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Willie Randolph, regarding the team’s offense, speaking to reporters after yesterday’s game:
“Offense, offense, offense, it makes a world of difference. It’s no secret…When you can do that, it makes everything else better for you: pitching is better, your bullpen is not as taxed. It’s no secret.”
Following Tuesday’s 5–4 loss to the Dodgers, 39 percent of people polled on MetsBlog said Randolph was to blame for the loss.
Inversely, following yesterday’s 12–1 win, 77 percent said he is not responsible for the win.
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Matt,
I think you should keep those polls going for a while longer. 2 games isn’t really indicative. Also, in the 12-1 game, it was a blowout from the begining, so Willie didn’t have a chance to impact it with strategy. Also, in the 5-4 game, Willie did a fine job with in-game strategy. All I am saying is that every game is different and its kind of neat to see after the game.
Thanks.
Also, not sure if something happened to Schneider so that Willie in a last minute change decided to go with Casanova on Wednesday, or if matchups that I am not aware of favored starting Schneider on Tuesday and Casanova on Wednesday, but …….
absent that, if you know you are NOT going to start Schneider Tuesday night AND Wednesday day, realizing it is typical to sit your catcher in a day game following a night game, given that FIGGY has such a chemistry and history with Casanova and pitches well with him, why on earth do you pitch FIGGY with Schneider?!
To be honest, I was screaming this Tuesday night, but figured oh well Schneider is our number 1 catcher, but was still upset Willie would tamper with success. And then when I saw Casanova start of Wednes, that made it so much worse!
That is the sort of thing I do criticize Willie for. Who knows, with Casanova behind the plate perhaps Figgy does better (i.e. like he as done with his previous starts with Casanova as his battery mate).
No offense to Schneider, but when there is a chemistry such that those two players together work well, you keep that team together.
Fair point but I think Willie was trying to get Schneider two full days off since he is just coming back from an injury. Thus, Schneider played Tuesday, took yesterday off and has today off.
Day game after a night is normally an automatic for most catchers and especially coming off the infection they wanted to rest him up a bit.
Howie and Wayne were talking on the radio broadcast yesterday that Casanova is almost playing for the right to stay up a little longer because Castro is coming back soon and there could be a chance that they carry 3 catchers for a little while just to make sure Schneider is at full strength. Schneider has been quoted as saying the first couple of games he was really tired towards the end.
I don’t think many fans are consistent at all. Many said he was to blame for the loss but not responsible for the win.
I hope these polls won’t be done again. All they really prove is that the fan base is fickle. And as inconsistent as Ollie. We all know that.
they were almost the same. 61 % didnt think he was responsible for the loss the other night. 77% didnt think he was responsible for the win. On both occasions the majority felt he had little impact on the games.
exactly. This is the most misleading post I have ever seen on this site.
i boo metsblog.
Uh, no. They were not almost the same. In the first poll 39% said he is to blame for the loss. In this poll, as of this moment, just 22% say he is responsible for the win. So, at least 17% of the fan base believes Willie is responsible for a loss but not responsible for a win. That’s a significant portion of the fan base, albeit a minority. They are inconsistent to say the least.
umm 16% difference is not almost the same. No it is not a complete change buy 16% is a sizable difference especially when you have a couple thousand votes
But 16% is a big difference from the 39% vs. 77% the post implies. The difference should have been quoted as 39% versus 23%, or inversely 61% versus 77% - using the low number for one and the high number for the other overstates the ’swing’ the fans have and made me think too much to figure out what it meant.
1.) these polls are unscientific to say the very least
2.) Most people may not think the manager affects the wins/losses all that much, barring a strategic mistake or good move in a close game.
3.) One was a close game, the other was a laugher. Therefore, one has far more opportunity for a manager to impact, the pther has really no chance for a manager to impact.
4.) The poll that SHOULD be posted is “Should Willie have been held accountable for The Collapse?”
Look, if we loose and its his fault then its his fault when we win, its simple. The fact is HE has to shoulder the team play, good or bad, ITS HIS FAULT. If th eplayers really lik ehim and respect him, yadda, yadda, yadda, then show it on the field and WIN. Is it Willies’s fault that Beltran went down looking in ganes 7 in 2006? Is it Willie’s fault that Glavine gave up 7 runs in the first inning in 2007? No, but, when you look at the whole season, YES , it is his fault. A poor choice here and there, an bad decision and before you know those few blown games add up and bite you in the ass. Then you are i first place on Monday and on Tuesday your in second place and NOT in the playoffs. Go back and change one of those bonehead decisions and things are different.
I’m not a huge Randolph fan but even I know when to “blame” Willie and when not to. The thing is all the Randolph bashers out there can’t pick and choose when to jump all over Randolph.
My biggest gripe with Willie is:
A) his managerial style. Personally, I think the team needs a manager that is less “Torre-like” and more…somewhere between “Old School Pinella” and “New School Pinella”. A manager that has fire and shows it…just not every game.
B) Willie’s decisions to remove players prior to the 6th innings. It’s no wonder that our bullpen gets torn and tattered by August.
C) The players chosen to pitch when our starting pitching is relieve. But then again, who else should Randolph turn to?
I will say that I was impressed with the double steal Randolph put on during the Arizona game. That was a smart move and I actually applauded it. He still needs to learn to love the Wheel Play though…
My gripe with B) is that he is not the only one making these decisions. He was forced to keep Rick Peterson as pitching coach and as not being a Pitcher or a Catcher coming up, Willie needs to rely on the guy who actually studies pitching to help make these decisions.
Yesterday is the prime example. Maine pitched 117 pitches in 8 1/3 innings. Had he thrown those 117 pitches in 6 or 7 innings he would be out of the game. Fact is the pitchers have labored through 6 innings or so because they haven’t been able to not walk people.
I think Peterson is in large part more responsible for how quick of a hook the pitchers get over Willie. Keep in mind that Peterson does these studies with Dr. James Andrews (shriek) to determine how much a pitcher can handle in any 1 outing.
Yesterday’s game was the first enjoyable Met game of 2008.
*Keeping my fingers crossed* Hopefully more to come! :0)
are you kidding? there have been plenty of really good games. What, is the only enjoyable game a blowout? we’ve had one of those before anyway. But either way, I hope Met fans are able to enjoy games that aren’t blowouts, because that’s where the excitement of baseball truly is, not in a 12-1 blowout.
I can care less about the blowout…… It was good to see GREAT offense, GREAT defense, NO errors and GOOD pitching….. That’s how you win games. The fact that the win happened to be a blowout is not important.
YOU GO SPOCK !!!! Live long and prosper,,,,DUDE!!
It was great to see th ebats working and th epitching working together. That is what we wanted from the start of the season. The score did not matter, it was the way they played.
Mr. Spock’s comments just continue to prove the point that Met fans have bad memory with good things and good memory with bad things.
The fanbase is fickle and that is an understatement
Dude? what the hell are you talking about? The play at the plate with Reyes against the Phillies was awsome, the treow from Church against the D-Backs was fun and the 12-1 game was fun and the double was cool as well, Did I miss anything? We have one of the best pitchers in baseball on the mound and he only has a 3-2 record, we cant hit and score runs. We leave a small army on base and thats a fact. Im sorry if Im fickle. I like watching the team strike out and squander leads late in the game, com eup with bases loaded and hit into DP or strike out, YES that great fun. This is a game and that will happen, BUT, not more often than not.
Allow me to clarify my vote of no to both.
Randolph didn’t make any grievous managerial mistakes in that ONE particular loss. This does not cancel out the many errors he has made in previous games over the past few years. When the not-infrequent occurrence of him making a stupid mistake happens again, you can be sure that I’ll blame him for the loss, as I ought to.
A manager’s job is to put his team in the best possible position to win every day. I don’t believe Randolph does that.
I know this is a bit unrelated but did everyone see that Carlos Gomez went 4-6 and hit for the cycle yesterday. I think the Twins are gonna turn out very happy with their haul for Santana when its all said and done.
Even though we needed and love Johan, this may be the guy we all regret having to trade above all the others.
For this season. Think about it. If we had this guy..when exactly was Fmart going to get up here. CG is still very young and has alot of potential. We would probably still have church but we would have never won those games where pagan got the clutch hits and he would have to be benched for alou anyway. I can stomach benching pagan because he can cool off and his defense is ok, but benching gomez who can give you good defense and offense. That would suck. I just hope Fmart is as good as everyone says he is…….
Oh no way am I saying that we shouldn’t have done the deal I’m just saying gomez is going to be legit, I would do that deal 10 times out of 10