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In a recent fan survey, Sports Illustrated ranked all 30 Major League stadiums based on several factors including; Affordability, Food, Atmosphere, and Fan IQ.
Shea Stadium ranked 5th in Fan IQ, but 28th overall.
…you can’t tell me that mets fans’ baseball IQ’s are lower than that of cardinals fans…come on…
…i can only assume that the nationals’ ballpark ranks lower overall than shea because they were asked about rfk, which would now make shea second to last…out of the ballparks i’ve been to, i would definitely place oakland’s concrete dish at the very bottom of this list…
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As a resident of STL and a person who goes to a lot of games at the new Busch, I can say that there is NO WAY Cardinals fans IQ is number one. NO WAY!!! Funny thing, all of my buddies that are obviously Cardinals fans, would agree.
The rating is skewed, since they use the Nationals RFK stadium, instead of their new home…so the Mets and Shea are really overall 29th, as I’m sure the new stadium would surpass Shea.
Thank God for the Marlins
I’m pretty shocked at the low IQ among fellow Mets fans whenever I go to the ballpark, so I have no issues with the poll thinking any fans have a higher IQ than ours.
Shea only rated one better in Hospitality than the Phillies? Wow!
Cardinals fans are the most overrated sports fans in the country.
I mean, how hard is it to be an old lady with an 80s hairstyle and put on a red sweater?
Funny thing is earlier this season there were articles that the Card’s were having attendance problems…………..Great fans!
Yeah, they are rated with a high IQ because they know the team colors.
It would be really hard to do that. I tried it once but couldn’t quite pull it off. Its way too much hassle to get a sex change. I can get the old lady hairstyle and thrown on a red sweater though.
a trip to shea for me costs me two fares on the metro card, round trip. $4.00 here!
hHAHAHA ranked last in food. Sausage and Pepps is great =\
Shea’s food is pretty awful compared to just about every other stadium I’ve been to (with the exception of Yankee Stadium)
The food in both Shea AND Yankee Stadium is ABSOLUTELY abominable. It’s a shame that we have two of the two highest grossing ball clubs in the world and have the worst food for us, the fans. From what I hear (I may be wrong) we are going to be stuck with crummy food for a very long time, as the same crappy company will be handling the food in Citi Field & the new Yankee Stadium. Ugh.
the same crappy company runs concessions at 12 of the MLB’s stadiums
…and many of the nation’s jails.
Somebody has to send the wilpons to eat at Petco, Safeco and Chase Field…..all have far better food and far nicer and more competent concession workers.
sorry, but shea, dump that it is, is a lot nicer than the armpit that is yankee stadium. that place sucks.
agree…there’s some parks out there that are terrible, but everyone calls them hallowed ground…yankee stadium, fenway, dodger stadium…these places are terrible
Fenway is very far from terrible. Never been to Dodgers Stadium, so I can’t comment. And Yankee Stadium blows goats.
Even as a Met fan i always liked going to Yankee stadium. You can just feel the history there and the pa announcer Sheperd was great. What did you dislike about it if you dont mind me asking?
the fans and the players and the bronx
LOL, i agree with you there. Still a beautiful park to see a game in. Gonna miss it. Alot of childhood memories i guess. I even hated the Yankees then.
the stadium has all the problems of an old stadium with none of the charm. at least at shea the entire concourses aren’t blocked by the beer line.
I recall reading the Dodgers announced a five year, $500 million renovation program. Hard to believe that stadium was built around the same time as Shea.
Too bad we ranked 28th in Promotions. They’ve given out some decent stuff so far this year.
The foam finger was a nice touch.
I’m gonna try to collect all five fingers. Last September they gave us the middle one. Last week we got the pointer.
Transportation is an interesting one. If you like taking the 7 train (I do), it’s excellent. I wouldn’t even try to drive there now.
“Last September they gave us the middle one.” – ROFL.
that’s a great line.
I’m still waiting for the ring finger…
Thanks for that I needed a good laugh!!!!!!!!
driving to shea is just pointless, unless you are hell bent on tailgating, and the cops are cracking down on drinking harder than ever.
bring a cup, friend.
For the Springsteen concert I saw a couple of guys busted for drinking even though they had cups. I’m sure they thought there were safe but there they were pouring out their cups.
Got a ticket on opening day. $25…no big deal. It would have been worth it had the mets actually won. Second year in a row I have gotten a ticket in the parking lot drinking. They let you keep your beers though and don’t bother you the second time around, so no big deal. Just add the violation cost to the $600 it cost us that day.
Make sure to check out the comments for each category. My favorite so far is under SF Giants Food.
“The Subway sandwich I smuggle into the stadium. It tastes better, costs less and digests a heck of a lot easier than any food sold at the park. Plus, I hear Brian Sabean traded his for someone else’s old stadium ham sandwich, so the Subway sandwich must be better.”
I like this one about the Oakland A’s under Fan Hospitality:
“I saw someone attack a mascot.”
I’M Sorry…but until the “Whoot!” after “Let’s Go Mets” completely disolves form the Shea echoes, Mets fans will never be top 3 in IQ. I’m actually surprised we cracked the top 10.
Here is the issue: The smartest cardinal fan is in now way smarter than the smartest Mets fan. However, the absolute dumbest cardinal fan (and there is a lot of them) is still smarter than the absolute dumbest mets fan.
In stl, there is no such thing as a ‘bandwagon’ Cardinal fan. Those people are born and bred to drink their budweiser and be loyal to that team. In NY, you get people who will wear their yankee cap one day, mets cap the next….and if either teams aren’t in 1st place….they wear a bosox hat. It’s these people (I refuse to say fans), and the “Whooters” and “Booers” at Shea, that bring us down.
That contingent of
So suddenly when you boo at Shea you’re not a fan? Wow!
just realized that was a bit to broad on that one…b/c this team deserves to be booed right now.
It’s the booers who boo REGARDLESS. The ones who gave it to Sanatana a few weeks ago. There are a lot of them at Shea, and many stadiums (like in STL) don’t have them at all.
I always hate how people could say that Cards are so much better than NY fans (bandwagon Yankee fans who can’t name the SS before Jeter do not count). It’s fairly simple in one team towns, thats your team, end of story.
Only in NY can you have over 100,000 people attend a baseball game on the same night. Meanwhile, The “We’re the greatest fans ever” Cards can barely draw 40,000 on a regular basis.
Sure there are casual baseball fans in NY who say they can root for both teams, which is impossible. But the majority of fans, espically Mets fans, live and die with their team. It would be so easy for a Yankee fan in the 80s or a Met fan in the 90’s to jump ship and go root for the popular team, but the true fans don’t. I really can’t see the “greatest fans ever” in St. Louis not jumping ship and rooting for a better cross-town rival.
Nothing can ever beat being a baseball fan in NY. Especially when both teams are doing good. Nothing.
That’s a great point. One Team towns have a major advantage on the IQ factor, which is a highly subjective category anyway. Is it IQ relative to your knowledge of your team, or is it IQ with respect to the game in general? Cardinal fans get high marks for their knowledge of their team, but they know very little outside their own city. Thats why they will argue with you to the death that So Taguchi and David Eckstein are better ballplayers than Jose Reyes and Carlos Beltran. In fact, that is another cultural issue with that town….it’s very sheltered and actually likes it that way. I’ve lived there….Everyone looks the same. It’s bizarre.
SO everyone in STL falls in line and beats to the same drum, is overly positive about their team, and laughs whenver FredBird (worst mascot on the planet) does his stupid antics. That;s why STL gets high IQ points over a more diverse fan culture like Shea. Unfortuanltely….that appears to be the IQ criteria. And that is why Mets fanse won’t ever be elite in this category.
But still…the booing and whooting doesn’t help our cause. I’ve seen these people…and they are complete idiots.
Oh yeah, of course there those idiots who go to the game with very little knowledge of whats going on, and just are there to be there. It used to be just the Bronx pretty much that had this problem, but ever since the Mets started winning (I use the term loosely), and have gotten more popular, the morons seem to migrate to Shea.
I know I have never seen some of the idiots like i’ve seen the past 2 years. We’re still better off than some of the braindead morons who go to Yankee games on a nightly basis, where every other word out of their mouth is the number 26, yet have no clue who Don Mattingly is. Oh well.. GO METS!
Danny1986 summed it up. I find it difficult to deal with the whooting and unwarranted booing. Santana should not have been booed for his first start at Shea. How on earth are players going to sign with the Mets if they are going to get booed for not throwing a shutout or going 4 for 4?
And please stop with the Yankees suck chants. It makes no sense when the Brewers or Pirates are in town.
overall though Shea is def. in the bottom 3 of all stadiums. All hail Citi Field, us Mets fans deserve a great stadium….or at least one better than the Royals…
How do the Mariners, Angels & BREWERS beat out the Mets in tradition. Aren’t we older than most of those teams. I know the Mariners were the old Senators but I’m sure no one who answered this poll probably even knew that.
And transportation to Shea…most people are going to go off of what they’ve experienced recently. Before the new stadium started going up it really wasn’t that bad driving in! Plus, how many stadiums can you take a train to the front door. Probably not too many. And if you dont want to travel via train or car, take the ferry! Other than Yankee St. what other stadium offers that.
Angels and Mets are the same age, I think both were expansion teams about the same time. Brewers used to be the Seattle Pilots, again an expansion team that joined about the same time as the Expos.
The Washington Senators became the Texas Rangers, not the Mariners. The Mariners were a new expansion team.
there were 2 washington senators and one became the Twins.
Angels started play in 1961, so they are a year older than us. Them and the expansion Senators (after the originals moved to Minnesota) were the reason the schedule was expanded to 162 games that year, leading to Maris hitting his 61 homeruns. A lot of people back then blamed expansion for watering down the pitching, in an attempt to further denigrate his accomplishment and justify the *.
Brewers started play in 1969 as the Seattle Pilots, and moved to Milwaukee the next year. The Expos, Royals, and Padres all also started play that year. Mariners and Blue Jays started play in 1977.
I’m not at all sorry to see Shea go. It’s a dump.I hope the new place has better food and parking.
This poll was voted on by fans so it doesn’t mean anything to me. 90% of the people who participated probably haven’t even seen any games outside of their own city. Anybody who would vote Shea that low for atmosphere clearly hasn’t been to a playoff game there – we should at least be higher than the Cardinals, whose fans were basically silent throughout the entire NLCS two years ago.
I also see that we’re ranked 9 spots below the Dodgers when their fans can’t even be bothered to stay to the end of a World Series game. That’s amusing.
How do yankees get higher fan IQ ? Most of em walk on all 4. Swing from tree to tree.
it’s mostly irrelevant since citifield comes in next year :)
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honestly who cares, Shea coming in OVERALL @ 28 is about accurate, I agree with only OAK & FLA being worse (RFK not included anymore).
As a life long Mets fan and a die hard Yankee hater I can still not ever say Yankee stadium isnt far above Shea…history is on its side and even if they were both built in 64, Yankee stadium is nicer in almost every way….of course I’d rank Yankee #26 or 27 overall.
How in the world is the Shea neighborhood ranked 28th but the Yankee neighborhood ranked 16th! Have these idiots walked around after a Yankee night game? It’s like Escape From New York out there
LMAO Snake Plisken, save us….
Phillies with the #7 fan IQ!!!!!??????
Man, I would hate to go anywhere lower than that…because they know NOTHING about baseball in Philadelphia….ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!
Their announcers dont even know baseball!!!
Harry Kallas is the greatest announcer in the game. The man is a legend.
and that is all I can say about PHL.
The only problem with Harry is you can’t stay awake long enough to enjoy his play by play!
Harry Kallas, the greatest announcer in the game? What about Vin Scully….?
I’ll take Kallas over Scully.
I have been a Mets fan for 20 years and I am a huge fan. With that said the Met fan at Shea Staduim’s IQ has to be in the 20’s. Half of the Mets fans are complete morons. Any group of fans that boo’s Johan Santana after his first home start immediately drops out of the top 10. The aforementioned other half of Mets fans do not rally around their players unless there is a popular Baja Men song.
I forgot to mention in my previous post the idiotic Mets fans that chant “Yankees suck” during a game agaist the Braves. I am a Mets fan that only cares about the Yankees 6 times a year. I was at a Mets/Braves game last year and a large group of Mets fans were chanting “Yankees suck.” This is probably the dumbest thing a Mets fan can do considering that at the time (2006) the Braves were the Mets biggest rivals.
AMEN murph
Most fans will chant this at a game because some idiot wears a Yankee jersey and cheers for the other team or they cheer every time the scoreboard shows the Yankees score a run. The chant is directed at them, its not like it just started for no reason.
Murph,
When was the last time you actually went to Shea?
(1) The boos on Santana’s satrt we’re for Willie, not Johan. I knew 5 guys at that game, each went seperately. Each was shocked by the controversy because they all thought the booing was for Willie leaving Johan in too long….not for Johan as “that would be silly”.
(2) Yankees suck chants are directed at the chumps at Shea outfitted in Skankee gear. Usually, some Skank fan gets up in a section to go to the bathroom or get a beer or whatnot and acts like a tool and then is serendaded with Yankees Suck chants. These do not just start up willy-nilly.
I place no stock in what SI states in its rag magazine. If it wasn’t for the swimsuit issue I would not pay a dime for that rag.
a-freakin-men to that
I’m a hard fan and here’s what I have to say about the booing. I’ve been to six games this year and I’m not going to lie because I’ve booed myself. I’m not the kind of guy that boos every ball that Heilman throws or every time Delgado strikes out. But sometimes I boo a players performance or hideous plays. Sometimes its out of the heat of the moment or most of the time it’s pure frustration.
I’m not too worried about this team, even though we’ve gotten off to a slow start the mets will get it going.
Here’s what I have to say about the booing though, agree with me or not. I think fans have the right to boo, because of we went through last year and with the insane prices for concessions, expensive merchandise and increased ticket prices it all contributes to the booing. Getting off to a slow start hasn’t helped that. A lot of fans are just extremely frustrated but I do agree that there’s been times where the booing has been inexcusable.
metsfanmurph your entitled to your a opinion but I will gladly participate in one of those chants whether were playing them or not. Especially considering the @$$hole’s that show up to Shea decked out in Yankee’s gear just to get attention and get yelled at. Just my 2 cents…
I agree with the Yankees suck chants. 99.9% of the time it’s directed at one of these morons with full Yankee gear dancing around and waving his hat like the idiot that he is. As long as its because of one of them, I have no problem with that.