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…because so many of you keep asking, while making up your own conspiracy theories: i removed the Willie Randolph Job Approval Rating because it was not shaping up as a direct reflection of the overall fan base’s opinion…
…instead, it was a direct reflection of the standings, which is probably because of the way i phrased the question…
…i am considering a more effective way of doing a similar poll…
…by the way, SNY has ZERO editorial control of this site, as i repeatedly point out…it’s all mine…
…as i have said before, i never would have agreed to partner with SNY had this not been the case…also, they have ZERO say over how the site looks, functions or what goes on in the comments section…those decisions are all on me…
…that said, people at the network seem to love these polls, whether positive or not…i, however, prefer the polling to be as close to relevant and accurate as possible…and when they are not, as with any other aspect of this site, i stop and adjust…on my own accord, because i feel i owe that to my readers…
There was a recent poll that was on here and then later during the game broadcast, they asked the question again, and if I remember right, the poll results were opposite.
I think it had to do with booing the team. Results on here showed that a much lower percentage of people who boo, in contrast with the results on tv where at least over half said yes.
Thank you for clearing this up Matt. I was tired of watching people moan about it on every comment thread.
You should enable comments on the polls. It would be an interesting discussion.
I do not have a problem with it .. But at the same time how was the good approval rating of Willie during spring training a fair assesment and allowed to stand ? that would see to be not accurate either. Aslong as it works both ways..
I did two polls. Then pulled it. That’s far from being hypocritical, which is what I think you are suggesting.
I mean, had the response been positive for two months, I could see your point.
But I had a feeling things were off at the first poll (around opening day, when he registered positive), and then I confirmed my suspicion in the second poll. End of story.
And why am I even talking about this?
Seriously, what are you driving at? I’d rather you just come out and accuse me of something, than beat around the bush.
Well put Matt. Also, I don’t recall there being a poll during Spring Training…
In the future, for your own piece of mind, just concern yourself with legitimate questions/concerns and ignore the lunacy.
Matt: i am not accusing at all.. I understand your point, hopefully you can figure out a better way going forward. I am just hoping that the rating doesn’t show up again at a time when Willie might get a better response it all. But that is not a big concern since you always do a great job. I only mention it because i know how the Mets push for these things to be removed. I will take your word that is not the case though.
It wasn’t, which is Matt’s point – at least that’s how I read it.
I think a poll of willie’s performance is good since we all agree that the team needed to get out to a strong start after last year. Maybe however if Matt worded it towards specific situations and have choices for the poll you may get a more accurate feel for what the fan base is thinking, like with some of the other polls Matt posts.
My objection to the Willie poll is that it encourages a certain type of “fan” to reduce the staggering complexity of the game of baseball to their own irrational hatred for one single individual. If anything goes wrong in a game, it’s automatically Willie’s fault. This type of knee-jerk response is nothing more than drive-time radio bone-headedness transferred to the internets.
And ironically, reflexive Willie-hatred makes it nearly impossible to discuss with any degree of objectivity or clarity his actual shortcomings as a manager. (I remember fondly when that was still possible. Auld Lang Syne).
But it’s your site, Matt. You know what the response is going to be.
I don’t know, Matt. Seems a bit odd.
Aren’t all the polls you post here reflective of the standings? If this team were playing 2006 caliber baseball…does a “Do You Boo at Shea?” poll seem relevant? When the team is winning, the ‘Team Direction’ meter goes up. When they don’t win, it goes down. When Castillo can’t hit a ball out of the infield, 80% of the fans want Church batting second. When he hits, steals, and moves runners…that percentage levels off.
Hey, it’s your site. Do what you want. But that reason your stating seems highly subjective. Which, honestly, is what a poll is…subjective. How do you honestly know that the poll didn’t directly reflect the overall fan base’s opinion? Can you detect IP addresses coming in from South Philly or the Bronx?
I, for one, am VERY interested in knowing what Randolph’s job approval rating is. And the fact that it has likely dipped below 50% (which, honestly, seems about right) does not look good on the top left hand corner of your web banner. So I understand why you took it off.
Fact is, no poll is perfect. If so, wouldn’t John Kerrey be president right now?
It seems to me that a lot of fans are way more agitated about Willie than he deserves. The bottom line is, if they don’t win this year, he is gone. This is not the Knicks we’re talking about here where we’re gonna be stuck with a total failure for years and years (Castillo is another story), but he ain’t goin now. The fans that blame The Collapse on Willie need to move on, it’s time for some closure and the guy should get a second chance if you actually believe he was to blame – it wasn’t his fault Heilman gave up a HR to Yadier.
but some may argue that it was his fault that Yadier was even put in a situation to succeed. Meaning….that series should had NEVER gone to 7 games.
I actually blame the injuries for the failed 2006 campaign. But fact is fact…..as Bobby V totally outmanaged LaRussa in 2000, LaRussa outmanaged Willie in 2006. And he outmanaged him in that make-up game last September.
I still don’t think the reason for the collapase can be ascertained. So Willie, as the leader, is the first head to roll. That’s how it is. I am willing to give him another chance. I just have yet to see in 2008 what he has learned from 2007. And that is a problem.
See MealTicket’s post above. Obviously while all polls are reflecting the standings, a simple yes or no is not an accurate measure. As Matt said, “…i am considering a more effective way of doing a similar poll…”
I got it.
It will be interesting to see what Matt comes up with.
I agree. I am NOT saying that metsblog is “in bed” with SNY. I am saying that what looks good for SNY looks good for metsblog. I have been a reader and posted since 2006 and I have seen this site change over the years, some for the good and some not. We are, afterall, fans. We all have our own thought and feelings about Willie and the Mets. Just because a poll does not reflect how you think it should, does not mean, it is not accurate. I for one like to see how other fans feel and think. It helps me to see if Im being irrational or not. Yankee fans where not happy with I would like to see more polls and have the results posted on the side bar. LETS GO METS >>
I would love to see polls that question Willie’s decisions, and its not necessarily always taking shots at Willie, is just to see how others would manage the situtation. Polls like:
Would you drop Church back down in the lineup?
Would you have taken XYZ out of the game in the 6th inning, etc.
The polls are great and put good perspective on how the fans, who believe they are managers, think. There should be a page on the site with polls all over the place. Lets get poll crazy.
I think when Matt saw that they poll went from 80% support to 40% in one series it became irrelevant. Maybe if you do it once a month instead of after each series with more than just a yes I approve or no I don’t.
That’s a very good point….
i agree. I like the poll and i think having it at the end of the month would make it more effective considering the sample size a fan has to take under consideration. If we get swept, regardless if its willies fault or not im sure his rating will suffer. This is my first year on this site and i love it. Keep it up matt.
The polls are great, Matt…like the work you do with them.
But let’s be honest, the Randolph poll was removed b/c his approval rating was dropping faster than the f-bombs we were all dropping everytime Mota came into a game last season.
lolllllll
matt, i think it might be more accurate to ask for a 1-10 rating on willie (like the confidence poll) rather than the simple yes/no choice
(this way i will be able to vote as high as like a 5 out of 10 if the mets are streaking hot)
good point.
Matt
Run two polls, twice a week for three months. Overall & Willie. If they mimic each other, then you’re right.
AC
Run a 1-10 rating poll on the direction of the team (actually acts as an Omar approval rating), and a 1-10 approval rating poll on Willie.
So if the Willie line is above the Omar line….we feel Omar is the bigger issue.
If the Willie line is plotted below the Omar line….we feel Willie is the bigger issue. I venture to say that Willie is sitting well below Omar right now.
Now, It would be great if a poll can be devised that isolates our opinion of the players…and only the players. Call it the talent poll, the ‘Heart” poll, whatever. Then plot that against the linies above. Problem is, any polling about the players will always come back full cirlce to to Willie or Omar. So that one would be tough to build.
But having those 3 data points would be very interesting.
We, the fans, have also taken a lot of criticism for being too hard on the Mets thus far in the early going(booing, etc.). Mike & Mad Dod were touching base on it the other day (not that I really listen to much of what they say anywyas). So the “harshness” towards Randolph could be considered an over-reaction on our part, to some extent.
THAT being said, unless you’re a fan of the team, you really don’t understand what last September did to us…it had a lasting effect, and I don’t think many of us are over it yet.
We’re watching these games with a sense of urgency, almost as we were all doing last Sept….and the same urgency is neevr evident with Randolph. Take that “smug” attitude he has when dealing with the media, hence a plumeting approval rating.
Hey…a smug attitude with the Media works well. Ask Jim Rice.
The bottom line is Willie did not know the rules once again with that play with Angel Hernandez the ump. He came out and admitted he is afraid to go out and argue. The ratings should dip 100% after making comments like that. The time is coming and i believe that is mid-may the latest where if this team is under .500 the only sane baseball decision will be to call for his head. We are not there yet but it is coming..
i’m sorry, but i really have to stick up for matt here. SNY is forcing metsblog to take a more positive spin on the team? that is absolutely ridiculous.
SNY is not YES. have any of you actually watched DNL, wheelhouse, loudmouths? all these people do is scream about delgado and heilman and willie and any little thing they can get on this team about. everyone loves to complain about mike and the mad dog, but SNY’s own programming can be just as negative. and whatever SNY has invested in metsblog, they have a lot more tied into their programming.
heck, ted berg writes directly for SNY.com and his columns tend to be much more critical of the team than matt’s posts. if SNY was really looking to sanitize the internet of mets criticism i think they would start on their own content.
more often than not i disagree with him, but i honestly wish i had matt’s genuine patience and optimism with this team. he’s going to outlive me, that’s for sure.
Have you every thought about how it is called YES? It is totally appropriate. They have a bunch of YES men discussing how glorious the Yankees are…