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The Game:
The Mets (18-16) look to take the rubber match of their three-game series versus the Reds (15-22) today at Shea Stadium, starting at 1:10 pm.
The Lineup:
- SS Jose Reyes
- 2B Luis Castillo
- 3B David Wright
- CF Carlos Beltran
- RF Ryan Church
- LF Moises Alou
- 1B Carlos Delgado
- C Brian Schneider
- P Oliver Perez
The Pitchers:
LHP Oliver Perez (2-3, 4.63 ERA) starts for the Mets. Perez earned a loss in his last start on May 5 versus the Dodgers allowing five runs on six hits and two walks while striking out over 6.0 IP. Opponents are hitting .214 (6-for-28) against Perez with RISP. He is 8-3 with a 4.06 ERA in 16 career starts versus the Reds.
RHP Johnny Cueto (2-3, 5.27 ERA) takes the hill for the Reds. Cueto allowed three runs on six hits and two walks while striking out eight through 6.0 IP in a win during his last start on May 5 versus the Cubs. In 41.0 IP this season, Cueto has struck out 41 and walked just eight batters. This is first career starts versus the Mets.
Notes:
Brandon Phillips is batting .397 with 4 HR and 19 RBI in his career versus the Mets. He is 3-for-8 (.375) versus Perez in his career.
Joey Votto is batting .367 (11-for-30) with 3 HR and 10 RBI versus left-handed pitching this season.
The Reds are 12-0 when leading after the seventh inning this season.
Carlos Beltran is batting .350 (7-for-20) in his last seven games. He is batting .259 with 1 HR and 3 RBI versus right-haned pitchers this season.
The Mets are 4-1 in rubber games of series this season.
How To Catch It:
Tonight’s game can be seen locally on CW11 and heard locally on WFAN.
The Bleachers:
For a live chat, head over to The Hot Foot Bleachers.
…happy mother’s day, and as always, Let’s Go Mets…
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lets go met, lets go mets, lets go mets.
The Cowbell Man is really starting to urk me.
I say we fire the Cowbell Man he is the rally killer!!!!!!!!
Schneider is catching and playing Dr. Phil for OP today. I feel good about that.
Happy Mothers Day to all of you, and LGM!
happy mothers day to all! hopefully ollie thinks it’s last mothers day and puts up another 8 1/3 solid innings!!
PS-on the reds feed, they just had a quick line from arroyo regarding last night saying that he noticed things that the mets were laying off of, so he just kept going with it…i guess no one on the mets staff realized this though……………….
Fire Jerry Manuel maybe?
Wow, On the Ed Coleman’s WFAN interview, Willie said Ollie needs to step up today and that he “put up a real stinker last time” Almost spilled my coffee when I heard that.
since its mothers day, lets say schneider is playing Dr. Melfi.
this isnt a must win game for the team, but i know the fans feel that way. boy, i cant even begin to fathom what kind of comments will appear on this thread if the mets lose this series.
over/under on fire willie comments: 37.5
Careful there I.R.
Melfi sounds like G r i f f e y.
That’s pretty low over/under for a Sunday game. Put me down for 10 bucks on the over regardless of game outcome.
Is there any action on the Fire Sandy line?
i checked the vegas odds:
the over/under on fire sandy comments is 13.5
LOL. That’s very smart. :)
6 pitches to the first batter. if we extrapolate, hell only face about 16-17 batters, meaning hell only go, at most, 5.2 innings. man our bullpen is done!
I’m just glad we aren’t playing the Brewers, I guarantee Bill Hall goes yard with that pink bat today.
Lets go mets
I love how Keith calls it the “Golden Glove.”
…and for those of you who have RCN (or maybe it was on other cable providers too) we are all now dumber for watching that Six Flags commercial.
…and may God have mercy on our soul!
Good inning thrown by Perez. Let’s hope he can get us a quality start.
Good start for Reyes
Looks like Slappy took some vitamins this morning
OH MY GOD! Did I just see Luis Castillo….. oh my god, I’m speechless.
did slappy just hit the ball to the outfield?
Triple by Castillo? WOW! Reyes got on base early…stole second and easily scored…Potential good omen?
Must be the pink bats!
keep it coming
Church playing with the flu? Interesting.
Church is one of the few on this team with a set.
Grapefruits! HA!
Way to go Alou!
oliver generally pitches to the opposition. if the opposing pitcher gives up 7 runs, he gives up 6-8. if the opposing pitcher gives up 2 runs, he gives up 1-3. lets hope he doesnt pitch to cuetos level.
Now there’s some positive thinking!
3 runs in the first. Should help Ollie keep his head together.
great line about alou from my buddy im watching the game with…
“they say alou can roll out of bed and get a hit, thats why hes always hurt, he doesnt stretch”
love the pink shoes on jose lol
Agreed the guys from Queer Eye for the Straight Guy dressed Reyes. LOL
Keppinger is the latest Met killer. Ugh.
i wonder if the reds will accept jose reyes for jeff keppinger. we can also add vicente padilla and a ham sandwich to the deal.
Is it good ham?
Probably Boars Head.
OP at bats usually the height of entertainment. Go Ollie.
I love how he flinches when he fouls off a pitch.
Someone pinch me! Did Ollie just steal second?
ollie!???? dont fatigue yourself. i wonder what goes through this buffoons head
Did…did Ollie just steal a base?
im afraid the wheels might come off here. i hope oliver didnt tire himself out
Good call on Oliver being tired. You could tell that he was tired by how fast he went through the inning. He only wanted to face 3 guys. He was too tired to pitch to more.
im a disillusioned mets fan. nowhere did i say that he was definitively going to fail. i was just expressing reservations
Must be tough for alot of the folks in here to always come up with negative comments when the team is doing well. But, they always find something to complain about. Well done.
Although, I assume that 99% of those folks have only been fans since 06.
Go Mets!
you hit it right on the head…its all these new fans …even if we take 2 out of 3 they will still be complaining…..
The same thing happened with the Red Sox. Once they started to win alot, then all the bandwagon fans came along. It is those fans that are usually the extreme.
I think the long term fans are more even keeled and know that there team is never the best nor the worst ever. It is alot easier to be paitient when you have followed this team with the likes of BobbyBo in the outfield.
Did anyone else watching the reds’ feed enjoy that arroyo commercial with him “playing” the guitar. Just his face at the end cracked me up. I’m not a sox fan or anything but, having lived up here in Boston I always liked Arroyo when he played for them.
florida is up 1-0… i feel like they havent been behind in a game in a week!
who cares
They are hot right now. 6 game winning streak, including 2 shutouts. However, the competition is the Nats right now.
Ollie in a groove right now. He loves Mothers Day starts.
And according to Cohen he also enjoys Cinco De Mayo. LOL
Me too. Margarita’s for all my friends!!
Another good inning by Perez. He’s doing it with his pitches and quite frankly, his speed. Who would’ve thought he knew when to steal second. Cohen mentioned the steal was the third of his career.
The Reds are just the type of team Ollie likes to face.. on the whole they are pretty hacktastic. This is gonna be a good one boys!
Happy Mother’s Day
LET’S GO METS!
Looks like Willie is looking for more running. 3 SB attempts in first 3 innings, altho I’m not sure OP’s steal was intentional.
About Ollie’s steal, like you said it probably wasn’t called from the dugout….Ollie on a mission to prove something to his teammates? That can’t be a bad thing.
I remember once in Little League I was daydreaming on first base and got picked off.. I was burning for a whole week, then next week first time I got on I stole second, stole third on the next pitch, and ended up scoring on a wild pitch. That’s what Ollie’s steal reminds me of.
Cueto seems to be settling in. Ollie better keep this up, because if Cueto keeps dealing like he just was (and King everyone), those 3 runs might be it for the day. Not that we have ever seen that happen, right?
Well, Cueto did walk Wright to start the inning and Wright got caught stealing. Not sure he is locked in. 61 pitches thru 3 innings.
Okay to continue the conversation Cohen and Hernandez are discussing, I enjoy and love the Mets black alternate uniform. I think I am in the minority. As far as the worst Mets uniform is concerned. I agree with Cohen, the Mets road uniform with the words New York written in script are among the worst Mets uniforms.
But then again…you have to think about the Mercury Mets as the worst. Remeber those? LOL
i also love the Black Alternate uniform
The 1995-1997 uniforms were the best.
The road grey uni’s? Really?
The one’s from the early nineties…not the current road unie’s…It was written in script. Do you remember those? YUCK! LOL
Oh…yeah, those were terrible.
I didn’t like the black jersey for a while, I guess I’m a bit of a traditionalist and of course all these alternates are just to make more money. My favorite has always been the blue hats and the pinstripes, but the black has grown on me.
I agree…the black unies is to capitalize on merchandising. Each sport allows their teams to utilize an alternate (i.e, NY Ranger, NJ Nets etc). I currently enjoy the old school Mets blue cap, too.
I prefer the traditional pinstripes, blue hats at home and grey road unis with traditional blue hats. I’m ok with teh road blacks as an occasional alternate on the road only, but use the all black hats, not the awful black-n-blue hats. The NY just doesn’t show well on TV on the black-n-blues.
gotta love Keith. He was just complainging about the weather, and asked how the Pilgrams made it through the 1st winter. Now he is talking about the Framer’s almanac.
THink you get this kind of stuff from Joe Buck or John Sterling?
True…but Hernandez is likable. Unlike the other two, who quite fankly, try too hard!
I’m watching the Reds feed on Extra Innings and I just saw a commercial for a dating site- FarmersOnly.com. The tag line: “Keep away from those city slickers.”
Yikes.
A bunch of Yokels looking for love. HA!
Yeah I’m watching that feed too. For anyone without Extra Innings, if you like Gary, Keith, and Ron now, just imagine if you had to listen to the Marlins’ announcers for an entire 4 game series… we have the best announcing team around…they have a turtle and a ferret.
Oh man, the Marlin’s and Nats announc`ers are the worst…with the D’bags close behind. On days like today when the Cini feed is on Extra Innings, I go to MLB.tv and am thrilled to have the SNY (in this case ch. 11) feed…even if it is on my computer rather than on my large TV.
Hey, I like this Ollie better than the one we have had so far this year. I think the Mets should keep him, and dump the other one.
Now just have a couple of efficient innings, and go at least 7.
although with the forcast, would not be surprised if they get another unexpected day off tomorrow. Man, they are going to need about 8 SPs in the rotation later in the year when they have to make up all these games.
Now Keith just called his duaghter (who he was in the process of texting) a “knucklehead”, so of course Gary made an apple not falling far from the tree crack.
I’m glad I got the mlb.tv this year. Otherwise, I would never get to see these guys.
When Gary, Keith and Ron were paired up in 2006…I was against it. But, since then, wow, they keep me entertained. They have their own sense of humor and have great chemistry. What would I do without them? LOL
OP is a madman. Nice bunt.
Perez is pitching well…stealing bases and bunts. As Keith just mentioned, he should pretend every start is Mother’s Day!
Dammit. Delgado’s clogging up the basebaths for OP. No steal this time.
jeff keppinger…
i hate that guy
I say that we start a petition right now that Perez can only be caught by Brian. WE need to get this done ASAP.
No “stinker” so far…
And the same can be said for Pelfrey. He pitches well with Schneider. Although, he had a good outing last night.
I think that just by having a guy that is called a “defensive catcher” it makes the younger and less successful pitchers go with what he says.
With the other backstops, I think that the confidence that the hurlers have in the called pitches is much less.
He wouldn’t have if he had pitched last nights game with Pelfry.
But I think Schneider should catch as many games as possible regardless – and he will. But catchers need their games off – more so then certain players (not named Alou and Castillo).
I’m curious about exploring what level of Schneider-ness exists, but today from what I see I also give credit to Wagner’s mouth. Sometimes his words are ill-advised, but in the case of Ollie’s last start I think he said what needed to be said.
ollie!!!!!!!!!
I think someone stated earlier…Ollie is trying to prove a point. He was called out last week. And now he’s trying to prove he is not the incosistent pitcher in recent weeks. I hope he pitches like this throughout the season.
And maybe Scott Boras told him he is playing for multi millions too.
one-hitter through 5 innings with 8K’s
This is what we are looking for from Ollie.
Slappy doing what he does best.
Finally we got one over on Keppinger.
i don’t know if anybody is watching the cincy feed, but they have this commercial for a fast food place where bronson arroyo plays the guitar and sings the jingle…it’s so wonderfully bad, it makes guiseppe franco look like citizen cane…
Guiseppe Franco says on his death bed, “Procede”
Thanks, I was just starting to forget it! You need earplugs to watch a Reds feed..
Way to go Mets…Beltran is finally turning things around. WOO HOO
Beltran’s the MAN
Beltran’s back, and there’s gonna be trouble
Back to back! Beltran and Church! Damn, I’m glad the Mets picked up on Church! Get better Church!
Church on Sunday! Oh wait…
Damn I was about to say that…Great minds think alike. :0)
Church!!! Not bad for a guy with the flu.
I still don’t get this offense. 12 runs, 1 run, 6 so far…
Dizzying season indeed.
booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I’ve never booed a Mets player, it’s just startling how we can go from highs to lows so suddenly.
Lastings who??? Nice trade Omar ……GO METS!!
And although he’s been a bit inconsistent great trade on Santana. :0)
Angel Pagan trade looking decent, too
Can Oliver finish this game without exploding…that is the question…
you mean imploding….
no, exploding…its more serious
I’m with imploding, pressure makes things implode… or collapse.
sorry, bad choice of words.
his pitch count is near 80. if we get 2 more from him, im content
Yup two more innings and he will earn his pay. lol
well then?
who was worried yesterday by the mets splitting the double header?
the bats are coming alive with better weather and more balance of righties and lefties.
It’s only one game, just like yesterday evening as well as yesterday afternoon.
Let’s keep our swings level, and not make hyperbolic predictions on one gaem, good or bad.
IR, what’s the over/under on the word “inconsistency”?
Last nights loss was disappointing, but remember, most of us felt the Mets would win five out of seven on this home stand. Right now, it looks good.
trying … so… hard … not … to be … pessimistic
Brandon Phillips exemplifying the meaning of the word “hacktastic.” Ollie says, “Thank you very much!”
Moises Alou trying to endear himself to the fans by doing his best Angel Pagan impersonation in LF? ;)
keppinger….
Jeff Freakin’ Keppinger
regarding what Gary was saying about a call up of a starter…
Not only was Bostick removed after 3 innings last night, but Armas Jr. was held out of todays start, which was his turn in the rotation.
Oddly, I’m hopefully they get the rainout tomorrow so they can avoid needing the extra starter, and can get Wise activated.
I wonder how long the Mets can keep Wise a ‘healthy scratch’ until the union starts complaining.
PANIC
Walk to G r i f f e y started this inning. True what they say about walks.
Yeah, especially leadoff walks with a 5 run lead.
Maybe this is a good thing. If Ollie can work through this inning, perhaps it will be a step towards him not imploding all the time.
Although, I do give all the bandwagon jumping trolls about 10 minutes to flood in here…
sodak, i dont think you know what bandwagon means. dont bandwagon fans follow good teams?
It is nice to hear that Beltran is saying his knees are starting to come around. When he gets going, then we will see this team become more consistent on the offense which will also let our pitchers relax.
“This is so Oliver Perez.” – Keith Hernandez
We can just use “Oliver Perez” as a synonymous phrase for “inconsistent”.
The OF’s got their running in that inning. Come on Perez, get it back together!
Well, we got 6 innings from Ollie. 3 runs and about 100 pitches. Are we satisfied?
Seven would have been nice, but all that’s important now is we close out the game. Let’s finish them off! How ’bout we tack on a few boys?
Its exactly that, satisfactory. A minimum quality start, going back to the talk about QS’s earlier in the week.
Can’t really blame that inning completely on Ollie. Alou should have had that fly ball.
He’s no Ryan Church…
But Church and Beltran made some pretty good plays on well hit balls. The wild pitch was on Ollie.
As I said yesterday when it comes to pitch count. Ollie reaches 85 pitches and loses it.
You can never trust Perez. A 6 run lead and you walk the leadoff hitter… that is all you need to know.
Luis Castillo out with “tightness in his left quad.”
“Thats a concern…he is your second baseman.” – Keith
…really?
yea, OF’s dont need thier quads apparently…
I dont get Keith today, he seems to be mailing it in after the double dip yesterday.
Castillo is hurt?? what a surprise
Keith can say what he wants, after all, he;s Keith Hernandez.
Still……this booth is at its best when all three are working a game.
Wonder how tight that quad will be 3 years from now…ugh.
it could be precautionary.
huge tack-on run
Alright. This is a game you have to get after that debacle yesterday afternoon. Let’s see if the pen can put up some zeroes.
Scho has a 1.74 ERA in 15 appearances…
the mets are rad…. 32 runs in 4 games, im down
WOAH…that was not scott schoenweiss on the mound…
props to willie for putting him out there against lefties…
do we stretch out scho for one more inning?
I would
Turning it back on w/ two outs after giving up a couple is definitely a good sign…I’m liking this lineup a lot, especially with Beltran and Delgado showing signs of coming around.
i think either church or delgado should assume the #7 spot in the lineup. alou should be placed in between to avoid the back-to-back lefties in the lineup. if delgado begins to turn it around, itll be interesting to see if willie keeps him in the 7 hole
let smith bat!
florida came back from a 4-1 deficit, scoring 3 in the 8th to beat the nats 5-4. you have to be kidding ,e
Stinkin Marlins win again
Uggla had 2 more HRs. He’s on my fantasy team so I’m happy… i asked this last night: when do we all acknowledge that the Marlins might be for real?
time to blow it open with weathers in
good thing this team has a dayoff tommorrow. Long 24 hrs
What team?
Wachutalkinabout Willis??!? That is not the case for the Mets, who play the Nats tomorrow at 7:10pm.
The Mets it will be ppd tommorrow
More than likely but they did have 2 days off before this past 24 hours. They’ll also probably play a double header Wed. or Thur. if that was the case.
No they wont because the Nats come in later
Bunch several double headers closer to the end of the season? What happens when they come in that last time and one of those games get rained out? Play back to back double headers? Thats why ATL scheduled the upcoming doubleheader this time in and not the last.
Reds batted out of order
That batter bats again
Only if Patterson gets up. If Freely gets up and sees one pitch than the batting out of order becomes moot.
I was informed there would be no math involved during this game…
What a pathetic display of lack of understanding of the basic rules by both Willie Randolph and Dusty Baker. Disgraceful!
By willie? Seriously, you are going to blame him for this? Jeez, the umpires hardly even know what the heck is going on.
What we learn in the end is that Baker is an idiot for batting his guys out of order. End of discussion.
Willie was wrong when he came out of the dugout. Even Cohen is saying so, but it should be obvious anyway. You let them bat and let the inning play itself out. You come out only after it becomes necessary. Meanwhile Feliciano is standing on the mound getting cold. Yeah, Willie was wrong here too. Sorry.
Willie was wrong but he would have had to come out before Freel got up because Freel would have been batting in the correct order. Once a pitch would have been thrown to him, Willie couldnt argue the first two batting out of order. My question is where’s Jerry Manuel on that? He’s the bench coach and the one to keep Willie from going out there that early. And what about the other coaches? They didnt know either so they didnt say anything? Says something about the whole coaching staff there.
Well, this will start to drift off topic, but all the more reason that everyone here should (hopefully) agree that regardless of how we as individuals feel about Willie, the best course of action is for the team to win with him.
I don’t like Willie, but there isn’t anyone else, at least with the team right now, that I would trust any more than I trust him. I hope they get as far as they can with what they have this season, avoid as much interruption as poosible, and then if they want to run everyone out of town and bring in a new staff in ‘09, go for it.
Totally agree.
Yes, by BOTH of them. Something I’m glad was pointed out while I was watching this stupidity on TV. You are correct.
Now come on, the game for all intents and purposes is over. Can we just finish this off please?
TY. I thought it was rather obvious, and I love that Gary is pointing it out how Willie messed up.
the real rules for a man batting out of order are such (the SNY announcers got it wrong):
6.07 (c) When an improper batter becomes a runner or is put out, and a pitch is made to the next batter of either team before an appeal is made, the improper batter thereby becomes the proper batter, and the results of his time at bat become legal.
Therefore, if Freel came up to bat after Ross, the order would have been legal. If Freel got a hit, Willie could not have come out of the dugout to argue that Freel batted out of order because according to the rules, the order becomes legal if no appeal is made. So the SNY announcers were wrong and irrespective of whether or not you like Willie, he did not do anything wrong in this situation.
Met Opt – No they had it right because Corey Patterson was getting up and he would have been batting out of order also. If it was Freel then you would be right and them wrong.
if i recall correctly, SNY showed a video shot of Freel coming to bat right after Ross, and Patterson sitting in the dugout without a helmet on.
No Corey Patterson was just outside the batters box when Willie came out of the dugout. Even Gary was saying that Patterson was out there to hit.
that was after Baker came out to talk to the umps, which was after Willie came out. Before that Patterson was on deck ready to go. Baker took Patterson back to the dugout with him.
Baker almost let Freel bat out of order as well, but the umps went back to get Ross the second time.
that works. then willie should have waited. my bad.
The real strange thing is Patterson was in the ondeck circle when their previous at bat ended ready to pinch hit the inning before. What the heck was he thinking?
Cohen is such a dork
Keith has dinner reservations at 5
Blind confused by the blind here between Dusty and Willie.
these umps are going to hate willie for bringing up this whole issue and making them look like morons
I think the Mets have Ross batting somewhere other than 8th or 9th, and that is the extra confusion.
these umps are killing me
“can i tell you something, howie. these umpires just don’t know”
shouldnt feliciano get to warm up again?
He’s already effectively pitched three innings, do we need him to throw more pitches?
Put In the Books!!!!!!!!!!
An extra ten minutes for nothing
glad to hear howie say “put it in the books”.
They take two out of three and move on to the Nats. Most of us said 5-2 would be acceptable in these two series. I don’t see any reason why they won’t do that (weather permitting), so I can go do the Mother’s Day stuff feeling pretty good about where things are at the moment.
I hope there was something more to the batting out of order mess than was obvious. I think they showed the Mets lineup card in the dugout and it looked like Ross wasnt in the 9th hole or the 8th hole. Maybe the Mets had Weathers 9th and Ross 5th?
we need 3 out of 4 against the nats
I’ll take 3 out of 3 ;)
the rainout tomorrow would let them reset the rotation and avoid needing another starter. At least until they go to Colorado.
My refrigerator magnet is gonna start sliding down pretty soon from all of the tickets it’s holding up that have to be PPD. It already looks like tomorrow will be another one.
I dont see them delaying tomorrow’s game till the next time the Nats are in unless there’s a day off the day before or after that series. If there isnt I could see them playing a doubleheader Wed. or Thur. As I said a little further up this thread, cant take the chance that a game in that series gets rained out and be forced to play doubleheaders back to back. Then again as I sit here typing, Willie and Omar might want to take that chance so as not to have to bring up someone to pitch. Well after looking at the sched they have days off on each side of the 2 game series and thats in Sept so they could have someone called up to handle a doubleheader if neccesary. So I guess my whole response has become moot. LOL