Note: Delgado Cheered, then Booed
By Matthew Cerrone - Apr 30, 2008 8:49 am

By the way, for those that care, Carlos Delgado was cheered before his first at-bat last night.

…if you recall, there was ‘talk’ on local radio yesterday that fans would boo delgado because he refused a curtain call the night before – as if by doing so, he committed some sort of crime against humanity or something

That said, he was booed after subsequent at bats – following an 0–for-5 night.

…look, i’m not in favor of booing…but, i mean, if any guy is going to actually be booed, it’s a guy hitting .194 who starts every day…what’s worse, he is hitting just .152 with runners on base…i’m not saying it’s right, but i understand

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Comment by FSMetFan
2008-04-30 08:55:41

I was at the game last night…he actually wasn’t booed after his last at-bat, i think bc he hit the ball hard just right at 2nd base. He did get booed after his 2nd or 3rd at-bat though when he could not come through in a big spot.

Comment by Matthew Cerrone
2008-04-30 08:57:58

Thanks forthe tip. Sounding like boos on TV.

Comment by FSMetFan
2008-04-30 09:07:23

at that point there were only about 2,000 ppl left at the game…i’m sure if there were 50,000 there it would have sounded much worse

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Comment by Ollie Ollie Oxen Free
2008-04-30 10:49:47

I think you also need to look at the situation. If he gets booed because he didn’t come through in a big spot, I think that is more directed at the team.

However, getting booed on your jog back to the dugout when you get up with one out and nobody on and you hit a fly ball to left field…those are bad boos.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Mr.Spock
2008-04-30 08:58:37

Bottom line, he is getting booed and he deserves it. If he plays better, the boos will obviously stop.

 
Comment by moze1021
2008-04-30 09:01:23

I was watching on TV…

Did not sound like boos after his last at bat……so difference in opinion between Cerrone and myself….

I heard one guy with a loud boo, that was it….but most people seemed to actually be indifferent, cheering, or maybe there were a couple “ooohhhs” since he absolutely crushed that ball to the 2nd baseman….

And for the record, even the at bats where he didnt come through I thought he looked pretty damn good and had pretty solid at-bats overall….

He looked 10x better than DW up there last night (minus DWs last at bat)…..

 
Comment by Gland
2008-04-30 09:04:07

Is this going to be a new regular feature of this blog? Who was booed? It can come after the “Around the Division” report and the Minor League report.

 
Comment by mattbez
2008-04-30 09:06:07

10 boos are a lot louder than 1,000 people sitting in silence because the Mets just squandered another opportunity. It’s easy to think everyone is booing. That said…

STOP BOOING YOUR OWN TEAM!
Anyone who boos the Mets is never again allowed to say “we” when referring to the Mets. “Yo, we picked up Johan!” No, not anymore. “They” picked up Johan. “You” booed him.

Comment by FSMetFan
2008-04-30 09:12:04

i agree with the first part of your comment completely bc i was at the first game johan pitched and no one around me booed when he was taken out but you still heard some…and also, referring to the boos…I am not one to boo my own team…but a guy like aaron heilman who literally can not get an out is someone who deserves to be booed…and i would not boo him before he comes into a game but if he continually can not get an out…I cannot get upset when ppl boo him.

Comment by theperfectgame
2008-04-30 09:16:09

He literally did get an out last night.

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Comment by FSMetFan
2008-04-30 09:18:46

please…you know what i mean

 
Comment by theperfectgame
2008-04-30 09:35:38

Yeah I know. Sorry, it’s just a pet peeve. Also, it bugs me how everyone seems to be all over Heilman all the time. The guy’s been solid for the last 2 years pitching out of the bullpen even though he wanted (still wants?) to be a starter. He’s in a slump. Yes, He’s frustrating to watch. We remember when he fails far more vividly than when he succeeds. Yes. I’m just inclined to give him a little more slack than the average fan I suppose. I honestly believe that no one is taking it as hard as he is and that he WILL turn it around and be a major part of this team’s success this year.

 
Comment by FSMetFan
2008-04-30 09:39:37

hope your right…i honestly think this guy should work out his problems in the minors for a couple weeks and bring up wise…then we see where we’re at.

 
Comment by zer09
2008-04-30 10:23:56

Sounds like a solid idea. I’d rather have him go down for a bit than expose Sosa to waivers or send down Joe Smith.

 
Comment by DK
2008-04-30 10:38:05

Are you kidding me… Heilman has been solid for us? he might run off a couple good games against the nats or pitspuke but when it counted in big spots he BLEW IT. He is damaged!!!

 
Comment by Ollie Ollie Oxen Free
2008-04-30 10:53:23

I’m just waiting for the moment that Heilman is fed up with it and flips the fans off. For that he should get booed.

But for now, he is being a class act about it. He is obviously a much better pitcher than he is showing right now. He needs to be handled delicately right now. If he gets the first two outs of an inning and the next guy gets a hit, Willie should yank him. He will still leave with a good feeling, rather than giving up a 2-run homer to the next guy. I think it’s more a confidence issue than anything with him right now.

 
 
Comment by Massey
2008-04-30 10:52:05

Agreed perfectgame. Heilman has been solid if not spectacular setup man the past few years. There is no reason all to believe he won’t turn it around and return to his previous form.

Some shortsighted fans seem to want to just throw that all out the window just because he is slumping in April. A few boos here and there ok, but he absolutely doesn’t deserve the treatment he’s getting now.

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Comment by grotesmask
2008-04-30 09:12:15

Excellent point. I mean, yes, Delgado stinks right now, but the man obviously wants to bat .400, not a buck and change, so why drag him down further. Oh, I know because he makes $16 million, and I don’t. Yeah, that makes sense.

I’ll keep saying it: support your team or stay the F’ home!

Comment by Dirtysanchez
2008-04-30 09:37:29

Absolutely agree. If your not going to come out and support your team THROUGH GOOD AND BAD(very important lesson that alot of “fans” dont undertand) then stay home or sell your tickets to a fan THATS OVER LAST YEAR. They had a camra angle on heilman as he left the field and the majority of the front row before the dugout was booing the crap out of him. It just felt wrong. The guy would like nothing more than to do his work and get out but hes having a rough time. Dirty came in struggled and gave up a run but nobody booed when he left. I just dont see the point in booing. I understand fustration and anger for lack of execution, but rather then boo just stay silent and cheer for the next guy coming in to get out of that jam. If you dont have that type of mentality at the very least…then just stay home

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Comment by Ollie Ollie Oxen Free
2008-04-30 10:57:36

I agree with all you guys. It really shows ignorance about the game of baseball when you boo your own guys off the field time and time again.

I was also sick to my stomach watching this game when Heilman was pulled. There is no call for that kind of treatment. He has been a good soldier, doing what he is told. He hasn’t made a big stink about starting, regardless of whether or not we feel he can do it. He hasn’t demanded a trade.

Why does it seem like we’ve had him under our control for like 25 years? Is this guy ever going to reach free agency? Haha. Poor Heilman.

 
 
 
 
Comment by theperfectgame
2008-04-30 09:12:10

I don’t get you sometimes, Matt. You say you’re sick of this topic (booing), yet it seems like you mention it in every other post to this site. I mean, it’s your site, so do what you want. But if you’re really that fed up with talking and hearing about it, stop giving it legs.

Comment by Matthew Cerrone
2008-04-30 09:19:29

In this case, because it was talked about so much, noting the END result seemed relevant.

That’s all.

It is like concluding the story, to me.

Comment by theperfectgame
2008-04-30 09:25:33

Fair enough. I can appreciate closure.

Also, booing articles or no booing articles, this site helps me get through the loooong workday. So thanks.

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Comment by DaveyS
2008-04-30 09:16:30

Do you know how stupid it sounds that you can’t boo somebody for poor performance?…. if the guy who mows your lawn is constantly breaking your sprinkler heads which costs you money to fix, you’re going to give him a few chances, but at some point you cut your losses and fire him. Well Delgado constantly costing the Mets opportunities are effectively losing games for them.

Look I feel bad for the guy, but the sad realization is that his career is over. The fans realize it and I just feel pity for Delgado that he doesn’t. If he can prove me wrong, great, but look at his stats from 2005-2008, if that isn’t a career in serious decline, then I don’t know what is.

He’ll be great once in awhile, but a broken clock is right twice a day, but doesn’t mean its working.

Comment by mattbez
2008-04-30 09:23:30

Davy, we’re talking about baseball. Do you watch your landscaper on TV throughout the entire summer gardening every lawn in the neighborhood, cheering him on to landscape better than all the other landscapers? Let’s not start comparing apples and oranges, okay?

Baseball is a game. You’re supposed to boo the other team. Not your own. I’d hate to be the ump working your kid’s little league game.

Comment by Dirtysanchez
2008-04-30 09:39:17

“You’re supposed to boo the other team. Not your own”

exactly!

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Comment by zer09
2008-04-30 10:32:19

Your example is too extreme to properly illustrate your point. I for the most part agree with you - if a player doesn’t perform and the manager keeps on sending him out there, you have to let the organization know your displeasure. As a fan, you spend a lot of your personal money on going to games, buying merchandise, etc. In a way, every fan feels like the team owes them something. When you pay BMW prices you don’t expect a broken down Honda…and Delgado went from high performance to barely moving real fast. As a consumer you would go back to the store and say “what the hell did you sell me?” Unfortunately you can’t do that as a fan, so what other way can you express your emotion than booing? I think it’s logical.

Comment by Dirtysanchez
2008-04-30 10:46:45

Then to continue your example if that same storeowner says you bought it now its your problem what are you goint to do p*ss and moan because you got the losing end of the deal. No. Your going to make the best of it any way possible. Your going to try to fix that honda to the point of it running like it is a BMW or enough to sell it for another vehicle that is worth what you are paying. Thats the dilemma we face with delgado that we are stuck with him for one more year(i really doubt they will bring him back for 09) so what are we going to do boo him because he sucks. No. We gotta get behind him and encourage him to do better because at the end of the day its better for us that he does better. He is a part of the team that we all call ourselves fans of, why make him feel worse than what he already feels when he doesnt come through. Just dont see how booing will improve delgados game and help us win.

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Comment by SPINK3
2008-04-30 10:56:10

Just wondering, saying nobody booed delgado again but only cheered him before every at-bat. Do you realistically believe he will start hitting the ball better? because you seem to always say that booing makes him worse. So on the flipside cheering would make him better correct? because to me thats hilarious and your putting to much weight on the fans reactions to outcomes on games