Mike Nichols

preGame: Mets vs Braves (Game Two)
By Mike Nichols - Apr 26, 2008 11:58 am

The Game:

The Mets (11-11) continue their three-game series against the Braves (12-11) today at Shea Stadium, starting at 1:10 pm EST.

The Lineup:

The Pitchers:

RHP John Maine (1-2, 3.57 ERA) starts for the Mets. Maine earned a loss in his last start versus the Cubs on April 21, surrendering two runs on five hits while striking out six and walking two through six innings pitched. In four career starts versus the Braves, Maine is 1-2 with a 4.84 ERA.RHP Tim Hudson (3-1, 2.93 ERA) takes the hill for the Braves. In his last start versus the Nationals on, Hudson earned a win, allowing one run on 10 hits while striking out three and walking two over 6.2 IP. In his previous 13 career starts against the Mets, Hudson is 8-4 with a 3.68 ERA.

The Notes:

David Wright is 8-for-37 (.216) with 1 hR and 4 RBI versus Hudson in his career.Jose Reyes is batting .218 (12-for-55) with a 1 HR and 6 RBI against right-handed pitchers this season.

How To Catch It:

Today’s game can be seen locally on CW11 and heard locally on WFAN.

The Bleachers:

For a live chat, head over to The Hot Foot Bleachers.

…enjoy, and as always, Let’s Go Mets

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Comment by JAMMQ
2008-04-26 12:02:36

No Church in the two hole? Man, is Delgado killing them.

Comment by LoDuca
2008-04-26 12:46:05

The Mets (regulars) are hitting .266 as a team with a combined 11 HOMERUNS (1.37 each), and 88 runs batted in (11 RBI each). They’ve hit 36 doubles (4.5 each) as a team and have stolen 18 bases (2.25 each).

For a full writeup on the offensive production so far go to:

http://www.metsprospectus.blogspot.com

 
Comment by Jaded1983
2008-04-26 13:08:45

Ok how about some positive thinking here?
1. Church is an excellent defender and has far and away exceeded everyones expectations at the dish
2. Schnieder calls a great game and is also a great defender, i attribute both of pelfreys wins directly to schnieder. pelf clearly has the ability, schnieder brings it out
3. santana. enough said.
4. castillo seems to be coming around
5. everyone knows that wright, reyes, and beltran will not continue their current hitting streak all season
6. Figgy, who else gets really excited to see one of us [fans] pitch for our Mets??
7. Pagan, all though coming back to earth some has been a great and effective member of the team thus far
8. duaner sanchez is back and thus far looking strong
9. wagner looking good in his limited appearances
10. willie finally using show in the correct circumstances
Those are just 10 quick positives to think on, i know there is more. I’m just as frustrated as the rest of you, but for all of our struggles no one else in the division is stellar either. Not that its an excuse, but rather the opportunity for the mets to find their groove and realize their potential is not lost. i’m not going to say its early or anything of that shenanigans since we all know that game #22 is just as important as game #162. but have faith guys, we arent in a hopeless situation like the pirates or orioles, etc. we will be a competator for years to come, how quickly we forget how the team looked just a few short years ago.

That said, LETS GO METS!

Comment by andyglass1
2008-04-26 13:40:20

Sure hope you are correct; have to immediately disagree about #4…. no kid on a high school or weekend team is going to stick around too long if hitting the ball beyond 90 feet is a moral victory. bases loaded and you have to hope a squibber finds it way between the p & nearest defender; gmafb !!!!!!

Frustration imho, stems from the deficiencies that have haunted the team for at least 2 yrs… an excessive dependence on injury prone OLDER players, when it is so apparent that there is an absolute tendency for injuries to increase as a player hits age 35,36,37 …… You have to respect their dedication and hard work in getting back out there and going all out like a 25 yr old, but when it repeatedly fails, dont you have to try and restock ? Luis got 4 yrs guaranteed; would any one out there applaud a guaranteed 2 yr deal to big game el duque ?? how about moises ??? That said, lets win one team !

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Comment by deloid
2008-04-26 15:29:21

Nicely stated Jaded.

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Comment by Phantaroth
2008-04-26 12:07:20

People will whine about this line up, but really

The reason the mets line up isn’t very good is because they don’t have enough good hitters to make it good.

Comment by Gina
2008-04-26 12:26:17

Pretty much. They can’t leave Delgado right behind Beltran or no one will ever pitch to Beltram. So until Alou comes back Church should probably stay similar to this.

Comment by Gina
2008-04-26 12:27:22

Apparently my brain and fingers had two separate ideas. Until Alou comes back Church should be batting 5th.

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Comment by cafuq
2008-04-26 12:14:38

On the bright side, at least the game isn’t on Fox. The game goes slow and the announcers are awful.

 
Comment by Darryl Strawberry
2008-04-26 12:19:09

I hate to say it, but it doesn’t matter who’s playing for us right now. This is the middle of a long losing streak. I wish they would start posting the other teams lineup as well as ours pregame.

Comment by GuaynaboMets
2008-04-26 14:42:38

Wow, WHAT A FAN…it took a two game losing streak to make him a pessimist….thank god the real darryl strawberry didnt give up after two cancer diagnoses….

Comment by anditsouttahere
2008-04-26 14:53:37

they are actually 1-5 over the past 6 games right now so technically its more than just a 2 game losing streak.

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Comment by gipper91375
2008-04-26 12:25:52

It will begin today, maybe tomorrow, perhaps next week but very soon nonetheless, with the diehards in the Upper Deck. The working class fans will start it. The guys who have been coming to Shea since `64 and have never even sniffed the field boxes but have ever been True to the Orange and Blue.

It will swell gently at first. It will seem almost a mild rebuke and a sad protest on the part of this most loyal fanbase that has endured so much over the decades. A protest and a rebuke to the Collapse and to the dismal hangover that has enveloped this franchise ever since.

Slowly but surely it will build like the incoming tide at the beach. Gradually, almost subtly, it will begin rolling down our big and beloved old concrete horseshoe of a stadium that is groaning under the funereal weight of its final year.

But by the 6th or perhaps the 7th inning this afternoon, or the next, or some evening next week, but very soon nonetheless, as the pen surrenders yet more runs, it will be echoing loudly across all levels from the red Upper Deck Reserve seats all the way to the deep blue Metropolitan Box seats on the field level just behind home plate and throughout all the gloriously garish green, blue and bright orange seats in between.

It will reach such a crescendo by late in the game today, or tomorrow, or next week but very soon nonetheless that it will seem like our cherished old stadium will not need wrecking balls, cranes and dump trucks to tear it apart. Nay, the sheer reverberations from the beseeching, almost prayerful, chants of the embittered Shea faithful will threaten to burst the grand old purplish-blue paint and neon light festooned lady at her seams.

In fact, it will be so loud at Shea this afternoon, tomorrow, next week but soon nonetheless that I will almost hear it way out here on the west coast.

There it will be, rustling in the wind through the evergreen trees way out here in Oregon all the way from Flushing Meadows…can’t you hear it? Listen close….shhh!…there it is…..

“Fire Willie!” [clap, clap, clapity-clap]

Comment by trippingac
2008-04-26 12:35:52

Jeez, could you be any more dramatic?

This team is underachieving for sure, but they are not overrated, as many people are saying. There are too many talented individuals on this team for the “overrated” charge to be true.

The great and beautiful thing about baseball is that every day gives you a new chance to turn it all around. Today sounds like a good day to me.

Let’s Go Mets.

Comment by jimyager
2008-04-26 13:03:36

WILLIE MUST GO !! Lets look at Bobby V. The first full season as manager we finished in 3rd. then we clinched the Wild Card and lost in game 6 to the Braves in the NLCS and in his third year we clinched the WC and went all the way to the WS to loose in 5 games to the Yankees. Bobby V. had players like Timo Perez, Todd Pratt, Benny Agbayani, Ricky Henderson, Jay bell and Rey Ordonez. His pitchng staff was centered around Al Leiter and his closer was Benetiz. He also had a revolving third base and the only superstar he had was Mike Piazza. Now look at Willie. He went to game 7 of the NLCS, collapsed like never before and now is playing crap for baseball. He also hassome of the best players to work with, Glavine, Pedro, Santana, Wags as closer. And an outfield that has been centered around Beltran with Wright and Reyes. Clearly Willie has had it better, and yet, cant get it done. I dont know what the manager does behind closed doors, but, whatever Bobby did it worked GREAT and whatever Willie is doing is NOT working.

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Comment by mattygreen
2008-04-26 13:36:20

great post.

 
Comment by rM teM
2008-04-26 15:55:02

We can’t afford Bobby

 
 
 
Comment by MacD81
2008-04-26 12:38:44

I’m not sure how firing Willie gets Reyes on base more, or takes 3 years off Delgado’s age, or keeps Heilman’s pitches in the park, or keeps Wright from going 0-18.

He’s not a great manager, but in my opinion he’s lower on the list of problems with this team than all the things I’ve listed above.

Comment by gipper91375
2008-04-26 12:42:03

It turns the page. and, you cannot summarily get rid of all the players. But, I agree, it would only be a start, not a solution.

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Comment by mr.gee21
2008-04-26 12:57:41

Gipper, that was pretty hilarious.

Totally worth the read just to get to the punchline. Thank you for making me laugh today before I watch this game!

:)

Comment by jimyager
2008-04-26 13:09:47

Somebody has to called out for the collapse and so far it has been nobody and its more of buisness as usual. Make a statement and fire WILLIE!! Put the team on alert and let them know that this will not be acceptable. If they want to see Willie keep his job, start playing up to potential. We need to turn the page and move on and we are not doing that. We cant afford to wait and get into a self loathing funk. After the way 06 and 07 ended we NEED to win and proove it was not a accident in 06 and that 07 was a fluke. The only message we are sending now is that we are not over 07 and that we are not a good team. 500 at best. we will never win this series against the Braves this weekend playing like we are. Face it. Are you gonna waste your time and watch this crap over the weekend? I have better things to do then waste my time watching a team that cant win and wont try. Good lucks guys, your gonna need it.

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Comment by gipper91375
2008-04-26 14:09:46

You’re welcome Mr. Gee. Thanks for taking it the way it was intended..

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Comment by Sasseroni
2008-04-26 12:32:08

Endy in the two hole with his non existent OBP while Church and his .380 bat 5th…….

The team reeled off how many wins in a row with Church batting 2nd? Way to use your head, Willie.

Comment by coke234
2008-04-26 12:42:59

You want Carlos Delgado and his .195/.287/.268 line protecting Beltran?

There is NOBODY that should be batting fifth right now for the Mets except Church.

You can’t have a lineup of…..

Delgado
Easley
Molina
Chavez
Pitcher

and expect to win on a consistent basis.

Wait until Alou gets back. If Church isn’t inserted back into the 2-hole when he comes back, then you have a beef.

Comment by Don Logan
2008-04-26 13:18:44

Castillo will hit 2nd when Alou comes back. Church will hit 6th. Delgado 7th. Or Church 5th still and Alou 6th.

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Comment by coke234
2008-04-26 13:31:37

Well, if Castillo keeps on hitting the way he has lately, then that order wouldn’t even be that bad.

 
 
 
 
Comment by cafuq
2008-04-26 12:34:54

I do not like Willie, but last night was all on the players. One of our biggest rivals and we get TWO HITS!! Willie didnt use Delgado, Heilman, or Sosa, and we still got beaten. Hell, the other manager gets thrown out of the game, their pitcher just about looses it, and we get TWO HITS!! And one of those was by ‘Nova. It is not all Willie. The players suck right now. Except for leaving Slappy in the two hole, Willie did almost everything we wanted, and we got two hits.
I dont know what my point is, but just because Willie sucks, well right now the whole team sucks. And i dont think anyone can change that.

Comment by jimyager
2008-04-26 13:14:47

THAT THE POINT!!! Willie is NOT bringing this team up or helping them play at there potential. He is just set on cruise control. Willie has to make sure that when a rookie pitcher is walking in 3 runs and the bases are loaded we take pitches. We had the guy and let him off the hook. That is Willie and his coaching staff. The Braves waited on Pelf and made him throw strikes, because, they are a good team. Willie is letting the team get into bad habits that are going to be hard to break. Reyes looks like hell at the plate and swinging at everything and not taking pitches. WILLIE sees this and knows it and is letting it happen. Sit them all down and let the bench get some work. If we are going to loose anyways. Run the back-up guys out there and bench the bums.

Comment by twassel
2008-04-26 14:02:02

Um, what are you talking about. They did take pitches. The took three walks. Pagan was called out looking at a third strike. I’m not sure they could have taken any more pitches. They just didn’t hit any.

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Comment by ABSeabra
2008-04-26 12:35:58

Our Mets desperately need a leader. Beltran’s too soft, Wright’s too young, Reyes doesn’t speak English well enough. Willie, this is your job and if you can’t do it I’m sure the chumps in the Bronx will take you back. “FIRE WILLIE DUH, DUH, DUHDUHDUH. FIRE WILLIE”

 
Comment by keystonetom
2008-04-26 12:36:03

Where did Gustavo Molina come from?

 
Comment by ABSeabra
2008-04-26 12:37:16

Are the Mets a cursed franchise, maybe there is a jersey currently buried under Shea?!