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The Mets (11–10) lost to the Nationals (7–16) by the score of 10 to 5 in Washington, DC this evening.
For a recap and boxscore, go to SNY.tv.
…Oliver Perez looked strong through the first four innings, but just as the Mets grew a three run lead, ollie gave it all back and then some…it’s odd because every so often this seems to be the case with perez…he cruises through the first few innings then starts losing command and lets innings get away from him as he becomes more frustrated…he still needs to learn how to calm himself once things start spinning out of control…although the bullpen put this game out reach, perez’s loss of poise and command is what began the Mets demise tonight…
…speaking of the bulllpen, Aaron Heilman…jeez, what can you say…the guy is just a nightmare…can you say no confidence…same goes for Jorge Sosa…and if tonight is any sign, Duaner Sanchez is the Mets new goto guy in the eighth…
…by the way heilman is on pace to pitch in 93 games this season…just saying…
…one of the bright spots tonight was Luis Castillo, who is coming out of his early season funk, going 3-for-5 with a run and another stolen base…i understand the frustration with castillo, but this is why you can’t give up on guys earlier on…
…speaking of bright spots, Ryan Church, who went 2-for-4 with an rbi, continues to be locked in at the plate and continues to hit no matter where he is slotted in the lineup…
…on a side note, if the Mets want to bring a sausage/president type race to citi field next season, don’t…it’s gimmicky and although entertaining the first few times, it gets odd quickly…however i do miss the old airplane races they used to play on diamond vision…
…planners of citi field take note…the camera view behind home plate is awful…it’s difficult to judge where fly balls and plays down the line are headed…too many times did a ball go foul that i was sure would be fair…
…it was nice to see the Mets not go quietly in the ninth after the game got away from them as they have being doing earlier on in the season…despite that, this was a terrible loss as the Mets again failed to put a team way when they had control of the game…
The Mets will play the Braves tomorrow night at Shea Stadium.
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AHHHHHH WIllie is saying RIGHT NOW “We gotta keep running Heilman out there”
translation: “We need to keep losing more games”
Get him away from the Mets. PLEASE.
Who would you have brought in there?
i would have left perez in. he got two outs in a row.
hey
This is when you really miss a guy like Paul Lo Duca. Someone who will get loud, start yelling, flip over things in the dugout. This team is falling apart and they look calm as can be. There is something very wrong when I am throwing things around my room, and the dugout looks asleep. Willie has to get control of this team before it spirals out of control for Gods sake, GET THROWN OUT, DO SOMETHING!! AND PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE STOP PITCHING HEILMAN, send him own to triple A to find himself like they did to Trachsel in 02. Somethings gotta change here people!
Yeah, Loduca really helped last year, getting thrown out at a critical time and getting suspended. You don’t have to act like an idiot to be passionate.
Can’t wait to hear Willie in the press conference.
“Perez threw the ball well, but we need more length” “Reyes lost a little focus on that error, he just came up a little too quick”. “Its a long season…I trust my guys” “Aaron will be fine, its early…he’s still my guy.”
“History repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce”…
Welcome to the Farce, gentlemen!
Did anybody stop to think that 2006 was an abomination and that 05, 07 ans doon 08 are more what the team is about? I think as fans we expected a win after 06 and when we got the collapse of 07 we where stunned and now in 08 we want blood! We think that we deserve a winning team and we demand one. But, perhaps the team is not as good as we all think. We are blinded by faith and love of an under acheiving team. Or, as fans, we have given this team more credit than it deserves and have expectations that are set to high for them to reach. Just foor for thought. LETS GO METS !!!
Did anybody stop to think that 2006 was an abomination…
I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
note to Aaron Heilman
MAJOR LEAGUE HITTERS CAN HIT A CHANGEUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Especially when it’s all you throw!
i knowwww mannn…i was implying that also
What good would it do Willie to come out and personally bash each player to the media? Show heart? He would really lose the team then.
i would like him to stop calling for heilman from the bullpen. can someone crazy glue him to the pine?
Who would you have used there? Sosa? Smith many on here are already complaining is being used too much? Show against a RH? Wagner in the 6th?
at this point i think you’re just baiting me.
PEREZ GOT TWO GROUNDOUTS. LEAVE HIM IN. PERIOD. IF WILLIE CANNOT SEE THIS THEN WE NEED SOMEONE WHO DOES.
You got your caps lock stuck again.
Perez was done and if we had left him in and the melt down continued you guys would have been on him for not bringing him out. Either way Heilman should have been able to get the job done and did not.
he was so done HE GOT TWO GROUNDOUTS!
oh my damn caps lock again, sorry
Tell the entire story, one of the ground outs was a bunt. I would have left him in, however, then Milledge would have hit a HR and the entire site would have been flooded with Milledge losers and then Heilman would have been brought in to give up his HR right after that. Right now no decision turns out right for Willie which is why he must go.
i like you all of a sudden!
It’s hard to say if this site would be flooded with people complaining if he had left ollie in to pitch, cause he never leaves his starters in to pitch. At least if he tried we’d have someone else to blame besides heilman and the bullpen. whats it gonna take before willie makes an ajustment here. ollie was at 100 pitches on the nose, goodness please let him get out of his own jam.
oliver perez has to grow up and be able to keep his control through the 5th inning..hes gone through 6 innings one time this year and that was the 13-0 game the first week of the season against the marlins…since then its been 5 or 5+..its gonna be tough to win on those days when ur pen has to pitch 4 or 5 innings in a tie game
Agreed. I’m getting tired of Ollie and his ADHD on the mound. I don’t care how great his stuff is when he’s on; when he’s not (which is more often the case), he just can’t get it together to save his life.
I guess he’s setting himself up to be a perfect $cott Bora$-represented pitcher in the mode of Hampton, Brown, Pavano, Zito etc. At this point, any team that signs him to more than a two year deal next year is crazy (or better have a foolproof bullpen with at least two long men).
Meet the Mets, Meet the Mets!
meet gipper! the tool who whines incessantly if we don’t go 162-0!
oh wait, that’s this entire ignorant fanbase. what a bunch of idiots.
geez, sounds like you would rather watch a losing team and have no expectations than expect to win 95 games. you are the idiot!
Beat the METS. Beat the Mets. step right up and Beat the Mets, Hit a Grand Slam , steal a base, garenteed to put a tear on your face.
I know everyone likes going crazy after a bad game, but I just want to say: deal with the ups and downs of baseball. If the Mets take 2 of 3 from Atlanta, everything will suddenly be happy again. It amazes me how completely back and forth the comments on here swing from night to night based on wins and losses in April. It’s almost like some people haven’t lived through the ups and downs of a baseball season before. Some nights you win, some nights you lose. Some weeks you go 5-1, some weeks you go 1-5. You just have to hope that the it’s 4-2 more often than not in the end. And as bad as a team can look one night, they can look as dominant the next. It happens. No rhyme or reason. I say, stop complaining and let the season take some shape.
No..thats what .500 teams do. Championship teams dominate the worst teams in the league.
What’s our record vs. the Nats?
that’s your measuring stick? our record against the worst team in the league?
Did you even read the post it was in response to? Come on don’t be a tool.
i just don’t care. go back to september, we’re like 5-6 in our last 11 against them.
same story, different year.
No one said we were not. The post that you ignorantly butted in on said that good teams dominate bad teams in the league and so far based on record we have dominated the Nationals.
i know. and right now i am wearing my 2008 METS: 4-1 against DC in APRIL.
sadly the undefeated version is somewhere in nicaragua
*t-shirt, that’s supposed to be
You still don’t get the point. His post was not proof of this being a bad team. We should dominate the Nats and so far we have. We should not get killed by the Cubs and Brewers.
i get the point. i just don’t like the point.
let’s stick the the common ground here!
when did you think this was a without a doubt, “championship team.” When did that become the expectation for this team? What team can you ever expect that out of, outside of the late 90’s Yankees, mid 70’s Reds, and some very few other teams in recent history?
“No..thats what .500 teams do. Championship teams dominate the worst teams in the league.”
—the smartest thing I read all night
Finally, some here who is not a loser at heart
When we loose the division by one game, like 2007, this game will be the one. I still think that 2006 was just a lucky year and that 2005, 2007 and 2008 so far, are what we can expect from this team. Unless some changes are made. Beltran and Delgado would not scare a little leque team and if our pitchers cant hold off a last place team like the 250 Nats, what can we hope for? But, I am very happy with the team, and it’s still early. lets get it together and win tonight :}
You think this dreck is more than a .500 team? I beg to differ.
What’s the Yankees record against the Rays?
the man has spoken
and all neg. comments cease……lol
Yes, so true.
As for Heilman and Sosa, they really, really stink!
The problem is that this team is playing like it did last year. What good is a 5 game winning streak if you turn around and drop 4 of the next 5? Contenders don’t play this way.
Actually last year’s team never had a 5 game winning streak.
You just proved my point.
but this years team already does….what IS your point?
My point, gomets, is that this team is horribly inconsistent. As mentioned earlier, that’s not how a team should play if they expect to contend.
LOLOLOL
Wow…. I don’t even know what to say. I’m tired of defending this team. Heilman has lost his confidence, and until he gets it back, Willie can’t keep running him out there in big spots. Delgado did a great Buckner impression tonight. Tell me again why Carp hasn’t been brought up? He’s only hitting like .450 and has more home runs than any 2 players on the ML team combined. Let’s see if I’m being too critical by whether or not this gets posted….
If they did not post that comment then we would only have about 50 post every night. You brought up some interesting points.
Heilman has lost his confidence, however with the overuse of our pen due to our starters not being able to go deep in the game, who would you have brought in there?
Carp is not up because we want to make sure Delgado is done. I would assume the 1st step is moving him down in the order, all the way to 7th when Alou returns. Then a platoon with a RH 1B (Carp is LH) then his release and Carp brought up.
I would have left Perez in there to finish the inning. I’m not buying the bullpen being overused. It’s still April. If they’re tired 20 games into the season, there’s a bigger problem. Maybe if Willie didn’t use every pitcher on the team for 1 batter, we would have a rested arm other than Wagner in the pen.
As for being sure Delgado is done… he hit .260 last year, can’t catch up to a fastball, gets beat inside, and can only hit a homer when someone grooves an 85 mph fastball right down broadway. Oh, and let’s not mention his defense, or lack thereof.
I really do like Willie, but I think he’s managing himself right out of NY.
Delgado also hit 24 HR and had 85 RBI last season and we do not have a replacement that can give those numbers so you give him an extended chance to see if he can produce anything close to that lower in the order, then platoon, then release.
As for bringing Heilman in, Perez was done and we all want Willie to pull Perez before the melt down that always occurs. If our former 8th inning guy can’t pitch in the 6th inning then send him to AAA and bring in someone else. You can’t have 2 mop up pitchers that you don’t even trust in the 6th inning.
perez got two outs in a row. if perez was so done he should have moved to his pen with none out.
this nonsense where willie goes “well he didn’t give us enough length” has got to stop. you’re the one calling the shots, willie!
I love that idea. Let’s send Heilman down. Let Delgado drive him… you know, so he gets there safe and stuff.
“Ups and downs, ups and downs, up and downs.”
sounds like a .500 season
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As most regular’s on here know, I am Willie netural and think he has done a decent job here. He is an average manager just like Howe and Bobby V were average managers. I don’t think he is the most responsible for the collapse or the way we are playing this season. I think it is mostly the players.
However, you have to do things when teams under perform or have a negative vibe that does not change. Thus Willie, Heilman, Delgado and Sosa all have to go at this point if a suitable replacement can be found. You may lose the things they give you but you may gain a sense of urgency and a positive vibe that makes other players produce.
That is why Down got fired last year. I would not fire Peterson so Willie is next in line.
That being said, it’s so counter productive for us to just constantly post
FIRE WILLIE FIRE WILLIE FIRE WILLIE
when we have no idea who would replace him. I am sure Omar is already looking.
Metsblog I am thinking has more impact on the minds of higher ups than I think we give it credit for. I have already noticed that somethings seem to happen based on the reasonable post on here so why don’t we pick what manager we would like to bring in and start that underground campaign. Anything is better than hearing the same stuff over and over again.
earl weaver
For someone who constantly wants Willie gone, is that the best you can come up with?
is that comment 4 me?
i’ve been pretty quiet on willie meng
big brother is watching
be careful
Yes it was for you, bring somthing intelligent to the conversation for once. I even agree with you that Willie needs to go if a decent replacement can be found and you want a dead AL manager to come in.
go take some happy pills buddy
it was a joke ur freakin moron
good comment…even though I’ll admit that I’m one of the emotional posters who will post the just “fire Willie” post once in a while….but its jsut that there are so many things to say that I can’t type them all as to why he needs to go…
As for a replacement, I would like HoJo or Carter, but I’m not sure if Hojo would shake up the clubhouse enough. Any other ideas? I wanted Girardi last season, but we saw that didn’t happen(…maybe Omar likes candy in the clubhouse)
nose candy
I think Girardi would have been horrible here and I don’t think he will do well with the Yankee’s. The only reason he may is that they might respect him because he played there. He over achieved with and over achieving team full of young players, I would not trust him with a team of both vets and youth.
Hojo, while I like him would not help the current vibe.
Right now blindly I am saying Carter but I really don’t know what kind of manager he is.
jerry manuel
ken oberkfell
wally backman
gary carter
lee mazzilli
to name a few
Again be serious most of those guys on that list would make the team worse. Jerry Manuel would not get rid of a negative vibe in the current clubhouse.
Ken Oberkfell and Wally Backman have way to much baggage and would not be any better.
Gary or Lee are the only creditable names you mentioned that might bring something different to the team.
i’m sorry, but willie is a flat out terrible manager. and he is carrying around the baggage of the worst collapse in history around.
i just don’t care which of these guys it is, you can pick the one you like the best. something has to change.
I agree something has to change but if you could step back from the ledge and get control of your emotions you would realize that Willie is an average manager. He still needs to go, we agree on this but not for just anyone that could make the team worse.
i never ever thought willie was even an average manager. not even in 2006.
Realistically, Lee Mazzilli. For those of you who will say “he sucked in Baltimore,” let me just add that he had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in Baltimore. Has a similar attitude to Bobby V., BUT seems a lot smarter and lacks the baggage. Gary Carter seemed a bit of a prima donna when no Major League team would hire him because he wouldn’t accept a AAA managerial gig (and there were like five teams that wanted him to start off with). Oberkfell’s problems with cancer and Wally Backman’s problems off the field both negate them realistically (although I personally have nothing against Wally). And there’s a reason Jerry Manuel isn’t managing a Major League team.
I could see Lee.
WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA
….did you just say Art Howe was an average manager?
art howe and willie randolph to me are the same guy
one guy has a talented team, the other had nothing
Howe didn’t need a season and a half to learn the art of the double-switch!
Bobby V is worlds apart from Art Howe and Willie. Bobby V got his players to play hard for him. Remember what we got from Benny Agbayani and Masoto Yoshi? Bobby worked miracles with lesser players, players loved playing for him and he was a fantastic in-game strategist. He may not be up there with the greats but he is without a doubt one of the great Met managers, Essentially he got fired for a really bad month of September his final year. I wonder, given recent events if the Wilpons still consider that a bad September. Booby V is three times the skipper Willie is and it shouldn’t even be legal to group him with Art Howe.
“Aaron’s my guy…Aaron’s my guy…Aaron’s my guy…Aaron’s my guy…Aaron’s my guy…Aaron’s my guy…Aaron’s my guy…Aaron’s my guy…Aaron’s my guy…Aaron’s my guy…Aaron’s my guy…”
he really does lick the hand after a homerun
classic
LOL delgado’s my guy delgado’s my guy delgado’s my guy
the spitzer face was on point
looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue…
FIRE ISIAH!
Isiah Randolph
BTW, Delgado looked good again.
In yesterday’s NYT, he was quoted as saying, ” I feel good at the plate.” Gosh, imagine what it might look like if he feels bad at the plate.
Nobody wants Delgado to succeed more than I, but I am very close to admitting defeat on him. Please, God, prove me wrong.
Not Willies point, not even that bad. Not at the point of panic yet.
Mets are currently loaded with under-preforming players, some drastically under preforming. They will either get better, or get replaced. And even so, the team is staying afloat.
I understand why fans are panicking, I yell at the TV too, but we don’t need 600 comments of whining every night :P
Staying afloat how, exactly? Because they’re only a few games out of first? They “floated” along in first place last Septemeber playing this way, and we all saw how that turned out. I don’t care where they are in the standings, they reek right now.
Then win!
They do have to win, I’m just saying, there is still time for things to go right, and this really isn’t Willies fault, strategy wise.
You can argue that the massive under performance is Willie’s fault, and maybe you eventually have to make a move for mojo-reasons, but I honeslty do not think Heilman, Sosa, Delgado, Castillo, others under preforming is Willie’s fault…
Castillo will hit .300 by the end of may and despite the general panic hes still a quality player. Hes actually a potent weapon in a good lineup. Our lineup isn’t so bad either. We still have Alou and Castro to hopefully come back and some of the kids on the farm have been surging since spring. A decision on Delgado is due and at this point I think you have to cut him. Hes been producing so poorly hell probably play himself out of even class b status-and we won’t offer him arbritration so we get no compensation when he leaves and are stuck with his salary regardless. I’m optimistic his replacements would perform better. I respect all that Carlos has done in this game but its hard to imagine that we couldn’t plug in any number of options there and not gain an advantage on offense and defense. I’d rather have the season rest on the health of Alou than the production of Delgado. And I don’t expect Alou to stay healthy. Heilman and Sosa ARE Willies fault because whether he leaves a starter in longer, uses other relievers, or lights a fire under Omar to find replacements, this is his team and he needs to try something, anything, to avoid bringing these guys in anymore. Can’t we get any value for Heilman? We lost out on Brian Fuentes because the Rocks wanted us to throw in Show to and Omar thought that was too much. I would have drove them both to the airport personally. What was he thinking?
At least Heilman stands up to media questions after a bad game
Other guys speak English too!
Get rid of all three… the three headed stooges (Isiah.randolph.deldone.heilman) are sinking us…
Now the Braves will come into Shea and take all three. I hate to write this, but there’s just no doubt in my mind. Maybe they will take one out of three from Pittsburgh after.
Don’t worry.. it’s early in the season…. (bbbbuuuullllssshhht)
Didn’t you say that the Phillies would sweep the Mets after the Mets lost the home opener? Yeah, that’s what I thought.
What makes you think that the Braves who are under .500 coming into tonight would sweep the Mets at home?
Well considering they are pitching Hudson and Smoltz against us, the odds are pretty good that we get swept.
The same Smoltz that lost to the Nats 6-0 on Tuesday?
yea the same smoltz that gave up 1 run and struck out ten. way to not read the box score on that 6-0 game. why don’t you spend more time following the rest of the league and less time baiting people on here in every single thread.
Welcome Don Juan Logan. It does not matter how Smoltz pitched and yes I did know he pitched well and just like normal the Braves pen blew it. That is why they have a worse record than we do.
And by the way I only bait for seahorsesass and I got you.
Way to pretend like you knew Smoltz pitched well. Twit. When you put your foot in your mouth, you’re better off disappearing, not digging yourself a deeper hole.
this is getting really old and frustrating at this point. Yes its early, yes if they take 2 outta 3 against the braves im sure all of us would be happy, but games like this does not inspire much confidence going against a team thats one of our biggest threats in the NL. Willie is not going to get fired lets just come to grips with that. Delgado is just plain horrible at this point. They say if your not helping with the bat at least help with the glove…. This guy obviously missed that memo. Heilman i believe need a loooooooooooong breather and needs to work on his mechanics. Id go for sending him down to AAA for a while and sending up Muniz just so willie isnt so “tempted” to use him. As far as sosa…….im at a loss with words against this guy. I know we need a long man, is there anyone else in AAA that we can call on for this role. On a bright note Slappy goes 3-5 which shuts me and alot of other people up about him being done. Yes its one game but all his hits in the night were solid legit hits and thats something he can defiantly build on. Church is awsome enough said. Beltran seems to be coming around when having some sort of protection in the lineup. Wright needs to pick it up a little 0-9. Reyes needs to be more patient at the plate and get on base via walk or whatever. Casanova seems to have power but has to work on common sense. Pagan seems to have cooled off a bit.
All and all yes we have the pieces when running on all cylinders to be an unstoppable team. Willie needs to manage his bullpen ALOT better and the lineup must start producing. They have to be able to put together a winning streak and for some reason they are not able to.
Lastly……..I hope OP’s price tag is not going to be to high because this has been several starts now that he is just not getting the job done. His focus reminds me of zambrano. He would be ok through some innings but look absolutely lost in others. Ricks got ALOT of work to do. Lets get to it.
Put your game faces on guys. Here comes chip and the braves
Aaron Heilman = Calvin Schiraldi
Aaron Heilman=Doug Sisk
Nah…Sisk was a whole different level of suckitude. Easier chant too.
I’m just going to say this.
This team is in serious need of a change.
For the people who don’t see that, all I can say is April will turn to May soon. Before you know it, we’re into the Summer, and these “just one game” isolated incidents have piled up. Then it’s too late.
Call it whining if you want to, but remember the lack of urgency we saw last September? We’re seeing it again now that it’s “Just April”
Something’s gotta change.
It’s not a lack of urgency, its a negative vibe. The players are playing hard but they can’t get out of their own way sometimes.
It isn’t a negative vibe, just maybe they aren’t that good at baseball. Individual Players, that is:
1. Delgado has been getting closer to “done” every year
2. Sosa has never been a consistent pitcher
3. Castillo is coming off double knee surgery and old
4. Beltran has never been a high AVG guy
5. Reyes still has to prove he can be a dominant player every year
6. Sanchez is coming off a year of not playing
7. Heilman is wildly inconsistent
8. Our starting LF is Angel Pagan
9. Etc
Now, that’s not to say it’s been all bad. Pagan, Sanchez, Figueroa, Pelfrey, Schneider, Church have all exceeded expectations.
But when you depend on some of those guys to over-preform, when a lot of players are under-preforming, stuff is gonna eventually hit the fan.
I love your post but what might our record be if we simply had a league average 5 hitter and and 2 league average righty relivers instead of Delgado, Heilman and Sosa. Without the rally killer and gopher ball twins I think the rest would fall into place quite nicely. Carlos Muniz needs to be on the roster. The guy keeps pitching effectively only to get sent down last year and again this year. And why is our pen so damn static for so long? I often can’t keep track of all the middle relievers moving around throughout the year on other teams. We have been running the same awful righties out there for over half a season now. At least rookies would show hitters a different look and limit the workload. Guys with options. Hitters are sitting on Heilman and Sosa. They know exactly what they’ll throw and when. They’re not fooling anybody ‘cept Omar and Willie
We’ll probably take 2 of 3 from the Braves. We’ll feel really good and then blow against the Pirates.
Confidence is low.
Maybe it’ll be like 1990 where we stated at 9-10 in april
91-71 at the end…….but is it enough?
Enough of these players managers
He’s not willie anymore….After today I’ll refer to him as willy randolph.
I’m sorry but there is no “nice to see them have fight in them in the 9th” after a game like this. Maybe if they didn’t have such a sloppy inning that resulted in the Nats extending the lead to 10 you could say that. But after spitting the bit on offense all game and coming up lax on defense after the grandslam, there’s no bright spot to anything.
Dear Mets:
Please turn on the magic.
I want to believe.
black magic?
This team might just not be built to win this year.
The best thing we can hope for from many of the veterans is that they can live up to their accomplishments that started 10-15 years ago. Eventually time is going to win that battle.
I love Alou, but we’re banking WAY too much on him not only coming back and hitting (he will!), but also being able to stick around (will he?) That’s a lot of pressure to put on one guy who isn’t even back yet.
The pen is going to be completely broken down long before we get to the dog days. That’s if some of them aren’t already.
Nobody wants to see them win more than I do, but it’s going to take a lot more than what we’re seeing from them right now.
good points, especially on old man Alou!
I have not been the guy who boos so far this year( and those booing santana needed to be tossed from shea)
But if I was going to the game tomorrow I would boo this team till my throat is sore ( with a few minor exceptions, ofcourse)
it’s only April… haven’t you heard?
Since you are upstate, maybe the telegraph has not reached you yet
This team can play like garbage any time of the year, and it has been, so I will talk about it
I’m going tomorrow. I won’t boo. I just can’t bring myself to boo my own team… Unless I really believe someone is just collecting a paycheck.
In my opinion, there isn’t a player on this team doing that. Well not that I can prove anyway :)
Having said that, if people around me boo, they have every right. They may be trying, but they have their collective heads up their asses right now.
Why boo when one can chant “Fire Willie!”?
Those 9th-inning Met rallies are always the same. They never amount to anything more than a death twitch.
This team needs a shot of adrenaline directly into the heart (of course, that assumes you could find its heart).
Death twitch…….comment of the week!
Blue magic…It’s a brand name…
y’all ought to STFU
the Mets have 10 losses – 10
it’s early
VERY early
and we aren’t far from the division lead, without having kicked it into gear
just STFU
good point
i am still waiting for the 2007 mets to kick it in gear actually
what world are you living in?
Hey u sound like steve phillips
“We’re only 6 games out.”
yea and we were 4 games under .500
STFU
Nice.
Sometimes I forget that the early games don’t count. Thanks for straightening us out on that.
“and we aren’t far from the division lead, without having kicked it into gear”
By the way. Remember the last day of the season last year? We weren’t that far from the division lead then either.
So?
I’m sorry ever time Perez is in the mound he does not look solid. He is the one guy who I think can win in russian roulette.
I can taste the champagne…
coming into the season it was clear that there would be a close three team race for the nl east. the mets had a slight edge with santana coming aboard. then pedro and alou were hurt immediately. this division race is going to come down to september and be within 2 or 3 games all year.
the mets are not running away with this division. it’s not 2006. that’s not happening again. fans wanted 2007 to be 2006 and 2008 to be 2006. until you get that out of your minds you’ll be miserable watching this team.
they were terrible tonight. they deserve to get grief for playing sloppy in the field especially delgado. there is not excuse for not bending over to get the ball 3 times in a week. that being said, this game was on ollie. you have a 3 run lead against a bad team you have to win. period.
they’re still on par with the phils and braves who have had some terrible games too. forget last year and enjoy the new season. don’t push you anger on the team. you’re making it worse. they know what’s posted here.
Yeah, we should all take responsibility for this. They go right to their laptops and read the blogs. And we’re hurting their feelings and making things worse.
not we. you :)
santana…booooooo!
What?
I’ve posted like 100 times now that I never boo.
20 times that we were cheering to try and drown out the people who booed Santana.
You’re just trying to start something.
Calm down Zen you are letting these guys get to you. They have a right to be constantly negative just like we have a right to be rational. Most of the constant negative posters will be gone if we start winning anyway.
that last one was just a joke.
OK. Wasn’t sure.
And thereal, you can’t just cut all of the comments in half and call them either negative or rational.
That’s just incorrect.
You are right but the ones that say fire Willie and bring in anybody else or release Delgado or worse the Willie sucks, Heilman sucks post are both negative and irrational. They are just random venting.
zen is omar
i am trying to convince him to get a new manager
Don’t ask me how I know, but that’s just not possible.
you’re welcome for santana. you know what i’m saying?
you really think the Mets get on the plane, open their laptop and read Metsblog?
Actually I am guessing they do. Blogging has changed sports from HS up. HS coaches now spend the entire morning after a game looking at message boards to see what people are saying about them. I would bet anything that Willie and Omar know what is being said on here for the most part.
They don’t. I’ve seen alot of these guys after games. Like at hotels and stuff. They really are normal people. Just think about the story you heard about Beltran and his daughter and how it changed his life and priorities. That was dead-on true.
You are right, they are normal people. Normal and really strange people read blogs both the same. It’s human nature to want to know what people are saying about you.
you know, if this is true, then maybe the mets have favorite commenters
personally i think willie makes moves just to get me to complain about them so he can read them later
read that willie? i figured you out
not the players directly though i’ll sure a couple do. i know chipper jones does with braves blogs (and posts).
most of the people at sny read the blog comments as do the media. same with listening to wfan. then it’s passed along to a player here and there. it gets around. not a specific comment, but the general tone about the team and individuals.
that’s what i’ve been told by someone who would know.
regardless. people have free speech. say whatever you want.
Well, in fairness, some of those people are getting paid to do those things.
WFAN for instance.
Brian Shneider and Willie Randolph have weekly spots on the station. Most people don’t realize they are paid for those spots.
So when Willie is waiting for his segment, he’s probably listening on hold. Maybe he even listens for a few minutes after to see what people say about his spot, but that’s a real stretch.
To suggest that Willie or Omar give a rat’s ass about what anyone is posting here or what they’re saying to Steve Somers in the middle of the night… Well I don’t buy that.
And anyway, you said these comments are making things worse. How is that possible? I worked in radio for more years than I care to remember. We always knew that 10% of the listening audience called, and they were always the ones who had a beef about something. The blogs can’t be much different.
Nothing anybody says here is going to change anything in the Mets organization.
I disagree about their impact but I am sure it is small. In today’s society blogs are a good way to judge public opinion which is stll important for a buisness and the Mets are utimately a buisness.
And this blog used to be more than just a venting post.
the mets organization care a lot about what is on wfan and on blogs. they monitor it closely. delcos said they approached him on his content about player injuries.
mike and the angry puppy get called all the time from the mets pr people.
it makes it worse b/c it creates a negative environment. that ends up at the ballpark with booing. down the stretch last year it was clear that the fans were booing or indifferent. there was a push to get people to go to the games and cheer with a close race.
criticism if fine. it’s interesting. but the venom for individuals isn’t helpful or appropriate.
Anyone who runs a business knows that they will never hear from 90% of their customers. They know 10% of their people fill out comment cards, post on message boards, make angry phone calls, etc.
You don’t make changes to accomodate the vocal minority. We can vent all we went. Let’s not overestimate how much clout we have. We have none. We can stay home and stop spending our money. That’s the only thing that registers, and they know it ain’t gonna happen.
True, utimately they know they will still sell their product but they hate negative publicity. It’s just that soon some of the things work themselves out. Willie being fired will soon go from the vocal minority that you are speaking of to the vocal majority very soon if we don’t start to win.
of course, people can vent. who the hell cares what i think? i was just venting about the complainers.
Now that’s my old Zen. “criticism if fine. it’s interesting. but the venom for individuals isn’t helpful or appropriate.”
SNY runs shows like loud mouths and wheelhouse and DNL where guys just sit there and scream at each other about bad things about the mets. and usually, how awesome the yankees are.
so i bet the mets can live with a couple angry posts on metsblog.
lol, not even posts, comments! if you’re really crazy and lucky, maybe matt will remember something you write. and then you get to play wiffleball. that’s about it!
don’t get too excited. i’m pushing the whiners’ buttons including you.
complaining about complainers…….hmmm
id complain but who’d listen
i’d listen, but then i’d probably complain about it.
all i ask is that when there are problems, changes get made.
if delgado can’t hit, that’s one thing. if he is either too distracted or too injured to play defense, that’s another. and that another needs to be addressed.
I competely agree with you about Delgado. I would move him down to 7th if his hitting continues to struggle. And if he commits another fielding blunder I would sit him for a couple of games.
i get most annoyed when this isn’t even addressed by willie or the media. obviously the guy cannot just magically hit when he wants to but if he can’t get his head in the game to play confident defense (or his body, if he’s hurt) he has to sit! and if the manager isn’t sitting him he either doesn’t see the need or doesn’t care. and then i get angry.
Problem is right now who do you play? And things are not in a vacuum. If you take a respected veteran and just dump him with out giving him all his “chances” then you can forget about getting some other FA. This guy had incredible numbers for most of his career and it is sad that he has declined this much so quickly. Again, if his defensive struggles continue then he has to go. Offensively I am ok leaving him around as a #7 hitter and eventually platooning him if need be. As a #7 he could still be dangerous but the lack of fielding makes him useless if that continues.
i never said to dump him. (it may be possible that i said that, but anything i say pre-scotch doesn’t count.) but if he doesn’t have his head in the game on D, he has to sit. i don’t care if easley, anderson, or even abreu spells him for a series. sometimes we just need a fresh body out there.
Here’s a fun thing to whine about (while we are in whining mode):
Why do I have to listen to post-game WFAN and hear an ad for Boomer looking for the greatest Yanks fan to have a party, and then an ad for a special Yanks Daily News edition? Especially after a loss like tonight’s, it is seriously kicking Mets fans while we are down.
Just get it over with and make WFAN a full-time Yanks station and let me listen to Mets games someplace else…
the only met soul at the fan is heusler… poor bastard.
and Evan
I’m curious as to what people mean when they say the team has “a lack of urgency”? If they were more demonstrative in showing their frustration from losing would that show they have “urgency”? If they were winning more, would that show a proper amount of urgency?
Just what is this “urgency” people speak of?
how about by sitting down delgado… sending down heilman.. let’s start right there. Who are we going to replace them with? who cares? they can’t do as bad as these two are… right?
That is not urgency that is panicing. Send them down when you have a plan not before, that would be stupid.
heilman is completely lost and absolutely should be sent down. and possibly reinvented as a starter. i think this would do him more good than making him mop up.
(can he be sent down? anyone know?)
Ok, that’s not a bad post. It may not be the right thing to do but it’s better than Heilman sucks trade him for a bag of balls.
You are right, I wonder if he has any options left? I still think that if we can get a few good games out of him the best thing to do is trade him to a team that would look at him as a potential starter. My plan before he blew up was to trade him for Kendry Morales as I have said over and over again. But with each game that becomes more impossible.
thank you. the scotch is kicking in.
Urgency is not letting a 7 game lead with 17 games to play slip through your finger.
Urgency is when you fall behind, you don’t fold your tent and go home.
Urgency is playing hard and into the game (you know, remembering to cover first base occasionally)
Do I need to continue…?
I just think tis whole term “sense of urgency” has become popular with fans but really means nothing. Yes the Mets blew the 7 game lead with 17 to play but was it because they weren’t playing “with urgency”? I just don’t know what that means. They’ were trying to win. They just didn’t. And they’re trying to win now – and they’re not (in about half of their games).
Oh but yes, I’m sure if they only just decided “hey we need to play with ‘a sense of urgency’ ” they’d surely be a much more successful team….. (sarcasm)
Umm, didn’t several of them admit they were to complacent, just waiting to win, because they “knew” they would? Isn’t that a lack of urgerncy?
Urgency is when you know something isn’t working, you stop being stubborn and try something else. And if you try something else and it works, you stick with it. At least until it doesn’t work anymore. Rinse. Repeat.
Why do these teams have managers? A bunch of us could get together tomorrow and play ball, so obviously players with all of that talent know how to play a damn baseball game. But they need a decision makers to… make decisions!
That’s when the urgency comes in. The decision makers (and Omar gets a complete pass too for somet reason) are supposed to put the best team on the field. They get paid millions of dollars to do that. And when something isn’t working, it’s their job to figure out something else.
Paying someone millions of dollars to say “We’ll get ‘em tomorrow” is a total lack of urgency when everyone can see something is wrong. That’s what we’re supposed to be doing as fans. We have a right to expect more from the team leadership.
too many typos.
must calm down. :)
It is the next best thing to “chemistry”, and closely related to “fire”
Urgency defined: waiting on line for the bathroom at Shea.
If the Mets wanted to get on base with that kind of urgency, we’d win every game.
Urgency is realizing all you have to do to guarantee at least a shot at the division is win 1 more game against the Marlins. Urgency is coming to terms with the collapse and starting the new season off with renewed focus and playing crisp, clean, fundamental baseball, turning every pitch and every at bat into a mini holy war. Theres a definition. Want to see it used in a sentence? If the New York Mets had a greater sense of URGENCY, they wouldn’t act as if losing all the time doesn’t matter. Perhaps they would even win more often.
Is it bad that I’m now checking Metsblog as much as I did for Santana updates, just waiting for the “Willie Fired” post
but on the plus side…..
Harold Reynolds! ( at first??)
BTW why has no one entertained the idea of stache at first? ( is he hurt?)
I think he is still hurt.
Here’s a fun fact:
Carlos Delgado: 4 extra base hits
Johan Santana: 3 extra base hits
Whoever asked Johan to play 1B four days a week is on to something.
What do we know about Gary Carter as a manager? I kinda like the idea right now.
Not bringing all the race stuff up because I don’t think that it is about that but would Omar hire a guy like Carter to replace Randolph? Would he bring in someone his is more familiar with like the hitting coach in Texas just because he is one of his guys? Again, I am the last one to suggest that he is racist but he does like to stick with people that he is comfortable with.
Very possible. that might work…Jaramillo. He was a finalist in the first place, right?
i am so pissed he didn’t bring jaramillo in during the offseason. and he would have except he had to cater to willie’s brittle post-collapse ego.
I just don’t think Jaramillo would work, he would be too much of an Omar puppet. I just think it needs to be someone attached to the Mets but not currently involved. Like I said right now I am blindly saying Carter.
literally anyone is fine with me. seriously, get lenny dykstra in there and have him run to the mound in between day trading sessions.
See it’s comments like that that show you just have an agenda against Willie and have no desire to make the Mets better.
Put an 86 on your name and u all of a sudden become an authority on what a good comment is.
yeah dude, because i was totally serious.
willie randolph has become the symbol of complacent losing for this organization. maybe it isn’t his fault (sure looks like it from here though) but it doesn’t matter. this team is not playing well on defense and on the basepaths and that says to me their heads aren’t in the game. and a new manager might be the splash of cold water that wakes them up.
i guess they could totally suck under the wrong guy but that’s a chance i’m willing to take. because even steady everything will even out at .500 willie is not taking this team where it needs to go.
Yes, just like if you put a 17 after your name you become an idiot. ;)
You should try it, and watch what happens to all your post. You will stop sounding like an idiot and seem like a rational adult.
Again, just joking as I have been in most of my post tonight.
You gloom and doomers sure don’t like having your chain pulled do you?
Oh and Dykstraw, again we are agreeing things have to change. But I know we can stay in the race with Willie until a good replacement can be found. I see no reason to bring in a guy who is even worse and then be on our 3rd manager in a year to open Citifield.
bud u really gotta chill the hell out
Why because I am messing with you guys?
i don’t think willie gets replaced as long as brass feels like we’re “staying in the race.” and for the record, i have no problem with just “staying in the race” if that means we’re playing crisp ball and running with one or two other good teams in the division. but floating around .500 is not something i think should be tolerated, regardless of how close or far that puts us from first.
practically speaking though, you’re right. omar has no good reason to fire his fall guy.
Well if we can stay in the Race then maybe we could make a run in a season that was not meant to be the season. I really don’t think that this is THE team anyway. I think that the new group that comes in next year with Alou, Pedro, Elduque, and Delgado gone will be THE team.
LOL. wait til next year in april.
well at least it’s not ruining my birthday again.
and what makes you think this team is gonna be better next year? i don’t see a lot of those holes being filled.
They have to be filled. You can’t go into the season with 20 players :)
I think that a cheap 1B will be found through FA or trade.
LF will be Pagan until Fmart is ready.
That frees up Pedro, Alou, Delgado, Elduques money to be spent on pitching.
Besides as you said if we don’t win this season then Willie will be gone and that has to be better right? ;)
amen on the cameras. I feel like I’m watching a golf ball land in the fairway from the blimp view. it’s borderline unwatchable…
i kinda like the video game baseball angle.
must be terrible on small TVs where you can’t follow the ball though.
You think the Harold Reynolds signing is the first domino to fall…
Harold replaces Lee Mazzilli,
Mazzilli replaces Wille…everything is in place. Just pull the trigger.
My other 2-birds-with-one-stone solution is Keith as player/manager. He can replace Willie and Delgado and just collect one pay check.
I’m kidding of course, but I’m just trying to keep my sanity…
add harold reynolds to the list of guys i’d rather see manage
i have an idea. fire willie. don’t even hire another manager. just set up a laptop in the dugout. then have polls during the game and allow the fans vote for pitching changes, double-switches, squeeze plays etc.
Just in case you don’t read the older posts in the thread…
Why are you suggesting that I booed Johan Santana?
Just curious.
huh? is this directed at me?
if it is, my post was not a response to anyone’s post, and I did not implicate anyone
No, it was directed at Zen. I didn’t know he was joking.
Sorry about that.
can i post the post game interview here in the comments section?
admit you like the idea.
omar, i LOVE the idea
Its like the only games we win now are 10 to 6 games. Anytime there’s a close game where, you know, Willy has to actually manage and make crucial decisions…we tend to lose. What is it about this guy….He’s not a good in game manager, He not a great motivator. What else is there? Why do people stick up for him. He sucks!!!
Time for a team haircut. Delgado needs SOMETHING to get him going, and Beltran just needs a buzzcut.
And now David Newhan ruining it this time.
Great job by Gary Cohen asking if they would take phone calls. Haha! I love his sense of humor!
off topic – did anyone else see this crazy racist “fabulous las vegas” game commercial from new york lottery?
also, gary apple sounds really creepy when he says “tickles the twine”
I have a sad but true statement after going to this game tonight. While I am not the negative type and I do not think this team is in deep trouble yet and I also am not saying fire Willie, I do think the Mets may have had a better home-field advantage tonight then they do in Shea. There had to have been more Mets fans present then Nationals fans and there was no booing, except for when Heilman exited which is somewhat understandable. This is what the Mets need at Shea, not booing after every minor occurrence.
The booing is ridiculous.
I have a bad feeling it’s going to be worse this weekend too, because it might start early.
It doesn’t help, that’s for damn sure.
The franchise only has themselves to blame. By not holding anybody accountable for the collapse….they were asking for a short fuse on the part of the fans.
I think Willie should of brought in joe smith instead of heilman in the 6th, they needed a ground ball pitcher in that situation. Heilman gives up the long ball too much and is in a slump. I still think heilman is a good pitcher he is just going through a rough patch. But Willie needs to learn who to bring in and when. Also Sosa needs to go and should of not been brought in the game, we still had a shot when it was 7-4, should of brought in smith or feliciano. Right now my 7th inning pitcher would be smith, 8th sanchez and 9th wagner who has looked awesome this year.
OMAR: FIRE WILLIE RANDOLPH NOW AND GET IT OVER WITH ALREADY!! Other than Santana, Wright, Church, Schneider, and Pagan EVERY other Met SUCKS. Some grossly overpaid nonproducers here. Just disgusting. I laugh when the Mets advertise CitiField..to sell tickets. hey pals – the Mets are basically a .500 club, they make stupid mistakes in the field, they cant hit, (fexest HRs in the NL WTF?? I’ve wasted too much of my time watching them disappoint. Mark my words Randolph is gone by the end of the season.
Just DISGUSTED and thinking the following thought: “What logical sense does it make to “root” for overpaid, multimillionaires paly this game?? AND THEY LOSE!
Pathetic.
Fire Willie and Fck the mets.
Kinda late for this kinda venting isn’t it? Go drink a warm glass of milk or something. We are all frustrated but that’s something right there. You will never make it through the season.
fck you.
not you thereal, the idiot OP
Well it is late, but I guess I will pass tonight ;)
go burn u philly trash
What is your teams record?
You guys are the defending champs. The Mets failures last year help you guys out big time. Just like in 93 when your philthies won something……you phillie fans got all big just to fall on your faces for years to come.
Brett Myers will be giving his wife shiners by June when they are 10 games out.
Hey, nothing like a Philly fan to unite all of us. Maybe that is what I will do from now on. When the post just get overwhelmingly negative on here I will change my screen name to RyanHoward’s fat roll and post negative comments.
i think the guy is a mets fan
which makes it worse i think
Well if he actually is then being called a philly fan by all of us should be punishment enough.
I don’t know if anyone will read this, but I’d just like to say I have enjoyed being a new poster here during this road trip. I’ll be at Shea for the Braves series and two of the Pirates games, so I won’t be around. I’ll be back after that, and hopefully I won’t bore everyone to tears. Anyway, the internet robs us of hearing each others tones or voice or seeing facial expressions. Because of that, things get taken out of context. I have a feeling if everyone here got together for a couple of $8 warm beers at Shea, we would all get along well. Doesn’t mean everyone would agree, but what fun would that be? Anyway, for whoever is left, have a good night!
And…
LET’S GO METS!
I don’t understand the reason why we can’t bring up Carp and send Anderson down and at least give him a shot to play and see major league pitching. Who cares if Delgado feels threatened (though the problem here is the Willie does), maybe it’ll be a realization for him that he needs to start making adjustments or something rather. Also, we did acquire Vargas, correct? He can’t be worse than Sosa as the long man.
I agree with the poster who says we shouldn’t be panicking, yet when the downs of the peaks and valleys become ongoing trends, changes need to be made. We are starting to see developing trends though, which is quite scary.
Can Darling manage? (only half-joking here)
I would bring up Vargas, but I am guessing they are saving him to see what happens with Figgy.
As for Carp, you have 2 things there. One they are not ready to cut Delgado. Being that both are LH then you would not bring up Carp and have him sitting on the bench. You can’t platoon them because Carp can’t hit LHP at all. Two you don’t want to start the clock on a kid that is not ready.
we could probably get mike sweeney from the a’s for peanuts now that they signed big hurt. i would platoon him with delgado.
I think I would try Abreu first? Who knows what he has and he is RH.
i’d use easley if it’s easier to find a backup middle IF
It is April 25th, I repeat, it is April 25th. What has happened to us?
After a win, there is no negativity anywhere, but after every single loss everyone is calling for Willie’s removal and just flat out whining . Aren’t we the ones that are supposed to believe? Yes, I agree, get Heilman very far away from this team at this point, but guys, just calm down for a second. It’s April. And you know what, last year they started off blowing everyone away, and well, we all know how that turned out. If theres anything to learn from last year, it’s that its a LONG, LONG, season, and you can’t go nuts after every game.
C’mon guys, believe.
The Mets are 65-66 since June 1st, 2007. That’s 131 games. It’s getting close to an entire baseball season of mediocrity.
I will have to say that most of the posters on here tonight are rational and know that we have the talent to be a good team but something is just not right. Most even believe that Willie leaving COULD spark the team a little or maybe not but it’s worth a try. There are no where near as many doom and glooms on here as usual after a bad loss.
Maybe the Mets can give Willie the Isaiah treatment: they don’t have to fire him, so long as he never ever talks to any of the players again and doesn’t sit in the dugout during games. Other than that, though, he’ll still be a key component of the organization.
I believe willly sucks
do u say that with a pointed finger in the air and a bad fake british accent?
I may not agree with you much but that image is one that actually made me smile tonight.
I bet someone even tried it with the accent too
add basil fawlty to my manager candidate list
benny hill
someone who knows how to make funny internet videos needs to make one all sped up of willie running to the mound to make pitching changes to the benny hill song
My God, another Fawlty Towers fan! I didn’t think any others existed! Well, at least Basil could tick off Aaron Heilman by continually mentioning his last name in connection with the Sieg Heil (and not knowing it, either)…the one with the Germans was THE best episode.
Spot on
Well believe it or not I actually enjoyed the comment section on here after a loss for the 1st time in a long time. So much I did not realize that it’s 12:30. I don’t really know what that is a sign of but it can’t be all bad.
my scotch was the metsblog(TM) turning point of the night
It must have been because we actually for the most part agreeded on things tonight.
Why was Harold Reynolds brought on?
because this team needs hugs : (
Who’s pitching tomorrow…Pelfrey?
Da………Despite the last start (which wasn’t awful) he’s been ok. You’re gonna see a company logo on that mouth protector he wears pretty soon.
the clock has got to start ticking on willie. watch, i bet they get swept at home by the braves. If that happens, it will be icing on the cake. Willie reminds me of a lame duck, like byron scott was before he got fired by the nets. look at the weekend matchups…
jurrgens vs. pelfrey
hudson vs. maine
smoltz vs. figueroa
(they could get shut out twice)
It’s possible but it’s not like the Braves are playing great right now either. They are having some of the same luck. Tuesday night Smoltz pitched a gem and the pen gave up the game. They lost 6-0 to the Nats.
With that bullpen they have we will always have a chance to win the game.
the mets never hit the braves top pitchers.
jurrgens? i wont even go there
Shiiiiiiiittttt © Clay Davis
guillermo mota: 1-0 .90era 10ip 7h 1r 10k’s
Now that Heilman’s been demoted, any inning can be the “**** AARON HEILMAN” inning, where **** rhymes with the word puck.
This guy gives off the Franco, Looper, Benitez and Mel Rojas vibes.
I wish he would give Franco vibes that would be a huge improvement.
the braves aren’t playing well right now, however, as a team, i think that they are put together much better than the mets. and this is with teixera hitting .244. it pains me to say this, but outside of their bullpen, the braves are probably a more sound ballclub than the mets
he meant giuseppe franco
Looking like he even wants to be on the mound would be an improvement
They stopped doing the airplane races because in one part of the race they fly right next to the World Trade Center. You should have known that.
Hell-man puts himself on the couch:
“I’ve just got to figure out a way to make better pitches,” Heilman said.
“Certainly this is a little atypical,” Heilman said, (uh, no dip$h!t, this is quite typical for you since mid ‘07) “but it’s not something that I haven’t gone through in the past. Maybe not to this degree, but I’ve just got to keep going out there and battling and being aggressive, and be confident that things are going to turn around.”
only if you take your pestilence away from this organization…..jeez, get this guy away from my Mets……
Tonight’s game was rough. They’re vulnerable. After Heilman gave up the ding-dong, and then Sosa gave up a couple more, you could see the defense implode.
It’s hard to field a ground ball when your out there on the field thinking, “We’re a disaster. If I don’t get a hit my next time at bat… oh man here comes the ball.” It’s not fun when your distracted obsessing over how bad your team is playing.
Tonight was a new low in Mets style losing.
I’m going to tomorrow’s game. I’ll be holding the sign that says, “Mets Fan Against Booing the Mets”
Pelfrey’s gonna rock the house.
I’m the reason they lost, as Lopez came up I said “it’s ok, Felipe doesn’t hit home runs.”
Seriously though, what is Willie doing bringing Aaron in for the 6th?!? I’d much rather have seen Smith or Sanchez in that situation.
Randolph, if you want to keep your job, the solution is simple: let your starters go deeper in games. I keep hearing about Perez’s meltdowns, for instance, but what was the score when he left the game? 3-3. With two outs. And an erratic kid at the plate. Don’t talk to me about meltdowns. 3-3 is not a meltdown. 10-3 is a freaking meltdown.
Saying “Who would you have brought in?” in that situation is missing the point. You don’t bring anyone in. You let Perez try to pitch out of it. When your middle relievers are as erratic as the Mets’, you use them sparingly; go with your starter as long as you possibly can.
Look at the starters’ ERAs: Santana 3.12; Ollie 3.62; Maine 3.57; Pelfrey 3.18; heck, Figueroa’s is only a hair above four. You want these guys to give you more length, Willie? Then give them a shot at cleaning up their own messes. If that means letting them go 110-120 pitches, then so be it! Each starter shown himself clearly more reliable than your middle guys. Leave them IN!
Ollie has got to get his mechanics down. I can see whether or not a pitch is going to be a strike simply by watching his delivery before the pitch leaves his hand.
Heilman must be tipping his pitches. His stuff is too good for people to hit him at will as they are doing. Sosa the same thing.
Delgado has a hitch in which he drops his hands. When he keeps them up he hits the ball.
Reyes is swinging early and lunging at the ball. When he is successful he waits to let the ball hit the bat. He is trying to do too much again. The fix for this, move him down in the lineup for a day or two.
This team looked horrible last night. I would call a team meeting right now if I was Willie. I haven’t seen any consistent winning from them. Their mechanics are horrible. They are pressing.
They are getting where they aren’t too fun to watch.
Mingo for manager?
I got an idea for a race in the 7th inning stretch…
Get big-headed puppets of Fred and Jeff Wilpon and have them chase a bunch of working class Mets fans out of the ballpark, while Mr. Met lounges in a luxury box with a glass of Dom Perignon, a cigar, and a fat gold rope chain and designer shades. That will fit right in with Citi Field!
First base: Damion Easley
I think some of these Mets might be good enough to get called up to the big leagues soon!
Is there anyone who didn’t see that grand slam coming? The Mets had none all last year and already give up 3 in April? As Darling said, Heilman is either tipping his pitches, or the whole league is sitting on his changeup.
I personally don’t think Willie needs to be fired. Who do you want to replace him with? Dallas Green? Lee Mazilli? I think he’s still learning the job and just needs to be a better manager. Why does he refuse to use the wheel play and squeeze play? He needs to change his demeanor like Tom Coughlin did and loosen up the team. I think their problems right now are all mental and they are feeling the pressure and not executing, especially heilman, beltran and reyes. delgado is lost but there is nothing that can be done. he’s not being cut in the middle of the season. david wright is awesome at 3rd but too many throws in the dirt. delgado isnt that bad at picking them out.
Mmm. Once I saw Heilman coming in, then giving up the grandslam (I don’t even remember who he gave it up to, Felipe Lopez was it?) I knew it was over. Turned it off, think I took a nap and woke up to watch Lost.
Duaner is the new 8th inning guy and boy am I so happy about that. I want to beat Heilman up, seriously.
I still can’t get the Casanova play, ball hit almost 400 feet and he stumbles to 1st base. I’m REALLY going to miss B.Schen.