Comments on: Read: Minaya, six other GMs, on Hot Seat http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:02:41 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Free Aaron Heilman http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150260 Free Aaron Heilman Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:00:30 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150260 There's also a big difference between simply showing interest in a player and making him your #1 target in the offseason. And why is it "of course" when talking about the Mets' interest in Posada? Any GM who would make their #1 target a 36-year-old catcher who everyone knew would cost a lot has serious flaws in judgment. Especially a GM who had been previously burned badly by aging DL'ed players. I think it's always fair to assess a GM for his judgment -- whether or not the deal or signing ever materializes. In the Zito instance, I'm actually sparing him criticism, and I think the Wilpons would too as they were probably gung-ho on signing him. But I can't see sparing Omar any criticism for his judgment on Posada who would have been a disaster for the Mets and a high-risk move from the beginning. Whether it's a concern or not to the Wilpons will probably depend on whether or not they themselves felt Posada was a good idea. It is the Wilpons' responsibility to judge Omar on everything -- not just deals he actually completes, but on his ideas and plans as well. But you've been a charter member of the Omar Protection Patrol, so I wouldn't expect you to understand. There’s also a big difference between simply showing interest in a player and making him your #1 target in the offseason. And why is it “of course” when talking about the Mets’ interest in Posada? Any GM who would make their #1 target a 36-year-old catcher who everyone knew would cost a lot has serious flaws in judgment. Especially a GM who had been previously burned badly by aging DL’ed players.

I think it’s always fair to assess a GM for his judgment — whether or not the deal or signing ever materializes. In the Zito instance, I’m actually sparing him criticism, and I think the Wilpons would too as they were probably gung-ho on signing him. But I can’t see sparing Omar any criticism for his judgment on Posada who would have been a disaster for the Mets and a high-risk move from the beginning. Whether it’s a concern or not to the Wilpons will probably depend on whether or not they themselves felt Posada was a good idea. It is the Wilpons’ responsibility to judge Omar on everything — not just deals he actually completes, but on his ideas and plans as well. But you’ve been a charter member of the Omar Protection Patrol, so I wouldn’t expect you to understand.

]]> By: Constnza81V2.0 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150234 Constnza81V2.0 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:30:30 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150234 There's a big difference in showing interest in a player, and signing him. Of course the Mets were interested in Posada, he was the top player available at a position they were looking to fill. Honestly, bottom line is finding Minaya culpable for showing interest in a player he didn't sign, is just as ridiculous as praising him for not signing a guy like Zito. But you've had an ax to grind with Omar for a while so I wouldn't expect you to make the distinction. There’s a big difference in showing interest in a player, and signing him. Of course the Mets were interested in Posada, he was the top player available at a position they were looking to fill.

Honestly, bottom line is finding Minaya culpable for showing interest in a player he didn’t sign, is just as ridiculous as praising him for not signing a guy like Zito. But you’ve had an ax to grind with Omar for a while so I wouldn’t expect you to make the distinction.

]]> By: Free Aaron Heilman http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150170 Free Aaron Heilman Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:39:12 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150170 Also, the Mets-Posada stories went on for a few weeks and were pretty concrete. Not just speculation. The Mets frequently shoot down items that are purely speculative and wrong. They never shot down this one. Also, the Mets-Posada stories went on for a few weeks and were pretty concrete. Not just speculation. The Mets frequently shoot down items that are purely speculative and wrong. They never shot down this one.

]]> By: Free Aaron Heilman http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150168 Free Aaron Heilman Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:36:30 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150168 Since when has Omar engaged in "all-talk" scenarios in the past? I believe they talked to his agent. They were probably told by his agent that Posada still had the Yankees as his #1 goal so to stay tuned. Why would Omar need to fly to Posada's home to court someone who has played in NY all his life? Do you really believe if Posada couldn't come to agreement with the Yankees that Omar wouldn't have made him a big ($11+ million) multi-year offer of at least 3 years? I don't. Since when has Omar engaged in “all-talk” scenarios in the past? I believe they talked to his agent. They were probably told by his agent that Posada still had the Yankees as his #1 goal so to stay tuned.

Why would Omar need to fly to Posada’s home to court someone who has played in NY all his life?

Do you really believe if Posada couldn’t come to agreement with the Yankees that Omar wouldn’t have made him a big ($11+ million) multi-year offer of at least 3 years? I don’t.

]]> By: Constnza81V2.0 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150149 Constnza81V2.0 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:14:22 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150149 I agree with the Zito comment but the Posada comment is silliness and I've had beef with others who've brought it up since the winter. Everyone and their sister knew the Yankees were going to do whatever it took to keep Posada and faulting Minaya for purely speaking about targeting Posada as his #1 catcher is silly. It was clearly all talk as I don't even think the Mets made him an offer. It's not like he flew to Posada's home and had thanksgiving dinner with him and by happenstance got spruned by the Yankees. I agree with the Zito comment but the Posada comment is silliness and I’ve had beef with others who’ve brought it up since the winter. Everyone and their sister knew the Yankees were going to do whatever it took to keep Posada and faulting Minaya for purely speaking about targeting Posada as his #1 catcher is silly. It was clearly all talk as I don’t even think the Mets made him an offer. It’s not like he flew to Posada’s home and had thanksgiving dinner with him and by happenstance got spruned by the Yankees.

]]> By: Free Aaron Heilman http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150109 Free Aaron Heilman Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:30:14 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150109 Omar is justifiably on the hot seat now. So far he's been an average GM, and that is not good enough for NY. I don't know how some can give him credit for not having won the Zito sweepstakes. That is just being lucky. Like the Red Sox not winning out on Contreras. That was just luck. Omar dodged another bullet when Posada decided to go back to the Yankees. For Omar to have made him the #1 target this past winter shows incredibly poor judgment, IMO. And I'm sure this hasn't escaped the Wilpons either. This is why he deserves to be on the hot seat and possibly fired depending on how the team does this year. Omar is justifiably on the hot seat now. So far he’s been an average GM, and that is not good enough for NY.

I don’t know how some can give him credit for not having won the Zito sweepstakes. That is just being lucky. Like the Red Sox not winning out on Contreras. That was just luck. Omar dodged another bullet when Posada decided to go back to the Yankees. For Omar to have made him the #1 target this past winter shows incredibly poor judgment, IMO. And I’m sure this hasn’t escaped the Wilpons either. This is why he deserves to be on the hot seat and possibly fired depending on how the team does this year.

]]> By: mex84 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150105 mex84 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:28:45 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150105 Well someone posted earlier that they think Randolph is his fall guy and I agree. I think Omar will last through this year if things go south and Willie will take the fall. This is at least a .500 team and most GMs can survive with that. Well someone posted earlier that they think Randolph is his fall guy and I agree. I think Omar will last through this year if things go south and Willie will take the fall. This is at least a .500 team and most GMs can survive with that.

]]> By: johnfromflushing http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150079 johnfromflushing Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:13:45 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150079 as of right now i agree .... where just talkin hot seat ,now ..... but should we be out of it come sept...... well........ as of right now i agree …. where just talkin hot seat ,now ….. but should we be out of it come sept…… well……..

]]> By: mex84 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150073 mex84 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:10:31 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150073 Omar should not be fired, but he does need to re-think his player personnel strategy. We need to get younger and healthier Omar! Beltran, Wright and Reyes are veterans now, lets surround them with young hungry players. Omar should not be fired, but he does need to re-think his player personnel strategy. We need to get younger and healthier Omar! Beltran, Wright and Reyes are veterans now, lets surround them with young hungry players.

]]> By: mex84 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150061 mex84 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:05:06 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/04/29/read-minaya-six-other-gms-on-hot-seat/#comment-150061 Back on the DL by Saturday. Back on the DL by Saturday.

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