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The Game:
The Mets (8-6) begin their seven-game road trip with a three-game series against the Phillies (8-8) this evening at Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia, starting at 7:o5 pm EST.
The Lineup:
- SS Jose Reyes
- LF Ryan Church
- 3B David Wright
- CF Carlos Beltran
- 1B Carlos Delgado
- LF Angel Pagan
- C Brian Schneider
- 2B Luis Castillo
- P Johan Santana
The Pitchers:
LHP Johan Santana (1-2, 3.05 ERA) starts for the Mets. He is coming off a loss versus the Brewers where he allowed five runs, on six hits (3 HR), while walking two and striking out seven. Santana is 1-1 with a 1.19 ERA on the road this season. In his only career start against the Phillies, Santana earned a no-decision allowing one run on two hits while walking six and striking out five over 4.2 IP.
LHP Cole Hamels (2-1, 0.82 ERA) takes the hill for the Phillies. In his last start, Hamels tossed seven shutout innings, allowing one hit, two walks and striking out five in a win versus the Nationals. In four career starts versus the Mets, Hamels is 1-1 with a 2.77 ERA.
..this is a bit of a statement game for santana as he needs to rebound off a poor outing in his last start and put up a bunch of zeros on the board against the rival Phillies…no easy task, especially at citizens bank park, but in my opinion this type of game is one of the reasons why the Mets went out and got johan…
The Notes:
The Mets bullpen is tied for the National League lead with a 3.00 ERA and has not allowed a run in its last 13.2 IP.
Jose Reyes is 44-for-133 (.331) with 7 HR and 11 RBI in his career at Citizens Bank Park.
Pat Burrell is batting .350 (7-for-20) with 3 HR and 8 RBI in his last six games.
Carlos Beltran is batting .333 with 2 HR in 12 career at-bats versus Hamels.
The Mets starters have pitched more than 6.0 IP in their last three starts for the first time since June 24, 2007.
For more insight on the Phillies, check out Blogger Beat.
How To Catch It:
Tonight’s game can be seen locally on CW11 and heard locally on WFAN.
The Bleachers:
For a live chat, head over to The Hot Foot Bleachers.
…i’ve been waiting for the Mets return to philly since last september and what a way to start it off with a santana/hamels matchup…let’s hope this turns out to be an UltiMets Classic…
…yes, that was corny, but i couldn’t resist…
…enjoy, and as always, Let’s Go Mets…
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So professional you are Mike Nichols.
Alright guys, this game is big, get us off to a good start Jose.
Good to see Beltran is playing.
Hopefully, Hamels will be the one with a stiff neck after this game. Let’s play Long Ball !
I like the addition of the pics – no disrepect to you all but the lineup of bloggers lacks some diversity wouldn’t you say? It would be interesting to have the perspective of someone other than a young white man under 35 years of age. Just sayin.
When I came across your post I was thinking to myself that I didn’t like the pictures. I don’t know why, really. It seems to change the Metsblog environment a little too much for me, I guess.
I agree. I tried to get on the team here, but never heard back from Matt. I’m a former sportswriter, 29-years-old and Hispanic. I do live in Chicago, though, but that shouldn’t matter.
It does help that Rollins is NOT in the lineup. I will be at tomorrow’s game. What’s the latest on the tailgate? Where is everyone meeting?
Let’s GO METS!
Look at the parking map at the phillies web site.
I would recommend the back corner of lot W or X, near 20th and Packer. Very easy to find, and super easy access back onto the ramp to the walt whitman bridge (straight on 20th across Packer) for those heading abck to the NYT or rt.295.
Make a Metsblog banner and use it as a gathering point!
According to the Phils site, you can’t tailgate in any of the lots north of Patterson – you have to be south of it, lots A-M. I’m thinking lot M.
Man, perfect game to come home to after a grueling week of work.
Hopefully. I thought that last week for the 1st game of the series. Had to work through the weekend for a Tuesday deadline and then came hope, had a beer… and watched an awful game.
Well, I was already planning on drinking some beers, so if the game turns out to bad I’ll just try and forget by adding in some bourbon.
Im liking our lineup tonight. This is the weekend where our guys can really turn the corner. 2/3 in philly and 2/3 in chicago will silence many critics. Screw that……sweep those philthy phillies and fun those fans in the black hole that they deserve to be in.
Pumped over santana pitching in philly and isiah finally getting the ax.
lol….i meant to put them in the black hole in their dirty city.
I am hoping we aren’t too tired after the long game last night. Hopefully they got into Philly at a reasonable hour.
just imagine how the padres and rockies players are feeling after play 22 innings
*playing
we have an english major in the house
let’s extend the Mets winning streak against the Phils.
if they can win 9 in a row, the Mets can win 10 in a row against Philly.
well, let’s at least start with a win tonight.
Trifecta tonight:
Isiah fired
Mets win
Rangers win
Lol.
too bad he’s still the GM though. Bring back Van Gundy!
no he’s not.
Just a heads up that in the part of connecticut that has CW20 instead of CW11, the game is actually on Fox 61.
Hmmm . . . starters going deep, bullpen pitching well. . . Coincidence? Nope.
i live in ithaca and we dont get cw11 so it seems like we dont get to see any of these games. anybody know the alternative channel they might put it on? this sucks.
do u get twcs?
i live in rochester and i get twcs channel 26 on time warner
check it out
yep we get time warner sports but they have been showing college lacrosse this year instead of the mets when theyre on cw
lacrosse?? come on. that sux
After that long game against the Nats. I am ready for another loss by Santana. It seems that when our ace faces th eace of another team we loss. Thats ok, lets just take the series. If we dont hit then our pitcher cant win. LETS GO METS !!!!!
Way to be positive. So much for Ya Gotta Believe!
OH NO, MLB.tv has the Phillies feed. Instead of the dream team, I have to listen to the Campbells Soup guy.
I feel your pain man.
it’s that damn cw11. direct tv isn’t showing the mets feed either. they don’t even have the game in hi def. god i hate everything about the phillies
I don’t believe there really is that much of a rivalry between the two teams but if I have to watch this on the Phillies Network for 3 games I will personally hit Utley.
I The fact that he just said “electrified” in possibly the most deadpan manner ever gives me hope. This is gonna be a looooong game on mlb.tv.
Me too, and the fact that they are trying to make a rilvalry. I guess they have lost so much they are dying to actually have one for once.
Damn it. I have to listen to Harry Kalas.
NOOOOOOO!!!
Guys…watch it on MLB.TV, but listen to it on WFAN. That was too easy.
I wish it were that easy but i can’t listen to WFAN and it won’t let you do both.
Well…if you have 2 browsers. Or if you watch it on Mosaic, and listen to it in the regular browser window, it might work. not sure on the timing. I do know the lower quality you watch, the less delay there is.
Wow, what a park. I thought Utley might catch that ball, instead it almost made it to the warning track.
holy crap this field is tiny!!!
GO METS!
1-0.
DWright! My man!
these comcast announcers are horrible i want to go to sleep becuase there so monotone and boring
it makes you really appreciate the sny boys…i can’t believe some people prefer these robots
its sad i would pay double to get the sny guys
Bad luck there. Nice to get a run though.
Wright would have been out either way but he was way too far off for 2nd base. If it was a single then worst case is a man at 1 and 3rd. But I would assume he would have been out regardless.
Alright Johan, there is your lead, no excuses.
lol, c’mon 1 run lead with a flyball pitcher in this park. We need to get him some more runs even if it is Johan Santana.
Well, I expect Johan to wrap one around both the left field and right field poles tonight, so, 1-0 lead should be good enough for him.
are you serious? we ned to give him 6 runs!!!! he probably wont need them all but 6 runs
I want to see hamels crying bcause we beat him so badly
excuses…..it’s one stinkin run. give a guy like santana a lil more respect.
suck it tagutchi!!
High pitch count for Santana there to have absolutely nothing happen against him.
i was just thinkin that, hamels had less pitches in the 1st and he gave up a run
philly fans really let delgado have it after his strike out.
Wow, this Tom McCarthy guy sucks too. Add Burkhardt to the dream team.
The philly official scorer gave Hamels an UNearned run on that first inning double by Wright
So who was the error on then?
I guess because of the passed ball, I didn’t see it but it sounded like Church could’ve scored from first on that shot.
How?
So now Hammels is being compared to Steve Carlton, these guys are great.
I know I am looking ahead and dreaming just a little bit but I would love to see Santana smack a homer off of Hamels in this sandbox to leadoff the 3rd.
Those kids are better than the broadcasters.
during an interview today on the wheel house, tom mccarthy said he is a mets fan. how does he actually give an enthusiastic call when the phillies do something good. money talks man.
santana heating up…..kkkk
3 k’s!
i predicting the future
haha, well done.
Pat Burrell made a deal with the devil. Met Killer.
there ya go…..KKKK!!! :)
I was just about to write that.
Johan is looking great.
Johan just has to settle down. Looks like he was overthrowing in the 1st, probably just caught up in the hype of Mets-Phillies/Santana-Hamels in CBP. He’ll get in a groove by the third or fourth.
4 K’s looks settled to me.
He is still not locating his changeup as well as he can. Scarry isn’t it.
the phils have been helping santana a lil. command is a bit off so far
Still gotta watch the pitch count. On pace for 72 through 4. Hopefully he will just get better as the night goes on.
someone said come on ump to that high pitch by hamels
philly fans=uneducated
Has anyone else on MLB.tv noticed that the phuggin’ Philly pholks can’t even get the pitch count correct? At one point they had 3-0 when Santana was up 2-1. And just now for Santana’s at bat they were all kinds of messed up…idiots.
that’s been bugging me all night dude…this is like watching a high school broadcast
after church tagged last nite i though reyes would do it
I am a big Church fan but do you think he will ever let Reyes still a base?
oh no jose
Not good.
Phillies fans are clapping. I hate them.
I’m a Phillies fan and I hate the ‘fans’ who are clapping as well.
I appreciate your decency but what are doing at this blog? Honestly, just curious. Is it to see our viewpoint?
go away scum
and booing too……..classless losers
That looked kinda dirty.
weird block by utley…….no intent though
Can’t watch it today. What happened to Jose?
Reyes stole second head first and as he slide in the second basemen slide in on his knee to block the bag. Looked so purposeful.
Knee to head? Utley did it on purpose? B**tard.
He stayed in though. That is good. He’ll have a nice headache tonight.
Nice job Wright!!
Head first slide into the second basemen’s knee. Probably tweaked his neck or suffered a slight concussion. Jose convinced Willy and the trainer to keep him in.
I dunno if it was dirty but it was ugly!
Not dirty at all. I love Reyes’ energy but if you slide head first you have to take the risk with the reward.
Who the F is booing? And why? That he’s actually alive?
Man, Reyes looks OUT of it. Does he know he is not at Shea. I hope he is alright.
yes yes yes yes yes yes
hope jose is ok!!!
wright is the man
These Phillies announcers SUCK
Ok, I stand corrected. Reyes is A-OK. Did I mention how awesome D. Wright is?
darling said carlos reyes…..lol
WRIGHT ON PACE FOR ANOTHER 5 RBI NIGHT!
Jose got some guts. MVP for the game no matter what happens.
You know, if you cheer someone getting hurt in a sporting event, you really have to reexamie your life. I mean what an f’ing disgrace.
To be fair, it might’ve been that they were booing the call as the replays showed. I’m sure they figured Jose was out. (He wasn’t).
They were also booing when Reyes was getting his pupils checked out. Don’t give these jackass fans more credit than they deserve.
I agree. I have been to plenty of football games, and the fans are always concerned when a player is down. Since when did baseball get so ruthless?
Umm, you guys, hate to be like this, but weren’t the mets fans cheering loudly when Milledge was hit on the arm and obviously in some pretty serious pain yesterday?
Its a d*ck move by both team’s fans, but I hate to say it, but if the same thing happened to Rollins at Shea, our “fans” would have been cheering too.
Yes….but that was…Lasting Milledge. Totally understandable.
The top 5 of our batting order is excellent. Imagine when Alou comes back? I know he is always a step from the DL, but when he is on the field, he is incredible.
this incident made me realize that i dont mind the phillies players i hate the phillies fans and that city
I’m only listening to the radio, so I didn’t see the play at 2nd. Was it actually dirty? If so, I hate to suggest such a thing, but it might be time to throw at Utley’s chin or something.
Between this and leaning into 3 (3!) pitches at the home opener…
I’m not suggesting the Mets try to injure Utley. But there’s some way to send a message to stop playing dirty.
That being said, hitting him with a pitch might just be playing into his plans, given that he took 3 HBPs last week.
Not dirty at all. Just the product of a head first slide and a 2nd baseman trying to block the bag.
It wasn’t dirty. It was just the way Utley came down and the Jose slid into the base.
its wasnt dirty, but it wasnt bleached clean either
his knee tried to cover the plate with his leg knowing reyes would slide head first and it just hit in a weird spot
thats what i got out of it
He was trying to block the bag. That is what he is supposed to do. Dirty would be forcing it into his head or dropping it on his head afterward. He just put the knee there.
any problems with comments not posting anyone?
That wasn’t a smattering of cheers that Reyes was hurt, that was a lot of people. I guess there goes that classy fans of the year award the Phillie fans were so close to getting. So close guys
I don’t think he did it intentionally. He seemed concerned about Reyes, and gave him a pat after he got up.
I stand corrected. It wasn’t pretty but Utley was a good sport about it afterwards.
kkkkk!
Johan is on tonight
Are the SNY cameras off centered? Because this ump has got a crazy wide strike zone. Johan has got nasty stuff tonight but a couple of those pitches seem definitely outside.
KKKKKK
there’s a philly fan in here
kkkkkk!
Man, when he is on…who is better than this guy?
Okay, if it was an accident, I’ll tone down my outrage.
Utley always seems like a decent guy when I hear him talk.
Really, I’m pissed at the umpires for that 3 HBP game.
The rule states that the player must make an effort to get out of the way of a pitch, not simply that he must not move into it.
Would love to see this rule enforced.
same here almost as much the lefty balk actually being called
So much for all those questions about santana’s velocity. Hitting 93, 94 on his fastball. Nasty change for the strikeout right there.
Lets get some more runs.
He historically starts off slow. His best pitching is usually after the all-star break
I am so giddy watching Santana dominate the Phillies hitters. This is worth every penny the Mets paid him.
Let him get the win first
10 pitch inning. :)
I called it!
i really hope we see peavy santana when we play the padres
an instant classic
genius genius genius
(mr deeds)
Nice catch, that could have been 3.
no no no its delgado it might have been 2
if he slid…and if there was a throwing error
Hey MetMets17, you better not be talking about me. Calling me a Phillies fan, that’s fighting words where I come from.
naaa..put the fists away……that was for stjoehawk
i think we scared him away
it would’ve been a reply to your comment if i was speaking to ya meng
Tell Burkhart not to drop the soap around those guys
burkhardt eating with those fem biker guys
When was Castillo’s last hit?
august?
Actually he has 6 in his last 18 AB’s
moises alou DH today!!! went 1-4
huh?
I’m assuming rehab? Didn’t know he was rehabbing yet
the phillies announcers just said it
at least they are good fo something
i miss guiseppe franco…why isn’t he selling his hair stuff in philly?
Nice. Good to know.
ronnie’s diet just went out the window
this color commentary is killing me…it sounds like a drunk hobo is talking about changeups
that was filthy
oh I looooove Delgado
Carlos Buckner
somewhere bill buckners ears are ringing
BULLDOG
who says he can’t throw the slider? that was NASTY
Wow, this is fun to watch
Johan is a machine.
Santana is so filthy.
I hope they throw the pitch count out the window and let him go at least 7
i wish schneider wouldn’t wear the hockey style mask…i think he might be the first mets catcher to do that
Let’s all remember this next time he has an off-day and skip on the boos. If I have to hear or read about Santana being booed in his Shea debut one more f’n time….national media/espn jumped all over that…
people who booed him don’t deserve to enjoy this game, that being said, Burrel has stayed in nicely on some pitches, but luckily Santana is good enough that he won’t let something hang up for him.
yea well it dont matter who is pitching johan or pedro or anyone else 15000 drunk new yorkers will boo if you have a bad outing
your right it really is sad
I just think Mets fans are a little on edge right now after last season
agreed
A one hitter through 4. I hope this shuts up a lot of critics. The guy is an ACE.
Come on guys, take some pitches
people didnt debate if hes an ace they debated if the new york media and fans would crush him
I don’t know if I agree with you completely. I read several “sources” stating that the drop in his velocity was a sign of wear. Obviously, this isn’t true.
How many baseballs do you think Jose saw coming at him?
either 3 or 5
u people ready for a bullpen collapse? becuase im not
that’s just so not needed
i know its not its just a random thought
I’d love to see a complete game, but we know that’s not going to happen
What’s Johan’s pitch count?
about 70
71 through 5
Thanks guys.
Let him go 8.
The guy is built like a tank, he should be able to throw 110-120
MVP…MVP!
Gee, Mets got f’ed again by the umps…shocked
I can think of about 5 plays already this year where there were close plays at a base that have gone against us that all looked like the wrong call…I thought Wright was safe but didn’t get to see a good replay.
the phillies announcers showed one he is out but wow was it close
david wright makes men look like boys
oh my god, so close to being fair, ugh
again!
eh, tough at bat, hard to expect Hamels to give him much else to hit after getting unlucky those 2 times.
that was close
Hamels has been awfully lucky so far this game
Seriously…they should have about 5 against him by now. Lot of hard hit balls.
3 almost doubles for the big guy….man seems like nothing comes easy for him
that figures…
it was a good at bat, you can’t take anything away from Delgado, he was inches from a double, you don’t get many 2nd chances in the same at bat against a good pitcher like Hamels.
beltran needs to steel more bases ahead of delgado. delgado is a below average slow singles hitter at this point in his career
Jeez, how did he even hit that pitch? Nice play, Angel.
wow, nice play by Pagan, Werth got lucky though just to hit that though, 95 mph on the previous pitch as well.
i’m flapping my arms in my living room!!!!
Alou couldn’t have made that play.
I disagree, he would have made it but would have left some part of his body on the field when he got up.
How long will they let him go? I would let him stretch it a little tonight. At least until he gets in trouble.
figgy, maine and big pelf all went long in the last 3. santana will tell willie when he’s coming out tonight. he’s not gonna let himself get shown up by the kids
None went over 100 pitches.
damn….that could’ve been a double
Santana was running! Please don’t hurt yourself!
the drunk hobo has a terrible home run call….i hate philly
haha, that’s funny for several reasons.
We will be alright.
man, he’s dangerous…best player in baseball.
Santana?
Haha…no, but seriously, I’m really starting to believe that Utley is one of if not the best hitters in the game.
who?
Howard is pretty overrated. 0-3 without hitting the ball hard once. Whomever gives him his huge contract is gonna be very sorry.
he’s got mo vaugn written all over him… don’t forget he’s almost 30
He’s MUCH better than Mo Vaughn. Let’s get real here.
Mo Vaughn was pretty damn good when he was Howards’ age.
he did win an mvp and was a knee injury away from winning 2
Wow that was good pitching to Burrell.
Made Burell look stupid! Damn I am so giddy watching this.
these fans are complete idiots…
ACE.
No Heilman against the Phillies tonight Willie. Leave Heilman on the bench unless really needed. Please Willie, I love you man, but don’t do it. . . .
that would be poison to the mets
he’s in the freakin bullpen………..aaaaaa!
What did I say Willie? What did I say? Just for once listen to us.
Will he pitch the 8th?
Maybe. 93 pitches for Santana. You’d like to keep him in, but Peterson doesn’t like to extend pitchers past 100 this early in the season.
No Heilman. . .The Phillies own him.
THAT’S why you start Castillo
Ruben Gotay, could you have made that play?
starting and staying in the 8th hole is fine w/ me
Once he is healthy he makes our lineup so much deeper in the 2 spot. Right now i am fine with him at 8th. Just think when Alou is back, Church will be a #7 hitter. If Delgado is struggling i would even move him to 7th and let Church hit 5th.
castillo get points….nice play
Castillo may not be hitting, but I like the way he plays 2nd base…I hope Santana pitches the 8th.
Let Santana pitch the rest of the game Willie, PLEASE!
nice play…i sometimes forget how good luis is in the field…he’s a beltran type of fielder…just kinda gets things done out there
I swear I will hear this announcer again, when i am watching Eeore on Winnie the Pooh in the morning.
Nice play by Castillo, anyone seen my tail?
So what if Santana pitches close to 120 pitches? It’s not going to kill him. For an April game, that would be a huge statement.
no no no no no no no no no no hielman!!!!!!!!
I agree, let Santana stay out until he in trouble. If he gives up another HR at least he had control of it. I don’t think he could take another blow by the pen this early after pitching this well.
should have been another ribby
ooooooh crap, this is the situation where the Mets start to suck
Finally, these hard hit balls are falling in…they have really been hitting him well.
Good move Phillies, seriously
let’s wreck em right here!!!
Anything but a DP Delgado. Why not a nice FO to RF?
not going to kill him if he throws 120 pitches?? Yeah but his arm might fall off in October. No way you made too much of an investment and you need him too much to take that kind of risk. Never happen
Every once in awhile it’s alright for pitchers to extend themselves. They’re not girls for god sakes
dwright ate a huge bowl of wheaties this morning
I’LL TAKE IT!
I’ll take that, Carlos, just didn’t want a K.
Good enough Delgado.
i’ll take it. remember when first basemen used to know how to field (will clark, keith hernandez, eddie murray) seems like it’s a lost art
It’s almost like the NL DH position at this point
i blame mcgwire
howard is such a lousy 1b
YES!
that was awesome!!! why did beltran stop at 3rd?
Had to make sure it wasn’t going to be caught.
thanks…just realized that…god i’m stupid
Keeps pressure on the pitcher :)
See ;)
come on, let’s get one more schneider, just make contact
Which jersey do I wear to the ball park tomorrow? Santana or Wright? Both are having such a great game.
wright…if you wear santana’s then they’ll accuse you of being a new fair weather fan
Good Point. I’m sure I’ll get enough abuse as it is.
I would wear Schnieder’s he does not get enough love so far this season. Prob. does not even have one, though. I say we start a campaign for one here today.
Church would be another good one to get.
Listening on mlb.tv, the phillies announcers are awful. When pagan hit that double it sounded like he was going to cry.
You heard an emotion?
that was funny
How about our Lefties vs. Lefty pitchers? Unreal
ahahaha great to see that ballpark slowly fall into depression
Looked away to post on here and heard the crowd cheering, i figured an out. must not be anything left but Mets fans :)
Hamels pitched well tonight but look at that line now. And the Phillies fans said that Cole and Johan canceled each other out. That’s great.
Did Church tank it in Washington of something? I thought he couldn’t hit lefties?
He had a terrible year last year against lefties. He had a very good year against lefties the season before that. So far, it looks like last year was a bit of an anomaly. Plus, once the Nats thought he couldn’t hit lefties, he probably got fewer at bats against them, denying him the chance to turn around his numbers.
And they pitched around him, considering how bad their lineup was most of last year.
Willie better cool it with his quick hook
100 pitches…in the 8th…astounding
oh no, don’t crap out now Santana
i wish these idiots in philly would do some research before a game…their explanation of dirty not being up was retarded…they’re starting to sound as bad as mike and the mad dog
WILLIE!!!!!!!! YOU SUCK
Why? Half the board wanted to extend Santana and he did and it didn’t work.
But he does suck for bringing in Heilman.
he only gave up one legitimate hit that inning
Took him out a batter too late.
good thing we’re not the manager. too bad willie is. should have pulled him after 7
This is actually what I wanted him to do. It was Johan’s game until he got in trouble. He did and now the bullpen has to hold it.
7 ip 3 h 10 k 0 bb 1 hr
i think i’m gonna cry
and he’s not sweating…it’s official…i have a man crush
absolutely ridiculous that willie let santana bat in the 8th and put him back out there. it’s only april and he was at what 96 pitches already. i’d rather try to get a pinch hit, make it 7-1 and use a schoeneweis/heilman combo.
I am sure Santana wanted to go back out and if either of those AB’s produced an out then he would still be in to finish the inning.
absolutely ridiculous to start that inning w/ Santana. It’s April 18th and you have a four-run lead. Willie learned nothing from the Milwaukee game when Santana should’ve been taken out after six and around the same number of pitches Santana had tonight after 7
big spot
the phillies
heilman
????
what comes next?
i hate u heilman
i effin knew it u pr#%k
No lead makes me feel comfortable in this crappy ballpark
Another poor decision by Willie. Easley should’ve hit for Santana and Heilman pitching to these righties. This game will be tied very shortly.
Funny. Read above and lot of people wanted Willie to extend Santana. I agree and don’t agree considering the amount of work the bullpen put in yesterday.
Now Heilman against the Phillies is not a good thing.
god i’m nervous
Please don’t suck this outting Heilman. Wait for the Cubs or something
monday morning quarterback comments about willie
WHAT???? I said Santana should’ve stayed before he took him out!
i didnt hit reply on ur comment. chillax my friend
Yeah, taking out Santana was a GREAT move
Heilman=buzzkill…he is soooooooooooooooo predictable.
Ok you have to trade Heilman, I am offically done with him.
who didn’t see that coming? how many huge homeruns has heilman given up in philly?:
i smelt that coming
im feeling a lot of hate
i will reserve my anger towards heilman
u suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If they lose this game for Johan, I may run into the middle of the street with a blindfold.
DUANER SANCHEZ NEEDS TO BE OUR 8TH INNING GUY 15 MINUTES AGO.
I just threw up….seriously…not even just saying that. I’m sick!!!!
another randolph masterpiece, santana’s line shot, W in doubt, Heilman given the chance to further shatter his confidence…
How is that on Willie? Santana had over 100 pitches and had given up two hits in a row. Heilman is the one to blame here. No body else.
Dude, he gave up a bloop and a two strike liner. Stop drinking the Mets kool-aid. You know it’s okay to criticize the team, no one will doubt your fanhood.
Have you been reading lately? I don’t even like Kool-Aid. There is a middle and its ok for most normal people to be there. I see the positives and negatives. I post on here when we are up and down and make suggestions either way. You can shove your constant negative comments where the sun obviously does not shine.
in other words, you’re a metsblog troll that’s on here morning, noon and night. and your opinion somehow means more b/c you’re a “regular.”
gotta agree with you on this one. santana was done. heilman does not have the fortitude to be an effective setup man. he might be as hated as schowenweiss at this point, but the makeup of the 2 guys is completely different. it’s like scho thrives off of the fan hatred and heilman is crumbling. i can’t stand that guy
It’s on Willia for letting him bat in the 8th with a runner on 3rd and then sending him out 2 pitch when he was obviously gassed. And it’s especially on Willie for sending Heilman out into the lion’s den. Is his memory so bad?
Obviously gassed? How could you tell that a pitcher who had given up 2 hits and had under 100 pitches was gassed? You have to be right because you are a genius.
When Matt Wise comes back please get rid of this clown. PLEASE!
Willie should send Santana out to get Heilman, that would send a message. Willie made the right call but Heilman could not perform.
You love defending Willie’s strategy so does that mean you will leave this board when he gets fired? His firing isn’t a matter of if, it’s when. Willie makes at least 1 head scratcher strategy move every single game.
What are you talking about? And besides that, how did you just magically show up when we got in trouble?
As for head scratcher moves, every manager does if you play armchair QB.
And for the record, normal posters on here would know that I am indifferent to Willie. I think he is average and does not make a difference one way or the other. I would just as soon he be gone just so people like you would just shut up.
haha sorry mr. metsblog. next time i’ll make sure i race to the computer so I make my point right the exact second Santana is in the batter’s box to somehow give my point more validity so a metsblog troll doesn’t think i’m an armchair qb when in fact I call the strategy as the game occurs, not after the fact.
and perhaps if you watched other teams play you’d realize they actually make less head scratcher moves. but I’m sure I’m 1 of the few diehards on here that was up til 4:30 a.m. watching the padres and rockies and still went to work.
perhaps in the future you’ll allow other mets fan to vent on here. that’s why we come on here- to vent. if you don’t like that, go away, otherwise let us rant about whatever strategies we don’t like. i can already tell you have to have the last word on everything.
Yup.
remember we still got the lead for now its ok dont give up
it’s ok…we still have a 1 run lead….just get heilman out of there
I am usually a cheerleader for Heilman…but I have officially changed my position. I am now joining the rest of the metsblog crowd that bashes him on a regular basis.
if the Mets blow this one…. wow…..
Warning track?? Are you serious? Pull him please.
I am pissed because now Santana is charged with the runs. haha…I’m so selfish. This is a huuuuuge at bat right now for Feliciano….biggest so far this season…lets go Peeeedddroooo!
I don’t even know what to say with this guy. He always had trouble with the home run ball but not so many in a row like this. He gave up 8 lastg year now we are at 3. He’s killing us
man, they’re blowing it for santana again!
please tell me somebody is throwing in the bullpen
bye heilman thanks for playing
his where the offense must step it up again because i am so worried about heilman
Heilman should never be allowed to pitch in CBP again. All he does is throw hangers. Sometimes he gets away with it, many times he doesn’t.
I am not sure I would let him pitch in a close game right now. Send him to the minors to work on being a starter again or something.
and then trade him while he still has some value.
Please don’t let Heilman pitch to Utley. At least this is a move we all can agree on.
Santana is waiting in the dugout with a bar of soap in a sock.
he should upgrade to unopen soda cans
or a bunch of broken glass around a bowling ball
Feleciano or dare I saw Show. . .
Feleciano please.
wise gets back……ship heilman out for a sack of plantains
Ugh…Its still early but man maybe they should yank Heilman form the setup spot until he figures things out. He is the opposite of clutch at this point. Put in Duaner or a Smith/Feliciano combo for the 8th.
my goodness it’s utley
at least its not burrell
at least u guys get to listen to cohen ad whoever else during this, i got to listen to the idiotic phillies broadcasters and its killing me
I would walk Utley…he’s too good.
I hope Johan gives Heilman a beating….he should not be allowed to pitch to Philly. They own him.
that homerun cost me mad points on my fantasy team
heilman……..grrrr
Heimlich needs to be traded once Sanchez is fully settled and Wise is back. Billy Beane supposedly loves him.
Heilman is horrible. There are going to be a lot more games like this and he can’t be trusted to get a big out. I mean if he gives up a single we’re fine, a double we’re ok, but a F’n HR??? I am sick of this garbage with him.
oh jeez, I truly hate Heilman. This is a perfect example of why the Yankees should pray to god that they have Joba for the 8th inning
I blame Santana AND Randolph for this one. I am sure santana convinced Randolph to go out for another inning… but at the same time… Randolph should’ve just put heilman out there to begin with. retarded.
santana is a gamer…….u cant blame him
gotta give the ace the ball
pitch count was still ok
willie should have pinch hit for him…but looking at it from santana’s point of view, the mets haven’t had a complete game in 3 years and he was cruising under 100 pitches
Would not have mattered Heilman would have still given up a 3 run homer. The point is moot.
Thank you Pedro, whew.
Pedro Cajones! …Hello Billy Wagner.
cajones grandes!
thank goodness for u pedro
muchas gracias :)
feliciano has balls
Hmmm. . . Feleciano has balls and we have a Dirty Sanchez, do I sense a theme with these NY Mets?
classic comment
Why isn’t HE our set up man?
Because he criticized Willie a couple seasons ago. Has been in his doghouse ever since
Mets better get at least a run here. Sending out Wagner to get a save with a one run lead in this environment…. I mean this game already has a strong negative vibe to it after Aaron “the abortion” Heilman came in.
Wagner against Howard, Burrell and Feliz makes me nervous.
I’m going to get laughed off the internet for this, but Heilman’s been a very unsung hero for the Mets for the past two years.
He’s pitched a ton of important innings decently. Not great, but decent. If he hadn’t been there, someone else would have to pitch those 80 or so innings each year. That’s an awful lot of innings to make up.
Now, we know he wants to be a starter, and isn’t all that happy in the bullpen. Even worse, he gets booed a ton at Shea. He’s been terrible this year, no question. But I think you could make a good argument that he was the Mets’ MVP over the last two years. Easily the most important part of the bullpen.
Just sort of a shame to see him in such a tough position. Wanting to be a starter and getting booed at home after performing very well for us.
All that being said, he’s sucked this year. The sooner Duaner takes over the 8th, the better.
He’s the eigth inning Benitez, don’t let his numbers fool you
Nah. Heilman had an awful lot of good performances over the past two years. I think a certain game 7 (understandably) colors everyone’s opinions.
Throwing 80 innings, mostly in big spots, pretty well is a very, very underrated skill. Just about every good team out there has someone who can do this. Just about every bad team has someone who can’t.
The guy KILLED the Mets last season with back breaking homers. It’s not just one instance. I can look past one instance
so what u are saying is heilman takes u to the dinner but then doesnt serve the food
He wears the short skirt but doesn’t put out
i hate that…….heilman man-ho
or better yet…..he takes u to dinner and then he says i gotta pee and runs out without paying and leaving you to wash the dishes
Nope we have had many more important memebers of the pen. As bad as Wagner has pitched, or so it seems, check out his numbers. Check out Feliciano’s numbers.
I would love to trade Heilman.
Wagner’s been exactly what we wanted, and Feliciano’s been FANTASTIC.
However, what I want to bring up are the innings pitched.
2006:
Feliciano: 60.1
Wagner: 72.1
Heilman: 87.0
2007:
Feliciano: 64.0
Wagner: 68.1
Heilman: 86.0
He has to be up among the league leaders in innings pitched by a reliever each of the past two years. I think the importance of this is often overlooked.
I am not saying he does not have value, hopefully its value to another team or he becomes the 7th inning guy again and Sanchez and Feliciano get the 8th.
Who would you have rather seen there? Heilman or Smith?
I do think the Mets read too much into “He throws a changeup, and can get lefties as well as righties!” with Heilman.
Maybe the batting average against is evenly split, but it seems lefties take him deep more often.
With Duaner, Smith, Feliciano, and Schoeneweis (ugh) pitching alright (again, ugh, but Scho gets lefties) and Sosa as well being functional, there’s more flexibility with Heilman, and maybe he could face a few less lefties in big spots.
I would have much rather have had Show in there against Utley. I just don’t understand why it was not Feliciano against Utley anyway.
Wasn’t it Feliciano against Utley? Heilman came in, faced Dobbs, gave up a homer, got two outs, Utley came up, in came Feliciano.
Yeah, your right. I got lost in the debate there. Still I would not have Heilman in the 8th inning right now. That being said Smith and Sanchez have seen a lot of action lately.
I won’t be too broken up if the Mets move Heilman out of the setup role for the time being. I just think he’s been much, much better than most fans realize over the past couple of years.
At least Wright has another chance at the cycle.
If the Mets don’t get a run in this inning, they’re not winning this game
anyone notice how not only the broadcasters are what they are (with kalas’ laxative voice), but their directing and camera angles suck 2! the centerfield camera is offline and u cant ever tell if the pitches are over or not, and they dont seem to have the one above the plate to verify. and the replays have been awful 2!
Get used to it. I have to see the Mets via the Extra Innings package, and the road broadcast teams and production values are so second (or third) rate compared to SNY. Florida, DC, and the D’Backs are among the worst. But very few can hold a candle to the SNY team….though, amazingly, Vin Scully still does a great job with the Dodgers, despite his age.
I was thriled that tonights Extra Innings feed was the NY broadcast.
I would love to get into Brad Lidge’s head right now. Early in the season.
DELGADO! Come on big boy!
Thank god for Howard. At least we got him on our side
and brad “aaron heilman” lidge
a lil insurance pleeeezzze
Ok Delgado, don’t be an A-hole and get a run in
THAT ERROR WAS A BIG PLAY WHY ARE THESE ANNOUNCERS TALKING LIKE THEY’RE FALLING ASLEEP.
u must mean the phillies guys
i lived in PA for a few years……an awful broadcast team
your 2006 mvp ladies and gentlemen
Thank you Delgado
fly ball fly ball fly ball!
philly radio peeps just said Delgado is 1 for 1 vs. Lidge in his career with a homerun
I tried cancelling it as Delgado swung on the first pitch but it was too late. At least he is still 1-1 w/ a HR and a sac fly
gotta love howard’s glove
yep – getting sick of beltran swinging at the first pitch and turning over on the ball every single at bat from the left side…
Is it me, or is Church ALWAYS scoring.
a triple would be nice
i’m sorry i called you a jinx gary cohen…
i’m sorry i called you a drunk keith hernandez…
i’m sorry i called you fat ron darling…
i’m sorry i questioned your sexuality gary burkhardt…
PLEASE TAKE ME BACK!!!! I DON’T WANT TO LISTEN TO THESE PHILLY PRICKS ANYMORE!!!!
that comment might be the greatest comment in the history of metsblog
i’d like to thank the academy…
I just have no faith in Wagner to get this save. I don’t know why. Just zero…
b/c we’re mets fans
defeatist attitudes suck, get an attitude adjustment.
would you rather have heilman as closer? how bout schoe? or sosa? or anyone else (except for maybe sanchez) you have to have confidence
I can’t force myself to have confidence in someone
Billy Wagner did say Heilman was our next closer.
He is using fear tactics to get us to extend his contract.
Someone said this to me when I made a similar comment and it made sense to me.
It’s the situation that makes you nervous/dont feel confident. No matter who pitches in the bottom of the 9th in a close game is going to make you nervous.
Yes, thank you! I’m so glad that somebody else reaslizes this!
Ha, you guys, for the millionth time, its not the closer that makes you nervous, its the situation, people.
Ok, 3 outs away. It isn’t so much the loss for the team, i just couldnt stand Johan getting another loss, after pitching a gem.
1 out……get em billy
F U heilman!!!! Santanas ERA went up so i hope he at least gets the win
ok, just 2 more billy..
$10 million arbitration right there philly…money well spent
1 big out.
the drunk hobo just called that pitch a heater…god i hate him
whew, HUGE out
uhoh…mad dog’s favorite player is up
1 more
that’s right philthy fans go home
good luck in your next life as a pinch hitter, Moises Alou
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Atta Boy Billy
great job johan
great job david
great job church
great job billy
aaron wake up the season has started
whew…i need a beer…or 20…
Great win, although that Heilman homer did put a little bit of a bad taste in my mouth. He’s still an issue
He won’t be when we move Sosa out of the pen, Wise/Muniz back on the team and Heilman to mop up role. I could handle him is Sosa’s spot, just no more 8th inning please.
time to pregame
THAT’S the best comment I’ve read tonight!
nice chattin fellas…god it’s only april…i can’t take a whole season
i love the mets!
I just want to thank all of you metsbloggers for you support through this tough two innings. I really got sick after the home run. Couldn’t have got through it alive without you. Here’s to all of you!
this isnt just a fan site for blogging, its a complete support system!!!
cheers
Last comment about Heilman tonight but it just does not seem right that Heilman trashes Santana’s ERA but pads his by getting a hold. What a worthless stat that is.
He gave up a run on that homer. His era goes up.
Nobody really cares about holds anyway, except fantasy players.
I still think the runs you give up when you come in should count too.
Maybe modify the rules a bit. Runners in scoring position go to the guy who came out. Runner on first belongs to the pitcher coming in?
way to go johan! i dont wanna hear anyone else boo this guy at home, hes a STUD!!!!. and D wright is the rock of the team as usual. now lets beat them with rollins in the lineup!
Heilman’s home run made me sick, Santana made me giddy, Billy looked good, and Dwright’s the man.
New rule: Heilman doesn’t pitch in important games, games against the Phillies, or to left-handed batters. All who agree, say “I”.
I
AARON HEILMAN MUST DIE
or at the very least, leave via free agent.
duaner, please get your velocity and confidence up quickly, we need you in the eighth!
Heilman is a good reliever. He is not an 8th inning guy. That has been pretty evident since the 8th inning of the 2006 nlcs. He can’t handle the pressure. He’s a good 6th 7th inning guy. Sanchez is going to quickly reclaim his spot in the 8th inning. Sanchez is throwing well, his breaking stuff is still nasty and he’s in the low 90’s with his fastball. Eventually he’ll probably get his velocity back up, but remember he hasn’t pitched in 2 years. Not gonna happen overnight. However he has an 8th inning mentality, heilman does not.
Good game tonight, santana was great. Also were 4-0 since willie moved church into the 2 hole. While we haven’t scored an inordinate amount of runs, the top of the lineup has been more prouctive and Church has performed very well.
what happens if duaner doesnt get back to his old self? heilman will still be the setup guy, and i still believe you guys are rushing to judgement on heilman, he was one of the mets better relievers over the past 2 years..and yet hes off a tough spot and people want his head.
I just got home from the game….some notes from CBP:
- the park was juiced right from the start, and Wright’s 2B off the wall quickly silenced the crowd. There were plenty of Met fans there, but not the usual 15-20k I usually see. I expect that Saturday’s game will be a Met deluge since its a weekend game.
- I was in the upper deck in LF when Reyes went down after the SB, and there were plenty of cheers! Yay, way to go guys. Reminded me of when Dallas’ Michael Irvin almost broke his neck at the Vet and Eagle fans cheered. And when Reyes got up and tried to stretch it out, fans repeatedly booed him like he was milking it or something. And you think Shea fans are bad?!
- I liked Willie leaving in Santana into the 8th, but Heilman coming in with 2 runners on was odd. I suspect that if the tying run was at the plate, Heilman would not have been the guy. I think he’s trying to instill some confidence in him. BTW, Heilman was cheered loudly by the Phillie fans when he walked off the mound.
- ANyone who thinks Delgado is a butcher at first should watch Ryan Howard try and field the position…what a disgrace. And they said he worked on his defense a lot this Spring.
- I was surprised Wags went after Burrell like he did, he was hitting 97 on the gun a few times. He got plenty of boos coming out of the pen, and he just looks awesome pitching from the full windup. A nice quiet 9th is always nice to see.
Here’s to two more wins over the weekend!
philly fans have been the worst fans in sports for over 30 years. easily the most classless fans around
Definitely classless, but Mets fans did the same thing when Milledge went down.
Didn’t anyone notice that the Mets are once again in 1st place?
And, just to prove that BB is a funny game (and players take time to develop), Pelfrey is 2-0 with an ERA below 2, and Phil Hughes on the Stankees is 0-3 with a snappy 8.82 ERA.
Yes it is early, but still nice to see!
But Hughes is the next Randy Johnson! And Pelfrey is a nobody! How is this happening?