Comments on: Minors: Ben Johnson, Garcia, Vineyard

By: Nate W.

Nate W. — Tue, 06 May 2008 00:25:24 +0000

actually the consistent starter loses out on more wins if you really look at it from a mathematical perspective.

By: Gilch

Gilch — Mon, 05 May 2008 22:25:54 +0000

’06 is all about MOTA …. watching SPEZIO’s shot just trickle over shawn greens glove over the wall ……
a game 2 win there and the mets have a world series title right now

By: Gilch

Gilch — Mon, 05 May 2008 22:21:52 +0000

if the mets had linebrink in the ’06 playoffs that would mean no ollie perez … since omar was going to flip him for Linebrink … who was going to pitch game 7
darren oliver?

By: Danny1986

Danny1986 — Mon, 05 May 2008 20:17:54 +0000

I liked “The Money Pit”.

That is my answer to that question.

By: Roach2

Roach2 — Mon, 05 May 2008 19:40:25 +0000

That last line you had definitely puts it into perspective and works for me.

I guess I’m trying to say that you can’t really kill Omar over this move. Considering the circumstance, Bannister was expendable. If Burgos had (and does) worked out, we’d all be singing a little bit of a different tune

By: Another Matt

Another Matt — Mon, 05 May 2008 19:39:36 +0000

Yeah, that said an awful lot about the run support he got, because his ERA was 4.97.

Also says something for being consistent, giving up 3 runs in 5 or 6 innings every start is going to get more wins on a good team than going scoreless one start and giving up 5 the next.

By: Another Matt

Another Matt — Mon, 05 May 2008 19:37:08 +0000

Danny, you miss the point. Smarts help, but if you take Maddux and remove his smarts, you still have a better pitcher than if you removed his stuff.

Bannister lives on the edge. We know he’s smart and tough because he has to show it on a regular basis getting out of jams.

His WHIP so far this season is very good, but his BAbip is low (.239). Give him a league-average BAbip and he’d have a below-league-average ERA.

Looking to the future, I’d take Perez over Bannister. The odds of Perez eventually “getting it” mentally – while not great – are still better than the odds of Bannister ever getting close to Perez’ dirty stuff.

If you matched Maddux’ head with Perez’ arm, you’d have a HoF pitcher. If you matched Maddux’ head with Bannister’s arm, you’d have Bannister all over again.

By: chaseh

chaseh — Mon, 05 May 2008 19:14:03 +0000

Yeah, W-L doesn’t mean anything in relief. Only ERA, WHIP, maybe avg against.

Doesn’t always matter for starters either. Didn’t Traschel have 15 wins for us his final year?

By: Danny1986

Danny1986 — Mon, 05 May 2008 19:10:48 +0000

Hey…you’re the one that said smarts only gets you so far. IN Fact, Mddux was a fireballer to begin his career, and became great after he became finese and location.

Bannister….I just like the kid. I saw him pitch ST in ’06 and liked him ever since. He is very cerebral and he had Major League pedigree from his dad who, oddly enough, had a 14 YEAR CAREER!!

He is in control of the game and doesn’t fall apart mentally. He’s solid. Not a Cy Young award winner. But will go out there and give you his best every day. I like smart ball players. I would take a staff of Brian Bannisters over a staff of Oliver Perez’s any day.

By: Roach2

Roach2 — Mon, 05 May 2008 19:03:03 +0000

Ahh, how did i know Maddux’s name would come up! Maddux is completely different…not only is he one of the smartest pitchers to take the mound, he also has the stuff and talent to compliment his “headiness”…his pitches had incredible movement and he made a lot of guys miss the ball.

I’m not too well versed in stats, but does Bannister do that?

Yes, i understand he pitched for us as a rookie, and i admit he has improved his game, but nothing about him strikes me as lock-down starting pitcher that will have a 14 year career.

77 Ks to 44 BBs???? That’s not someone we should be crying over.

If he wins 12-14 again this year and improves his WHIP, his K:BB ratio and cures baldness in men, then MAYBE i’ll change my mind about him!