Note: Delgado has only Done 2 Curtain Calls

April 27, 2008 at 21:03 pm · 137 comments

by Matthew Cerrone

before people start going wild about Carlos Delgado’s decision to not grant the fan’s request for a curtain call during today’s game, note the following

According to the Associated Press, Delgado, who has hit 432 career home runs, has only accepted two curtain calls during his 16-year career – once following his four-home run game in 2003, and again in 2006 following his 400th career home run.

Delgado, regarding the curtain call, as quoted in the report:

“The way I look at is I hit a solo home run in the seventh inning…I’ve got a great deal of respect for the game.  I don’t think that’s a place for a curtain call.”

…on one hand, it’s his right to accept or decline, and i actually sort of admire his respect for the game and his reasoning…at the same time, he and the fans have a rough relationship going right now, and it would have been nice to see every one shake hands and smile for a moment

{ 137 comments }

Felonious Monk April 27, 2008 at 9:05 pm

Carlos is a classy guy. He doesn’t want to show up the other team. That’s OK in my book. Save the curtain calls for the really special ones.

gomets6091 April 27, 2008 at 9:08 pm

agreed. Good for Delgado. And honestly, even if the reason WAS to stick it to the fans who’ve been booing him, I say good for him. I’m as sick as anyone of his awful hitting over the better part of the last season and the early part of this one, but he doesn’t owe the fans anything.

Mr. Metster April 27, 2008 at 9:27 pm

Double agreed. Carlos is a proud man with real appreciation for the game. Any fan who remembers his performance in the playoffs in 2006 should be willing to give him at least some measure of respect. Unfortunately, some Mets fans have short memories.

Dirtysanchez April 27, 2008 at 9:31 pm

very unfortunate…

ness589 April 27, 2008 at 11:02 pm

It’s hard to remember his 2006 post-season when a) the team lost and b) he was awful all of 2007.

domosnacks5 April 27, 2008 at 11:11 pm

It’s also hard to remember the 2006 post-season when half our fan base arrived 3 months ago with the signing of a certain ace…

Ollie Ollie Oxen Free April 28, 2008 at 8:20 am

I remember the 2006 postseason rather clearly. Delgado hit a huge home run in Game 1 of the NLDS when we looked lifeless, and down 1-0 in the 5th inning about a week after we found out that Pedro was out for the year and a day after El Duque hurt himself jogging.

He also hit a big 3-R HR in Game 2 vs. the Cardinals, until a certain reliever – whose name will not be mentioned (although it rhymes with Puillermo Dota) blew it in the 8th. Oh, and So Taguchi took Wagner deep – real deep.

D-rock April 28, 2008 at 9:13 am

Your right Delgado, doesn’t owe the fans anything. Its very hard to play in N.Y. but it is much harder playing in New York while in a slump.

markcore April 27, 2008 at 10:32 pm

I agree … Knowing his demeanor, he would have a good reason for not taking the curtain call. In my opinion he shouldn’t take one because as great as two homeruns are, they are in one game, and don’t make up for the rest of the season. He needs to do more to earn a curtain call – he seems to agree.

shinjosplints17 April 27, 2008 at 10:52 pm

Not sure if im 100% correct or if someone has said this but on TV it did look as if David Wright held his hands up in front of Delgado and you could read his lips to say: DON’T GO. Which is a far cry from the Beltran-Franco curtain call.

BillyLiberty April 27, 2008 at 11:15 pm

“Save the curtain calls for the really special ones.”

Agreed. Delgado actually had 432 before today, now he has 434 and is tied with Juan Gonzalez for the most home runs ever by a Puerto Rican player. His next will be very special and deserves a curtain call! Even though he’s struggling we need to appreciate what a great career he’s had.

ness589 April 27, 2008 at 11:22 pm

Delgado a classy guy? The very same Delgado who refused to stand for ‘God Bless America’ until he came to the Mets?

Chiefman April 27, 2008 at 11:28 pm

God Bless America is an inspid song. I despie it. Gimme America the Beatiful any day.

And who cares if Delgado or anyone else stands during that pathetic song. They are playing baseball. This is a ridiculous issue that has NOTHING to do with loyalty to the USA.

Boo Delgado for lousy hitting, but gimme a break with that dumb God Bless America crap,

Chiefman April 27, 2008 at 11:30 pm

Pardon my crummy typing. I meant “despise” not “despie” when referring to that dumb song.

ravi3 April 27, 2008 at 11:29 pm

Yes he didn’t stand…as a way of protesting U.S. military testing around Puerto Rico

ness589 April 27, 2008 at 11:45 pm

I’m of the belief that athletes should be mum about their political beliefs until after they’ve retired.

AlreadyMissShea April 28, 2008 at 12:03 am

I’m of the belief that the National Anthem to start the game is perfect. It’s worked for a long, long time. What’s the point of God Bless America in the 7th inning? Especially since they pick and choose when they play it. If it really meant anything, wouldn’t they play it every game?

They don’t.

And anyway, it’s NOT our National Anthem.

gomets6091 April 28, 2008 at 4:23 am

though I disagree with Delgado politically, I’m strongly of the belief that nobody has a right to tell anyone to be mum about their political beliefs, ever.

Unless you’re talking to Rosie O’Donnell.

Mingo April 28, 2008 at 7:24 am

Keep your jackboot philosophy to yourself. Carlos had every right to express his unsatisfaction with our choice to go to Iraq. Everyone does. He had the balls to do it to the world. That is courage.

Peter April 28, 2008 at 8:37 am

That isn’t what he was protesting. He was protesting the US Navy’s use of Vieques (sp) island for target practice.

Surprisingly, when the Navy acquiesced and left the island, the people are now up in arms about the blow to their economy. Be careful what you wish for . . .

Felonious Monk April 28, 2008 at 10:46 am

I’m actually disappointed if he does stand for “God Bless America”. Let everyone’s conscience be his guide, but I would not stand for the national anthem either. It used to be only in Fascist countries where religion and patriotism were so conflated and people were required to demonstrate their patriotism at things as inocuous as sporting events!

dykstraw April 27, 2008 at 9:09 pm

this is such a nothing story. if anything carlos probably doesn’t feel good enough about his season to start taking curtain calls.

Matt Cerrone April 27, 2008 at 9:11 pm

It’s especially a nothing-story when put in to the bigger context of his career, which I’m glad the AP took time to do.

barrywep April 27, 2008 at 9:16 pm

If I managed the Mets…
I would have started Heilman today for two innings so he could pitch without pressure and then brought in Figueroa, who can apparently only go twice through a batting order. Other starters would be unhappy with such an arrangement but it makes sense for Figgy. His future with the Mets (if he has one) is in the bullpen.

Dirtysanchez April 27, 2008 at 9:24 pm

i wouldnt mind seeing figgy as our 5th starter next year

Deadpanwalking April 27, 2008 at 9:35 pm

I would have thought I was the most stoned person on metsblog.com. Apparently I’m not.

Andrew April 27, 2008 at 9:59 pm

Hahahahahahah. +1

gomets019 April 28, 2008 at 12:11 am

I love it. I can’t disagree with you there. I’d have given Heilman a 2 inning start today in a heartbeat if I was Mets Manager too! Only I’d have him make his start while riding on top of a Unicorn! Its magical powers couldn’t help but increase his confidence and his pitches would really sink from so far up. It’s f*#cking brilliant. Thanks Barrywep. Keep the wisdom flowing

dykstraw April 27, 2008 at 9:37 pm

i wasn’t calling out your post at all. more like, bracing for the firestorm of BS we’ll hear about it tomorrow. sorry if that came off the wrong way.

Danny1986 April 27, 2008 at 10:31 pm

Well then, guess what?

Talking about it takes focus away from positive things….like perhaps A WINNING STRAK. We have a bad team coming in to town with a boat load of lefties for us to feast on….so how about develpoping a winning attitude with a sweep before heading West?

The best thing we all can do is stop talking about this Delgado curtain call BS. I honestly believe it would be favorable to Delgado, as well as the entire team.

That would include those that control the topics and subject matter of this blog. So Matt, please make this the last post on the particular topic. I beg you.

rd April 28, 2008 at 9:57 am

It’s more about the fans attempting to reconcile with him, and delgado in his typical arrogant fashion dismissing the ones who pay his 16 million dollar salary….

LionelHutz April 27, 2008 at 10:29 pm

EXACTLY!!!

As far as having a long term memory….
I remember what Delgado did last year(nothing)

2006 Playoffs eh? I have said it many times, mets fan need to abandon their defeatist attitude

LionelHutz April 27, 2008 at 10:42 pm

BTW my” exactly” was directed at the original comment by Dykstraw about it being a non story and probably due to him still having a sh*t season, for some reason it ended up down here

KinersKornerman April 27, 2008 at 9:15 pm

His reason is solid. He respects the game. The fans should give him a pass on this one and cheer him during the next at-bat.

Dirtysanchez April 27, 2008 at 9:23 pm

yea i agree but remember like beltran a few years ago. He reluctantly came out for a curtain call even for a moment. Im glad matt put it into perspective that he has not done many curtain calls so hopefully the fans wont continue to boo him because he did not give them a curtian call. Good for delgado hope he can keep it up we are going to need him

MeesesGlokmah April 27, 2008 at 9:25 pm

I never knew a curtain call was so important. I always thought it was something people did to gloat. Then again, I’ve really only gotten into baseball the past year, so I’m still learning about these kind of things. I guess you really do learn something new everyday.

darkstar73 April 27, 2008 at 9:32 pm

why do fans who have been booing every misque from this team mercilessly for the entire season deserve a curtain call in the first place? All of a sudden a player who has been playing badly (despite trying to get hits) has a good game and everything’s “ok” again. Booing affects players, who likes to get booed by the people who are supposed to support the team you’re on? Obviously they’re not going to say it does, but it does, which makes fans of a team booing this much, this early, just kind of ridiculous. If it becomes clear this team is not going to compete, is just going through the motions, and generally is an overpaid failure, sure, go ahead and boo. But I’m just not seeing that yet, especially after taking 2 of 3 from the Braves. Booing doesn’t help people, it just doesn’t.

mr_met April 27, 2008 at 9:48 pm

amen, well said. i mean, why boo your own guys? like booing them would make them perform better. the ridiculous and unreasonable boos only belong to the bronx

big shea April 27, 2008 at 10:07 pm

Believe me, the only thing worse than getting booed is indifference. And Carlos certainly got a taste of that in Florida.

However, I do agree that he didn’t need to come out for a crtain call today. If I was there I wouldn’t have pushed for one. Curtain calls are for when guys are on fire (not just having a random good day while batting below the Mendoza line) and for big spots in the game. I’m sure he thought neither he nor the fans deserved it.

xmulderx April 27, 2008 at 9:36 pm

There seems to be a possible storyline starting to build that David Wright was caught telling Delgado not to go out and to F the fans. Did anyone witness this on the air ? i was going back n forth with the Rangers/Penguins at that point. I have heard it mentioned by a couple of callers now. It seems to be on Mets.com forum but i don’t trust what is said there. Can someone shed some light on this ?

metsfan119 April 27, 2008 at 9:39 pm

How would anyone know?

VegasMet April 27, 2008 at 9:49 pm

You have come to MetsBlog and started this “possible storyline.” It’s a disgusting direction to take this non-incident and I would hope (but barely believe) that it ends here.

As to Carlos and the curtain-call, I thought when I watched it that his feeling should have been, ” I’m just, at least for today, doing what I am paid to do, and am expected to do” For that, a curtain-call is not appropriate.

While I am a fan of Darling and Cohen, I thought their discussion afterwards was completely mis-guided.Ron suggesting that this was surely a response by Delgado to the booing fans was both incorrect, and fuel for these type of posts.

Can we just celebrate that Delgado had a great day at the plate, and hope that he might have turned a corner in his struggles to re-discover his swing ?

MEX April 27, 2008 at 10:00 pm

Re Darling and Cohen, agreed. I was watching the game and just yelling at the screen for Cohen to shut up about Delgado ignoring the curtain call. I didn’t know how rare it is for Delgado to take a curtain call which certainly makes his decision all the more admirable, but Cohen was creating a story there. Delgado decided not to heed the curtain call for whatever reason, but Cohen’s harping on about it was turning it into a big deal where it’s Delgado vs. the Fans. One of Cohen’s rare missteps – it was so Joe Buck of him.

dykstraw April 27, 2008 at 10:05 pm

it looks to me like DW told him not to go out, but i didn’t see him say anything that looked like “f*** the fans”

Danny1986 April 27, 2008 at 10:35 pm

or you can get a life……

Felonious Monk April 28, 2008 at 10:51 am

I noticed it too. It was just not a good time in the game for a curtain call. If it was a go-ahead run or something important, then no harm, but it would have just been insulting to Atlanta to do it then, and why get your opponent riled up and give them another reason to try to come from behind to beat you? They needed the win yesterday more than they needed heat with the Braves.

mr_met April 27, 2008 at 9:42 pm

carlos, ignor them unclassy yankees-fan-type quickfix fans who change their opinions from ab to ab like mountain weather. i honestly thought what you did to heilman yesterday was one of the greatest things i’ve seen in sports, and i support your decision today not to come out to answer the curtain call. congrats on the 2 homers today, and hope today is your turning point!

DWmancrush April 27, 2008 at 10:35 pm

Was at the NFL Draft yesterday and missed the game, what did Delgado do to Heilman?

KinersKornerman April 27, 2008 at 11:16 pm

He booed him.

dykstraw April 27, 2008 at 11:27 pm

he crazy glued him to the bullpen pine

xmulderx April 27, 2008 at 9:44 pm

My only guess is someone was reading lips on tv. But i have no idea.. I wish i had tivo the game today to look for myself. Apparently there is video of Wright pushing Delgado back and saying something to him. But until i see it myself i am taking it with a big grain of salt.

LGNYM April 27, 2008 at 10:31 pm

I definitely don’t think there is video of Wright pushing Delgado back. During their convo, Wright was sitting on the bench and Delgado was standing at the bat rack. I am not a lip reader, but I didn’t see any f-bombs dropped or anything like that and Wright didn’t touch Delgado. The only thing I could pick up was him putting his hands up saying something along the lines of “No, don’t”. Whether he was saying don’t go out, don’t snub them, don’t ask me, or whether it was something completely irrelevant to the curtain call thing, I have no idea. But the stories of him holding Delgado back and whatnot are completely untrue.

AlreadyMissShea April 27, 2008 at 10:38 pm

For all we know he could have been saying “Now don’t ever tell me you’re not the same guy again” or something like that. It’s wrong to assume it had anything to do with the fans. It could have been about the pitch, the HR, a confidence thing, a personal thing, etc.

I never thought there would be this much drama over something like a curtain call when people should be talking about the Mets beating Hudson and Smoltz. I mean, Bobby Cox lines these two up against them EVERY SINGLE SERIES, and they both LOST.

And that’s not the story of the night?

gomets6091 April 27, 2008 at 11:30 pm

why would we be happy about a win when there’s a reason to criticize the team, and especially Delgado? Come on man, think!

xmulderx April 27, 2008 at 9:56 pm

I didn’t come to Metsblog to do anything but ask the same question i asked where i post on a daily basis which is the mets board at scout. I simply am interested in finding out what is and is not true. End of Story! i will drop it.

big shea April 27, 2008 at 10:13 pm

Seriously, why would a guy with the career he’s had come out for a curtain call. He came into the day hitting under .200 and with just one home run. Do you really think he was that proud of himself that he hit two solo home runs. I really don’t think it had anything to do with him being upset with the fans. It’s just that he probably didn’t feel like he should take a bow for something that in the scope of what he’s done in his career was so minor.

And anyone who thinks what happened with the curtain call today has anything to do with him getting booed going forward is misguided. If he starts to get hot, he won’t get booed. If he goes into another 0-25 and continues making lazy plays in the field, he will.

casey s. April 27, 2008 at 10:19 pm

the thing is, if he continues to hit like he did today, no one will care if he takes curtain calls or sits on his hands. if fans want to be mad at the slugger we so desperately need at the moment he seems to have found something, then they are no real fans at all.

ness589 April 27, 2008 at 10:19 pm

He should have done the curtain call. Yes, it’s a nice reason to respect the game. However, the guy already has few, if any, fans left. It would have taken the criticisms of the fans and media off him for at least a little while. However, it’s just a can of worms he’s gonna have to deal with now.

Besides, does anyone remember Kelly Johnson doing a curtain call after his grand slam (when the Braves were already winning) in that Fox game couple weeks ago?

KinersKornerman April 27, 2008 at 10:37 pm

So you think it’s more important to “take the criticisms of the fans and media off him” than to “respect the game”

Dude, you got that really backwards.

dykstraw April 27, 2008 at 10:49 pm

he’s a grown man and can do whatever he likes. but he shouldn’t be surprised that people will question the choice that he made.

like i said though, i don’t care either way. if he hits like this everyday he can throw bricks through my windows and i’d still be smiling.

Another Matt April 28, 2008 at 12:30 pm

As this thread is ample proof, Delgado’s going to get criticized whatever he does.

If he took the curtain call, there’d no doubt be an uproar that he dared take a curtain call while hitting below the mendoza line after only two solo shots.

At least this way he’s stayed true to himself, rather than going against his own principles in addition to suffering an inevitable storm of criticism.

ness589 April 27, 2008 at 10:54 pm

How is it disrespecting the game by taking a curtain call? Would anyone have looked down on it?

darkstar73 April 27, 2008 at 11:01 pm

i don’t know, maybe its just me, but curtain calls for meaningless April HRs are just unneeded and take away from what a curtain call should be for.

KinersKornerman April 27, 2008 at 11:05 pm

frankly, it’s about doing your work, and not calling unwarrented attention to yourself, ESPECIALLY in situations that do not call for it, such as hitting a solo home run in the 7th inning.

Delgado is smart enough to know that this game was not over yet, and a curtain call was not appropriate at that juncture. Good for him.

I wish some more fans were that smart.

euchreking April 28, 2008 at 9:00 am

And it’s too bad that a sprinkling of knuckleheads who boo with abandon (like it’s part of the price of admission) gets so much attention. I hope the team understands that most of us are not in that crowd. I’ve always told my 11 year old that we do not boo our own team! I understand the frustration after last year’s collapse. I do. But this is a different year, and we offer our team no support and no margin for error when the early booing starts. Our team will begin to look forward to playing on the road more than they do their home field. How nice…

stemog1 April 27, 2008 at 10:27 pm

Delgado owes the fans nothing. They’re the ones who want it both ways. They want to slam him when he’s struggling and cheer the heck out of him for one good game. Most fans, not just Met fans, are so fickle, it’s just that Met fans go to extremes with the booing. I’m a diehard and have often criticized players for their play on a particular play, but I don’t want their head for it. It’s the equivalent of me punching my best friend in the face today and tomorrow inviting him over for a cookout like nothing ever happened. Retards!

J0eSmiTh April 27, 2008 at 10:29 pm

i bet 90% of all the people who just posted on this topic bashing people for booing delgado, booed him during this streak.

KinersKornerman April 27, 2008 at 10:35 pm

no disrespect, but you would lose that bet.

There are better people here than you think.

AlreadyMissShea April 27, 2008 at 10:42 pm

Exactly!

And still, a part of me thinks another reason he didn’t come out is because he knows he’ll be booed again tomorrow in his first at bat.

But I agree, people here are better than that. One kid posted that he loves to go to every game and boo Delgado, and he didn’t find a single ally here.

At the end of the day, we’re all still Mets fans.

gomets019 April 28, 2008 at 12:22 am

Very well said. It doesn’t seem like a curtain call moment at all. It probably surpised Delgado as much as anyone. The question isn’t why he didn’t answer it, but why was there demand for it in the first place.

dave27 April 27, 2008 at 10:34 pm

On a scale of 1 to 10, how much bigger of a deal with Fat Man and Dog and Michael Kay make about this tomorrow?

I say Kay, 14…M&MD 22.

Danny1986 April 27, 2008 at 10:48 pm

very good prediction.

but you know what?….Since it has been widely reported that Delgado has responded to only 2 curtain calls in his career, and since fat man and lap dog usually read the paper during their show, I bet at least one of them picks up on this and diffuses the blow-up. And since Mike is the lesser idiot of the two, my money is on him to be more reasonable than we would expect.

However, I would otherwise guarantee them both going nuts over this if the 2 career curtain calls tid-bit was not common knowledge.

AlreadyMissShea April 27, 2008 at 10:49 pm

Dog will say something like “Bad job by the Met fans. Lo Duca… I mean Delgado came up in a big spot and he hits a home run. So for the first time, the Met fan doesn’t kill Beltran… I mean Delgado. And he’s supposed to be in love with the Met fan? Terrible job. This is not a throwaway player like Andy Chavez who the Met fan loves! This is CARLOS BELT… DELGADO!”

KinersKornerman April 27, 2008 at 11:01 pm

hahahahah…nice job there.

LGNYM April 27, 2008 at 11:22 pm

Hahaha,…. good stuff. Probably pretty accurate too. Though I could also see him saying “Bad job by Delgado” followed by some incoherent babble and then a “say something funny Mike”

ghobot April 27, 2008 at 11:19 pm

hahah i cant believe people are talking about this.

they will talk about it CONSTANTLY. they have NOTHING to talk about. NOTHING. man, i kinda hate how the sports press makes itself seem important yet, discusses ad infinitum stupid topics like this.

and every idiot in the world is going to call in and give their opinion and when someone with any reason says “guys give this a rest, its a non issue” the host will go, HEY WE ARENT THE ONES CALLING IN! ITS ON THE BOARD…stupid people

big shea April 27, 2008 at 10:46 pm

To me, this is so simple. Curtain call or no curtain call won’t affect his relationship with the fans in the near future. If he starts to get hot and not make mental errors in the field, the fans will give it a rest. If he continues his light, unproductive hitting (aka popping out to third on the first pitch with one out and RISP) they will continue to boo. There is much more to it than what happened today.

I might be in the minority, but it didn’t affect me one way or the other that he chose not to take the curtain call. On the other hand, I didn’t think him hitting two random solo home runs was that big a deal either.

cable57 April 27, 2008 at 10:59 pm

“delgado owes the fans nothing”. i completely disagree. he works for the fans and owes them everything. he hasn’t done curtain calls in his career? well as gary cohen has pointed out, it’s time for him to learn a lot of new things during his decline. if he doesn’t want to make an effort for the fans, he can take his $16 million salary and he won’t be missed, in my opinion. this might be a big of a TV created issue but it really ticked me off. i’ve been a plan holder since ‘98 and i’ve never booed him and never would. but when the fans call for a curtain call, unless the team is losing, do it or retire and write your memoir. you can take that pitchers’ book with you for material.

gomets6091 April 27, 2008 at 11:34 pm

he works for Fred Wilpon, not for the fans. None of us are signing his paychecks.

Another Matt April 28, 2008 at 12:35 pm

He made his effort for the fans when he hit two homeruns and fielded his position pretty well.

Pointless curtain calls are not what anyone gets paid for.

pedro4545 April 27, 2008 at 11:07 pm

I’ve got an idea….How about Metsblog readers pick out a game sometime in the next couple weeks, and we all buy tickets and go with signs that say something like “Stop the booing”….or “real fans don’t boo their team”…..If we get enough people to participate maybe we can get the point across to all the idiot Mets fans or at least show the team that most of us are always supporting them.

dykstraw April 27, 2008 at 11:15 pm

man i would boo you if i saw that sign

big shea April 27, 2008 at 11:20 pm

ha! nice one.

ghobot April 27, 2008 at 11:21 pm

i am definitely going to make that sign. and i hope dykstraw finds me.

Mex_17 April 27, 2008 at 11:24 pm

I think wearing a frilly dress and smart hat would get the same point across as your “real fans don’t boo their team” sign.

dykstraw April 27, 2008 at 11:29 pm

frilly dress and smart hat only acceptable as part of “church lady” costume

ghobot April 27, 2008 at 11:30 pm

noted. i will be wearing the frilly dress and smart hat.

metsfansberealistic April 27, 2008 at 11:21 pm

Mets fans who have been booing Delgado and Heilman this year, and Beltran years ago, aren’t Mets fans

not sure what they are

Yankee fans have more class

and as a Met fan since 1968, that’s not easy to say

LGNYM April 27, 2008 at 11:26 pm

Our fans have been pretty dreadful. But the Yankee fans aren’t any better. They booed A-Rod who even in his worst year was better than Captain Jeter. At least Beltran and Delgado were doing legitimately bad by most players standards during the time they were getting booed.

metsfan119 April 27, 2008 at 11:40 pm

I just saw the replay everyone was talking about with Wright. I hate to say it, and I’m always skeptical about these kind of rumors, but definitely looked like he was imploring Delgado not to go out.

dykstraw April 27, 2008 at 11:42 pm

clearly, i think. but i don’t think he said anything about the fans. at least if he did i can’t make it out and i doubt anyone else could.

metsfan119 April 27, 2008 at 11:48 pm

Yeah, it looked more like “NO NO Don’t give them the satisfaction!” type of thing. I doubt he said “F the fans.”

dykstraw April 27, 2008 at 11:41 pm

THIS WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED IF WE STILL HAD JULIO FRANCO!

metsfan119 April 27, 2008 at 11:49 pm

He should’ve just done it, now this thing with the fans is going to fester. It was a shortsighted move on his part.

Another Matt April 28, 2008 at 12:39 pm

Wow… you really think there’s a single fan who’s going to boo his next out who’d have even reduced the volume on that boo if he’d taken the curtain call?

Time for a reality check here.

LGNYM April 27, 2008 at 11:49 pm

And that goodness for that!

KinersKornerman April 27, 2008 at 11:51 pm

Forget Julio Franco…. now we got Guisseppe Franco

Who has time for all those curtain calls?

dykstraw April 28, 2008 at 12:15 am

stop hiding your thinning hair under these caps!

Bruce Boisclair April 27, 2008 at 11:57 pm

Mike Francessa just made a big deal of this on his Sunday night show on Ch. 4. I think he’s off. Delgado doesn’t do very many of these. I think the fans were great for cheering him, and I hope they continue to. If he hits a grand slam or something big, then he’ll come out…

bringtheapple...leavethecowbell April 28, 2008 at 12:04 am

Yea , Fat Man made it seem like a big deal. I say good for Carlos. Beltran should’ve done the same.

KinersKornerman April 28, 2008 at 12:36 am

Fat man needs to read the box scores while nibbling on his McNuggets. Solo home run in the 7th inning. With our bullpen in a 6-3 game? Thank God Carlos is smart enough to know the score. No way is that the time for a curtain call.

Ollie Ollie Oxen Free April 28, 2008 at 8:26 am

First off, couldn’t agree more with your name. Cowbellman has to go. Cheap rip off of Freddy Sez and not nearly as cool. I think I would get a new apple to go with our green stadium… Granny Smith maybe?

Couldn’t agree with you more. Delgado had no obligation to go out and give the fans what they wanted. The game wasn’t out of reach. I think either way, it was good to see some good feelings coming out of the stadium. People were actually smiling which is a good thing.

altru426 April 28, 2008 at 12:11 am

WHO CARES AS LONG AS HE KEEPS HITTING…who cares about the stupid curtain calls? i care if he goes out tomorrow night and goes 2-4 with an rbi or something

and if wright told him no don’t go out there, whatever, fine, to be honest, i don’t think he should have, he’s right, he isn’t paid 16 million this year to take bows, he’s paid to hit, so…it’s simple, i hope he keeps on hitting, and there is no way wright said anything like “f*** the fans”…someone posted something before saying what if he said like “now don’t ever tell me you are not the same guy” or something like that, none of us our in the dugout, we don’t know, so let’s stop worrying about it…

it all comes down to the performance on the field, and the last 2 days they have looked like they have had some passion and intensity and today and yesterday were good signs to take it to the braves top 2 pitchers, so let’s keep it up!

LET’S GO METS

Prismo April 28, 2008 at 12:13 am

Unbelievable.
The Mets having a seemingly break-out game, where they hit three home runs, including two by an unlikely source in Carlos Delgado.
But the new Mets fans base still finds things to complain about in Delgado not giving a curtain call (which is his right) and Wright possibly telling him not to.

I hate these whiny-baby fans.

dykstraw April 28, 2008 at 12:16 am

whining about whining

metawhining

KinersKornerman April 28, 2008 at 12:28 am

whining about whining about whining. Uberwhining.

Ceetar April 28, 2008 at 12:19 am

If he accepts the curtain call after hitting the walk off home run Brandon Webb in the final game of the NLCS, thats enough for me.

dykstraw April 28, 2008 at 12:24 am

i don’t think a discrete curtain call would be possible then.

KinersKornerman April 28, 2008 at 12:33 am

Like the way you think, but it would more likely be against Brandon Lyon, the DBacks closer. Either way, sign me up.

D-Day April 28, 2008 at 1:04 am

honestly this booing thing has gotta stop. its not helping anything and killing the atmosphere at the home games. i know the fans are frustrated but dont you think the players are frustrated when theyre struggling too. arent true fans supposed to support theyre team when there down as well as up. i mean johan is our new ace and we booed him in his first start ever at shea, thats RIDICULOUS!!!! you think thats the memory he wanted form his first home experience!!! sad. the giants had a bad home record but won almost every game on the road. last year the mets were the only nl team to have a better home record than road. sense a trend. mabe its because NY fans have just become angry, bitter and they arent fun to play infront of anymore. be true fans and show these guys some love and they will want to play harder, not just for themselves but for US!!!!! they will want to represent us and the city of NY with pride. now common mets fans, lets support our team wire to wire no matter what, LETS GO METS!!!!!

D-Day April 28, 2008 at 1:06 am

sorry i meant last year the mets had a better road record than home,

gozer April 28, 2008 at 3:18 am

it should also be noted that gary and ron chose to make a HUGE deal out of this during the telecast, spending an inning and a half discussing it, and even cutting to a camera shot of the booth to hear darling’s take. unnecessary and silly, in my book. bad job sny.

ChodeMcPherson April 28, 2008 at 7:13 am

Okay, so this isn’t a Mets-related comment, but I gotta say, being that Ghostbusters is my favorite movie of all time……My hat’s off to your name.

“Nimble little minx, isn’t she?”

ryno April 28, 2008 at 6:28 am

Take the curtain call.

Then it wouldn’t be a story.

Mingo April 28, 2008 at 7:37 am

Some guys are Walter Payton and some guys are Deion Sanders.
Payton realized after he scored a touchdown that it was doing his job. Sanders started celebrating publicly before he hit the end zone.
Some guys are showboats. Some guys know that doing their job is just that.
Kudos to Carlos for not being a showboat. He has class. To try to make him something else is stupid. If his style is Joe Dimaggio, good for him.

iluvbuckner April 28, 2008 at 7:44 am

WHO! CARES! He was smiling. He was hitting. Doesn’t matter whether he comes out or not. I hate this town for harping on stupid [stuff].

Glad to know I was there for his 400th vs. STL in ‘06 (on my birthday no less). I’ve seen 50% of his curtain calls!

johnfromflushing April 28, 2008 at 8:01 am

not a showboat <<<<<<< ? o’really………

joe dimaggio..did the corriagraphed handshakes complete with the” lean back dance ” on the field too…..????

Bulls**t !!!!! ya cant pick and choose when ya want to be a classy guy…. and when your a reggaethon dancer on the field …… sorry …

johnfromflushing April 28, 2008 at 8:08 am

give the , money paying customers a wave , for finally doing your job…… when your far from classy , protesting on the field, and 2 years worth of riddiculous dances and handshakes ON THE FIELD….

the fans deserve a wave for watching him kick the ball all over the field for years and watching him BORE himself, and make disattached statement one after another……

he’s lucky they wanted a curtain call…

Ollie Ollie Oxen Free April 28, 2008 at 8:33 am

I think you’re a little over the top here. Just my opinion here.

Maybe he is lucky they wanted a curtain call. But if you looked at him after the game, he was genuinely puzzled that it was a story. I think he deserves a break here and the fans should cheer him in his next at bat tonight. May need a little kick in the a$$ to get going.

johnfromflushing April 28, 2008 at 9:01 am

probably not as puzzled as me to hear him with his class and respect for the game comments….

when his team go’s on historic collapse cause he’s to bored to go hard every day…..

when he literally throws and kicks the ball all over the field … asked if he was dissappionted or upset and says “about what “?…

and does the most obnoxiuos dances and handshakes on the field….after every meaningless hr he hits….

Ollie Ollie Oxen Free April 28, 2008 at 9:54 am

The bored comments were wrong, however he didn’t say he was too bored to play hard. Everyone was looking for answers last year as to why they pretty much sucked for the last few months and he gave his thoughts. He was wrong.

Throwing and kicking the ball all over the field…he never was, nor has he claimed to be a former gold glove winner. We tolerate his defense because of his bat….at least we used to.

Obnoxious dances and handshakes were done when Shea was a fun place to go to, before you moved here from Philly and looked for things to boo.

Another Matt April 28, 2008 at 12:47 pm

It’s utterly rediculous to suggest that the Collapse was down to Delgado’s play.

He hit .321/.383/.566 in September.

Mingo April 28, 2008 at 8:17 am

Gee, I wonder how some people are Mets fans at all. They hate everything about this team.
Players don’t owe anything to us. They want to win. He did his job yesterday. That is all.
This wasn’t the Pirates they were playing. They don’t need to fire up the Braves. Wise choice by Delgado.

The most sickening thing about this is that this was a non-story that the press has created. Why? For ratings. They have a story that they want to make bigger. It sells papers. It tunes idiots in to the news programs. This is a Britney Spears paparazzi chase if anything. It is a non-story that the press is trying to drum up. It is nothing. Any idiot who buys in to this is just that. An idiot. Use your brains a little Mets fans. Stop letting the media run this ship. Be a fan, not a pawn.

johnfromflushing April 28, 2008 at 8:21 am

i do agree delgaddo should NOT have given a curtain call….. to me ,he dosnt deserve it…….

but the too classy angle is a stretch ….. when your dancin like a clown on the field……

also … i dont fall in love with over paid millionares who most likely will wear a few jersey’s in thier carreers……. i’m a met fan , i love the mets , and winning….. period…..

rantman888 April 28, 2008 at 8:38 am

I don’t think it’s that big of a deal but it would have been nice to see. Think of how it might have been if Beltran didn’t come out a few years ago. He probably should have come out but I won’t hold it against him. He just needs to hit, that’s all that matters.

johnfromflushing April 28, 2008 at 8:54 am

right on…… hit….. that is all the matters………

but please comparing this guys class to joe d is hillarious……

lean waaaaaay back carlos……………….

SenorMet April 28, 2008 at 8:58 am

I have no problem with Delgado refusing the call, nor with Wright telling him not to go. The booing at Shea has gotten out of hand this year, and I suspect most of the fans doing it are of the fairweather variety. I know most fans – myself included – are still really ticked about how last season ended, but booing this team mercilessly is not going to change what happened. I was ripping on Delgado earlier in the season about his lack of production (and I’m not convinced one 2 HR day is going to change his declining offensive numbers), but I certainly don’t think he deserves to be booed the way he has been.

The team clearly is not happy with the reception they have been getting at home thus far this season. I know Met fans don’t have much patience after last season, but it must be getting bad if even D Wright is telling players not to take curtain calls. It would be nice if the Mets could actaully feel like they have a supportive crowd and home field advantage when they play at Shea.

johnfromflushing April 28, 2008 at 9:03 am

and the fans are cleary not happy with all the great play they’ve been treated to at HOME…..

johnfromflushing April 28, 2008 at 9:05 am

when your so good (but you stink ) and you bore yourself…. ya deserve every single boo ya got coming…….

until you stop boring yourself and perform….

therealsince86 April 28, 2008 at 9:22 am

What a horrible time for a curtain call anyway. Trying to get back on track, playing your rival, in the 7th inning only up 6-3. You have a chance to win the series and carry mommentum into the next. Why take a chance to give the Braves any extra motivation to win. It was not the 9th inning it was the 7th and we have seen our pen time and time again not hold a 3 run lead.

Second, Delgado does not owe the fans anything. The fans pay to see a baseball game, they are not guarnteed anything else. Not a win, homerun, or even a competitive team. We all want them to do well but to make a fuss over someone who is booed at home not wanting to make his third curtain call in his career after close to 500 career HR. Any fan that has an issue with that is just fooling themselves. Delgado owes nothing to any fan and does not have to prove himself to any fan either. Get a life.

johnfromflushing April 28, 2008 at 9:26 am

sorry but sports is all about proving yourself…… everytime you lace em up….. everytime…

Ollie Ollie Oxen Free April 28, 2008 at 9:59 am

And expecting success 9 times out of 10 as a fan is your right too. Doesn’t mean you’re going to get it.

To me, Delgado being booed is about as senseless as Kaz Matsui being booed. Matsui always gave his all. He just wasn’t a very good baseball player. I genuinely think that Delgado is just lost right now. He isn’t used to this, so it may take time to break out. It also may never happen again for him.

Think we need to encourage him through it, rather than kick him while he is down. The guy is clearly frustrated with himself. We should boo people who don’t care (Bonilla), light firecrackers (Vince Coleman), and spray bleach at reporters (Saberhagen). Other than that, boo if you want, but it doesn’t help. Go back to Philly.

cyclone April 28, 2008 at 10:09 am

Man, get a life and stop taking sports so seriously…….

therealsince86 April 28, 2008 at 10:38 am

It’s not about proving yourself to the fans. The only people he has to prove himself to are the players and managemt

johnfromflushing April 28, 2008 at 10:42 am

of course your proving yourself to the paying customers….. i guess you stayed away back when shea was more than half empty every night………

ya bet your ass they have something to prove to the fans…. no fans …. no money…

johnfromflushing April 28, 2008 at 10:46 am

sayin your so good you BORE yourself.. seems a bit non caring ……no ????

johnfromflushing April 28, 2008 at 10:47 am

as an islanders fan …….. i’ll tell ya ….. no fans … no building …no fans no top line players……. nothing to prove all the way around….

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