Matthew Cerrone

postGame: Brewers 5 Mets 3
By Matthew Cerrone - Apr 12, 2008 4:02 pm

The Mets lost to the Brewers by the score of 5 to 3 in Shea Stadium this afternoon.

For a recap and boxscore, go to SNY.

for the second-straight start, Johan Santana did not have his best stuff…yet, he managed to keep the game in reach, until allowing a two-run home run to Gabe Kalper in the seventh inning…he was running out of steam…but, he’s their ace…if you can’t leave him in and hope he muscles through, then who can you leave in…i moan that pitchers do not go long enough, then when they do, but fail, i wish he had been pulled…ugh…the long-ball is the bane of santana, and we knew that coming in to the season…santana was booed a bit while walking off the field…if you boo your ace, what else is left…

…i like Angel Pagan…who doesn’t, at this point…he hit leadoff today, in place of the injured Jose Reyes…he got on in the first, advanced on grounder, tagged on a fly ball and scored…pagan, get ‘em over, get ‘em in…

…i liked the bright-blue pullovers the team wore in the dugouts today…pinstripes, blue hats, blue pull-overs…nice touch…

David Wright struggled today on defense, making a throwing error (from which a run eventually scored), and a fielding error…he’s been a bit off the last few days, despite looking quite good through much of the spring…of course, wright made up for it later with a solo home run…

…hat’s off to Carlos Muniz, who pitched two scoreless innings in relief, while allowing one hit and striking out one batter…

…impressive inning by Eric Gagne, who manages to throw pretty well, despite wearing Prince Fielder’s pants

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Comment by metzelaar
2008-04-12 16:10:52

Again, Wright for 1st baseman next year. The Tigers are doing it with Cabrera for similar reasons (Cabrera doesn’t have much mobility, Wright doesn’t have much of an arm). Maybe Dan Murphy can pan out by opening day 09, and we can spend all our freed up cash on re-signing Perez, and possibly picking up Sabathia.

Comment by metsdude13
2008-04-12 17:12:45

You’re an idiot.

Comment by metsfan227
2008-04-12 17:18:47

I thought the name calling was supposed to stop today?

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Comment by metzelaar
2008-04-12 17:34:08

First off, why? If you can’t back up your argument for why I’m an idiot, and you just leave it at that, I simply can’t take you seriously.

Secondly, I consider anybody who resorts to name-calling as opposed to intelligent, fact-based debate unintelligent. That being said, you sir are unintelligent. However, I’d love for you to prove me wrong, which for whatever reason, I doubt you’re capable of doing.

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Comment by Roach2
2008-04-12 17:37:04

I think that IF we lose out on Tex in the off-season, you need to seriously look at this. His glove is superb…his arm, not so much

 
Comment by metzelaar
2008-04-12 17:53:45

Thank you, Roach, for an intelligent, civilized response.

Texeria is certainly the guy the Mets should look to get this offseason, but at the same time I’m not too comfortable with Wright at 3rd. His defense has not improved since he came up. If anything, his throws have gotten worse. I’ve seen Delgado come off the bag and make that swipe tag about 4 times this season alone due to poor throws by Wright. Not to mention balls in the term that Delgado has luckily been able to scoop. We have a less experienced first baseman over there, and Wright has about 7 or 8 errors this season.

Second might be ideal, since he has GREAT range, a great glove, and the throw is much shorter to first. But we’ve got Castillo there for the next three years.

From what I’ve seen of Murphy, he’s a promising prospect, and he’s on fire right now in the minors. I wouldn’t have any qualms at all with letting him take over at 3rd next year if he’s ready, likewise with F-Mart in left. Then spend the gigantic piles of cash we save from these in-house solutions on putting together the best pitching staff in baseball.

 
Comment by christian warrior
2008-04-12 19:13:11

The Mets won’t get Tiexeira. The Yanks have a need at first base, and there is no way that they are going to allow themselves to be beaten in a bidding war for a player they need by their biggest rivals not located in Massachusetts.

Secondly, what indication have any of us been given that the Mets are going to be remotely interested in signing Tex?

And finally, your plan for Wright is treating him like he is a veteran third baseman who has been in the league for 10 years and is losing his defensive skills. In Wright’s case, he is still a baby and is coming off of a Gold Glove award to boot. It is way too early to start kicking around the idea of a position change at this juncture. He isn’t that bad. And, you heard it here first, he is NOT going to be interested in making that change.

 
Comment by metzelaar
2008-04-12 19:17:25

I think it’s an assumption based on the fact that

A) Delgado is gone after this year

B) We’re going to need a capable bat at 1st, Texeira is one of the only high-profile free agents at first, and we have the money to pay him

As for Wright not wanting to make the change, what exactly are you basing this on? He’s said previously he’d move for A-Rod (which, I understand, is a different situation). But he’s not a diva like Jeter, requiring that he stay at his position no matter what. I think he knows as well as anybody that his ARM (please stop citing the gold glove. i know, i agree) isn’t up to par, and that it costs us sometimes.

 
Comment by 7-train
2008-04-12 20:40:39

I agree about moving Wright to first. I think he could be an excellent firstbaseman. He has a great ability to snag hard hit balls and he has decent range.

He’s a little shorter than you’d like a firstbaseman but he can jump and get high balls.

 
Comment by rM teM
2008-04-12 22:37:14

He’s made a lot of terrific play’s at third though.
He just has some strange problem of throwing
to first when he has a lot of time. I can’t see wasting
a gold glove talent on first. David just has to get better making the throw, that’s his only problem.

 
Comment by CTMetfan78
2008-04-13 08:29:31

He rushes throws sometimes…..that’s all. His glove is one of the best around and he still is relatively new to the league. He can only get better.

DAVID WRIGHT IS OUR THIRD BASEMAN.
Period. It won’t change and I don’t think he ever really considered it, not happily anyway, not even for ARod.

 
 
 
Comment by wolverine194
2008-04-12 17:53:12

You’re not an idiot, you’re right. If Teixiera can’t be signed, Wright should be moved to 1st.

Comment by MetsFanInVegas
2008-04-12 18:06:53

If we couldn’t sign Tex and moved Wright to 1st I don’t think we have a capable fill-in from Triple-A ready to play a full season in the bigs at 3rd. Not many free agent 3rd baseman either. Only one I see is Joe Crede.

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Comment by metsintx
2008-04-12 18:23:05

I guess wright getting the gold glove last year means nothing now. everyone has bad games, you people always want to jump off a building when the mets lose a game. they cant win every game, and not every player has their best game. Relax and enjoy the season. we are only 10 games in.

 
Comment by metzelaar
2008-04-12 18:51:10

It’s not that it doesn’t mean nothing. His glove is great, and his range is awesome. But if you don’t have the arm, what’s the point? Magnificent plays are meaningless if you can’t capitalize on them by actually throwing the guy out. He could play 3rd without a glove all season for all I care, and make barehanded snags between his legs, but if he can’t throw the guy running to first out, it’s all superficial.

That’s why I see 2nd or 1st as legit and beneficial options. Reduced throwing chances, and throwing distances, while allowing his range and glove to still be a factor. This isn’t about this year, his throws have always been pretty hit-or-miss, and that whole double-tap thing he does with his glove is still there and creating a lot of problems.

 
 
Comment by 4JoeOrsulak
2008-04-12 18:23:53

The guy has made 3 errors in 10 games, including a ground ball through the legs, which never happens. Yes Delgado has saved him on some throws, but guess what? That’s what major league 1st basemen are supposed to do.. They do it all the time.

As for Castillo at 2nd for the next four years, if May comes along and Castillo is still incapable of hitting the ball out of the infield as he manages to increase his batting average by a whopping 40 points to pull it above .200, the Metsblog readers would be wise to declare him a sunk cost and start to scream for Dan Murphy and Jose Coronado in Binghamton. They are pulling averages of .450 between them, with Murphy batting close to .500.

I personally don’t care if you put Murphy or Coronado on 3rd and move Wright to 2nd or keep Wright on 3rd (I would keep Wright on 3rd. His error totals of 19 and 21 the last two years, while high, are not off-the-charts, and fans forget–when they let their emotions get the better of them–that he has already made several magnificent plays. I would not waste his skill at 1st.) But the sooner Mets brass understand that Castillo was/is a waste of money, the better for the team.

Shop him around; eat half of his contract if you need to and/or throw him in as a necessary condition of making an otherwise unfavorable trade. Either that or buy him the **** out.

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Comment by metzelaar
2008-04-12 18:53:07

Boy was that contract a mistake. I hope the fact that he’s playing second won’t factor in to any moves/signings for a real second baseman in the future.

 
Comment by wrightstuff08
2008-04-12 23:42:58

i agree that Castillo is a bad contract and i knew that when we signed him. I think we should put Pagan in the 2nd spot and drop Castillo to 7th or 8th. He is a rally killer

 
Comment by DavidTheMetsFan
2008-04-13 19:10:21

I agree. Castillo for four years was a horrible contract. I think we should try Pagan for second base. and his spot in the line up. Castillo can be our back up 2nd basemen.

 
 
 
Comment by wallybackman'sfire
2008-04-12 18:54:02

The Tigers are playing Cabrera at 3B this year. Guillen’s at 1B, having moved over from SS. Cabrera’s been playing 1B and DH-ing this year up until today when he played 1B due to leg soreness…….

Kind of like the idea of Wright at 2B. Intriguing idea. Probably won’t happen but intriguing. Sandberg made the move from 3B to 2B….

Of course Wright’s throwing problems could potentially be remedied. I think I recall hearing Graig Nettles had throwing issues when he first came up and he turned out mighty fine (or was it that he had fielding issues when he first came up?).

Comment by metzelaar
2008-04-12 19:05:23

The thing is, they could have easily just had Inge play 1st once Guillen went down. I think they see a future at 1st for Cabrera, because he is very lackadaisical over at 3rd, and starting to put on some pounds. That’s why he’s starting there now. I’m just saying, it wouldn’t be the craziest thing in the world if Wright moved to first because of his defense.

And in terms of throwing problems, Wright didn’t just come up. He’s been bouncing throws and airmailing throws to the right of first base since I can remember, and he’s started this season with the same exact problems.

Obviously I agree 2nd is intriguing as well, considering we could still get production from that gold glove of his and his great range. As I said, the throws are what hurt him.

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Comment by wallybackman'sfire
2008-04-12 19:23:58

Agreed. Cabrera’s future will be at 1B or DH.

I think it took Nettles several years as a major leaguer to overcome his defensive problems when he came up (pre-Yankees days) so there could be hope for Wright’s throwing issues.

 
Comment by TilMetsDoUsPart
2008-04-13 11:50:23

Bud, moving Wright’s position isn’t worth the trouble. First could actually cause more errors. It would be beneficial just to get a first baseman.

And don’t go crazy about Cabrera at first. They didn’t want Sheffield to get tired, INGE IS THEIR CENTERFIELDER and they probably didn’t want to put some other guy at first when they could use someone with solid defense at third.

 
 
 
Comment by Brian_38
2008-04-12 23:16:10

Wright is our third baseman. He is a gold glove third baseman. Why should he change if he’s really good at that position? He always spends time trying to perfect his fielding. He wants to be an all around player. Wright does have an arm, he just need to work on his accuracy. You can’t compare him to Miguel Cabrera because Cabrera is just lazy. I won’t call you an idiot but it’s not a smart idea. Even if we lose out on Tex, we could look at other options but not this.

 
Comment by TilMetsDoUsPart
2008-04-13 11:42:36

There are so many things wrong with that I cannot even begin.

David Wright is a very good fielder at the third base position. There is literally no reason to move him over. Yes, his arm lacks the accuracy to be an amazing, Omar Vizquel-at-3B, all around great fielder, but what makes you think that he’ll be a better first baseman? There would be so many skills that he’d have to learn that it would take away from his hitting, and probably from his fielding. Also, taking Delgado’s bat out of the lineup would be utterly pointless, as he is doing well and we owe him the sun and the moon in $$.

And this crap about Dan Murphy? The odds that he is good enough to make the bigs is slim to none. He is a utility player at best. I’d much rather sign our worthless setup man Aaron Heilman and get Xavier Nady to produce from first base should Delgado fail.

And on Miguel Cabrera, what the hell are you talking about? they put him in for 8 innings at the position. Probably because their OTHER 3 FIRST BASEMEN, CARLOS GUILLEN, MARCUS THAMES, AND GARY SHEFFIELD needed some rest. And that wasn’t because he had one flaw at third. That was because he was a fat pig who had literally no skill at third, so they gave him 1 GAME at second.

Of course, I agree on re-signing Perez, but later.

SABATHIA WILL NOT BE A FREE AGENT. CC will be traded at the deadline if traded at all. GMs don’t go out all willy nilly signing aces whenever they’re available. Our starting pitching staff is sufficient and we don’t need to spend another $20 million a year for another long term commitment. Don’t freak out because Santana doesn’t pitch a perfect game every time.

Comment by TilMetsDoUsPart
2008-04-13 11:46:34

Sorry - we wont have Delgado next year, but we could certainly sign Nady or someone else like Dunn or Teixeira. There are much better options than moving Wright to a different position and calling up some piece of crap.

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Comment by Constnza81V2.0
2008-04-12 16:17:05

Bottom line, talk all you want about this team’s offense, but when your ace gives up 5 runs when the other team’s ace is on the mound, you’re not going to win many of those games.

Let’s just take the series tomorrow and get Reyes back on the field Tuesday.

Comment by Gina
2008-04-12 17:11:16

I’m pretty sure only 3 of them were earned.

Comment by MudvilleNine
2008-04-12 19:19:50

Four were earned. Two solo homers and a two run homer after a two out walk were all Santana’s.

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Comment by kapnasty
2008-04-12 16:18:24

When will people stop booing our own players? It’s counterproductive and fans shouldn’t be so emotional. I mean last year was rough but booing our own players isn’t going to help any. We need to be supportive in the bad times and the good.

Comment by metsintx
2008-04-12 18:24:45

I agree, mets fans are starting to sound like fools. boo the opposing team. dont boo your ace. he has another 6 years with us, get used to him having a bad game here or there.

Comment by helicopter ben johnson
2008-04-12 20:12:57

the boos were scattered, but audible. its embarrassing for met fans

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Comment by MercuryMetsIn3008
2008-04-12 23:43:24

seriously i agree. i was at the game today and i was shocked to here boo’s. it’s the guys first start and home on the biggest stage in the world, and despite what he says, he’s nervous.. i wonder if the same people will boo him his next start when he blows batters.

it is embarassing.. i mean come on that’s stooping to phillie fan level

 
 
Comment by ac75
2008-04-12 16:18:54

Sign Sabathia? Money aside, why would any Free agent want to sign here. As i write this the r