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		<title>By: ghobot</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/02/blogger-beat-az-snakepit-2/#comment-154346</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 02:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think this is my favorite part about metsblog. this ask the opposing teams blogger is a great idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think this is my favorite part about metsblog. this ask the opposing teams blogger is a great idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Aaron Heilman</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/02/blogger-beat-az-snakepit-2/#comment-153929</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Aaron Heilman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 19:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No team is going to win it every year. 

The bottom line is that Epstein has been GM of the Red Sos just 1 more year than Omar has been GM of the Mets. Yet Epstein has:

1) 2 WS titles (Omar has none)
2) A highly regarded farm system (Omar&#039;s is rated lowly)
3) A team considered better than the Mets right now.

The Red Sox budget has been only slightly larger than the Mets in recent years. Yet Epstein has outperformed Omar by a wide margin.

Also, how can you call Ortiz injury-prone when he&#039;s played in no fewer than 149 games each of the last 4 season :?:   Alou and El Duque haven&#039;t  even come close.

Again, no GM is immune to mistakes or players who underperform or who get hurt. The difference between the GMs is how much risk do you put on your team for these things? Omar put too many risky old players on his team since he&#039;s been the Mets GM and it&#039;s hurt the team more than it&#039;s helped.

Omar is an average GM. That&#039;s it. He&#039;s a notch below the Epsteins and Beanes. NY deserves better. And the Mets will never win a WS title while Omar is Mets GM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No team is going to win it every year. </p>
<p>The bottom line is that Epstein has been GM of the Red Sos just 1 more year than Omar has been GM of the Mets. Yet Epstein has:</p>
<p>1) 2 WS titles (Omar has none)<br />
2) A highly regarded farm system (Omar&#8217;s is rated lowly)<br />
3) A team considered better than the Mets right now.</p>
<p>The Red Sox budget has been only slightly larger than the Mets in recent years. Yet Epstein has outperformed Omar by a wide margin.</p>
<p>Also, how can you call Ortiz injury-prone when he&#8217;s played in no fewer than 149 games each of the last 4 season :?:   Alou and El Duque haven&#8217;t  even come close.</p>
<p>Again, no GM is immune to mistakes or players who underperform or who get hurt. The difference between the GMs is how much risk do you put on your team for these things? Omar put too many risky old players on his team since he&#8217;s been the Mets GM and it&#8217;s hurt the team more than it&#8217;s helped.</p>
<p>Omar is an average GM. That&#8217;s it. He&#8217;s a notch below the Epsteins and Beanes. NY deserves better. And the Mets will never win a WS title while Omar is Mets GM.</p>
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		<title>By: Volume11</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/02/blogger-beat-az-snakepit-2/#comment-153868</link>
		<dc:creator>Volume11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 19:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boston&#039;s collapse in 06&#039; due to injury prone older players like Ortiz, Varitek (remember his season ending knee surgery that ushered in a collapse not too unlike our own last year) and Wells and younger talent like Beckett not stepping up to their contracts worth is just like what we have here with the Mets.

Every radio station in Boston was questioning Epstein and his personal choices and calling for his head when the team collpased because the catcher left...

Good thing BoSox ownership ignored them because the won the word series last year.

Baseball is flukey and nothing is guaranteed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boston&#8217;s collapse in 06&#8242; due to injury prone older players like Ortiz, Varitek (remember his season ending knee surgery that ushered in a collapse not too unlike our own last year) and Wells and younger talent like Beckett not stepping up to their contracts worth is just like what we have here with the Mets.</p>
<p>Every radio station in Boston was questioning Epstein and his personal choices and calling for his head when the team collpased because the catcher left&#8230;</p>
<p>Good thing BoSox ownership ignored them because the won the word series last year.</p>
<p>Baseball is flukey and nothing is guaranteed.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Aaron Heilman</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/02/blogger-beat-az-snakepit-2/#comment-153852</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Aaron Heilman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 19:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, but not one of the names you gave was a FA :!:

So it&#039;s misleading to even say &quot;FA AND TRADES.&quot;

It&#039;s not just home grown talent that&#039;s the issue. in the case of Boston, it&#039;s:

1) Youth
2) Performance over tools
3) Draft and farm system
4) Avoidance of aging injury-prone players

That&#039;s the difference between a GM that has won 2 WS and Omar. 

And no, that doesn&#039;t mean Epstein is perfect or that they haven&#039;t had bad contracts. They&#039;ve just minimized those things as opposed to Omar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, but not one of the names you gave was a FA :!:</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s misleading to even say &#8220;FA AND TRADES.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just home grown talent that&#8217;s the issue. in the case of Boston, it&#8217;s:</p>
<p>1) Youth<br />
2) Performance over tools<br />
3) Draft and farm system<br />
4) Avoidance of aging injury-prone players</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the difference between a GM that has won 2 WS and Omar. </p>
<p>And no, that doesn&#8217;t mean Epstein is perfect or that they haven&#8217;t had bad contracts. They&#8217;ve just minimized those things as opposed to Omar.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Aaron Heilman</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/02/blogger-beat-az-snakepit-2/#comment-153842</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Aaron Heilman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 19:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See my reply.

You are totally wrong about the FA element. Not one of those players you named was acquired by the Sox via free agency. Not one. 

What are you smoking? 

I agree with one thing you are saying -- the D-Backs are the exception to the rule. Because there are not that many really smart GMs around. Byrnes, Moore, Epstein and Beane are the exception. There may be others. But Omar is not one of them.

In 3 years, the D-Backs will still be competitive with a reasonable payroll, while the Mets and Yankees will still be struggling to remain competitive while employing too many old, injury-prone and underperforming veterans. That is, if they haven&#039;t replaced Omar and Cashman with smarter GMs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See my reply.</p>
<p>You are totally wrong about the FA element. Not one of those players you named was acquired by the Sox via free agency. Not one. </p>
<p>What are you smoking? </p>
<p>I agree with one thing you are saying &#8212; the D-Backs are the exception to the rule. Because there are not that many really smart GMs around. Byrnes, Moore, Epstein and Beane are the exception. There may be others. But Omar is not one of them.</p>
<p>In 3 years, the D-Backs will still be competitive with a reasonable payroll, while the Mets and Yankees will still be struggling to remain competitive while employing too many old, injury-prone and underperforming veterans. That is, if they haven&#8217;t replaced Omar and Cashman with smarter GMs.</p>
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		<title>By: Volume11</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/02/blogger-beat-az-snakepit-2/#comment-153829</link>
		<dc:creator>Volume11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said FA AND TRADES.

The point still stands that most of Boston&#039;s impact lineup was not home grown talent by any means and were the product od FA signings and trades.

And again, the D-Backs are an exception to the rule...and like I also said, since Arizona cant fill seats like NY can they wont be enjoying their youthful and star studdd line up for long..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said FA AND TRADES.</p>
<p>The point still stands that most of Boston&#8217;s impact lineup was not home grown talent by any means and were the product od FA signings and trades.</p>
<p>And again, the D-Backs are an exception to the rule&#8230;and like I also said, since Arizona cant fill seats like NY can they wont be enjoying their youthful and star studdd line up for long..</p>
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		<title>By: Free Aaron Heilman</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/02/blogger-beat-az-snakepit-2/#comment-153821</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Aaron Heilman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I would have. Even now,

And you&#039;re grossly exaggerating. Since Josh Byrnes has been GM, they&#039;ve never played below .469. 

It&#039;s hard for me to root for guys like Alou and El Duque, even when the Mets win. I could never warm up to them because they&#039;re old, they play without energy, and they get hurt and leave their teammates short.

I would gladly go through a few seasons of .450 play if I knew I&#039;d get a team strong in pitching and  full of talented youngsters at the end.

And you&#039;re very wrong. Boston has not won mostly by huge FA signings. Manny, Beckett , Lowell, and Schilling were all acquired by trades. Ortiz was a free pickup and he was non-tendered by Minny. And Pedroia was drafted by the Sox! Wow, not one of those players you named was a FA signing., 

Epstein has put much more emphasis on trades, youth and the farm system than Omar. And it&#039;s paid off with 2 WS titles. 

Epstein is also a much better GM than Omar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I would have. Even now,</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re grossly exaggerating. Since Josh Byrnes has been GM, they&#8217;ve never played below .469. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard for me to root for guys like Alou and El Duque, even when the Mets win. I could never warm up to them because they&#8217;re old, they play without energy, and they get hurt and leave their teammates short.</p>
<p>I would gladly go through a few seasons of .450 play if I knew I&#8217;d get a team strong in pitching and  full of talented youngsters at the end.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re very wrong. Boston has not won mostly by huge FA signings. Manny, Beckett , Lowell, and Schilling were all acquired by trades. Ortiz was a free pickup and he was non-tendered by Minny. And Pedroia was drafted by the Sox! Wow, not one of those players you named was a FA signing., </p>
<p>Epstein has put much more emphasis on trades, youth and the farm system than Omar. And it&#8217;s paid off with 2 WS titles. </p>
<p>Epstein is also a much better GM than Omar.</p>
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		<title>By: Volume11</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/02/blogger-beat-az-snakepit-2/#comment-153783</link>
		<dc:creator>Volume11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See my above post. 90% of the Red Sox are FA signings and trades, some that rival anything the Mets have done since Omar&#039;s reign (save Santana).

And the D-backs are an exception to the rule...in two years the team will be gutted just like the marlins did years ago because they dont pull in enough money through merchandising/ sponsorship/advertising/ticket sales to keep the star players...

Half of the D bacls will be in Mets, Yankee or Boston uniforms in 3 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See my above post. 90% of the Red Sox are FA signings and trades, some that rival anything the Mets have done since Omar&#8217;s reign (save Santana).</p>
<p>And the D-backs are an exception to the rule&#8230;in two years the team will be gutted just like the marlins did years ago because they dont pull in enough money through merchandising/ sponsorship/advertising/ticket sales to keep the star players&#8230;</p>
<p>Half of the D bacls will be in Mets, Yankee or Boston uniforms in 3 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Volume11</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/02/blogger-beat-az-snakepit-2/#comment-153775</link>
		<dc:creator>Volume11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you wouldn&#039;t have. Its hard to get stoked on a team when they win 1/3 of their games and 10,000 people show up to beautiful Sunday matinee games...

And again, Boston mainly has won through huge FA signing and trades like Ortiz/Manny/Schilling/Beckett. Pedroia/Lowell. Pedroia and the likes are just butter and more of a fluke...read about Ellbury being passed on by every team that viewed him....it was sheer dumb luck that he has developed like he has...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you wouldn&#8217;t have. Its hard to get stoked on a team when they win 1/3 of their games and 10,000 people show up to beautiful Sunday matinee games&#8230;</p>
<p>And again, Boston mainly has won through huge FA signing and trades like Ortiz/Manny/Schilling/Beckett. Pedroia/Lowell. Pedroia and the likes are just butter and more of a fluke&#8230;read about Ellbury being passed on by every team that viewed him&#8230;.it was sheer dumb luck that he has developed like he has&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: metsftw</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2008/05/02/blogger-beat-az-snakepit-2/#comment-153771</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>162-0 or the team sucks!!!!!!!11111</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>162-0 or the team sucks!!!!!!!11111</p>
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