:

        I’m a masachist

      • therealsince86 says:

        You can even look back on this post, I have said somethings that are negative but seriously do you EVER say ANYTHING positive about the team?

        • wolverine194 says:

          When they do something positive I’m compliment them on it.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Come on are you serious. GIve an example of 1 positive post that you have made. How the hell did we even score without doing something right?

        • wolverine194 says:

          Great pitching Schoe!! There, there’s your example.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Frame that one, funny thing is I had to come back up to this post just to see if you did.

  267. pedro4545 says:

    Wow this is over.

  268. dwrightisgod says:

    the only chance the mets have is if bruntlet bunts into a triple play

  269. MetsRmilife says:

    Thank God for Bruntlett

  270. marvelousmarv says:

    Hamel gets a hit….and the Phillies win the East, Phillies win the East, Phillies win the East

  271. wolverine194 says:

    Great, Schoe is coming in. Goodnight everybody!

  272. dwrightisgod says:

    here comes the show haha

    its actually funny b/c we all know what hes going to do

  273. pedro4545 says:

    Thank god for Bruntlett theres still hope

  274. backinbusiness says:

    Do you think Schneider was just saying to DWright, “Hey man, my bad, but even worse, now I gotta catch Schoe?”

  275. Darth Hernandez says:

    hahahahahahah… OH nOOOOOOOOOOOOOO….. Man this is gonna be crazy..

    But he will come through…

    POP up and and ground out to second.. inning over

  276. KGrules says:

    Im sorry but the mets just dont look like they have it this year…i dont care if its early…they looked this way last year at the end and its seems to have carried over. Reyes is a huge issue but no one except for church and pagan have had clutch hits this year….wright, beltran, delgado, reyes….this team is a mess if these guys dont get the bats going…

    -KG

  277. rockets212 says:

    if schoe can get us out of this without a run i wont say anything negative about him for a week

  278. Mitten says:

    this team is a freaking train wreck.

  279. jose--jose-jose-jose says:

    ok, who would u rather have in this situation? Tell us before you just ciritze willie. You keep the side arming righty in there. Shcow suks, but you gotta use the lefty against Utley and Howard. Not a side arming righty which makes the ball look like its on a tee against a strong lefty.

  280. dwrightisgod says:

    at least when he inevitably blows the game maybe we can shoe him the door and release him

  281. Darth Hernandez says:

    If we all think positively then he will come through..

  282. therealsince86 says:

    Not a big Show fan at all, Can Perez or Santana come in to relieve here?

  283. jose8686 says:

    this is a sickening way to spend a thursday night….why do we all put ourselves through this? i could be out drunk and trying to get laid, and acting like a normal 25 yr old american kid who gets off on the final four and the rose bowl. instead im sitting staring at a damn dot on my screen ruining my health…

  284. marvelousmarv says:

    Shoe, this is Dr. Roid from California, remember all that “stuff” I gave you well it makes you throw it right over the plate

  285. backinbusiness says:

    Who do we have left in the pen? Only Muniz?

  286. MetsRmilife says:

    Does this team drive anyone else to drink?

  287. dwrightisgod says:

    give me a groundball to reyes please

  288. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    heres utley and howard to end the game

  289. jose--jose-jose-jose says:

    EAT YOUR WORDS EVERYONE.

    :)

  290. kkwik22 says:

    OH MY LORD WHERE DID THAT COME FROM!

  291. marvelousmarv says:

    So since our bullpen is used to the max in the 2nd week, can we take the rest of the summer off. I’d rather not see it through.

  292. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    Guys, my feet are frozen to the ground, I think hell froze over.

  293. saltzy007 says:

    YEEE HA…

    Score a run and lets go home…

  294. rockets212 says:

    im not sayin a thing about schoe negative for a week (unless he blows it in the next inning if he pitches)

  295. backinbusiness says:

    SCHOE TIME! I’m proud of him! It’s nice to see him with the jumbo fist pump actually feeling good about himself.

    Now please Mets, do something here, we are out of pen minus Muniz….let the Schoe be happy…if he comes in for 2…no good.

  296. pedro4545 says:

    YEAAAA……Lets “SHOE” him some love tonight.At least for one night….

    Delgado walkoff…heard it here first…..

  297. dwrightisgod says:

    ok now i’m glass 1/2 full

    i think we will score this inning

  298. wolverine194 says:

    I’d be more than happy to be wrong about the Mets crappy bullpen, but they gotta stop blowing leads!

    • therealsince86 says:

      We finally agree on something. The pen is what took the air out of the team and us in September.

  299. beltransmole says:

    Wooooooo!!!!!

  300. jose8686 says:

    cmon cmon cmon cmon

  301. marvelousmarv says:

    Keep talking negatively! It seems to help.

    • beltransmole says:

      Of course it does. If nothing else it allows you to let yourself down easy when bad things happen. :D

  302. beltransmole says:

    Should have gotten that on Tuesday.

  303. ccmetfan says:

    i predict a delgado walk off hr

  304. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    im sorry but i just dont have a good feeling about this game. im confident that they will bounce back and beat the brewers 2 out of 3 though and figgy will do horrible and claudio vargas will get called up

  305. DaWrightStuff says:

    am i dreaming?? Show got outs?

    • Nate W. says:

      nah, he gets lefties out just fine…

      The problem is once he faces Howard Willie will leave him in to get burned.

      Muniz and Sosa left in the pen and Sosa’s pitched 2 2/3 in the last two days. If Utley and Howard get up again I hope Oliver Perez is in the game…

    • Aquadealer says:

      Amazing when Willie puts Shoe in a situation to succed instead of setting him up for failure…. he gets the job done

  306. backinbusiness says:

    Flash, we can hit. Seriously.

  307. rockets212 says:

    how nice would it be to let schoe get the win, he deserves this win he actually did his job

  308. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    C’mon Delgado, take Flush Gordon deep.

  309. pedro4545 says:

    Flash Gordon…Just the guy I’ve been waiting for all night.

  310. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    that was an amazing walk off home run by delgado

  311. dwrightisgod says:

    why do we make garbage philly relievers look so good

  312. wolverine194 says:

    Mets have to hit a homer, that’s the ONLY way they’re winning this game.

  313. Mister Koo says:

    After 2 outs, there will be 2 singles to put runners on first and third. Then a strikeout to end then inning.

  314. ccmetfan says:

    yeah i know

  315. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    gordon is looking good unfortunately

  316. kkwik22 says:

    What the hell!!! Put me in coach these guys can’t hit.

  317. backinbusiness says:

    Easley coming on to 2 Legit 2 Quit rocks my world.

  318. dwrightisgod says:

    ok back to glass 1/2 empty

  319. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    wow

  320. wolverine194 says:

    Did we make that easy enough for ya Gordan? Yeah? Good

  321. stickguy says:

    oh oh. Gordan has the curve working, and the Mets haven’t hit one of those all night.

    Who the heck is left to pitch? Sosa is probably still tired from last game, Muniz? Everyone else is done.

    This could be a long weekend, especially if Figgy gets chased tomorrow..

    Man, this team is offensively challlenged.

    Prediction: BP melts down again, Phils score 3, then the Mets get a quick 2 and leave the tying run on 3rd!

  322. Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

    What Sosa? Why not leave Schoe in to face Howard? At least let him face the lefty.

  323. Aquadealer says:

    Why put Sosa in to face Howard?????? You let Shoe face Howard…….

  324. marvelousmarv says:

    There’s just no “fight” on this team. What is up?

  325. ghobot says:

    extra inning games at home are so tense , but man the payoff is great! lets go mets!

  326. therealsince86 says:

    I just don’t see our pen being able to keep puting up the 0’s. Especially with Dr. Jeckly Mr. Sosa coming in.

  327. MetsRmilife says:

    Scho NO!

  328. pedro4545 says:

    Beer run be right back…hopefull this game will still be tied up

  329. marvelousmarv says:

    And the next post will win a prize if you can guess the turning point of the game

  330. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    homerun right here

  331. wolverine194 says:

    Say it isn’t Schoe!

  332. Wheelhouse88 says:

    this is prolonged agony…..change the channel.

  333. marvelousmarv says:

    And yes we have a winner, this blogger knew that putting in Sosa was the turning point of the game!

  334. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    red is the worst flavor of tootsie pops

  335. backinbusiness says:

    Howard though that was a bomb. F you (and I like Howard).

    Look, there is no good option here. Schoe is bad for the 2nd inning, Sosa is worse against LH and is tired. Muniz? I think Schoe is the right call for Howard ONLY.

  336. marvelousmarv says:

    That was random

  337. wolverine194 says:

    I hate this little bastard. What does he weigh? 90 pounds?

  338. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    does so taguchi piss off anyone else in here besides me

  339. MetsRmilife says:

    Annnnnnnd. Gary jinxes Schoe. This doesnt end well

  340. rockets212 says:

    great gary gave schoe a compliment that means hes sukin it up

  341. beltransmole says:

    Just think, if it wasn’t for Heilman and his garbage, this game would be over. He blows.

    • Mets Fan on Wall St. says:

      Yup, I have tickets to tomorrow’s game and Figgy better pitch a gem or I’m going to be headed home ASAP to catch Rangers-Devils game 2.

  342. wolverine194 says:

    Schoe is always at his most dangerous when he gets the first two outs.

  343. jose8686 says:

    who knows, maybe this’ll end up on a mets classic one day

  344. ccmetfan says:

    we need shawn green and julio franco

  345. marvelousmarv says:

    OMG 2 straight outs. Thats a bad omen. We need people on base to drive the fans crazy … this is bad. Jenkins… be nice.

  346. backinbusiness says:

    It is nice to see fans cheering for Schoe (even though I am as much of a hypocrite as they are).

  347. gottabeliev4evr says:

    Where is Bugs Bunny?

  348. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    i thiink at this point i would rather go with a random balding fat old guy than heilman. i guarantee u if we put someone like that in the 8th this would be over

  349. JohanItOver says:

    Lets give this guy some credit here…he’s pitchen
    pretty well right now

    everyone is so quick to kill this guy…give him some credit

    o wait, mets fans only harp on the negative

    forgot

    • Aquadealer says:

      Everyone isnt so quick to kill the guy……we just want Willie to use him in situations where he can suceed

  350. wolverine194 says:

    Wow, double switch. Don’t let your head explode Willie

    • backinbusiness says:

      I looked away for a second and it looked like maybe Church was coming in to pitch. He was a college pitcher, you know.

      :)

  351. JohanItOver says:

    nice job show!!!

  352. therealsince86 says:

    Dare i say it, Castillo would have made that play :)

  353. rockets212 says:

    y u take church out? hes out 2 of our 3 rbis today

    • therealsince86 says:

      At least he used the double switch. People are always complaining that he does not use it more so there you go.

    • hyperion4 says:

      I knew someone was going to find something to complain about.

  354. pedro4545 says:

    GUYS THINGS ARE LOOKING UP:

    I just ran across the street to buy a 6 pack of Sam Adams Light…Paid with a $20 bill, got back my $20, pluse the $13 change back….So I just got a free sixer of beer and made $13.

    This is a good omen….WE WILL WIN THIS GAME

  355. marvelousmarv says:

    Don’t you see why we’re negative. If you didn’t see why then you didn’t experience 2007

  356. rockets212 says:

    so schoe or heilman in the 8th inning?

  357. Nate W. says:

    wow Willie, I’m impressed!!

    pulled Schoe after the lefties and managed to execute a double switch at the same time. Looks like Willie has learned something…

    • rockets212 says:

      nope willie is still an idiot even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once and a while.

  358. wolverine194 says:

    Come on Sosa, get this damn out

  359. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    i think muniz should be in right now just to finish off the inning.

    now who else do we got in the pen?

  360. rockets212 says:

    u kow what this means? figeroa must go deep tomorrow b/c well have no BP tomorrow

    • Nate W. says:

      Muniz could be optioned for a long man from AAA.

      Joselo Diaz is due to start for NO tomorrow, Stokes would start on Sat.

      or Muniz could serve as the long man tomorrow.

      Good thing its a friday, if the game blows I can just ignore it…

  361. marvelousmarv says:

    Okay wait i’m in Texas. I dont have the game. I’m following Yahoo. What happened. I”m frozen here.

  362. wolverine194 says:

    It’s alright, don’t worry about the bullpen, I’m sure Figueroa will give the Mets a very workmanlike 4 innings tomorrow

  363. miker94 says:

    there have already been about 57 things that willie did in this game proving that he is simply HORRIBLE at managing in game situations. the last being double switching and taking out church. one of 2 guys who can actually hit on this team. should have used someone else. bad move moron!

    • wolverine194 says:

      Can’t kill him, Church just batted

    • pedro4545 says:

      The great thing is if we score right now it doesn’t really matter.

    • Aquadealer says:

      I want Willie gone as much as anyone but hes actually managed this game pretty well. You pull Church because he was the next to last out and Sosawould have been up second this inning.

    • hyperion4 says:

      Uh, let’s see . . . take out Beltran . . . guess not . . . Pagan . . . nope, he’s coming up in the order . . . put your last catcher in . . . nope . . . Castillo . . . nope, he’s hurt . . .

      Why don’t you do what a manager has to do and consider the possible alternatives before you start calling people morons. It’s an extra-inning game, you gotta start double-switching. Ryan Church isn’t a Hall-of-Famer yet.

  364. Nate W. says:

    I fear for Jorge Sosa’s elbow and shoulder…

    The season is 11 days old and he’s working on appearance number 6. And he’s tallied 7 IP, which is more than everyone on the Mets but Santana, Maine, and Perez.

    Yikes!

  365. ghobot says:

    i think i mentioned this before. wrights defense has been very nice this year so far. i know its early, but hes getting to balls. the next level he needs to achieve is also those really great smart plays like when santana got to that bunt in his second start, wright should have gone back to the bag. if he could pull that off, and cut down on the throwing errors, i would be really impressed with his improvement.

    • beltransmole says:

      His glove isn’t normally the problem. It’s the routine throws to 1B that give him trouble from time to time.

  366. beltransmole says:

    I may be in the minority but I don’t have a problem with Shoenweis. He’s shaky here and there but he was the only guy who could get outs at the end of last season. He should have gotten out of Tuesday’s game until the error. I’d take him over Heilman any day of the week.

  367. therealsince86 says:

    Such as ……..

  368. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    how about we dont swing at the freakin first pitch again

  369. wolverine194 says:

    Holy sh$%! Can we at least let the Mets pitchers catch their breath?

  370. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    wait so now we only have one guy in our pen?

    this game is over in 2 innings max

  371. Mister Koo says:

    3 pitches, 2 outs.

  372. dwrightisgod says:

    remember when reyes used to hit for power

  373. backinbusiness says:

    reyes walk off (or at least a big hit) would do a lot for him mentally, i would think. go jose!

  374. ccmetfan says:

    who else couldve left? beltran or pagan?

  375. wolverine194 says:

    Keep Running!!!!!

  376. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    hernandez is such a homo

  377. dwrightisgod says:

    nice job jose

  378. kkwik22 says:

    AWWW GODDAMIT So Close!!!!!! lol

  379. Mister Koo says:

    Of course, the double comes with 2 outs.

  380. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    he should have hit that one out

  381. pedro4545 says:

    YES JOSE……Come on Angel in the Outfield……

  382. rockets212 says:

    now its time for pagan to be the clutch guy hes been all year

  383. NY Cuban says:

    Pagan will win this!

  384. backinbusiness says:

    You guys are absurd. Great job Jose–and now our RBI man is up! (sad, but true).

  385. JohanItOver says:

    god damn how wasnt that out

    lets go Pagan!!!!!!!!

  386. wolverine194 says:

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  387. dwrightisgod says:

    woohoo!!!!!

    might’ve got a bad call

  388. ccmetfan says:

    pagan with the game winner!!!!!!!!!

  389. beltransmole says:

    Come on Pagan, DRIVE HIM IN AND END IT!!

  390. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    yayayayayayayyayayyayayayayyayayaya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

  391. Mister Koo says:

    yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

  392. backinbusiness says:

    I ADORE PAGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  393. JohanItOver says:

    F$CK YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  394. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    he was our but i dont give a damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    i love you pagan!!!!!!!!!

  395. Nate W. says:

    yes!!!

    and this game needed to end now, the pen was gone…

  396. wolverine194 says:

    YESS!!!!!!!!!!

  397. JohanItOver says:

    THATS WHAT ITS ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  398. gipper91375 says:

    Boy, I hope that gets Jose going.

  399. rockets212 says:

    trade alou now!!!!!!!! we got our left fielder!!!!!

  400. pedro4545 says:

    WOOOOOOOOO……how was that play so close at the plate?????? WHO CARES GOOOD WIN BOYSSSSSSS

  401. marvelousmarv says:

    Mets win the ….game!

  402. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    out**

  403. ccmetfan says:

    Reyes is happy again!!!!!!11

  404. gipper91375 says:

    Is it wrong to worship a Pagan?

  405. rockets212 says:

    trade alou now!!!!!!!! we got our left fielder!!!!!
    trade alou now!!!!!!!! we got our left fielder!!!!!
    trade alou now!!!!!!!! we got our left fielder!!!!!
    trade alou now!!!!!!!! we got our left fielder!!!!!
    trade alou now!!!!!!!! we got our left fielder!!!!!
    trade alou now!!!!!!!! we got our left fielder!!!!!
    trade alou now!!!!!!!! we got our left fielder!!!!!

  406. NY Cuban says:

    Pagan was the best pick up of the off-season. (other than Santana)

  407. beltransmole says:

    Pagan is THE MAN!!!!!!

  408. pedro4545 says:

    Once agian……in the words of the legendary Ric Flair:

    WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

  409. ghobot says:

    nice way to pick up heilman, bullpen. good to see pagan playing so well. nice to see a home grown met having early success!

    dude is so calm!!!

  410. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    send us an angel!
    i like that

  411. stickguy says:

    I love Pagan.

    Willie will prove himself to be an idiot if he sticks Castillo back in the 2 hole.

  412. I start the thread of praising Angel and he delivers!!! LETS GO METS!!!! YES!!!

  413. backinbusiness says:

    FYI: On the Phillies broadcast, they are NOT saying “bad call.” They are saying only “Coste though he got him….at any rate, game over.” I like that announcer.

    • skylog says:

      that was harry calas. he is the only one i like. for good measure though, on their post game show mitch williams and the other guy are just flat out calling him out.

  414. therealsince86 says:

    This team shows no heart, they just don’t want to win.
    The Phillies that is.

  415. Mister Koo says:

    It was a tie. His hand and the tag on his back was virtually at the same time. The call could have gone either way. But a tie goes to the runner.

  416. Wheelhouse88 says:

    IF LUIS CASTILLO EVER FINDS A HOME BACK IN THE 2 HOLE, WILLIE RANDOLPH SHOULD BE FIRED ON THE SPOT.

    KEEP ANGEL PAGAN BATTING 2ND. BURY CASTILLO AT THE BOTTOM OF THE ORDER.

    • ghobot says:

      :(

      is that what you are thinking about ? come on. . .

    • darkstar73 says:

      why negativity after a win, fans like you love negativity way too much, enjoy the win, its baseball, we’re here to root on the Mets to win.

  417. NY Cuban says:

    I better not see Castillo in the 2 hole when he comes back.

    • Mister Koo says:

      Pagan is technically a rookie with not enough service time. Hasn’t earned his stripes. When Castillo comes back, Pagan is out of the 2 spot.

      • Wheelhouse88 says:

        And that is the problem with your thinking and Willie’s

        Too wrapped up in earning stripes, senority, etc. YOU GO WITH THE HOT HAND….whatever gets it done.

        Castillo stinks. Pagan is tearing the cover off the ball right now. If they move Castillo back there, it just shows how stupid this organization really is.

        Too wrapped up in feelings, not in winning.

        • therealsince86 says:

          Read bellow, Willie if anything while he has been here has been one to stay with the hot hand. Usually even for too long.

    • rockets212 says:

      you will

      • therealsince86 says:

        You know after watching Willie for the last couple of years I think he may not. Willie loves to ride the hot hand. I would not be surprised at all to see Pagan stay in the 2 spot until he and Castillo level out.

  418. gottabeliev4evr says:

    OMG! Thank You! I will live for at least one more day!

    So behind in projects. Can’t do sh&$ when the Mets are playin’.

    • Web says:

      I hear you there. I gotta start a paper that due tomorrow now that the game is over. I’d take a Mets win over a good grade any day.

  419. backinbusiness says:

    Jose’s “exhale” after the “safe” call was hopefully his rejuvenation visualized.

  420. rockets212 says:

    can someone take a sledgehammer to castillo’s knees so pagan can keep hittin 2nd

    trade alou now!!!!!!!! we got our left fielder!!!!!
    trade alou now!!!!!!!! we got our left fielder!!!!!
    trade alou now!!!!!!!! we got our left fielder!!!!!

  421. PAGANE needs to stay in the 2 hole – PERIOD!!

  422. therealsince86 says:

    OK, Guys frame this one from me too, although I think that Castillo will eventually come back to his career averages and is still a great #2 hitter, Pagan deserves to stay at the #2 spot for now. I sure hope Pagan can keep this up the entire year, seems like a great way to replace Alou for good next season. Then you have money to go get Tex or CC.

  423. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    i think lee mazilli should be our manager. Anyone else?

    • Wheelhouse88 says:

      Agree 100% because he has different reactions and responses to different situations.

      Willie is a broken record.

    • zen says:

      that’s just what i was thinking after an amazing thrilling win

    • therealsince86 says:

      Can Willie and the rest of us not at least get a break from the fire Willie campaign when we beat the Phillies in extra innings?

  424. I understand Pagan will go back down when Castillo returns..its all good…but man Pagan is good…smooth …like a mini Pujols..Im really liking him and Church thus far.

    • Steal Home Jose! says:

      Uh…I don’t think Pagan is going down when Castillo comes back. Moises MAYBE, but not Castillo.

      • stickguy says:

        No, not to AAA, just down in the batting order.

        He is going no where this season (unless he really tails off). Clark is gone when ALou comes back.

      • backinbusiness says:

        i think (hope) he meant in the batting order.
        surely it is brady clark who is going down.

  425. Steal Home Jose! says:

    That’s 2 in a row. We win tomorrow, that’s called a winning streak. It has happened before, and it will happen again….

  426. shea1012 says:

    Anyone want to see the boys on Sunday or any day next week versus the Nats? 30% off tickets – My two seasons – Can’t make next week

  427. stickguy says:

    Pagan keeps playing like this and he is a keeper.

    How about a rotation next year featuring F Mart, Church, Pagan and Beltran in the OF?

    Well, when Willie does bog the order back down with Luis in the 2 hole, at least we get Pagans bat back in a run producing slot.

  428. RomanWarHelmet says:

    I am not ready to anoint Pagan yet as the savior but I am very pleased with how he is playing…when Alou comes back he has to stay up…Alou, Church and Pagan can all get ABs and Alou is the righty off the bench on days Pagan plays…As for Castillo in the 2 hole…I still think its his spot..but if we do move him down…bat him 8th and he will get on base a ton and Reyes will come up with a runner on 2b not bad with Reyes Pagan/Church Wright Beltran afterwards

  429. A7Xrhcp57 says:

    y does willie always seem pissed off. i just dont understand him

    • Slob says:

      If Willie looks determined and serious he’s “pissed off”. If he doesn’t look determined and serious he’s branded as a dummy who isn’t taking the situation seriously. He can’t get a break.

  430. Mister Koo says:

    Oh god, Wilie just used the word “skillsets” to describe Pagan.

  431. pedro4545 says:

    ANGEL IN THE OUTFIELD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  432. Runshouse says:

    Pagan in the 2 hole let’s Reyes get pitches to hit. Leave him there.

  433. jscand says:

    Who was that guy who decided to trade for Angel Pagan? Oh yeah, Omar Minaya. Now can everyone get off his back for a minute?

  434. backinbusiness says:

    I hope Matt gives a “game ball” to Schoe. I really am impressed.

  435. Prismo says:

    HUGE win for our boys.
    If Jose gets going I’m pretty sure that everything will fall in line. (except maybe the crappy relief…)

    • stickguy says:

      expect to see Sanchez and maybe even Kunz sooner rather than later.

      What the heck happened to Heilman? He looked great in his first few appearances. Remember the “make him the closer” threads?

  436. therealsince86 says:

    Last comment today,
    For all the doom and gloom, we are .500, in 1st place of the real teams (no way marlins keep winning), while the Phillies and Braves are under .500.
    We have a winning record vs. the Phillies this season and have beaten the division leader 2 out of the 3 times they have lost.
    Guys this may or may not be a great team but this should be a fun season and it’s still incredibly early. Enjoy being in the hunt for 3 years in a row, how long has it been since we could have said that?

    • darkstar73 says:

      a long time thereal, a long time. Gotta give credit where credit is due (even though i’ll probably be branded an apologist) but Omar has a knack for picking up these never woulda given the guy a 2nd look kind of player who is ready to contribute. Lovin’ Pagan, you gotta love him.

  437. ccmetfan says:

    Yeah considering the Mets sold Pagan to the Cubs and then got him back

    • darkstar73 says:

      what did he do for the Cubs? Nothing. He may just be turning into a good player now, lets hope he keeps it up. Players develop you know…that means they get better….

      • cousinrk says:

        We all need some perspective. I’m thrilled with Pagan but this is guy they got for nothing and because he’s got 9 RBI’s in 8 games people are talking about him in the future outfield, just like they are ready to dump any player who hasn’t pitched or hit well in 8 games. Its just 8 games, and its too early to make any judgements.

        Its gonna be a wild season, and hopefully the true talent of this squad will rise above the other teams in the division but let’s relax from making rash judgments good or bad in mid-april.

        • zen says:

          give steve phillips some credit too. he drafted pagan.

        • darkstar73 says:

          oh I agree, i’m not saying Pagan is a savior or anything, but he sure has contributed nicely to this team in the early going, it’s just nice to see, that’s all. And like I said, hopefully he keeps it up.

  438. Necciai27 says:

    What mattered most here most, ultimately, was that the Mets put one in the W column against the Phillies and took two of three in the series.

  439. ok I don’t wanna say I told you so….but….on tuesday before castillo was hurt I mentioned what if pagan hit second…and some of you thought I should give castillo a chance.
    Ha!
    metsblog.com/2008/04/08/news-wright-on-letterman-april-14/#comments

  440. ghobot says:

    only a matter of time before people start killing angel pagan. over under, july.

  441. darkstar73 says:

    one thing I do have to mention, why are fans booing a reliever when he comes into the game, in extra innings, with the game on the line? Booing Show in that position is quite possibly the stupidest thing Mets fans have done in a while, and I’m soooo glad he got those big outs. Booing anyone in that position is just stupid to me. Game on the line, and you’re booing the guy? You HAVE to put the good of the team ahead of your feelings for one particular player, and booing in that instance I think is potentially hurting the team.

    • yup..I agree. I am definitely not a Show fan..I can’t stand him 85% of the time…but give him a chance. When he effs up, then you can boo his a$$ off the field. For instance, was it really necessary to boo him during opening day intros?

      • darkstar73 says:

        yeah, i don’t boo, but i mean, if a guy messes up, continually messes up, sure, boo him I guess, but opening day intros? thats ridiculous, and when he comes into the game, before he even does anything, in a HUGE spot like that? STUPID, its like Met fans are more concerned with voicing their grievances then supporting their team towards a win. I’m just glad he came through.

    • sincekindergarten says:

      Schoeneweis defnintely answered the bell last night, and he deserves praise for it. I thought that the hand he got as he was coming off the field, as Sosa was coming in, was well-deserved. We all get on him pretty good when he screws up. There’s another side to that coin, fellow members.

      Scott, you did good. Real good. Kudos from my perspective north of the Mohawk (River).

      Also, whoda thunk our two corner outfielders would have driven in the runs? The way some people were raking Omar over the coals for getting rid of the ‘tude that is Milledge, and getting Ryan Church in return, you’d think Willie Mays was traded away–in his prime.

      Maybe the return of Reyes to form . . . ? But a great win for the team.

  442. QueenOfQueens says:

    Excellent point darkstar…

  443. The Glider says:

    So where exactly in the batting order do you Mets fans want to bat Castillo when he comes back (assuming you want to bat Pagan in the 2 spot)?

    • darkstar73 says:

      batting order is overrated, Pagan will contribute wherever he hits, Castillo will be fine as well in the long run, I’m not sure this is something people should be worrying themselves with.

      • The Glider says:

        Do you actually think that Willie is going to bat Castillo 7th in the line-up? Or 8th? . . . after signing him to a 4 year contract!!!!!! No way. That won’t happen. When Castillo is healthy, he returns to the line-up batting 2nd and Pagan goes back to 6th or 7th in the line-up.

        I”m not saying you’re “wrong.” I’m just saying that won’t happen.

        • metzelaar says:

          Well Willie didn’t sign him to the contract, so I don’t think he cares much about that.

          Additionally, if you’re a good manager, you don’t care what kind of money the guy makes, or what kind of contract he has. You make the lineup and rotation based on ability and who is doing their job. Castillo hasn’t cut it so far, and Pagan has been, in my opinion, the only clutch player on the Mets thus far (Santana excluded, naturally). He came through with BIG hits today, including THE big hit. He deserves to stay with the team, and stay in the 2 hole.

    • metzelaar says:

      8th. As mentioned, if he gets on, pitcher bunts him over, Reyes comes up with a RISP. Seems ideal.

  444. Metsnumba57 says:

    I just came back from the game and what a game it was. Both starting pitchers were good and the bullpen was ok expect for Heilman and Gordon. Overall I thought it was a good game for both teams. The Mets hitting needs to wake up more. If it wasn’t for Pagan,we might of lost. Beltran looks lost at the plate. Another thing about tonight at the stadium was that the Met fans were booing the hell out of the Philly fans.Also people were throwing stuff at the Philly fans lmaoo. I also forgot that a fat kid was running through the stadium saying Mets rule lmaoo.

    Mets winn woooooooooooooooooo