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Results: Supporting Delgado’s Decision
By Matthew Cerrone - Apr 28, 2008 3:52 pm

In a poll on MetsBlog.com earlier today, 86 percent of the more than 3,000 readers who responded said they support Carlos Delgado’s decision regarding yesterday’s curtain call, adding, “He can do whatever he wants.”

Only 14 percent said he should have acknowledged the fan’s request.

if any one feels like calling Mike and the Maddog with this minor fact, i’m sure they’d love to hear from you

…Update…4:45 pm…

naturally, Mike and the Maddog spent 40 minutes ripping Mets fans, never once mentioning that a) most fans support delgado and b) never once mentioning that delgado has only granted two curtain calls, despite hitting 432 home runs, during his 16 year career…

…good thing there is a knowledgeable Mets voice on the show to step in and, oh, right, there isn’t…oops

134 Responses to “Results: Supporting Delgado’s Decision”

  1. toomanyuniforms says:

    I think it was the way it was presented. I thought it would have been wise for him to acknowledge the crowd, but I didn’t think he was obligated. I “support” his decision in that sense, even though it wasn’t what I would have done.

    • Piazza3120 says:

      This was interesting topic as I devoted time on my radio show this morning (Id do a spots radio show heavy on the Mets daily from 9-10:30 AM Mon-Fri., not Mike and the Mad Dog but much easier to get through and chat) and I go to say that most of the fans I spoke to panned Delgado. Three out of four about said it was a bad move on his part.

  2. Giaco says:

    Anyone check on the Daily News blurb about MetsBlog… Raissman didnt have anything nice to say about the site’s relationship with SNY

    • zer09 says:

      post link or text pls

      • Rawjah Clemens Is In Jawgies Bawx says:

        I don’t have the link, but this was definitely discussed in Raissman’s column. WIth all do respect to Matt and the site, this needs to be addressed if it is in fact true (yes, the link to the Smith video was removed — buy why?).

        • tfc3rid says:

          Here is what Bob Raissman said…

          Mets blog-out

          “Is Matt Cerrone’s entertaining and informative MetsBlog.com (One Team, One Million GM’s) losing some edge – and independence?

          Prior to the start of the season, Cerrone joined forces with the Mets and SportsNet New York in a deal to have MetsBlog.com appear on SNY’s Web site. This was followed by a lot of yap-flapping out of Metsville (and MetsBlog) about MetsBlog being able to continue doing its thing.

          On Thursday, MetsBlog posted a YouTube video of Joe Smith going mouth-to-mouth (”You ain’t s— … I’m in the big leagues you idiot”) with Cubs fans. Spies say when a Mets official was made aware of the video’s presence, he had it immediately pulled off MetsBlog.

          For MetsBlog, and its fans, that’s called livin’ in a corporate world.”

        • AlreadyMissShea says:

          Well in other news, after the Mets sweep the Pirates we should get another Willie Confidence Poll…

        • zer09 says:

          Honestly, who cares? If anything, making the mets look good is perfectly fine to me….i’ll leave the dumb criticism to the idiots on WFAN mid day show…

        • jamie says:

          actually, I care. What makes (made?) this site unique is its warts-and-all discussion by fans-in discussions framed by Mattt –of our favorite team. If this is true, then…well, it’s troubling.

        • bkdrew says:

          Salfino mentioned over at the BBTF primer that the video was removed due to a MLBAM issue regarding the use of video in ballparks.

          I’m much more willing to believe that than 3/4 of the lazy hack “writers” in this area…

        • jamie says:

          you know, you’re right…mlb has removed anything resembling footage of its teams in the last few months. pshew, makes me feel better about my fave blog

        • AlreadyMissShea says:

          So why is it still on youtube?
          At least it was earlier if it isn’t now.

        • bkdrew says:

          I can’t answer that, but think it would be reasonable for Matt to address the situation.

          Even if Raissman were right, I fail to see what the huge deal is. Some of you are making Matt sound like this is Larry Flynt being censored.

        • dykstraw says:

          CERRONEGATE!

        • Rawjah Clemens Is In Jawgies Bawx says:

          No, it really doesn’t bother me in the slightest…I wouldn’t care one way or the other if Matt was asked to remove it — it is his site and his living, so who am I to judge his decisions. I do not, however, think it is unreasonable to ask that the situation be addressed (addressed is different than, say, re-linked or remedied) given that Matt has written that SNY and the Mets do not have any editorial input when it comes to content. If they really do, fine; if they don’t, even better…but it’s still fair to ask, and I think we should know. As a loyal reader and a donor to Metsblog, this sort of small potatoes won’t bug me all that much, but we should still know what we’re reading and who is controlling it. That’s all.

    • ravi3 says:

      One of the Newsday guys took a shot at Cerrone also:

      “A popular formerly independent Mets blogger downplayed it, but that makes sense since he’s now cashin’ checks from the team’s network.”

      weblogs[.]newsday[.] com/sports/columnists/jimbaumbach/blog/2008/04/debate_carlos_delgado_and_the[.]html

      just remove the brackets around each period.

      I left them this on their comment board:

      “Wow..journalists are calling out Cerrone..never woulda thought. Considering he is the only one that doesn’t get paid by how many people buy his paper, or listen to his radio program. (Considering he still gets 1million hits/month in the Johan free offseason, I highly doubt one [post] will have a significant effect)”

      • dazed says:

        He gets paid by how many hits the site generates, and any additional income from the SNY partnership. Cerrone has made it no secret that Metsblog is his primary source of income. It is also naive to think that SNY censoring Metsblog content will not have a significant effect.

        It is also naive to fault Cerrone for this, as I doubt any of the independents that do not live in their parents basements would place “blog integrity” 100% over making a profitable career out of a hobby. It also isn’t as if he’s going to turn this blog into a rose-colored glasses festival. But he definitely will be forced to toe the corporate line if he wants to maintain his relationship with SNY.

        • dykstraw says:

          stupid comment, considering it was the SNY guys that belabored the crap out of this non-event on the air.

          i like how everything on SNY is often critical of the mets, but because SNY is in business with matt and metsblog, it’s supposedly having an effect on metsblog’s editorial opinion.

        • bkdrew says:

          Game, set, and match. It’s not like SNY is a YES propaganda organ.

          Of course, this thread is also filled with M&MD complaints, knowing what their standard fare is.

      • blains2000 says:

        Wow, that was a undeserved cheap shot at Cerrone. I wonder how many shots that guy has taken or will take at Newsday whose checks he’s cashin’.

    • gomets6091 says:

      is it on the website, or only in the print edition? I can’t find it on the website.

      although it was a nice surprise to see the lead story about Clemens also being an adulterer (and more than that, a *pedophile* adulterer). All of a sudden I’m in a great mood

      • Rawjah Clemens Is In Jawgies Bawx says:

        I know, that is really funny. A 15 year old? (Actually I guess that’s not very funny at all.)

    • Meddler says:

      Its just because the average Mets fan probably takes Cerrone’s opinion more seriously than any DNL or SNY writer. Those guys can eat the leftover scraps at the Bronx Zoo any day if you ask me. I’ll take good ol’ fashion discussion fan-to-fan any day. Even if the site has gotten a bit of a corporate makeover, the tone is still the same and the guys here have their finger on the pulse of the team and the fans WAY better than the traditional media.

  3. metsomniac says:

    what do you think the odds are that the fans at the game tonight give Delgado a standing ovation and chant his name just to show that this curtin call story is completly overblown?

    • cbkolb says:

      I’d like to see that…hopefully they will get the game in.

      I knew that this would be the story all day today when he didn’t come out.

      It shouldn’t be…they took 2/3 from the bravos without a pitcher completing six innings of work…

  4. ryno says:

    If we are going back to relying on poll results, does that mean the Willie Randolph approval rating is coming back?

  5. storktheodore says:

    Francesa even made it part of the lead story on Mike’d Up last night. Ridiculous focus on trivial matter by the pompous one.

    • The Glider says:

      Agreed. It was incredible to listen to those two go off on this triviality. And they did they’re best to bring David Wright into “the fray.”

    • blains2000 says:

      But if it was a yankee (other than Arod) it would be a non-story.

  6. shea1986 says:

    Delgado was on the money for not granting the curtain call. He owes nothing to the fans. I agree with Mad Dog 110%. Francesca is dead wrong as he usually is. Delgado is not looking for a fight, he simply could care less. If he goes out tonight and jacks another 2 the curtain call will be there again and he can simply refuse again. People get too hung up in this nonsense.

    • altru426 says:

      i agree…this story has been blown way out of proportion…and they were trying to say Wright was sitting there saying don’t go and saying he won’t admit anything trying to spin Wright into all of this nonsense…I think the vast majority of Mets fans could care less…it all comes down do what they do on the field, that’s what gets cheered, and that’s all that matters, all I want is for Delgado to come out tonight and keep hitting, that’s all i care about, besides curtain calls are way overdone now too…let’s stop complicating every little issue…let’s hope they go out and perform and let’s cheer and get behind our team

      LET’S GO METS

  7. Don says:

    delagdo is a good person. had the balls to not stand for the national anthem, which i admire based on his reasons. and he has had a great career.

    but…

    he is done and will hurt the mets all year. fans should boo him, but more so to show managemtn that they messed up by not acquiring some decent 1st base plan B. They should have eaten half his contract and just have been done with it. anyone who knows the game knew he was done last year.

    and he shouldn’t respond after one good game with a curtain call. i don’t understand the big deal really.

    • Hemenway says:

      It. Was. Not. The. National. Anthem.
      Please stop.

      • Don says:

        what was it?

        • toomanyuniforms says:

          God Bless America

        • Danny1986 says:

          it was God Bless America in the later innings.

          Which is unnecessary anyway.

        • Don says:

          oh totally unnecessary. the poitn still stand there hemenway.

        • beltran the warrior says:

          don, give it a rest. delgado didn’t need to grant the curtain call. he’s right, it’s not a game-winning hr, it wasn’t “clutch”. i guarantee you if he did come out there would be posters criticising it for the same reason: that the homerun came when the mets were already ahead and it was only in the seventh inning.

          so please stop.

        • Don says:

          what in the world are you talking about. you didn’t even read what i wrote. i was for delgado not giving a curtian call. you are preaching to the choir and have somehow concluded that my point is the total opposite of what it really is.

    • darkstar73 says:

      why should we boo a guy who is done? I mean, he’s still trying, he still wants to be good, its just age man, what more can he do? What purpose is the booing doing?

      • 4JoeOrsulak says:

        Exactly. Booing Delgado is stupid. Unless he turns things around radically, all signs point to the conclusion that he is, at this point in his career, simply a valueless baseball player.

        It’s not Delgado’s fault that he sucks right now, and there is nothing hie can do to keep from sucking. To boo him is to boo a bad player simply because he is bad, which is pointless and nasty. It’s like taunting a retarded child simply because he is retarded, or a fat kid because he is fat. He should be cheered when he outperforms his ability as he did on Sunday and treated cordially when his performance is in line with his lack of skill. Fans should also acknowledge that he has been a superior player throughout his career and give him his due respect. We are watching a formerly excellent player at the twilight of his career. After his contract is up, he will never again have a job in Major League baseball. That is a bitter enough pill to swallow without fans constantly trashing him.

        Of course, that’s also an effect of the mercenary system. If Delgado had stayed with on team for his entire career, I’m guessing that his fans would be more disposed to pay tribute to him for his contribution to the team throughout his career. They would show their appreciation for him while at the same time acknowledging that his time has come. (The other way that can happen is if his performance is so outstanding that the fans acknowledge it even as he declines…think Mike Piazza.) But when you’re a hired gun, the fan in more inclined to say “we’re not paying you $16 million to suck loser!

        If he dogs it on the field, or displays indifference or unprofessionalism, that’s a different story

  8. Hemenway says:

    Carlos and Mets fans would have looked silly if he stepped out of that dugout to acknowledge a curtain call during an April game against the Braves, especially when the homer had no relevance other than adding an insurance run. That’d be downright dumb on any level and this debate is silly and should not be had for the sake of baseball fans/Mets fans — which I hope are synonymous.

    If fans meant the curtain call request to be an “apology” of sorts, I suggest simply refraining from the booing. It’s getting tired. I understand about last year. But this is getting tired. Quickly. And fans booing at the games should be ridiculed. I do not care about your “right” to do so. You have no affect on the game.

    • Ollie Ollie Oxen Free says:

      Well, let me start by saying that I have no problem with him accepting a curtain call.

      If you are saying it would have been ridiculous for him to accept it, I ask you if it is ridiculous for Chase Utley to do the same thing on Sunday Night Baseball. I was at the game. He hit his 2nd home run. The fans called for the curtain call and he obliged.

      I would argue that his home run had relevance. Gave them back a 3 run lead.

    • Hojy20 says:

      I agree completely. Even if the home run was to tie the game. I was disgusted when Utley gave a current call on during the Sunday night game against the mets. Yes, the home run tied the game, but its freaking April, act like you been someplace.

  9. wunkel says:

    I just read that blurb from the Daily News…did this site really pull the joe smith video? that’s bs if true…

    • Gasface77 says:

      the Joe Smith video is no longer on the site. I was looking for it yesterday to send to a friend.

      • Sh7eleven says:

        its on deadspin, you can get all the profanity laced you tube rants you want from that site. God Bless America.

        if it was pulled it was probably because of the profanity as matt has pointed out that’s the best way to get a site blocked from the workplace.

  10. Dwright5kiddflushing says:

    I give up on watching them. Sometimes they have some valid points but if you really pay attention to M&MD, Francessa will just repeat a word over and over. I forget what it was today but he came up with a new word. I was very proud for him.

    Now getting on a more serious note do they ever mention that Delgado has only done 2 curtain calls? It may be true that he dislikes the booing but who cares, What player does besides rollins? I mean come on the mets just won a series against Atlanta, We just had the NFL draft, The NBA playoffs have been great, But they spend way too much time on subjects that really are irrelevent after a while.

    Lastly on booing, If you have a brain do you think booing a player you want to be sucessful is really going to bring him out of a slump?

    • TRex23 says:

      Hooray for pointing out the fact that the insufferable bore Francesca constantly repeats himself. When he is making “point” about something, he regularly says either the exact same words over and over and over again or mixes in a sentence or two in which he says the same thing using slightly different words.

      That is the mark of an egomaniac that loves, and NEEDS, to hear himself talk.

      We should have a little contest here where commenters can post verbatim transcripts of his little riffs where he repeats himself over and over again. It would probably be even funnier and more ridiculous to see it written out.

  11. jay15 says:

    Well put Hemenway. That’s exacty how I would describe the booing… it’s getting tired. If Delgado is finsihed like most people think he is (I am one of those) then how is booing going to change anything. To me it’s like booing Rey Ordonez for not getting a hit. You know what you got in him. It’s time to just accept it and deal with it. What’s the point in humiliating him and making him feel worse. At least he looks like one of the few who is trying and still cares.

    • Don says:

      booing deosn’tchange a thing. but as a paying fan it is one way to let the mets know they f’d up and should have had a better plan. they did not. and aside from not buying tickets. booing is the only way as a consumer to voice our displeasure in their lack of foresight.

      booing doesn’t help delgado, but it tells the wilpons and minaya that they were clueless ont he 1st base situation. and i hope delgado turns it around. but if he does not, i hope the boos become outrageous. so they are forced to do something.

      • ghobot says:

        very few plans occur like the mets. the meteoric rise to relevancy and competitiveness had its price. get over it. at least we only have him for ONE year. and at least the team is trying.

  12. Runshouse says:

    The poll options were loaded.

  13. TRex23 says:

    Have we forgotten that this is the same guy who wouldn’t stand for the National Anthem?

    I was against trading for him in the first place and I can’t wait to see him go now. He was never one of my favorite players and it is clear to everyone that his career is finished.

    Let me pose a question:

    What is more embarrassing and difficult to swallow?

    Cutting ties with an over-the-hill veteran and eating millions of dollars or…

    Paying those same millions of dollars and watching the same over-the-hill veteran kill your team on the field and take up a roster spot that might be filled by someone who COULD help the team.

    That’s why I will NEVER understand the logic behind playing a guy who is terrible simply because the club owes him a lot of money. It only makes sense in one, and ONLY one case — and that is when there is suffiecient reason to believe that the player is truly just in a slump and will very likely return to his old form.
    That could never be the case with guys like Delgado.

    • DjDeF says:

      how about another option. Cutting him having to eat the money and watching him tear it up for another team. I think that would be the ultimate embarrassment.

      • Don says:

        he isn’t tearing it up for any team n the major leagues anymore.

      • TRex23 says:

        There’s no chance of him tearing it up for another team — he’s DONE.

        Besides, even if he did, that would prove that would say to me that he has been dogging it around here — which I don’t think he has. I simply think he’s finished. It happens to everyone sooner or later.

    • euchreking says:

      AGain, as someone noted above, Carlos did stand for the Natinoal Anthem, it was God Bless AMerica he stayed in the duggout for.

  14. gozer says:

    I would LOVE to see a standing O for Delgado tonight (if they play).

    Unfortunately, I’m more inclined to believe that this only proves that MetsBlogs’ readers or voters do not accurately reflect the opinions of the fan base as a whole.

    We’ll see. Like I said, it’d be really neat.

  15. ho-go says:

    The relationship between fans and team is paramount. Nothing that’s avoidable should be done to damage it. What happened yesterday was avoidable. The fact that it’s become a point of contention is damaging. The whole thing is just unfortunate. And guess what? If Delgado and his teammates were playing better, this never would’ve arisen in the first place.

  16. metsomniac says:

    I hate polls that have a yes + and No+ (Yes, I support his descion… No, he owes the fans nothing) More often than not it excludes a lot of options. how about a simple yes or no.

  17. metsfan119 says:

    The problem with the people who support Delgado’s decision is that they think the fan-player dynamic is on a level field. It’s not, Carlos Delgado is making $16 million dollars this year to perform and entertain the fans, not one of which he will ever know or have dinner with. He should suck up his sensitivity, go out for a quick little wave, and be a professional.

  18. piazza3131 says:

    All this did was make the fans madder at Delgado. It didn’t help his cause. By the way, we should stop booing him it obviously isn’t helping. It is only April give him a little while, we are starting to sound like the Phillies and Yankees fans getting on our players so quickly.

    • metsfan119 says:

      He’s been bad for a lot longer than just this April. And I agree, booing him at this point would probably be counterproductive, but I’m not going to fault the fans for voicing their displeasure for his bad play. This is Shea Stadium, not Oprah’s studio, toughen up Delgado.

      • jamie says:

        yeah, but there were mititgating circumstances last year. Why not wait at least another 100 pa’s or so before declaring him finished? Are you still booing last year?

  19. shea1986 says:

    For all of you who blast Francesca – I can’t get enough of it. I hate that a-hole. No one cares about his knee operations and this supposed diet he went on because he kept ending up in the hospital. I feel bad for Mad Dog because Mad Dog usually is forced to agree with francesca just so the big a-hole doesn’t get cranky. Someone should start a francesca bashing site if doesn’t already exist.

    • metsfan119 says:

      For someone who watches about 5 games all year, Mad Dog sure has a lot to say about the state of the Mets.

      • shea1986 says:

        I can’t get on mad dog for commenting on the mets. He a radio host of a New York sports show. It’s francesca that’s the a-hole. Mad dog knows his stuff more or less. The big schmuck brings him down however.

        • metsfan119 says:

          Believe me, I realize Mike is a pompous jerk, but no one gets his facts more crossed up than Mad Dog.

        • shea1986 says:

          mad dog’s problem is that he hates the mets for no apparent reason. like he doesn’t like oliver perez because he doesn’t want to give the minaya credit for taking a pure talent and having his career come back to life. he’s too bitter about the giants. mad dog is a harmless buffoon. mike is an arrogant ass.

        • blains2000 says:

          They are both jerks who hate the Mets. Mike because he’s a ha-yuge yankee fan and Mad Dog because he’s just an idiot. He should be forced to spend 1 hour every day talking about how stupid his SF Giants were to sign Zito. “Terrible job there by the Giants. I don’t know about you Mike but I just KNEW, JUST KNEW that Zito was done.”

    • blains2000 says:

      When do we get to bash Michael Kay?

      I think this is how we should solve the Mets fans booing problem. By uniting and booing / bashing all these Mets haters in the media.

  20. Dwright5kiddflushing says:

    M&MD are the same people that kept bugging Johan Santana to admit he’d rather be on the yankees when his buddy Luis Castillo says publicy that Santana wants to play for the mets also because he’s a great athlete who can also swing the bat

  21. The Glider says:

    I think Delgado showed some class and humility in NOT taking the curtain call due to the fact that he’s gotten off to a horrible start this year. Also, as it has been pointed out on this tread, the second HR was meaningless.

    Much ado about nothing. Can we now move on.

  22. jay15 says:

    From Raissman article:

    Mets blog-out

    Is Matt Cerrone’s entertaining and informative MetsBlog.com (One Team, One Million GM’s) losing some edge – and independence?

    Prior to the start of the season, Cerrone joined forces with the Mets and SportsNet New York in a deal to have MetsBlog.com appear on SNY’s Web site. This was followed by a lot of yap-flapping out of Metsville (and MetsBlog) about MetsBlog being able to continue doing its thing.

    On Thursday, MetsBlog posted a YouTube video of Joe Smith going mouth-to-mouth (”You ain’t s— … I’m in the big leagues you idiot”) with Cubs fans. Spies say when a Mets official was made aware of the video’s presence, he had it immediately pulled off MetsBlog.

    For MetsBlog, and its fans, that’s called livin’ in a corporate world.

  23. xmulderx says:

    The results of this poll are what the Mets want to here so it stands. I respect the polls on the site but they do not reflect what is going on at the ballpark. Either alot of the people who vote here are lying because they want to pretend they do not boo or The people online are more die-hard and understand the game better. So all the polls good or bad are not representative even if there are 3,000 votes of the entire Mets fanbase. More of the fanbase that is out at shea would be the exact opposite of the polls. Atleast so it seems. Matt you should call mike and the maddog if you want the results known. Explain who you are to the producer they will get you on!

  24. AlreadyMissShea says:

    Didn’t see anything in the News. Is this today’s paper?

    • jay15 says:

      It was in yesterday’s paper. I can’t post the link but if you go to the daily news website you can find it under Raisman’s latest column. It’s on the second page after he goes through the Marc Jackson stuff

  25. Dwright5kiddflushing says:

    I would crack a joke about Bob from the daily news, But what hasn’t already been said about the mustache and bald head already?

  26. metsfansberealistic says:

    Mike should shut his in more than one way Fat Mouth

    Delgado has class

    Francesa is an arrogant boob

    he should be fired

    go with Steve Somers & the Mad Dog

    the show would be a million times better

  27. xmulderx says:

    Well if true about the Joe Smith thing then it is sad. But Matt can prove that false very easily with a simple thing put it back up for abit, so those that want to see it can see it. If he has the power that would put that theory to bed right there. Raissman has someone telling him the Mets ordered it to be taken off. so prove him wrong put it back up!

    • effectivelywild says:

      Yes that would be such a sad thing. Who the heck cares, if you want to see it go to YouTube and find it, it will take you all of ten seconds. Did Raissman also mention that despite his job being to critique radio and television broadcasts that he regularly appears on Daily News live?

      • xmulderx says:

        It would only be sad from the standpoint Matt has gone out of his way to say he has full control many a time. This would prove wrong and make the site a sham in a way.

    • Sh7eleven says:

      its is a funny, profanity laced video, which you can find on deadspin or youtube.

      I’m guessing that if it was pulled it was because of the profanity. matt has posted recently his concern of getting this site blocked from the workplace because of profanity in the comments so why would he post an uncensored video of joe smith taking on the bleachers?

      • blains2000 says:

        I’ll have to find it just to see Joe Smith curse. He looks like he’s about 16! And when he gives up a run he looks like someone stole his puppy.

  28. tommyherr says:

    I had a well thought out response but it was erased when i refreshed…so now i have to abbreviate.

    I was sitting right near 3rd base yesterday and could see the smile on Delgado’s face when it all went down.

    To my friend, I said this could be one of two things…Either Delgado said, “You boo me..now you love me? so soon?” or he said, “Come on…I have one good game amongst a ton of crappy performances…Let’s wait for the curtain call after I’m back to where I need to be.”

    I was hoping it would be the latter.

    That being said, I was very happy to read that it was out of respect for the game and Delgado being a fairly humble person (only 2 curtain calls ever…the 1st being a FOUR HR GAME, the other being his 400th HR), it made it that much better.

    And for the folks that say YOU MUST give the fans what they want…SCR**W that, maybe the fans could learn a thing or two from a class-act pro like Delgado…Sure he’s getting old and he’s not what he once was…but he was more than happy to talk to Aaron Heilman the day before, which couldnt have hurt…The guy’s a class-act…Something that is missed in pro sports these days. As bad as he’s been playing, his mind is still right…Mets fans have been getting a little psycho in the beginnings, which is understandable (I’ve gone a little crazy with the breakdowns in the pen too), but come on…the seasons still early…enough with this QUICK LOVE/QUICK HATE stuff, it only hurts the team.

    Let’s support these guys…be the difference at home…and make sure Shea gets a proper send-off.

    Thanks for your time…

  29. pbelli01 says:

    Mike and the mad dog fail to acknowledge the fact that Delgado rarely ever takes curtains calls. He’s only taken curtain calls for “major” home runs, like his 400th and 4 in one game. Not for a home run he hits and hes back in the fans graces for a day before being booed again by Tuesday.

    Mike and the Mad Dog continually leave out critical facts like this, and listening to them often pissed me off as I feel like i always know more about facts of the current situations then they do.

  30. mza4eva says:

    Mike and the puppy wouldn’t like to hear from a metsblog reader because truth be told they only like the sound of their own voices

  31. droseatwork says:

    I think it was dumb by delgado. The fans and I are tired of him sucking it up. If he wants to stick it in their faces there will be more booing.

    He’s gonna get killed by the fans for the rest of the year. I can’t wait till he’s gone!

  32. swirlywand says:

    Why don’t we wait until he does something WORTHY of a curtain call…no one was happier than me when I heard about the 2nd homer…but I expect him to have several games a year where he does this…and UNTIL WE WIN THE PENNANT…there is no need to go crazy over something that should NOT be that big of a deal…if he hit #500 or hit for the cycle or had a walk off…then YES, he should acknowledge…but it kind of gripes me that everyone has an opinion on this…CAN’T WE ALL JUST BE HAPPY THAT HE HIT ONE (TWO)? LOL

  33. ABSeabra says:

    Francesa is great, I don’t know what your talking about.

    • metsfansberealistic says:

      he is great in only one way

      |——————————————————————————-|

      get it?

  34. NYMetsGrrl94 says:

    i wonder if the game will be played tonight

  35. ness589 says:

    Would there be as much backlash as their is support for Delgado if he DID take the curtain call?

  36. mr.bmc says:

    If by “whatever he wants” you don’t mean turning on an inside fastball, then yes.

  37. metsmets17 says:

    I feel like the season is getting lost in all the hostility brought on by last year and the current “dillemas” of this season.

    Yes, the Mets came out of the gate a bit slow. It happens. We (and myself) need to realize that that’s just baseball. I’ve watched the Mets for many years. Since the early 90’s, I cannot remember such an opposition being set up by the media towards the Mets. The media observes the feelings of the Met fans this season. The feeling have been erratic. Media outlets for many years and more so this season are waiting for the ball to drop.

    This Delgado situation is just the seed the Media is looking for in order to plant opportunities for future articles and controversies. Outlets such as, Mike and the Maddog, will use these opportunities in order to create a manic frenzy within our fans.

    It is up to us as fans not to be swayed by such arguments (i.e. Delgado, curtain calls). Arguments about who’s hitting and not are legit. The media is waiting for another version of the Worst Team Money Could Buy.

    • metsmets17 says:

      BTW…..I am praying for the game not to be rained out. We could all use something else to talk about; such as Santana dominating the Pirates! :)

  38. storktheodore says:

    Grammatical mistakes and spelling errors notwithstanding, this blog will have lost its credibility if it was indeed the case that the YouTube video was pulled under pressure from the powers that be, thus exposing the site to be not much more than a shill for SNY and the team.

    • metsmets17 says:

      So are you suggesting that Matt is the frontman? lol

    • bkdrew says:

      Salfino mentioned over at the BBTF primer that the video was removed due to a MLBAM issue involving video shot at the ballparks.

      Matt probably should address the issue, though…especially if it’s sparked this kind of response.

    • pbelli01 says:

      Thats a pretty asinine comment. This site has plenty of credibility. I do not personally know Matt, or how close his ties are with the team itself, but being hes worked this site up for several years and now gets real coverage and advertising on SNY and recognition by the team, I think it would normally be in his best interest to take a video down if the team reuqests it. This is not being a shill for SNY and the team, its being smart and not crapping where you eat.
      It seems like Matt regularly puts what he wants on the site, so if he gets a request by the Mets to take something down, its smart business, considering the Mets can provide him with aide and assistance.

  39. metsmets17 says:

    The game has be rained out :(

  40. ABSeabra says:

    Russo says “Mets fans are doing a horrible job” and you know what, HE’S RIGHT!! STOP THE BOOS, IDIOTS!! JOHAN IS THE BEST PITCHER IN BB and didn’t deserve the boo’s his first start.
    Mets game called playing 8/11/08

  41. metsmets17 says:

    I wonder how much people close to the Mets look at this blog.

    Eddie C. was talking about how Mets fans feel after Friday nights loss and the wins this weekend. He fan assessment was pretty accurate from what I saw on here the last few days.

  42. tommyherr says:

    SERIOUSLY…This is such a NON-ISSUE.

    The Mets will be alright.

    One funny thing, and it actually allowed me to like Schoenweis…On the Church/Beltran play in the outfield…The Diamondvision showed Shcott’s reaction to the catch…Phew…Priceless.

    The guy’s human. Just like everyone else on the team.

    Let’s get positive and be a good force for the team, rather than a detrimental one.

  43. edwin nieves says:

    Russo is a Giants fan and MF is a Yankees fan. The only reason they discuss the Mets is beacuase they have to. And when they do, what makes you think its gonna be in a positive light? C’mon its common sense.

    • bkdrew says:

      A friggin Giants fan co-hosting the highest rated sports radio show in NYC. That should tell you everything you need to know right there.

      You couldn’t fill a phone booth with the people in this town that care about the SF Giants.

  44. erik says:

    Okay so they won’t let me post the link, but go to youtube and type in joe smith. it’s right on top.

  45. zen says:

    this gives the bullpen plenty of rest with today and thursday off.

    • jamie says:

      that’s the only good part about today, but it’s a very good part. Pen needs the rest, and with JS going, shouldn’t overtax the pen in one day.

  46. ks1905 says:

    This right up there with the “Enter Sandman” intro for wagner. It’s such a non-issue.

    Those idiots should be talking about Clemens, NFL draft, NHL & NBA Playoffs. Not the mets fans and delgado.

    I haven’t watched this guys since the whole Santana thing and the mets are never going to get him without giving up Fmart.

    • blains2000 says:

      Mike can’t talk about Clemens as he is a “revered” yankee. if it was Mike Piazza they would be all over it.

  47. meatloaf says:

    And can Gammons and the boys chill with the Hatteberg stuff. I believe Gammons suggested the Mets platoon him with Delgado if they can get him. Except he’s left handed and he’s OLDER than Delgado. Give me a break and give Delgado a chance to get right. I’m sure the constant boos help. It’s starting to get a bit embarrasing to be a Met fan.

    • cable57 says:

      booing your own players is stupid… i go to about 30 games a year and never do it… but booing egregious snubs to the fans qualifies for jeers, and this is very close to it… walking to the top step and waving when the fans are saluting you is not such a hard thing for such a big “classy” guy as delgado… and if he’s waiting for #500 to do his next wave to the fans, he probably won’t have to worry about it the way he’s going.

  48. GregB says:

    “good thing there is a knowledgable Mets voice on the show to step in and, oh, right, there isn’t…oops…”

    Mike and the Matt Dog anyone?

  49. metsfansberealistic says:

    Steve Somers, Matt and the Mad Dog

    now that would be a show worth listening to

  50. bkdrew says:

    Cerrone, for the life of me brother, I don’t understand why you don’t apply your same logic towards the Yankees to Mike and the Mad Dog.

  51. Massey says:

    The poll options are loaded. The first option is presented as the obvious reasonable choice, but it’s not really independent of the second option.

    ie. You could respect his decision, but think he should’ve taken the curtain call.

    Second, although I agree it’s not a big deal, it is the subject of several entries by Cerrone, despite him saying it’s not a big deal. And it’s gotten a ton of posts by us. So you can’t blame the media or M&MD. Cohen and Darling talked about it at length, and it made the papers and radio shows. So it’s not a big deal, but yet–for a couple days–somehow is.

  52. Arsenal13 says:

    That’s why you should just watch the Wheel House at 5:30 everyday. Scotty Ferrall is the most entertaining dude on TV/radio and sticks up for the Mets. Even though Tierney can be abnoxious with his Yankee stuff, he even acknowledged that Delgado owed nothing and that he’s only done it twice in his life.

    • metsmets17 says:

      I unfortunately grew up listening to mike and chris. There was no Ferrall or Wheel House back in the day. When Im home around 1 I get sucked into the Yes Network abyss of pro-yankee BS. SNY needs better programming at 1pm.

      Shake it up!!!!!!!

      • SethH says:

        I don’t give a rat’s ass whether Delgado comes out for a curtain call. I do care whether he dives for balls in the hole. And I haven’t seen him do that once this year. He’s killing us out there every day and Willie is oblivious.

  53. ness589 says:

    “Sometimes we’re so good, we get bored” -Carlos Delgado, Sept. 2007

    Anyone remember that?

  54. casey s. says:

    fans boo a guy and then want him out for a curtain call? why, so they can tell a guy that now that he’s done something, he deserves their adoration? how would you like it if your boss gave you crap all day for doing a lousy job and then, when you finally got something right, called the whole company over to your office for a standing ovation and asked you to step out and accept the applause because you FINALLY did something right?

  55. metsfanmurph says:

    Who cares?? I really don’t care if Carlos Delgado waves his hand to the crowd. I found it much more relevant that he looked good at the plate. To me the most important issue of the day was John Smoltz looking completely shot. If Smoltz is not himself the Braves have no shot. I can realistically see the Mets playing the Phillies in the NLCS because I don’t believe in the bullpens of the Diamondbacks and Cubs.

    I happen to agree with Mike and the Mad Dog regarding the bahavoir of Mets fans this year which has been embarassing but did anyone hear the following comment by the Mad Dog today, “The Mets have alot of sensative latin players.” Is that not a racist comment? Mike and the Mad Dog get a complete pass for the idiotic things they say especially idiotic racial things. For example before the Jackie Robinson Day Mike basically said that black kids don’t have the attention span to play baseball, whites are not good enough athletes to play football and basketball, and latins were too short to play any other sport besides baseball and soccer.