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Poll: Player Emotion and Booing
By Matthew Cerrone - Apr 29, 2008 10:11 am

During Sunday’s broadcast of the Mets game on SNY, Ron Darling theorized that Mets fans may boo their own team because the players do not reflect the same emotion experienced by the fans.

In other words, according to Darling, fans may be inclined to cut the team some slack if the players showed more emotion.

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87 Responses to “Poll: Player Emotion and Booing”

  1. Gasface77 says:

    How about: No, I never boo at all unless a player is clearly dogging it and not giving 100%. I don’t boo my team…I cheer them on.

    • WallyB says:

      Looks like we’re on the same page.

      Let’s Go Mets!

    • Jaded1983 says:

      I’m with you on this one! Boo’s are held for the Phillies and the Patriots!

    • Rob Lowe says:

      well said gas face…that should be everyones approach

    • Dirtysanchez says:

      agreed

    • cleonsvan says:

      Agreed. You don’t boo your own team unless its clearly deserved (dogging it, etc.) I don’t care what the boo-birds think, if you’re a fan, you support your team. Booing is something to be reserved for the opposing team – especially the Yankees. Booing during introductions, for failing to hit, etc. is clearly showing poor sportsmanship and is something all of us here who are adults should know better than to do. Its a bad message to send to our kids as well as to our team. Let’s Go Mets.

    • djbutler says:

      agreed poor choice of response choices.

  2. Chris Jelic says:

    Look at Wright. Look at Beltran. One of them gets angry and upset when he F’s up. The other rarely shows emotion. Wright plays with passion and gets love from the fans – sure some boos when he fails in big spots, but there is always some disconnect with Beltran, and I think there’s this feeling that he just doesn’t care as much. This is especially true with Delgado, who’s statements and play make it seem as if he is just bored and going through the motions.

    • Hojy20 says:

      Is there a different standard for pitchers?

      Heilman certainly looks disappointed/frustrated/angry when he f’s up. Feliciano does not, he is more of the mold you describe for Beltran and Delgado.

      • Teufel Sheufel says:

        I think this is a valid question…if its about a players temperment on the field then why boo Aaron Heilman?

        When he gives up one of his trademark late innning HRs he looks like he wants to off himself, but gets booed incessantly.

      • NY Cuban says:

        Heilman looks upset/frustrated/angry when he steps on the field. He always has that miserable look on his face.

  3. wesdp1988 says:

    How come there isn’t an option for, “I don’t boo because these are OUR guys on our team”

    Delgado was right for doing what he did, I would have done the same thing. Did you hear what David Wright said in the post game?

  4. zer09 says:

    How is there 3 options for the poll and only 2 results showing?? Regardless, this is probably one of the useless polls ever…Players get booed when they suck…who cares if they’re upset about it or not? The fans want to WIN games, not watch a soap opera….

    • Hojy20 says:

      I agree. I think this poll is in response to the idiots that get on here and say that the mets lose because they don’t have enough “fire,” whatever that means.

      It doesn’t matter. If they play bad – they will get boo’d (although not by me). if they play well – cheered – Exhibit A – Z, Carlos Delgado.

  5. WallyB says:

    You forgot option “C”… I don’t boo at all unless I see a lack of effort.

  6. wesdp1988 says:

    I will boo a player like Schoenweis that took steroids and is practically STEALING money from the organization, but thats a whole other bit.

  7. Runshouse says:

    5 bucks says that more people answer this poll than the total amount that said they boo in the last one.

  8. I think the theory is nonsense. A-Rod gets booed and he plays with emotion. The Mets have had quiet stoic players in the past who didn’t get booed.

    It’s just the state of the NY fan today. Impetuous, demanding, and unreasonable. I wouldn’t mind it so much but it’s so counter-productive. As an anonymous Met player asked yesterday, do the fans think this is helping?

    • jimfels says:

      I don’t think it is “impetuous, demanding or unreasonable” for a player making big bucks (Delgado making 14M) to be expected to do what he is getting paid to do. Striking out, groundingd out to second base doesn’t quite deserve 14M.

      Same for Heilman and Schoenweis. When you give up homers and let the opposition drive in runs which cost the team a victory, your not performing up to the level to which you are being paid.

      Beltran is paid to hit. Not to take call third strikes that end games.

      • napes22 says:

        This is what really bothers me about the new breed of mets fans. This is not directed at you jimfels, it’s just a generalization of the boo birds.

        The new fans have this strong sense of entitlement. The players don’t owe you anything more than their hustle. There are usually other reasons for lack of performance. The players are human, even if they make tons of cash. Heilman isn’t going out there and intentionally lobbing pitches over the plate, he’s trying to pitch well and struggling. Delgado isn’t trying to swing through fastballs, he’s just older now and doesnt have the same bat speed. Beltran isn’t taking 3rd strikes to piss you off, he’s doing it because he has difficulty picking up curveballs, and the league knows this now. I guarantee that this grouping of fans would have boo’ed Piazza while he was on his final stretch with the Mets.

        By the same regard, Heilman is not payed much in comparison to other bigger named releivers in the league. So I guess the $$ arguement means Matt Wise is free from the boos?

  9. NPerez says:

    People boo because they feel let down, just like they felt let down at the end of 2006, and 2007. Frustration. Is it naive to expect them the team to deliver all the time? Sure. Are people generally intelligent enough to realize that? We can dream.

  10. Gasface77 says:

    It has been said over and over again. If there are 45,000 fans in the stadium and 10,000 start booing, you are going to hear it. That is thousands of people booooooing. It just stinks that this has become such an issue and that mets fans are getting this reputation. I think less than 1/4 of the fans at Shea actually boo. I just want the team to win 20 out of their next 30 so we can forget about all of this nonsense. I hope Delgado goes on a tear and I hope Heilman pitches lights out. Sick of this.

    • zer09 says:

      In that case, I’m all for booing the whole team for 20 straight games, in which they’ll go 10-10 if that will inspire them to go 20-10 the next 30 games….keep dreaming though….

    • napes22 says:

      I think we should start booing even when the players are playing well. That would show the booers who is boss.

    • Reyesing Shea says:

      its even less than 10k but the squeaky wheel gets the grease….i was only cheering for delgado on sunday (thats in pregame and before he hit the two homers)…i think some people are looking for any reason to boo and it is pathetic…

  11. wesdp1988 says:

    People assume that all fans boo at Mets games. The fact is:
    1)Boos are loud, and the other fans that are content with what a player, don’t necessarily flip out cheering when they come up to plate for no particular reason.
    2)When people boo at games, the people that don’t know anything about baseball hop on board.

    How can people(because you shouldn’t be called fans) boo somebody that is trying his hardest. When you boo it’s not going to affect their performance. All it does is make the fans as a whole look like jerk offs and classless. Are we from Philly?

  12. zen says:

    is this the death of stoicism?

  13. wesdp1988 says:

    For the fans that say they boo players because they don’t show enough emotion….

    Are the players supposed to start sobbing when they strike out, or charge the mound everytime they get thrown inside?

    • Mr. Bananagrabber says:

      If it was the first one, they’d get booed for being too weak. But fans would like the second option, sure – at least at the beginning. After a while it would just be too time consuming.

      I, for one, would like to see more of the “surprise” emotion.

  14. Mets Fan In Philly says:

    Though the emotion is certainly not all of it, I think that it might help. Fans want to know that when things aren’t going well, it’s affecting the players as much as its affecting them. When a player in a bad slump doesn’t show any emotion, it can be misinterpretted as them not caring.

  15. Nightlife says:

    I, myself, do not boo, but I do agree with Darling. I think its true just by viewing some the hyperbolic comments about the team having “no heart” and that they just “roll over” on this site during game threads when the team is, say, losing by a run in the 5th inning in a game in April. These are pretty much the same “fans” who expect the team to demolish every opponent every night. You know the ones who get upset because Santana only pitched 7 and gave up an astronomical 2 runs.

  16. DaveyS says:

    So many polls, how about that Willie poll…. the one that was to happen after EVERY series

  17. metties1 says:

    Opponents hardly even get booed at Shea anymore. The fans are all worn out from booing their own team.. I don’t understand it. It totally detracts from the idea that ‘NY fans are the greatest fans’, which you are always hearing. Granted, we are still better than Philly fans despite…

    • bennyagbayani says:

      I was at the game on friday. There were plenty of boos for chipper and the braves. And I think it’s actually really simple. Fans boo when they are not satisfied, whether it’s a seemingly ridiculous move by willie, a frustrating roster move or a player’s lackluster performance (which I gotta say, on friday, I did not boo, but the team just seem to give up, as a fan who will defend the mets to the death, that had to be one of the worst experiences I’ve had at Shea.)
      Bottom line is, there’s a million reasons fans r gonna boo. The funny thing is, I feel like now that the Mets have improved their team (by leaps and bounds) more fair weather fans or jumping on board, which would explain the increase in boos, especially after last years collapse. I grew up going to shea and most of the time I saw a mets lose, this team is light years better than the teams of the 90’s excluding 99, they just had so many come from behind wins, how could u not love em.
      Anyway I digress… bottom line… Met fans will always boo the Phils and Braves… and yankees

  18. Blue_n_Orange says:

    This is funny. Everyone hears boos during games, yet when asked directly, no Mets fan ever admits to booing. And then someone always says. “it’s only a small vocal minority” in the crowd. Lets assume for a moment that this is the case. Then shame on the rest of the fans who don’t believe in booing their own players. How can we let a “vocal minority” drown out 40-thousand cheering fans? Maybe we, as fans, should be more pro-active in our approach to reducing the amount of booing in our stadium directed at our team. Let’s stand up and remind these pinheads that choose to boo, that they’re not helping the team, and that we’re also “paying customers with rights” and as such we’re entitled to tell them to stick a sock in it. Or better yet, drown them out with a little LETS GO METS!!

    • metties1 says:

      seriously. If I were going to the game tonight, I would be cheering as soon as they announced Delgado tonight. Hopefully, a lot of these people who ‘don’t boo’ will do so…

  19. Jim says:

    How about if the manager showed some emotion?

  20. matty4000 says:

    Why is there no option that says “I don’t boo”? I have beeen a Mets fan ever since I can remember and have never booed my team. Booing is rediculous and immature. If you really don’t like your team that much that you have to boo, maybe you should go watch another team Or you could grow up and not boo. Its “YA GOTTA BELEIVE” not “YA GOTTA BOO”.

  21. DerekBellsMustache says:

    If a player is in a slump and he is 0-3 and in his fourth at bat he pops out with the go ahead runs in scoring position he is going to get booed. If a relief pitcher comes in a blows a 3 run lead he is going to get booed when he walks off the field. Thats just the way it is… no big deal

  22. Captsehorn says:

    Let’s face it, Mets fans have changed over the last 10-15 years. We used to cheer like crazy even when we were the laughingstock on MLB. Now we boo a guy when he gets two strikes on him.

    Sad.

  23. SPINK3 says:

    I dont know if its a lack of effort why people boo. In my opinion its not living up to the expectations brought upon by the media. I admit I am one of the many who boo. If you can sit tight and pretend not to care how bad delgado and heilman are then go right ahead. My heart just wont let me sit there while delgado goes on 5 for 50 streches throughout the season. He shouldnt have given a curtain call because he knows hes just going to go back to horrible play and get get booed again. He did the right thing by not coming out because he doesnt deserve too. Again its not living up to expectations why boos occur. People that boo Johan are just insane tho. Im a selective booer. Only Delgado and Heilman for me. They have crushed my will too many of time

    • Blue_n_Orange says:

      Don’t try to separate yourself from the type of fan who boos Santana. You are in favor of booing our team. Sorry, but if you’re going to heap the expectations of an entire team onto a a few players’ shoulders then you deserved to be lumped in with the rest of the people who believe that vocalizing your displeasure through mob-style harassment will in some way turn the team around. It’s just the way it is. Try to enjoy yourself more at these games. Yes, it’s a game.

      • zer09 says:

        I think this topic is way too over dramatized. You boo a player’s performance, not the player. That’s the difference. Regardless if the player is on the Mets or not, if his performance is not major league level, then he should not be in the major leagues. Some people deserve some slack (Santana, Heilman) because you know them to be good players and ones able to come through in tough situations. Delgado, on the other hand, has proven over the past year and a month that he is no longer major league level. That’s why he’s getting booed. It’s the fan’s displeasure with his performance. I’m 100% certain that Delgado is a nice guy and a great person, but I’m not in the stands to be his buddy – I’m there to see him drive runs home. If he can’t deliver, he needs to be replaced. I’m not trying to justify booing, I’m just trying to explain that on such a high level it is (a) expected and (b) justified when a player can no longer perform to major league standards. That said, booing an integral part of your team when he’s still the integral part of your team is just plain stupid…..

        • Blue_n_Orange says:

          I think you’re missing the point. It’s not about the player. It’s the negative impact it’s having on the fan experience. People don’t want to have to think twice about bringing their kids to these games. And let’s face it, it’s called booing, but it’s never confined to the word “boo.” It gets pretty offensive pretty fast. So say what you will about performance vs fan response, at the end of the day it’s just a game and it’s crazy to get so upset about what goes on at a ball game.

        • SPINK3 says:

          The fan experience has become a lot less of a family atmosphere then in yrs past so I can understand your point. But Im not going to change the way I act to please the other fans. We all pay the same money to have the same game experience. If you dont like booing and passionate fans, root for the devil rays.

        • zer09 says:

          I can certainly see your “fan experience” point, but the fact of the matter is, it’s not the kids and families that put money into Wilpon’s pockets. It’s the aggressive, die-hard, loud mouthed, cursing, booing, screaming guy. That’s the guy that will come to the most games, buy the most food/beer, buy the jerseys, etc. The 25 or so games played on Sat/Sun when families come out with kids are a non factor. Look at the Red Sox or Yankees. The fans are loud and obnoxious, yet every game is a sellout and the teams are riding high. Besides, field lever seats are usually pretty contempt and family-friendly.

        • Blue_n_Orange says:

          I come home from games some nights horse and unable to speak the next day, and it’s not from booing. Booing and passionate aren’t necessarily the same thing in my book. However, I can see we fundamentally disagree and I respect your point of view. One thing we can agree on is that we’d like to see our team succeed. And that our batboy needs to see Jared at Subway.

        • SPINK3 says:

          The ONLY thing that matters to me is winning. If someone chooses not to boo I dont get upset like everybody on this blog does at people that boo. Were all fans but choose to voice our opinion in different ways. Thats just life.

        • zer09 says:

          Absolutely. Cheers are easier deserved than boos, imo. I’ve seen fans be VERY patient with players for a long time. Delgado isn’t getting booed just because of his first month, he’s getting booed because of 2007 AND his first month. Same for Heilman. But how many times do we see boos turn to cheers VERY quickly? This team needs to perform, and that’s the bottom line. No one is going to boo Delgado for striking out with the bases loaded in the 8th inning if the Mets are already up 7-2… We need to win, simple as that. And whoever wants to be a part of winning, gets a loud and happy cheer from me, everyone else: get out of the way….

    • QnsNative718 says:

      Spink you took the words right out of my mouth.. I also boo and friends of mine who are also DIE HARD fans joke around about how bad the team is every time they lose a game though they may still be in first place. You have to remember this is New York not Minnesota. The stereotype out of towners have about us is true. We are demanding, tough and expect the same amount of passion from the players that represent our city. What people seem to forget about guys like Beltran and Delgado, other than the fact that they wear a Met uniform, is that theyre still NOT New York. IMO, theres no real alliance or loyalty on their part to the team; so hence theyre not as passionate as we expect a Wright or Reyes to be. Those are two guys that were molded in a New York philosophy; Play hard for the team, and we will love you…even when we boo. ; )

  24. cgpublic says:

    believe Ron is correct, however the perceived lack of emotion is only one factor in the equation known as the 2008 New York Mets. Furthermore, I can’t understand why anyone who has followed the Mets over the past few years or has attended games at Shea can be surprised at the present situation which has quite frankly become an embarrassment for all concerned. I did not renew my Tuesday/Friday plan after it became clear that I felt uncomfortable siting in the stands with my 6-year old son. I guess I’m getting old, however I find myself increasingly at odds with the new breed of Mets fan, where it’s all about winning, playing armchair GM and disrespecting the Braves, Phillies and Yankees. The type of fan who can recite every obscure stat like some Theo Epstein wannabe but has never experienced the joy of hitting one over the head of buddy playing a shallow center field. This season I’m passing on the Mets and Shea and taking my family to Yankee games. I may not be a fan of the Yankees, but as a fan of the game of baseball, I’ll limit my attendance to places where the game takes precedence over hostility, ignorance and a general lack of respect for others.

    • metties1 says:

      I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but I think your solution is a little extreme.. If these guys go on a nice little run, the booing and hostility should subside…at least enough to feel comfortable bringing your son to the game. Let’s not forget Yankee fans are just as fickle. You think they are not giving it to Farnsworth or LaTroy Hawkins everytime they come out of the bullpen?

      I agree with what the guy said above. The people that think it is wrong or fickle to boo, should just drown them out. I’ll play my role in that…

  25. SPINK3 says:

    I would enjoy it if I never had to boo. People arent realizing that its not booing thats hurting the team.. Its the team playing badly causing the fans to boo. Once fans realize this, this argument will be over. Booing is just a way for fans to get more invested into the game. Throwing in there 2 cents. Its not mob-style harrasment in most cases, its just personal frustration

    • metties1 says:

      do you really think that the booing doesn’t bother the players though? Don’t you think that booing a guy in his first 2 AB’s in a game plays into his 3rd AB when he’s walking to the plate even just a little?? These people are human. Did you notice how pumped Schoenweiss was when he came in and got a big DP earlier in the year? I’m sure a little of his excitement was fueled by the fact he won’t be getting booed on his way to the dugout.

      Like Matt always says, this is a game that consists of people failing more often than they succeed. Not everyone in your lineup is gonna hit 300…

      • SPINK3 says:

        My way of looking at things is that I know booing doesnt help. On the flipside I know it doesnt hurt either. These guys are professionals and have been booed and cheered there whole lives. Personally I dont think it bothers them. Its part of there job and if they are to succeed they need to find a way to get around the boo-birds. Its still just a game that these guys make millions to play. Booing does not change anything in my opinion

        • therealsince86 says:

          While I agree that “booing” in general does not bother them, I think it MAY at home. On the road, they expect it and it motivates them. It’s a way of saying I will show them. At home, players like to play at home because they know they will get a break from the booing and will get cheered on like mad. It is viewed by the players as a “safe” zone. So thus it would be very frustrating for the home team to get booed at home and on the road.

        • SPINK3 says:

          I agree it may have some ill effects at home. But in your case for example Beltran. Hes played worse at home since the moment he got here and he never got booed his first yr. I know last yr we were the only team in the league with a better road record then home but I dont think I can characterize that as having to do with fans reactions. But again, this is all speculation

        • Dirtysanchez says:

          The real hit the nail on the head. The mets expect to get booed on the road because why….they are the road team, they are the opposition. Yes these guys get paid millions to hit a ball or throw a ball 95mph but they are human. How do you think these guys feel going home when they have spent 20 days on the road representing this team and franchise and get booed before they even pick up a bat or throw a ball. I just dont understand booing and i dont think there is any real reason to boo. I would rather force a “kmon heilman” or “next time delgado” something like that than to boo. This is our team and trust me they know when they are not getting it done. They know we pay their salaries. We do not need to remind them by booing but rather encourage them and have their back. Ive said it before there must be nothing better than to have 50k nyers at home cheering you to succeed. I believe this will be more effective than booing a player for not getting the job done. Thats just my opinion as a fan. We want to say we are winners and we are the best, lets encourage these guys to think they are and i believe this will translate to them playing like the best or as best as they can. What do we really have to lose.

        • Cousinjoey says:

          Beltran actually got booed mercilessly his first year here. If you remember, after hitting a home run (in April I think) the fans wanted him to come out for a curtain call and he didn’t want to. He was still upset at who hard the fans were to him. I believe it was Julio Franco that basically made him get up and acknowledge the fans, otherwise he wouldn’t have gotten up. The fans have been on Beltran since day one.

    • cleonsvan says:

      Well you should be adult enough to know what showing poor sportsmanship is all about. Booing your own team like we have been is just classless. I heard less booing during the worst years at Shea than I do now. Grow up, deal with your emotions and boo the opposing team, not ours.

      • Blue_n_Orange says:

        Seriously, no one really cares to hear you whine like a little girl or for you to reveal to everyone how much of a void you have in your life that you look to baseball to fulfill. It adds nothing to the experience. In fact it’s like watching a kid throw a tantrum. Pretty annoying stuff.

  26. dap260 says:

    When 89% of your customers agree on something, it would be better to listen and react rather than ignore them.

    This lack of emotion starts with Willie, and if you honestly think that more consistent passion and energy wouldn’t have been worth ONE SINGLE more win last year – I think you are kidding yourself.

    89% of the Mets fans in this poll are seeing the same thing – maybe, just maybe they are not all wrong.

    • zen says:

      “When 89% of your customers agree on something”

      what planet do you live on and how are you communicating with those of us on earth?

      that’s 89% of the 950 people who voted. our of millions of mets fans. that poll isn’t even considering the people who don’t boo which is a huge number of fans.

      nobody complained about this in 2006 with basically the same players. if the mets were up by 5 games this wouldn’t be an issue. and it won’t be an issue when they win the division. and they will.

  27. robmenna says:

    Getting booed in NY has always been there. Even the best players on the Yankees have been booed.

    A Rod was booed tons in 2006. Jeter and Mariano have also been booed when they have hit their slumps. It is just the culture of a NY fan. I am not saying it’s right but it’s not something to make a big deal over. It’s going to happen no matter who you are, Delgado or Arod.

  28. therealsince86 says:

    Come on out of the 89%, at least 75% are not telling the truth. I don’t care what they say, if the Mets started all running around panicing and playing with “raw” emotion, yet still were losing they would still get booed by these same fans. Booing is selfish and has no purpose what so ever except to draw attention to yourself and relieve stress.

  29. therealsince86 says:

    No matter what can be said, it was clear that in 2007 we lost our home field advantage. I can not say it was because of the constant booing, but those who boo can you say it was not?

    • NY Cuban says:

      I know I was at 6 of the final 8 games last year, and the mid-week games were EMPTY. The boos were there but not as prominent as the silence. (I wasn’t booing yet…the total disgust for this team happened somewhere in the 1/3 of the inning Glavine pitched on Sunday). I think the silence was attributed to shock by the true fans, indifference from the fair weather fans, and people who thought “they still had it in the bag” from the people who were going to sip champagne with Willie.

      • Blue_n_Orange says:

        Yeah, maybe it’s a good thing that some of these morons are going to be priced out of going to too many games at Citi Field. The “Winning every game is the only thing that matters!” mentality has been countered by ownership with, “Good, we don’t care if you can’t afford the ticket. Make more money. Only profits matter!” Justice.

  30. tfc3rid says:

    I think a lot of it has to do withthe football season mentality…

    Every snap and every game and every loss is huge over the course of a football season… Baseball, not so much… However, I WOULD like to see some more on field emotion from this team… I don’t want a bunch of stoic robots like the Yankees from the 1990’s who, while very successful, were also VERY BORING!

    • therealsince86 says:

      I hate the Yankee’s but I find nothing boring about winning 4 WS and 6 AL championships in 8 years. Man I wish I could be that bored as a Mets fan.

  31. Jefferies Fan in Jax says:

    Mets fans booed Gregg Jefferies, a home grown player who showed so much emotion, he was called a crybaby.

    Face it. Met fans are booers… It’s never gonna stop… It’s part of our fanbases mentality…

    For good or bad, it’s a fact.

  32. Mr. Bananagrabber says:

    I think that the issue is that people who boo feel as though they are entitled to more than what they get. They paid for parking, tickets, 4 hot dogs and sodas, a jersey for their kid’s favorite player and now that the player(s) aren’t earning their $16 million per year paycheck, the fan(s) can do what they want.

    I can see both sides. Booing doesn’t make you any less of a fan if you do, and not booing doesn’t make you more of one either.

  33. Cousinjoey says:

    I don’t agree that the booing doesn’t affect the players. If that were the case then why do it?

    Baseball is a cerebral game. The players have to be thinking at all times, just to do there job. Let alone be successful. How can a player concentrate on picking up the balls rotation out of the pitchers hand if he’s worried that if he makes an out he will be booed? If you want a player that will run through a brick wall for you then you should stick to football or hockey.

    Beltran, Delgado and Heilman might be candy assess. But if not being booed would help them play better, why wouldn’t you do it? It’s not like you have to cheer. Just don’t say anything.

    I am not a booer. However, there a players that I don’t like that much, but I wouldn’t want people yelling at me all the time.

  34. AlreadyMissShea says:

    Since a couple of posts above mentioned Willie, I’m going to say this. I’ve been to all but one game at Shea this year. Willie is getting booed. It’s not a whole lot of people, but it’s noticeable. There are some boos when his face is on the scoreboard as the lineup is announced, and there are more when he comes out to make a pitching change.

    Honestly, I think a lot of the booing the players get is a result of people wanting to boo Willie, but not having him out of the dugout enough to do it.

    • NY Cuban says:

      Thats me. I boo Willie on the pitching change…cuz its the only time I see Willie pop his head out….its not like we ever see him argue a call or anything. Some may therefore interpret that as booing the pitcher who is coming out, but as for me, my boos have been intended for Willie. When this team plays to its potential, like a champion, my boos will cease. Unfortunately, I don’t see that unless Willie is gone.

  35. SlowRoller86 says:

    When people are suffering economically, their resentments build and they cling to guns, religion, and Willie Randolph’s in game decisions.-Barack Obama

    if you have seen it once, you’ve seen it a million times

  36. SlowRoller86 says:

    I dont get the whole Willie bashing thing, I mean I am sure that he has made his fair share of mistakes, but more often than not, it is the underperformance of a player who is expected to do his job, not Willie’s decision to put them in

    I dont know how you can really judge a manager’s impact on the outcome of a game, but presumably it would be most acute in one run games and Willie has the best record in MLB since he started in 2005, including AL managers, who dont have pitchers batting.

    I guess i am in the minority, but i like Willie, which i did not when they hired him. he is a bit old school, but seems to keep a cohesive clubhouse with players who hustle and generally follow the rules, I also like the way he deals with the press: keep it simple, dont make inflammatory remarks and prevent a genuine NY circus with the media.

    at the end of the day, success and failure over the course of 162 games is a function of the players, not the manager

    • NY Cuban says:

      Willie was hired to be a motivator, not because of his strategic prowess. However, over the course of the past 140 games, this team has played virtually .500 baseball. This is not a small sampling. This is not “early”. This team’s payroll and talent were contructed that for the past 2 years, they have been the favorite to win the NL. Last year, they missed the playoffs and this year, the way they are playing, they will be lucky to get in. That being said, is Willie doing what he was hired to do, to motivate? I don’t think so.

  37. Felonious Monk says:

    The problem is these guys are TOO professional. I don’t know that this is necessarily their mindset, but the impression you get from them is that it’s “just another day at the office.” In other words, they’ve become the YANKEES! :-(

    I dunno… maybe they should bring greenies back. Put some life into these stiffs!

  38. kapnasty says:

    I reserve my boos for Sosa otherwise I don’t boo. I would like to see some more emotion from some of these players and Willie, instead of the standard we will just turn the page and get them tomorrow.

  39. I’m just looking to help prove Darling’s theory. That’s all, folks. I don’t care if you boo, if you don’t, etc. It says, “Assuming you boo,” which is because I am just curious if emotion from the player’s could factor in. End of story.

    These polls are just food for thought.