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	<title>Comments on: Read: Whose Bullpen isn&#8217;t their Achilles heel</title>
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		<title>By: 4JoeOrsulak</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/11/read-whose-bullpen-isnt-their-achilles-heel/#comment-132573</link>
		<dc:creator>4JoeOrsulak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed.  The Mets seem to have an excellent bullpen, IMHO, if it is well used.

Willie managed it well in the rubber game of the Philly series, making no obvious blunders.  I believe Schow was the last man in the pen--save for Muniz--which is as it should be.

If Duaner Sanchez becomes an effective set-up man again, our bullpen should be close to top-of-the-line.  Wagner, Sanchez, Heilman, Feliciano, with Smith and Schow as our (RL)OOGYs. and Muniz or Sosa as our long man looks pretty sweet to me.

I wouldn&#039;t give up on Heilman yet.  Schow was interviewed yesterday and set the record straight.  Heilman has been a very effective reliever throughout his career, to the point where he is a borderline starter.  He should be fine.  People who rely exclusively on anecdotal evidence to talk about how he &quot;only pitches well when the game is out of reach&quot; or how he &quot;always blows that really big game&quot; or selectively recall games where he performs poorly should be greeted with a good dose of skepticism, to say the least.  We&#039;ll see how this season plays out for Heilman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed.  The Mets seem to have an excellent bullpen, IMHO, if it is well used.</p>
<p>Willie managed it well in the rubber game of the Philly series, making no obvious blunders.  I believe Schow was the last man in the pen&#8211;save for Muniz&#8211;which is as it should be.</p>
<p>If Duaner Sanchez becomes an effective set-up man again, our bullpen should be close to top-of-the-line.  Wagner, Sanchez, Heilman, Feliciano, with Smith and Schow as our (RL)OOGYs. and Muniz or Sosa as our long man looks pretty sweet to me.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t give up on Heilman yet.  Schow was interviewed yesterday and set the record straight.  Heilman has been a very effective reliever throughout his career, to the point where he is a borderline starter.  He should be fine.  People who rely exclusively on anecdotal evidence to talk about how he &#8220;only pitches well when the game is out of reach&#8221; or how he &#8220;always blows that really big game&#8221; or selectively recall games where he performs poorly should be greeted with a good dose of skepticism, to say the least.  We&#8217;ll see how this season plays out for Heilman.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk to any good statistician, and they&#039;ll tell you that when looking for trends, you should remove outliers.

Yeah I&#039;m juggling numbers and 7 pitchers is not a statistically significant number, and you can&#039;t remove outliers when calculating a mean and probably a dozen other reasons why what I did was kinda bogus

... But the point is that the current overall 4.55 ERA of the BP is not likely to be a good predictor for the rest of the season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk to any good statistician, and they&#8217;ll tell you that when looking for trends, you should remove outliers.</p>
<p>Yeah I&#8217;m juggling numbers and 7 pitchers is not a statistically significant number, and you can&#8217;t remove outliers when calculating a mean and probably a dozen other reasons why what I did was kinda bogus</p>
<p>&#8230; But the point is that the current overall 4.55 ERA of the BP is not likely to be a good predictor for the rest of the season.</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>though now, with low fog and increased humidity (not to mention my knee aches), maybe not</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>though now, with low fog and increased humidity (not to mention my knee aches), maybe not</p>
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		<title>By: metsftw</title>
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		<dc:creator>metsftw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that&#039;s called cherry picking. you can&#039;t just arbitrarily remove 2 guys to prove a point. but i agree that the bullpen will be fine. 2 runs in 6 innings against a loaded philly offense isn&#039;t bad at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that&#8217;s called cherry picking. you can&#8217;t just arbitrarily remove 2 guys to prove a point. but i agree that the bullpen will be fine. 2 runs in 6 innings against a loaded philly offense isn&#8217;t bad at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, to back up the exchange between Wagner and Heilman that &quot;It could be worse&quot;... just look at Trevor Hoffman&#039;s line so far this season.

0-2,   3.2IP,   5ER (12.27 ERA), 1BS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, to back up the exchange between Wagner and Heilman that &#8220;It could be worse&#8221;&#8230; just look at Trevor Hoffman&#8217;s line so far this season.</p>
<p>0-2,   3.2IP,   5ER (12.27 ERA), 1BS</p>
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		<title>By: therealsince86</title>
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		<dc:creator>therealsince86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Church made the last out before he was double switched out so how is it possible that Delgado made the last out the inning before, yet we would not have seen the pitcher&#039;s spot come up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Church made the last out before he was double switched out so how is it possible that Delgado made the last out the inning before, yet we would not have seen the pitcher&#8217;s spot come up?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More like a Kid n Play flat top!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More like a Kid n Play flat top!</p>
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		<title>By: Another Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think our bullpen&#039;s going to be a weakness for us.

At the moment things are close to as bad as they could be - Wise and Sanchez on the DL, Heilman having a poor start and Sosa&#039;s numbers distorted by one bad inning on a small sample size.

Even still, the bullpen&#039;s ERA is a bad-but-not-awful 4.55

If you subtract Sosa and Heilman, the rest of the &#039;pen has a very respectable 2.70 ERA so far.

Calling the BP an Achilles&#039; heel is close to panicky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think our bullpen&#8217;s going to be a weakness for us.</p>
<p>At the moment things are close to as bad as they could be &#8211; Wise and Sanchez on the DL, Heilman having a poor start and Sosa&#8217;s numbers distorted by one bad inning on a small sample size.</p>
<p>Even still, the bullpen&#8217;s ERA is a bad-but-not-awful 4.55</p>
<p>If you subtract Sosa and Heilman, the rest of the &#8216;pen has a very respectable 2.70 ERA so far.</p>
<p>Calling the BP an Achilles&#8217; heel is close to panicky.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Manny Acosta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Manny Acosta.</p>
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		<title>By: tinathemetsgrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tinathemetsgrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who’s closing for them now?***</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who’s closing for them now?***</p>
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