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The Mets (12–11) defeated the Braves (12–12) by the score of 4 to 3 in Shea Stadium today.
For a recap and boxscore, go to SNY.
…honestly, the best part of the game was seeing Billy Wagner come in during the ninth, with a lead, and slam the door shut tightly for a win…nice and clean…
…by the way, give a game ball to wagner, not just for the save, but for essentially completing a no-hitter, in that he has now pitched nine consecutive scoreless innings…
…Aaron Heilman allowed one run in one inning, and it left me thinking, ‘Not bad, good for him,’ which is good – and also sort of sad…that’s okay, though, aaron, one step at a time…i know i harp on the booing, but i understand post-performance booing, i get it, i don’t do it, but i get it…but, to boo a guy before he throws a pitch…now that confuses me…i mean, at least give the guy a new chance to succeed…that’s brutal…
…nice job by the middle of the lineup to finally pick up a few runs, with Ryan Church, Carlos Beltran and Carlos Delgado each driving in runs during the fourth – the only runs of the day…i’m happy, but, again, it continues, in that if the Mets do not get them all in one inning then they aren’t getting them again…
…in other words, ‘get it while it’s hot,’ is apparently the new offensive philosophy…
The Mets finish the three-game series with the Braves tomorrow at Shea Stadium, with Nelson Figueroa taking on John Smoltz.
…..seriously glad to see Wright get a few hits.
Ryan Church is a beast. I have a feeling in 5 years we’re all gonna look really silly for criticizing the Milledge trade. Church is just an extra-base hitting machine. Someone a few days ago compared him to Paul O’Neill, and I like that comparison, except he’s less crazy (not sure yet if that’s a good thing or not.)
less whiny
Not all of us criticized that trade. Two starters for an unproven prospect is always a good deal.
Church will be 30 in a few months. Most likely in 5 years, he’ll be out of MLB.
Statistically speaking you are most likely correct, but the same reasoning applies to the master blaster. For every cant miss prospect there might be 4-5 who dont last a full year in the bigs. There is excitement about the potential a 22 or 23 yr old may have, but a 29 yr old putting up 43 doubles in a single season is worth getting excited over as well, plus it makes him a more proven commodity. I see absolutely no reason to be dissatisfied with Ryan.
And maybe by then Millege will have learned a few things:
a) how to hit a curveball
b) how to take a pitch
c) how to show up on time to the game
Im watching the encore on sny now…..i saw the begingin of the game but i had my own game to play. Good tite nice game. As far as the no-hitter for wagner….yea sure thats great but starting pitchers dont have days of rest in between each game. Wagner doesnt have to worry about a pitch count as much as a starting pitcher considering he’s only in there for one inning, or from what we saw in philly last yea, lets hope so. A starting pitcher would most likely wear down after 120+ or how ever many pitches billy has thrown. Not trying to diminish it but just pionting out how it’s not complety ligit. I know matt isnt totally serious and im sure he’s know all this anyway just pionting it out for those confused. Great job wagner, keep it up. Great job matt keep it up. And for all u pessimistic met booing “fans”(notice the “”) look for the inner talent in the players. Hielmen is still throwing 94 and throws stikes…..just stikes that are too good for hitters.
To me Heilman just seems to not be able to make that one pitch. He gets himself close to getting through an inning but that one pitch just hurts him.
Wagner totally gets the game ball. He’s been simply astounding this year. It’s kind of gotten lost in all the shabby defense, atrocious hitting, and awful Sosa/Heilman crap, but Wags has been flawless.
How many more chances, Matt? Oh, that’s right… I keep forgetting it’s only April.
I can’t wait to see him, Delgado and Willie go in ‘09.
Well booing any home player isn’t going to make them suddenly breakout of a slump or get better. Plus it makes it harder for the team to get players as guys do not want to be in a situation where they cannot have a week to 10 slump without being booed out of town. I say give him a shot because he is throwing 94 and still has a nice change going. He will turn it around I just have a feeling. The stuff is there he just needs to make that one pitch that so far he can’t seem to make as he will be close to getting out of a jam or closing out the inning and than hangs one meat pitch that does him in.
I was at the game and the Boo-ing for Delgado was unreal. It was really loud and consistent throughout the game. I don’t think I’ve seen anything that bad. It didn’t help that he didn’t get a single hit.
I have to admit, I boo-ed Heilman after he gave up the run. It’s just so frustrating that this guy can’t work an inning without giving up a run or four.
Also, Willie’s handling of the bullpen is horrible. We have a 1 run lead….who is the 8th inning guy….oh yeah, he sucks and he’s now the 6th inning (??) guy. So, why not have Duaner be the new 8th inning guy again? Cause Willie is an idiot and had to wait until Shoenweis was in a jam, then he brought in Duaner to mop it up. Duaner should have been out there to start the inning and everyone in the stadium knew it, except Willie.
I can just imagine free agent to be Mark Teixeira sitting in the visiting dugout, listening to Met “fans” boo the team at every turn, and taking note. He probably turns to Chipper and says “you should’ve named your son Boo.”
he probably goes to chipper and says “who are all these people sitting around watching the game?”
“i didn’t notice them in texas or back home in atlanta”
He probably turns to Larry and says, “What kind of an adult calls himself Chipper? That’s just stupid.”
He probably turn to chipper and says,” next season when you suck, this is what Atlanta will sound like.” I think that when Heilman gives up a run we should all stand and cheer and when he surrenders a 2 o3 run HR we should rock the house !!! I also think that when Delgado is up with 1 out and bases loaded and hits a weak pop up to third base and strikes out 3 times we should go crazy cheering and chanting his name? D-E-L-G-A-D-O like the Jose chant. ans BOO because the player has set a pattern in motion that we have seen time and time again. How many runs has Heilman given up? How many oppurtunties and games has Delgado cost us? We dont want to BOO, we want to cheer, they just have to give us a reason to cheer. We dont cheer for crap because its in a Mets uniform. I am sorry about the season so far, its my fault. I have watched every game on MLB Extra Innings and missed the game yesterday and they won. I wont watch todays game and they should win. Im sorry guys, Im a JINX. LETS GO METS !!!!!
He probably turns to Chipper and asks if he knows how many sons he really has.
Finally!!!! First win in five shots at Shea this year. Lots of Braves and Yankees fans in the Uppers. With alcoholism rampant on all sides—and the Security team protecting the innocent widdle precious children (and adult children) from the horrors of second-hand smoke in the ramp areas, fights and beer-flinging made me feel like Philly may be a nice spot to catch a calm game. In Section 9, one girl in a Mets shirt who was dating a Braves fan was tossed onto another Braves fan after she got some beer and nachos. About 20 people were ejected. But worry not!—the Security team is protecting the precious widdle children from second-hand smoke (and it’s fun looking at the Security area, all littered with the cigarette butts because they’re smoking—and rightfully so—when Shea is closed to the public). In fact, of all five games I’ve attended, the fighting at Shea has been awful. A handful of “Fire Willie” signs. Heilman and Delgado got the usual.
I was at the game yesterday with a HUGE “Fire Willie and cut Carlos Delgrampa” sign. I can’t tell you how overly positive the reactions were out of people. From before the game, tailgating in the parking, waiting in lone outside of shea to enter the stadium and in my section – 11, who were in favor of the sign. I saw thumbs up all day long and people pointing at the sign and cheering.
Secondly, your story about section 9 is completely false. The girl who was dating the braves fan willingly chose to walk down to try to calm down the guy that wanted to fight her boyfriend. She was drunk and slipped down two rows because she was intoxicated nobody “tossed” her down a few rows, please don’t exaggerate. And those idiots deserved to get kicked out, although it was fun chanting “pop your collar” at those 2 Greenwhich born Braves fans.
I still don’t understand why Heilman continues to be thrown out there everyday. Sanchez and Smith have been a fine one-two righty punch, and while I understand you can’t overtax them because of youth/recovery, that doesn’t mean you overtax the guy who’s lead the team in appearances for three straight years and is in the middle of a slump.
I’m in the camp that feels we need to cut Heilman some slack (Willie Randolph being included in that “we”). This guy was one of the most consistent relievers in baseball from 2005-2007. He inhaled middle innings, generally kept the ball in the park, and was a pretty decent bridge to Wagner save September 2007 and now April 2008. But how can we cut the guy some slack when he’s on pace for like, 100 appearances this year?
The fact is though, Heilman isn’t going anywhere. We just need to hold out for Pedro and/or Wise so Sosa can get bumped and there are three other legitimate righties aside from Heilman in the pen.
Actually, Heilman was great last September – 2.04 ERA, .167 BAA. He was the only pitcher on the team (outside of Pedro) who consistently came through down the stretch.
That’s why I refuse to get as down on him as everyone else (I’m concerned, yes – but not ready to write him off). He hit 96 on the gun the other day and his fastball still has incredible movement – so much so that he’s having trouble throwing it for strikes. And as someone mentioned, even in his bad outings, he’s usually been one pitch away from a scoreless inning.
Personally, I think there are several things going on..
- He’s throwing too many changeups. He need to work off the fastball more.
- Keith said the other day that he might be tipping his pitches. I agree. The Braves were sitting on the change like they knew it was coming.
- He needs to throw the slider more. It’ keeps hitters honest because it breaks in the opposite direction of the change. Right now, hitters know that “if it ain’t the fastball, must be the change.”
- I think his confidence is shaky right now.
- Finally, it’s still early. He’s having a terrible stretch right out of the gate, which magnifies everything.
Call me crazy – but I say Heilman will be fine. Come September, he’ll have the same numbers he always does – 80+ appearances, ERA between 3 and 3.5. I just hope the fans keep some semblance of sanity here – because if the situation spirals out of control, all bets are off.
Doesn’t it seem that his problems are mental? He’s got the velocity, sure- but as has already been said, he can’t get out of jams (created by himself or others)…….
Some players aren’t made for the NY stage. I’m afraid Aaron is one of them that needs to go flourish in a smaller market…..
He may be tipping his pitches. His stuff is too good for Major League hitters to be that good against him.
I said before I watched him in slo-mo. He turns his back a little more on his fastball, thus allowing the hitter to see more letters on his fastball as opposed to his change-up.
The other problem he has is related to his location. He uses the fastball off the plate and his change-up in the middle of the plate. As a hitter, all you have to do is wait for a strike and you know its a change-up. He needs to start using his change-up more on the corners and throw some high fastballs above the letters over the middle of the plate.
I agree with all of that. I haven’t noticed the shoulder turn, but I’ll look for it.
He also seems to fall into the same trap some power pitchers do, only in reverse. We’ve all seen a struggling power pitcher trying to throw the fastball harder and harder, when he should actually go with something else, disrupt the hitter’s timing, and then come back with the fastball. It seems like Heilman knows his change is his best pitch so the more he struggles, the more he wants to throw it. But when you throw three in a row, it’s not a change-up any more – it’s just a slow pitch.
I have to blame the catchers for that too (Casanova more so than Schneider), because I don’t see Heilman shaking off pitch after pitch. As a catcher (or pitching coach if Peterson is calling pitches from the bench), your job isn’t to call the pitch the pitcher wants to throw – it’s to call the pitch that will get the hitter out.
Wagner looks as good as he ever has in his career. I know its early, but it is a good sign when your closer is lights out. He has been awesome. I actually felt confident when he came in today. He has actually “re-invented” himself a little bit and he is still throwing upper 90’s.
his success is making me feel a lot more confident about this team when the starters finally get together and start pitching into the 7th inning. between billy and duaner, we could finally be looking at the vaunted “seven inning game” setup.
(which kind of makes you wonder how aaron fits into that, regardless of his recent nightmares)
watching him pitch to that kid at ss who was playing his first game was a pleasure. That kid wanted nothing to do with Wags 99 mph fastball he watched go by to strike him out. The only time he swung at all was on Billy’s slider/offspeed pitch. Good times.
Hearing all the boos are make Texeira not wanna come to NY
yes, instead he will go to the yanks, where the fans boo the greatest player in the game every time he swings and misses.
money doesn’t boo.
Or he could go to a handful of other teams that have the money to pay him and fans do not boo every time someone fails. He has ties to Baltimore who could use him and Angelos has the pockets full of money to make the splash. For me they are a darkhouse in the race for Texeira especially if they make strides in their rebuilding this year.
if “likelihood of being booed” is really cracking the list of factors determining where he will sign, i would pass on him.
(applies to any free agent, really)
You could not be more right.
He’s gonna be a Yankee anyway. People who are going to boo might as well not let his being in the other dugout be the one thing that stops them.
It was nice to see Delgado drive that one. I thought he got it when it came off the bat as it looked like he crushed it. Reminded me of Carlos 2006.
in his defense, the wind really knocked it down.
but at the same time, that ball is gone in 2006. swings like that really show how much he’s lost since then.
The question is, when is Hojo going to point out that foot tap of Degado’s? I mean, thats an easy fix. If you watch, he starts out with an open stance, when he taps the foot, he closes the stance then strides again. As Harold said, that foot tap is killing his timing. We know he opened his stance to get at the inside pitch but it hasn’t worked because of the foot tap. He should try the closed stance again which would more than likely get rid of the foot tap, improving his timing, and he might be able to get at that inside pitch again with a healthy wrist. Hojo’s also got to do something with Reyes leaping at the pitch and bringing all his weight forward before his hands come thru. You see it everytime he pops the ball up so weakly. The weight comes forward, the back leg goes flying out, the hands drop under the ball, weak pop up. Then again Hojo might be working on it and Reyes is just not getting it. Repeat it over and over again Jose, “Let the pitcher come to me. Let the pitcher come to me.”
Carlos is dropping his hands in his hitch.
19 comments after a win? Why do I feel like if this was a loss there’d be at least 119?
to be fair, the weekend knocks it down a bit, but it’s a bit of a peeve to me how this just becomes vent central during losses, and then people disappear after a win.
Well a lot of people who post here went to the game today, and some of us had to compromise to be able to do that on a Saturday by agreeing to do other things after. Some people just weren’t home.
it’s just human nature. losing feels worse than winning feels good.
It’s because everyone can sleep well tonight and not have to think and talk about a bad loss for another night.
Tex was never and is never coming to the Mets, he has stated he wants to go home to BAL and the Yankees will offer more money anyways if he were to go to NYC which he has never stated interest in being in a big market.
We should wish for Nick Johnson next year as he would be a perfect fit….this team does not need another 1B or any player for that matter that hits .280 or less, we already have a power threat that does that in Beltran and we need an RBI machine who hits .300…especially if Reyes never comes back to second half 06 form, which he wont because looking back, that might be the best a player has ever played…
Go Figgy and keep Gustavo around even when one of our real catchers comes back, Casanova is awful
your keep gustavo get rid of casanova makes no sense. comming into today gustavo was 3 for 27 for his career. neither of them are any good.
though i would prefer either of them of defelice or kelly stinnet.
I like the Nick Johnson idea……
Nick Johnson seems to be an injury risk…maybe it’s just a couple of longer injuries though. I think he would be a good fit, but its strange to think of a lineup that would be 1/3 Nats/Expos
isnt the only issue with Nick the fact that his AB’s tend to max out around 300, kind of making him a younger Moises ? If he can reach 500-550 then yes, his contributions should be substantial. I think he is supposed to be a great clubhouse guy in addition to be a professional hitter and fielder..
Well, I even understand the booing of Heilman coming in cause he’s sucked.
What really was unnecessary was the booing of Delgado in the middle of a big rally. And booing him after he hit it well, and just had the wind and Kotsay get to it.
Carlos will snap out of it.
Our expectations are immense right now. I understand the frustrations.
We are playing above .500 and we haven’t even hit the ball this year. I doubt we will slump all year. Once we hit, we will be hard to beat. Give it time.
We’ve given it a year and a half…..no more
Mets fans have been all over this team with booing, myself included. I’m always waiting for the other shoe to drop.
We want this team, therefore these guys to succeed, maybe we should start supporting them a bit more instead of punishing them for last year. Always looking for that guy to take it out on. Last week Delgado, this week Heilman, next week Reyes and on and on.
If the players have put last year behind them, maybe we should try to do the same.
I think all we can expect of them is to play hard!!! I’ll boo if they half ass a play, but from here on in I’m supporting this TEAM!!!!!
LETS GO METS, LETS GO METS LETS GO METS!!!!!!!!!!
in the early going, as surprising as can be, wagner has been the most consistent player on this team – rock solid from day 1
I am getting quite sick of all this early season booing. I was at yesterdays 4-3 win over the Braves, and there were 2 mets fans dressed heads to toes in mets gear. When Scott Schoeneweis came into the game they stood up and booed as loud as they could. When he allowed a base runner, again, they booed as loud as they could. However, eventually Scott got out of the inning allowing 0 runs, and of course, these two “fans”, did not clap or cheer. In fact, they had looks on their faces as they wanted to do more booing, and did not care that Scott saved the Mets at a pinnacle point in the game.
It is getting to the point where there are fans that all they want to do is boo, and don’t care about the outcome of the game. I am as frustrated as every mets fan with the pitching right now, but ENOUGH WITH THE BOOING. This is our team which we need to support, and these pitchers are not going to get out of their early season troubles with the fans getting on them for every baserunner, or every hit they give up.
Well they paid for their ticket, so they can boo if they want. I never boo, but I’m not happy with this team. If people want to express their happiness by booing, that’s their right. Booing Santana is dumb. Booing Schoeneweis who has pitched much better than anyone could have expected is not too smart either. But if people want to pick their spots and boo, there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
Someone who I didn’t personally know said to me yesterday, “If I see someone boo, I’m going to give them an elbow right in their side. That’s not how you get behind our team.”
OK, so that guy will be ejected and maybe even arrested, and the guy who was booing will still be booing because there’s nothing that says he can’t.
My advice to the people who are really sick of the booing…
1. Go to as many games as you can.
2. Cheer as loud as you possibly can.
That’s all you can do.
Damn, I meant if they want to express their unhappiness by booing…
Everyone has the right to boo, the point is that all the boing is not going to help OUR team get through this.
Gotta Believe
Of course it’s not going to help.
Nobody ever said the boo-birds were rocket scientists. :)
Wow, I had a revelation.
The Mets fans have now become an actual part of the team. We are the spirit. We can be Tug McGraw or we can be last year’s collapse. Tug McGraw was “Ya Gotta Believe”. Tug McGraw was not giving up with two down in the 10th inning of game 6 in ‘86. It was about hope.
We have given up hope which was what being a Met fan was all about.
The Mets are willing to move beyond last year. We won’t let them.
We are over .500 right now and there has been some promise shown on this team. We need to stick with them.
Wish I could get to Mets games but living in Alabama it isn’t easy.
For those that can go. Get out your “Ya Gotta Believe” signs. When you feel like booing, shout “Let’s Go Mets” instead. If you hear someone booing, start shouting out “Let’s Go Mets”. It will pump up the players and will pick up this team.
As fans, we need to make this a habit to overcome the harm us fans are doing to this team and its spirit and its repuatation.
Back in the 60s and 70s, that was all this team had. We need to get back to our roots.
The Mets players and front office know we are disappointed. The point has been made already. Don’t make this whole season a season that loses Mets fans for life. We have a good team. We can win it all. We gotta believe. We aren’t going to win 162 games this year. We have played flat this year and are still over .500. Other teams have played great and are behind us in the standing. We are that good. Wait until we go on a hot tear. Until then keep shouting “Let’s Go Mets”.
100% Agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bravo Mingo
We need to get over last year and start “Hoping” for all that can go well with this year.
For those able to attend the games, it starts with you. We as fans need to help get this thing turned around, which means…
“STOP KICKING THE TEAM WHEN ITS ALREADY DOWN”
Lets pick em up. Make the game fun. Otherwise we’ll end up like bitter Philly fans,
You hit the nail right on the head. If you’ve ever read Tug McGraw’s autobiography, you’d know that a big part of the ‘73 team’s success was that they believed in themselves when they came to the park everyday.
We, as the fans, have a hand in the attitude of the team…believe it or not. I can remember going to games in the late 90’s when Shea REALLY got behind its team and supported them regardless of if they were winning or losing. (Remember, even Benitez wasn’t being booed at that point.) Not coincidentally, the Mets had one of the best home-field advantages in baseball during those years. Don’t believe me? Go ahead and check the splits.
Rally the troops. Anyone going to the game when Delgado is up there or Heilman pitches we need to hear…
Lets Go Mets! Lets Go Mets! Lets Go Mets!!!!
Bring home field advantage back and lets take the game back from the Boo birds
agreed
but that had alot to do with underdog mentality that team had.
When your labeled the favorite in the league it changes peoples expectations
hopefully we can get Shea back to 99 and 2000
Great post
I agree. While im not able to go to the games i just fail to see how booing will help the team. If ANYWHERE the mets should feel and play their best at home. Its hard enough to get a hit off hudson or to get a 1-2-3 inning against the brave’s brass w/o expecting boos if they swing and miss or give up a hit. We need to start making shea an atmosphere that is difficult for the OPPOSING team not our own. That is a true met fan. Unfortunately the banwagon fans we have obtained through our success has tainted this and i believe it is affecting our players. I know the whole ” tough mentality for playing in ny” thing but why make it harder than it already has to be. Instead of booing give them a vote of confidence. Mets players get booed on the road, i dont think its fair for them to get booed at home. Completely ridiculous. I understand they are not playing as well as we would like, but booing isnt going to help them play any better. Theres nothing more inspiring i think than to have 50k people cheering for you to succeed. I think that will make a difference idk. Its worth a shot i mean the way we have been going hasnt worked, lets give this a shot.
I think fans should save their booing for when it really matters: couples who don’t kiss on the kiss-cam, people who drop foul balls down into the level below them, and people who get easy trivia questions wrong.
Now *THOSE* are times for booing!
And the wave.
BOO THE #$**%ING WAVE!
Oh yea the wave to . Bring the Apple but leave the cowbell and the WAVE !
The best time to boo is when a thirty year old guy wears a glove
( which I think is against the rules. After you become a teenager I think you need to stop with the glove)
and still doesn’t make the catch on a foul ball !!
Well most of the fans won’t boo a thirty year old wearing a glove, because they know in ten years that person might actually be on the field wearing a glove and PLAYING for the Mets.
it’s also ok to boo fans of the opposing team, and of course Yankees fans. Boo the living hell out of them.
Definitely not everybody criticized the trade….where are all the Milledge people now??? I laughed when people compared it to the Kazmir trade….just ridiculous.
In hindsight, Church for Milledge straight up is a great deal. Couple that with the fact that the team sorely misses Schneider right now behind the plate. I do this deal every day of the week and twice on Sundays
it’s funny, you mock the milledge people for being quiet in one sentence and use the word ‘hindsight’ in the other.
oh, and if you’re ready to claim the deal a no-brainer based on 23 games, then why not declare the mets dead after 23 games.
Well one thing a lot of fans like to do… they don’t like when anyone gets discouraged or says anything negative…
But they have a special way of working the calendar to their advantage.
When the Mets lose, it’s early.
The next day when they win, it’s time to save up for playoff tickets.
yup.
who on here is “saving up for playoff tickets.” This is still the same team as it was 2 days ago, and there’s still a lot of problems, but we are enjoying the win. Do you even like it when they win? If not, there’s a team in Pittsburgh you might love…
Do you know how to read?
I said A LOT OF FANS think that way. I didn’t say I think that way.
I was simply responding to a post about above about “we’re all going to look silly for criticizing the Milledge trade” and pointing out the fact that not everbody did. No mocking to it.
And it wasn’t only two different sentences, but two different ideas altogether….the hindsight part was pure speculation about something that didn’t happen
the Mets fans who boo the Mets when they are over .500 in April with3 of their major players injured are the same kinda jackals who cheer when someone on their fantasy team gets a hit against John Maine or Johan…
You know what it’d be sweet? if people could just express how they feel about the team without being criticized or asked to self-censor. Fans are supposed to be passionate. Some boo when players disappoint them — repeatedly. So what? It’s more distressing that others assume to dictate what the demeanor of Mets fans should be, as if there were one and only one acceptable way to root for your favorite team. I don’t want to be a Met fans if it means joining a bunch of brain-dead, goose-stepping , PC zombies who follow the orders of some self-appointed High Commission on Met Fan Conduct.
Lets Go Mets!!!
Like someone said earlier you paid for a ticket your allowed to do w/e you want. What people are saying are their opinions and why they feel booing is not helping this team. I get frustrated with this teams play on alot of occasions and i use this site to vent them out. I never booed anyone while i lived in ny and went to games at shea no matter how much they sucked. There is no conduct “as a met fan” but as a “fan” you should want the best for your team. You want your team to succeed. Look how well “booing” has helped. All people are saying is lets try rooting for the team instead and get behind them. What do we have to lose i mean the booing tactic really has not worked.
Amen
exactly. We’re not telling people to censor themselves, we’re just pointing out that they’re being idiots and aren’t helping the team. How come fans who want to boo should be allowed to just “express how they feel about the team without being criticized or asked to self-censor,” but people who express that they don’t like it when people boo aren’t allowed to express how they feel about the team without being criticized or asked to self-censor? Hypocrite much?
We may be asking you to goose step, but you’re trying to silence us too, so who’s worse?
“I pledge allegiance to the New York Mets, and to its players, coaches and manager. I pledge that I will not boo, but encourage.. will not jeer, but cheer.. will not give up, but always “believe.” For our team, our orange and blue, always. Let’s Go Mets!” April 27, 2008.
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I’m going to assume you’re being humorously ironic. Assuming anything else is too depressing — and Orwellian.