Comments on: Links: Frustration, Fig, 1B and Rivals http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:48:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: statnut http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138465 statnut Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:17:51 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138465 No, I dont think Wright deeserved the GG, but it wasnt out of line either, given that Rolen was hurt and Zimmerman had an off year. If Wright were going to change positions, he should move to 2B, where his athleticism and range would be better served. There's a reason guys like Delgado, Stairs, Howard, and Giambi play first. No, I dont think Wright deeserved the GG, but it wasnt out of line either, given that Rolen was hurt and Zimmerman had an off year.

If Wright were going to change positions, he should move to 2B, where his athleticism and range would be better served. There’s a reason guys like Delgado, Stairs, Howard, and Giambi play first.

]]> By: toomanyuniforms http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138280 toomanyuniforms Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:18:58 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138280 The Mets have always had a problem shuffling players around the diamond to try to stuff bats in the lineup. It's a bad strategy, and can result in injuries, shoddy defense (it almost always does,) and slumps from hitters who are out of rhythm and concentrating on learning a new position. There is no reason to move Wright, who is a perfectly adequate third baseman -- he's excellent charging bunts and has solid range. Moving Reyes to second (!!!!) should have taught them all they need to know about that strategy. We've dealt with Jefferies all over the place, Keith Miller (!!) and HoJo in center (!!!), Vince Coleman in center, Piazza at first, Hundley in left, Alfonzo getting whiplash from being flung around the diamond (though he actually was able to cope), and the list could go on. Just leave the guy where he is. We're going to shuttle Wright to first to accommodate Dan Murphy? Ridiculous. Stickguy is right about the benefits of a good fielder at 1B, but we don't have to move Wright to get one, and there's no guarantee he would be one. The Mets have always had a problem shuffling players around the diamond to try to stuff bats in the lineup. It’s a bad strategy, and can result in injuries, shoddy defense (it almost always does,) and slumps from hitters who are out of rhythm and concentrating on learning a new position. There is no reason to move Wright, who is a perfectly adequate third baseman — he’s excellent charging bunts and has solid range. Moving Reyes to second (!!!!) should have taught them all they need to know about that strategy. We’ve dealt with Jefferies all over the place, Keith Miller (!!) and HoJo in center (!!!), Vince Coleman in center, Piazza at first, Hundley in left, Alfonzo getting whiplash from being flung around the diamond (though he actually was able to cope), and the list could go on. Just leave the guy where he is. We’re going to shuttle Wright to first to accommodate Dan Murphy? Ridiculous. Stickguy is right about the benefits of a good fielder at 1B, but we don’t have to move Wright to get one, and there’s no guarantee he would be one.

]]> By: gameball http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138267 gameball Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:10:52 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138267 Good point. Many of the 3Bmen we now regard as the best of their generation struggled at the start of their careers. George Brett made a ton of errors early on, as did Mike Schmidt. Gregg Nettles was considered a liability at the position before he became a Gold Glove. Even Brooks Robinson made 21 errors his first full year in Baltimore. It's a position that can take some years to master, and with dedication a player can be still improving in their 30s, while the guys up the middle are losing a step in the field. So why would we consider moving him before we know how good he can be? Good point. Many of the 3Bmen we now regard as the best of their generation struggled at the start of their careers. George Brett made a ton of errors early on, as did Mike Schmidt. Gregg Nettles was considered a liability at the position before he became a Gold Glove. Even Brooks Robinson made 21 errors his first full year in Baltimore.

It’s a position that can take some years to master, and with dedication a player can be still improving in their 30s, while the guys up the middle are losing a step in the field.

So why would we consider moving him before we know how good he can be?

]]> By: kingrw http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138249 kingrw Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:56:59 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138249 that was a very bad post by ed ryan. it looks like something that was posted february 28. "short term solution and the only prospect would be Mike Carp who is struggling in AA." the guy is hitting like .450 with an ops over 1000. i'd like to be struggling like that. francessa thinks he discovered uranium with his theory on wright to 3rd. you want to get on the air with that show??? call in and say you want to talk about david wright moving to first -- you'll get right on. what a blowhard. that was a very bad post by ed ryan. it looks like something that was posted february 28.

“short term solution and the only prospect would be Mike Carp who is struggling in AA.”

the guy is hitting like .450 with an ops over 1000. i’d like to be struggling like that.

francessa thinks he discovered uranium with his theory on wright to 3rd.

you want to get on the air with that show??? call in and say you want to talk about david wright moving to first — you’ll get right on.

what a blowhard.

]]> By: ae41h http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138217 ae41h Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:19:55 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138217 i think the most popular reason for wanting a-rod at first over wright was because a-rod wanted an 8 year contract, and he wasn't going to age as well st third as he would have at first. Oh well, it's a moot point anyway i think the most popular reason for wanting a-rod at first over wright was because a-rod wanted an 8 year contract, and he wasn’t going to age as well st third as he would have at first. Oh well, it’s a moot point anyway

]]> By: ae41h http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138213 ae41h Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:16:13 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138213 i wouldn't quite say the idea is gaining steam. The post is kind of silly if you read it. It says Carp is struggling at AA this year (Have you seen how many runs Binghamington has scored this year? That offense is a machine!), and goes on to quote mike and the mad dog as suggesting its a good idea. Wright is a very good defensive third basemen. You can't look at defense in just one aspect. Sure he makes a lot of wild throwing errors, but he gets to balls most third basemen wouldn't, and his arm is strong enough to make the throws a lot of of other third basemen can't. And one aspect to consider about tex and the yankees, is that tex is represented by boras, and after the whole a-rod fiasco i can't see them doing each other any favors in negotions. (Adam Dunn would also look good first imho) i wouldn’t quite say the idea is gaining steam. The post is kind of silly if you read it. It says Carp is struggling at AA this year (Have you seen how many runs Binghamington has scored this year? That offense is a machine!), and goes on to quote mike and the mad dog as suggesting its a good idea.

Wright is a very good defensive third basemen. You can’t look at defense in just one aspect. Sure he makes a lot of wild throwing errors, but he gets to balls most third basemen wouldn’t, and his arm is strong enough to make the throws a lot of of other third basemen can’t.

And one aspect to consider about tex and the yankees, is that tex is represented by boras, and after the whole a-rod fiasco i can’t see them doing each other any favors in negotions. (Adam Dunn would also look good first imho)

]]> By: guierllNO MOta http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138208 guierllNO MOta Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:13:07 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138208 Nick Johnson anyone? Matt some people will kill you for even posting a suggestion of DW to 1B, for some reason some fans actually believe he deserved a gold glove...remember when people said they would move Arod to 1B over Wright, like ARod isnt a far better 3B defensively.... all that said I like Wright @ 3rd because if you move him, who else can you get to play 3rd, whereas there will be a few 1B's out there this offseason... Nick Johnson anyone?

Matt some people will kill you for even posting a suggestion of DW to 1B, for some reason some fans actually believe he deserved a gold glove…remember when people said they would move Arod to 1B over Wright, like ARod isnt a far better 3B defensively….

all that said I like Wright @ 3rd because if you move him, who else can you get to play 3rd, whereas there will be a few 1B’s out there this offseason…

]]> By: statnut http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138199 statnut Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:08:10 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138199 It's easier to find a quality 1B than a quality 3B. Wright is an above average defensive 3B. Does he have throwing problems? Yes, and those are a majority of his errors. But he makes tremendous plays there, where his athleticism is more useful. It’s easier to find a quality 1B than a quality 3B. Wright is an above average defensive 3B. Does he have throwing problems? Yes, and those are a majority of his errors. But he makes tremendous plays there, where his athleticism is more useful.

]]> By: Another Matt http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138184 Another Matt Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:52:39 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138184 Even in the situation you describe - Carp and Evans don't pan out but Murphy does - I'd still much rather switch Murphy to 1B than Wright. Murphy's actually played a professional game at 1B, which is one more than Wright has. Even in the situation you describe – Carp and Evans don’t pan out but Murphy does – I’d still much rather switch Murphy to 1B than Wright. Murphy’s actually played a professional game at 1B, which is one more than Wright has.

]]> By: stickguy http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138171 stickguy Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:29:40 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/18/links-frustration-fig-1b-and-rivals/#comment-138171 So, DW to 1B is gaining steam? I could see it, if the team really felt they would be better off. And it isn't that uncommon for guys to go back and forth. I guess for it to happen, a few things need to occur. For sure, Delgado gets bought out. No way Omar brings him back, right< Right< Please right? THen, they need a solid option for 3B and no good LT option for 1st. Say Carp and Evans tail off but Murphey crushes the ball all year. And if the Mets want to work the rookie in, that could be a way to do it. ALthough so far Carp is looking good, so maybe a moot piont. I do think he will be a great 1B. The glove and reflexes will be like having Hernandez back, instead of a very limited range Delgado. He could be the "QB" of the infiled, make plays at third, and really use his athleticism over there. IMO, the ebnefits of a great glove at 1B are often overlooked (and that is more than just digging balls out of the dirt!) My assumption would be the in house options take over 1B next year (assuming no Teix in Queens). The other outside choices just look very unappealing. Unless they go after Dunn? So, DW to 1B is gaining steam?

I could see it, if the team really felt they would be better off. And it isn’t that uncommon for guys to go back and forth.

I guess for it to happen, a few things need to occur. For sure, Delgado gets bought out. No way Omar brings him back, right< Right< Please right?

THen, they need a solid option for 3B and no good LT option for 1st. Say Carp and Evans tail off but Murphey crushes the ball all year. And if the Mets want to work the rookie in, that could be a way to do it. ALthough so far Carp is looking good, so maybe a moot piont.

I do think he will be a great 1B. The glove and reflexes will be like having Hernandez back, instead of a very limited range Delgado. He could be the “QB” of the infiled, make plays at third, and really use his athleticism over there.

IMO, the ebnefits of a great glove at 1B are often overlooked (and that is more than just digging balls out of the dirt!)

My assumption would be the in house options take over 1B next year (assuming no Teix in Queens). The other outside choices just look very unappealing. Unless they go after Dunn?

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